Roll Call!

red sux blow

Roll Call!

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Nice desperate posting for attention

Yeah I hate the greatest sports franchise ever, The Yankees. There constant drive to field a great team for there fans is terrible. :rolleyes:

Yeah I hate the greatest sports franchise ever, The Yankees. There constant drive to field a great team for there fans is terrible. :rolleyes:

Don't forget that they show a lot of class and have some respect for the game... unlike some other teams that win a World Series and then make it all about a certain OTHER team and arrange for their ring presentation to players be made when said team is visiting for a series... Or making sings about this same team during their Championship parade...
Yeah... Yankees suck alright.

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Nice desperate posting for attention

That picture is exactly what America west of the Hudson thinks of the Yankmees.

That picture is exactly what America west of the Hudson thinks of the Yankmees.

is that why they are #1 in attendance on the road

Don't forget that they show a lot of class and have some respect for the game...

Pretty sure that's true about every team, really.

unlike some other teams that win a World Series and then make it all about a certain OTHER team and arrange for their ring presentation to players be made when said team is visiting for a series...

Uh, you're aware that this was the first home game of the year, and as such, the ring presentation would have taken place then regardless of who was playing -- it just so happened that the series had been previously scheduled against the Yankees. The schedule was approved well before the '04 playoffs began -- the Red Sox first home game of the year would have been against the Yankees whether they'd won the World Series or finished 70-92.

Simply put, this conspiracy theory, if that's what it is, pretty much blows.

Or making sings about this same team during their Championship parade...

Quite honestly, those of the 3.5 million people in attendance for the championship parade by and large weren't holding sogns of any kind -- pro Red Sox, anti-Yankees, whatever -- it just wasn't sign weather, and people didn't want to obstruct one another's vision.

You're referring, of course, to one sign that Manny Ramirez famously had pulled out of the crowd on Boylston Street that he displayed from his Duck Tour boat for a little while.

One sign. Out of 3.5 million people. Almost none of whom were carrying signs of any sort.

You don't think this is a bit of a stretch here?

[b]Yeah... Yankees suck alright.

I wouldn't say "suck", but I could certainly think of many better ways to have spent a sum dangerously close to a billion dollars over the past 5 seasons.

That picture is exactly what America west of the Hudson thinks of the Yankmees.

If thatpicture is what people west of the Hudson think of the Yankees-that they're a bore... then why would threads be started about them. And you, of all people, would be the one to answer, because you're the pathetic loser who started this thread. If the Yankees are such a bore, then sit the fuck down, watch YOUR fucking team and stop starting threads about teams you have no interest in.

I dig the Yankees, plus they got one of the best farm teams in Boston :cool:

Pretty sure that's true about every team, really.



Uh, you're aware that this was the first home game of the year, and as such, the ring presentation would have taken place then regardless of who was playing -- it just so happened that the series had been previously scheduled against the Yankees. The schedule was approved well before the '04 playoffs began -- the Red Sox first home game of the year would have been against the Yankees whether they'd won the World Series or finished 70-92.

Simply put, this conspiracy theory, if that's what it is, pretty much blows.



Quite honestly, those of the 3.5 million people in attendance for the championship parade by and large weren't holding sogns of any kind -- pro Red Sox, anti-Yankees, whatever -- it just wasn't sign weather, and people didn't want to obstruct one another's vision.

You're referring, of course, to one sign that Manny Ramirez famously had pulled out of the crowd on Boylston Street that he displayed from his Duck Tour boat for a little while.

One sign. Out of 3.5 million people. Almost none of whom were carrying signs of any sort.

You don't think this is a bit of a stretch here?



I wouldn't say "suck", but I could certainly think of many better ways to have spent a sum dangerously close to a billion dollars over the past 5 seasons.
1: I don't know about that, but I know it's something that was made an issue by BOston and their fans
2: I don't care about the 3.5 million fans (which I"m sure is an exaggeration by the media or whomever came up with that number). I'm talking about ONE sign being held by a player. It's a classless move by a classless player. No big surprise though. Has he demanded to be traded again yet? Any more hinting about how much he likes the New York area?
3: I could also think of better ways of spending the millions that the Red Sox spent in the last five years as well. Or the millions upon millions they spent over the 86 years they DIDN'T win. So that theory blows.
And I'm sure the Red Sox would have loved to spend a ton of money on A Rod. Oh wait... A Rod preferred to play out of position in New York as opposed to playing in Boston. Gee, I almost forgot about that.

[B]1: I don't know about that, but I know it's something that was made an issue by BOston and their fans

Uh, care to elaborate? I know that many people appreciated the irony, but that's about it.

2: I don't care about the 3.5 million fans (which I"m sure is an exaggeration by the media or whomever came up with that number). I'm talking about ONE sign being held by a player. It's a classless move by a classless player. No big surprise though. Has he demanded to be traded again yet? Any more hinting about how much he likes the New York area?

People tend to quite like the area they spent their childhood in. It's human nature.

You're not talking about the 3.5 million fans that have been confirmed by countless sources to have attended the parade in fairly simple fashion, you're talking about the sign that one of them created, that was held by a player that you've determined "classless" because he found it funny. Because it was.

There's an equally widespread picture of Gary Sheffield wearing his Yankees cap and a "Fuck the Red Sox" t-shirt. But that's a lot classier than a sign that says "Jeter is golfing - this is better".

3: I could also think of better ways of spending the millions that the Red Sox spent in the last five years as well.

Really? I'm not sure that I can. A few choices have been questionable, sure, but the majority of them have been good if not great, and no one's arguing with the results so far.

Or the millions upon millions they spent over the 86 years they DIDN'T win. So that theory blows.

Don't recall even bringing up the previous 81 years, the overwhelming majority of which the Red Sox were closer to the bottom of the payroll scale than the top of it.

And I'm sure the Red Sox would have loved to spend a ton of money on A Rod. Oh wait... A Rod preferred to play out of position in New York as opposed to playing in Boston. Gee, I almost forgot about that.

Yeah, that's how it happened. You're definitly not conveniently forgetting anything here.

For a guy who started a thread and have rambled on and on to no end, most often incorrectly, about how "it's all about the Yankees" amongst each and every Red Sox fan, you come off considerably more obsessed than any of us. Might wanna do something about that.

I dig the Yankees, plus they got one of the best farm teams in Boston :cool:

I'm not entirely sure what you're talking about here -- is this in regards to the Yankees spending way too much money on noticably deteriorating versions of Johnny Damon and Wade Boggs, acquiring Roger Clemens.......in a trade with the Blue Jays, or does this have something to do with a transaction that took place nearly 90 years ago?

You're going to have to elaborate here, because otherwise, this really doesn't make any fucking sense.

.......you're the pathetic loser who started this thread. If the Yankees are such a bore, then sit the fuck down, watch YOUR fucking team and stop starting threads about teams you have no interest in.

Yeah. Stop making threads about teams that you don't care about at all. Only pathetic losers do things like that. (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98022)

What's most funny here is that this Jack Shit guy is from San Fran, not to mention a vocal Giants/Bonds fan, and you went into yet another ignorant anti-Red Sox rant anyway.........

Hey Jack Shit (nice screen name...probably what you know about baseball, or rather, a class baseball organization)...Yank Me, and Fuck You.

I guess you've figured by now that I'm a Yankee fan.

By the way, have I said Fuck You? Good.

Jack Shit is a Giant fan?? That's OK...I lived in the Bay Area for years and didn't exactly hate the Giants. I actualy rooted for them in the 2002 World Series, which they should have won by the way, if Barry didn't loaf after that fly ball in the 8th inning in game 6!

Barry Fuckin' Bonds! Gotta say it...what a fuckin' disgrace! Giambi had the guts to admit his steroid use. Barry will end up just like Pete Rose. What a shame. What a disgrace. What an asshole.

Yeah. Stop making threads about teams that you don't care about at all. Only pathetic losers do things like that. (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98022)

What's most funny here is that this Jack Shit guy is from San Fran, not to mention a vocal Giants/Bonds fan, and you went into yet another ignorant anti-Red Sox rant anyway.........

No, what's funny is I pointed out how he started an anti-Yankees thread and then used apicture I posted to say he doesn't care about the Yankees. Hypocritical? Contradictory? No, not at all.
It's simple: You either don't care about the Yankees and you don't make a post ABOUT them. Or you hate them and you DO care enough to start a thread about them.
And I'm quite aware that he's from the Bay area, which leads me to wonder: You've got an NL team to root for, and a lovely guy in Barry Bonds, salt of the earth he is. Why the focus on the Yankees? Is he pissed that they help bring good attendance to S.F. games, and elsewhere across the country?

Yeah. Stop making threads about teams that you don't care about at all. Only pathetic losers do things like that. (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=98022)



And what's even more funniest? Yeah, that thread that you're alluding to is more about how it's all about the Yankees-which for me, it is. Hey wait... aren't you the guy that said this arguing with me is boring or something like that?

Life's to short to hate....Let's say i'm not so fond of the owner!

Life's to short to hate....Let's say i'm not so fond of the owner!

Why? He's a riot. One of the great things about living in New York is reading... no, better yet, HEARING the missives sent by George M. Steinbrenner III.
If I could easily find them online, I'd post someof them. Very inspiraitonal, funny and thought provoking.

Why the focus on the Yankees? Is he pissed that they help bring good attendance to S.F. games, and elsewhere across the country?

Not that the Giants have had any problems putting asses in the seats on their own, but seriously, how often do the Yankees even play in San Fran?

What you're failing to acknowledge that even the mighty Steinbrenner himself will point out is that for every one dude in Kansas City who decides to go to Kaufman Stadium to cheer on the Yankees, 10 more will go just to boo the shit out of them -- people's overwhelming dislike for this team often times gets in the way of common sense.

Not that the Giants have had any problems putting asses in the seats on their own, but seriously, how often do the Yankees even play in San Fran?

What you're failing to acknowledge that even the mighty Steinbrenner himself will point out is that for every one dude in Kansas City who decides to go to Kaufman Stadium to cheer on the Yankees, 10 more will go just to boo the shit out of them -- people's overwhelming dislike for this team often times gets in the way of common sense.

What you're failing to acknowledge is ANYTHING I've said. I didn't say that the Yankees has more fans in all other teams stadiums. I STATED they help bring good attendance. And there have been MANY times in Toronto for one, where Yankee fans have outnumbered Bluie Jay fans.
Why you bothered to reply to my post, I don't know, bwecause you don't really address anything, other than to agree with what I said-just in a different way. Congratulations.

is that why they are #1 in attendance on the road

News Flash: They come to boo and throw beer on the stupid and wildly outnumbered New York transplants wearing the Jeter jerseys. Good times! :btu:

News Flash: They come to boo and throw beer on the stupid and wildly outnumbered New York transplants wearing the Jeter jerseys. Good times! :btu:

And they boo and throw beer while ALSO wearing Yankee hats?
And that does sound like lovely behaviour these S.F., etc. fans are showing. Jack, you don't have much of an argument here. You say no one cares about the Yankees, yet you start an anti-Yankee thread-which shows that you DO indeed care. It's sweet and all, but your non-argument is just silly and juvenile.

Better to be a fan of the Evil Empire than a Bonds sycophant. :rolleyes:

is this in regards to the Yankees spending way too much money on noticably deteriorating versions of Johnny Damon and Wade Boggs, acquiring Roger Clemens.......

:rolleyes: :hn:

So sad.

yankee's suck!!!!

yankee's suck!!!!

So does baseball. Hockey. Basketball. And soon the NFL will suck too. All that's left is women's tennis. Which, as long as Russia keeps churning out blonde, teenage, leggy stars, will NEVER suck!
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noticeably deteriorating? that's the thing, last season, to you boston fans, he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. as soon as he jumped the fence and became a yankee, he's "noticeably deteriorating"?

What you're failing to acknowledge is ANYTHING I've said. I didn't say that the Yankees has more fans in all other teams stadiums. I STATED they help bring good attendance.

You stated that they help bring in good attendance in San Francisco, or at the very least that's what was implied.

And there have been MANY times in Toronto for one, where Yankee fans have outnumbered Bluie Jay fans.

Indians and, more notably than anyone else, Red Sox fans absolutely flock to Toronto, so I guess I just don't see what your point is here.

Why you bothered to reply to my post, I don't know, bwecause you don't really address anything, other than to agree with what I said-just in a different way. Congratulations.

Still have that whole "can't comprehend what I'm reading, but I'll respond anyway" problem going on, huh?

:rolleyes: :hn:

So sad.

I'd be pretty sad if I were you, too, what with it being undeniably true and all.

And we're still anxiously awaiting your first baseball-related post that doesn't suck complete ass.

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noticeably deteriorating? that's the thing, last season, to you boston fans, he was the greatest thing since sliced bread. as soon as he jumped the fence and became a yankee, he's "noticeably deteriorating"?

No, last season he was the best leadoff hitter in the game, but his already bad arm was notably getting worse, he was no longer intimidating on the basepaths, and his fielding skills continued to show a noticable decline.

This season, he's probably still the best leadoff hitter in baseball, though there's no reason whatsoever to believe that'll be true for another 4 years, he's likely to steal even fewer bases, and you guys will be questioning his defensive skills as loudly as we did for the past several years if not moreso.

At this point in their careers, anyone in their right man would prefer to have a guy who's six years younger, better defensively and on the basepaths who's yet to hit their offensive prime and whose stats already project to be on an equal caliber as his predecessor in spite of that, all at a discount of $49 million dollars.

We're sad to see Damon go, but there's nobody losing any sleep over it -- fact is, he wasn't worth what he wound up getting, and there were questions whether or not he was even worth what the Red Sox were offering. The prospect of a 36 year old, by then completely broken down Johnny Damon manning centerfield isn't a very promising one.

Yankee Damon = Yankee Giambi

And they boo and throw beer while ALSO wearing Yankee hats?
And that does sound like lovely behaviour these S.F., etc. fans are showing. Jack, you don't have much of an argument here. You say no one cares about the Yankees, yet you start an anti-Yankee thread-which shows that you DO indeed care. It's sweet and all, but your non-argument is just silly and juvenile.

I didn't say I didn't care, I said I hated 'em. There's a difference. :dancin:

I didn't say I didn't care, I said I hated 'em. There's a difference. :dancin:

Quote of Jack Shit in reply to a picture of a woman yawning:
Jack Shit: "That picture is exactly what America west of the Hudson thinks of the Yankmees."

So explain that to me. America west of the Hudson is a collective yawn... yet you start a thread about them. You can't say it's a collective yawn and then say that you DO care. Which is it? Pick an opinion, be consistent and stick with it.

At this point in their careers, anyone in their right man would prefer to have a guy who's six years younger


And who is your 'right man'? Someone younger obviously, but we want names of this 'right man' you would be 'in'.

And we're still anxiously awaiting your first baseball-related post that doesn't suck complete ass.

:gay: :hippy:



26 Championship
39 Division Champions
Baseball's Best as of yet.

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2001 was a good year for me .. Watched my home team take the World Series from baseballs best bought franchise....... good times....

2001 was a good year for me .. Watched my home team take the World Series from baseballs best bought franchise....... good times....

Of course 'baseball's best bought franchise'. There aren't many championships attained in any other way thse days, so let's not pretend that Arizona did it by some greater means other than buying it.

2001 was a good year for me .. Watched my home team take the World Series from baseballs best bought franchise....... good times....

It's really sad how so many people hate on the Yankees for having an owner willing to put money back into the team.

George is not even in the top 5 richest owners in baseball. He is just very willing to spend on the team rather than pocket the majority of the money the team generates.

Quote of Jack Shit in reply to a picture of a woman yawning:
Jack Shit: "That picture is exactly what America west of the Hudson thinks of the Yankmees."

So explain that to me. America west of the Hudson is a collective yawn... yet you start a thread about them. You can't say it's a collective yawn and then say that you DO care. Which is it? Pick an opinion, be consistent and stick with it.

Yankmee fans flatter themselves by thinking all of America loves and admires their stupid fucking overpaid team. That's what's symbolized by the yawn. On the other hand, fans like to see their teams kick the shit out of the overpaid underachieving Yankmees. Does that spell it out for you, numbnutz? :hw:

Being a "Yankee fan" is so easy, and most Yankee fans are not real baseball fans, they are fans of "winning and pissing on the little guy" and they have shown such little class. The Yankees represent what is wrong with corporate America. Go root for a team like the Pirates, then come back to me. Cub fans, now there is a real fan.

Being a "Yankee fan" is so easy, and most Yankee fans are not real baseball fans, they are fans of "winning and pissing on the little guy" and they have shown such little class. The Yankees represent what is wrong with corporate America. Go root for a team like the Pirates, then come back to me. Cub fans, now there is a real fan.

Yeah, I guess those of us who grew up with our team since we were 5 and went through the debacle of the 80's should just stop rooting for our team because they won 4 out of 5 World Series and go root for the Pirates. Fucking numbnutz douche.

Yankmee fans flatter themselves by thinking all of America loves and admires their stupid fucking overpaid team. That's what's symbolized by the yawn. On the other hand, fans like to see their teams kick the shit out of the overpaid underachieving Yankmees. Does that spell it out for you, numbnutz? :hw:

Derf. Yankee fans know everyone else hates them.

Oh, and Mr. Bonds lover, meet the kettle. :rolleyes:

I respect the Yankees.Those world championships are an amazing feat.It is comforting for me to know that my team(Angels)ALWAYS plays the Yankees tough......

I believe my scroll says it all.

My Bronx Brethren - Respect

Haters - Eat A Dick :ass2mouth

I love when people call me a front runner because I'm a Yankee fan. It's fun to watch their heads explode when I tell them I'm also a Jet fan.

I love when people call me a front runner because I'm a Yankee fan. It's fun to watch their heads explode when I tell them I'm also a Jet fan.

I feel you bro. But it continues to be lonley at the top. There are a lot of us out there. The others are jealous because the Yankees ARE baseball and know one can debate anything about the game without mentioning them and how they go about their business.

I root for the Jets to win every year and I really don't claim them as my team. But living in the tri-state you know how much they want and need a championship. They were almost there and I think the new regime will do suprisingly well.

Yankmee fans flatter themselves by thinking all of America loves and admires their stupid fucking overpaid team. That's what's symbolized by the yawn. On the other hand, fans like to see their teams kick the shit out of the overpaid underachieving Yankmees. Does that spell it out for you, numbnutz? :hw:

No, it doesn't spell it out. It just answers a question I DIDN'T ask, while avoiding what I DID ask. But I've come to expect that of people like you. Keep on hating a team that has shown class, while supporting habitual liars, miserable showboating assholes that turn solid doubles into barely a single because they love to watch what they assume is a homerun... like Bonds.

Of course 'baseball's best bought franchise'. There aren't many championships attained in any other way thse days, so let's not pretend that Arizona did it by some greater means other than buying it.


quit crying .. That team is bought to win championships.. They have the greatest most talented ball players on that tean , the most talented in the World to be exact .. It's always fun to watch the underdog come out on top, especially when you beat a team of the Yankees caliber.. you have to enjoy it and rub it in ... great series that was .. admitt it

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No, it doesn't spell it out. It just answers a question I DIDN'T ask, while avoiding what I DID ask. But I've come to expect that of people like you. Keep on hating a team that has shown class, while supporting habitual liars, miserable showboating assholes that turn solid doubles into barely a single because they love to watch what they assume is a homerun... like Bonds.

Bonds 2B 564
Ruth 2B 506

Yeah, I guess those of us who grew up with our team since we were 5 and went through the debacle of the 80's should just stop rooting for our team because they won 4 out of 5 World Series and go root for the Pirates. Fucking numbnutz douche.

Fuck you needledick, go root for a real team

And who is your 'right man'? Someone younger obviously, but we want names of this 'right man' you would be 'in'.

Now we're down to pointing out random typos and making fun of them? What is this, the sixth grade?

:gay: :hippy:



26 Championship
39 Division Champions
Baseball's Best as of yet.

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Apparantly so, it seems. My bad, FUGLY. Carry on.

I believe my scroll says it all.

It does, no doubt, but it does seem that Yankee fans (not necessairly yourself, but unquestionably the majority of them) are leaning way too heavily on the crutch of their historical superiority instead of looking openly and honestly at the glaring problems the team has right now and the record-payroll shattering teams full of questionmarks that they've fielded for the past 5 seasons now.

Sure, it could be argued that they've still won or tied for the division title every year, but certainly that's an example of settling for second best, one of the somewhat justifiable knocks on Red Sox Nation that Yankee fans would throw at us while it was still relevant.

Red Sox fans, of course, can't relate to their baseball team being the greatest of all time, but we can certainly relate to our basketball team holding the same title. Yet when some Lakers or Pistons fan begins going on and on about their accomplishments, you won't hear us shooting out nonsense like "16 World Championships", because it's not fucking relevant -- it's something that looks nice in the history books, sure, but has no bearing on today's game. Fact is, our team has spent poorly for a substantial stretch, signing questionable players to hefty, long-term contracts. They've made some flat out bad trades, and at times they've even found themselves in the position where they were on the verge of contention but didn't have the means to pull off that one big deal that could get them over the top.

That's gotta sound all too familiar to the objective Yankee fans of the world.

We as Celtic fans are realistic about our team to a fault in spite of the greatness they once achieved, whereas Yankee fans don't seem to care as much as they should about recent failings, because they've got those 26 World Championships that seem to justify everything.

What follows might as well be a transcript of a conversation between an objective Red Sox fan and your typical modern era Yankees supporter:

Red Sox Fan: "Yeah, not so sure signing Jaret Wright to a huge, long term deal was such a smart idea -- last I remember, the entire AL East owned the guy"

Yankees Fan: "26 World Championships, bro!"

RSF: "Uh, yeah -- not so sure about trading so much of what little young talent your organization has got left on the farm for Kevin Brown was so bright either. The guy's getting up there in years, isn't what he once was, and he's pretty injury prone"

YF: "1918!"

RSF: "Yeah, 2004. Look, wouldn't it have made more sense to address that shambles of a pitching rotation instead of throwing heaps of money at Johnny Damon? I mean, yeah, I'm sorry to see him go and all, and he'll help out for now, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't have 4 good years left - and 52 million dollars? Steinbrenner's crazy?"

YF: "CURSE OF THE BAMBINO!"

RSF: "Curse of the Mussina. Aren't you a bit worried that your team as a whole is fairly old, and your farm system's pretty much depleted?"

YF: "WHO'S YOUR DADDY?"

RSF: "Uh, you're aware he doesn't play for us anymore, right? Anyway, all I'm trying to say is that if I were a Yankee fan these past 5 years, I'd be pretty fucking pissed."

YF: "Bucky F'n Dent, bro!"

RSF: "Yeah, neither one of us were alive then. Well, it's been nice talking to you."

YF: "26 TO 6, MOTHERFUCKER!"





Shockingly accurate, if I do say so myself. You Yankee fans who actually debate as such and think you're coming off looking even somewhat intelligent have really gotta do something about that, because it's all pretty fucking retarded and everyone can see that. 2 years ago, you were all about telling us to live in the now, stop being happy to be second best, runner up is the first loser and all of that happy horseshit when the whole "1918" thing was still relevant. I'd think many of you'd be wise to take your own advice.

Greatest team in Major league baseball history? Yes indeed, and fair play to you. In this millenium, however, and the recent history that goes along with it, you're absolutely no better than 2 franchises who have yet to celebrate their 15th anniversaries, the Angels, the White Sox or your age old hated rivals.

Sometimes the truth hurts and it's something that you'd just as soon avoid. Trust me, no one knows this better than a lifelong Red Sox fan.

quit crying .. That team is bought to win championships.. They have the greatest most talented ball players on that tean , the most talented in the World to be exact .. It's always fun to watch the underdog come out on top, especially when you beat a team of the Yankees caliber.. you have to enjoy it and rub it in ... great series that was .. admitt it

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Not crying. Just stating facts. It's how sports entertainment is, as opposed to when it was just sports: You have to spend.

Bonds 2B 564
Ruth 2B 506

Think of what that total of 2bs would be if he weren't trotting half the way to first base. Thanks again for quoting me but not addressing my point. Old habits...

Now we're down to pointing out random typos and making fun of them? What is this, the sixth grade?


Wow, are you REALLY that humorless?
It was a funny sentence and I thought maybe... just MAYBE you'd appreciate it. Although how you call mistaking 'mind' for 'man' a typo I'll never know. I'm sorry you're SO sensitive about what I found a funny quote. I'll make sure not to bring ANY humor into this whatsoever.

Wow.

Christ, I'm a Yankee's fans, but listening to the nonsensical ramblings of a "anyone but the yankee's fan" makes me almost wish I wasn't so into baseball. I love the game, love it with a passion. I'll watch the Yes Network every single night for 6 months, just to keep tabs on my Yankee's. For me, it's not about "26 World CHampionships" or "39 American League Pennants". For me, it's all about one man throwing a ball to another so he can knock the shit out of it or die trying.

It's about passion, it's about the love of the game. It's about going out there for 162 games, banged up, bruised, and bloody, doing it all for your fans because you know that your fans live and die with you each and every day.

Because one team strives to be the best (shouldn't they all have that goal) and tends to be a bit more flashy about it does not justify all the hate that's given to them. Sure, their owner can get on a lot of people's nerves, but you know what? He loves his team. He is the Yankee's biggest fan, so maybe you guys know what it's like to be on the recieving end.

I don't "hate" the Red Sox. They've had a great team these past few years, and yes in 2004 they embarrassed us. But you know what? That's exactly why I love this game.

So stop being so juvenile. Grow up and just be a fan. Starting a thread like this, or a rant like that, just shows your ignorance.

Dude, it appears that you didn't wait for the punchline.

Wow.

Christ, I'm a Yankee's fans, but listening to the nonsensical ramblings of a "anyone but the yankee's fan" makes me almost wish I wasn't so into baseball. I love the game, love it with a passion. I'll watch the Yes Network every single night for 6 months, just to keep tabs on my Yankee's. For me, it's not about "26 World CHampionships" or "39 American League Pennants". For me, it's all about one man throwing a ball to another so he can knock the shit out of it or die trying.

It's about passion, it's about the love of the game. It's about going out there for 162 games, banged up, bruised, and bloody, doing it all for your fans because you know that your fans live and die with you each and every day.

Because one team strives to be the best (shouldn't they all have that goal) and tends to be a bit more flashy about it does not justify all the hate that's given to them. Sure, their owner can get on a lot of people's nerves, but you know what? He loves his team. He is the Yankee's biggest fan, so maybe you guys know what it's like to be on the recieving end.

I don't "hate" the Red Sox. They've had a great team these past few years, and yes in 2004 they embarrassed us. But you know what? That's exactly why I love this game.

So stop being so juvenile. Grow up and just be a fan. Started a thread like this, or a rant like that, just shows your ignorance.

That's gotta be one of the most logical justifications of being a true Yankees fan I've ever heard. Thanks for that.

Not everyone on both sides of this fairly overblown rivalry is completely ignorant, but those of us who aren't are fairly hard to find when surrounded by millions of dipshits urging one another to "cowboy up" or hollering about 1918 like they were answering the Final Jeopardy question; subject : history.

That's gotta be one of the most logical justifications of being a true Yankees fan I've ever heard. Thanks for that.

Not everyone on both sides of this fairly overblown rivalry is completely ignorant, but those of us who aren't are fairly hard to find when surrounded by millions of dipshits urging one another to "cowboy up" or hollering about 1918 like they were answering the Final Jeopardy question; subject : history.

I can deal with, and have great discussions with people who are over the whole "Cowboy Up" and "1918" bullshit.

It's those assholes that you can't talk to.

People who love the game, who understand it, are the people I keep my conversations with.

Grew up loving the Yankees...Billy Martin, Donny Baseball, Randolph, Winfield, Rickey,etc. & I liked them in the early 2000s with Paul O'Neil, Scott Brocius, etc. but goddamned they have turned me off in the last few years. They have absolutely no creativity in putting together a team. They basically play fantasy baseball - ARod, Sheffield, Damon, Johnson,....its ridiculous. & they havent realized that you cant buy a World Series. You have to take risks on up & coming dudes.....develop a farm system....get character players over superstars. They truly are the Evil Empire & I hope they keep throwing over-the-hill overpriced pitchers out there for the Red Sox to light up.

Oh yeah
Go A's

Think of what that total of 2bs would be if he weren't trotting half the way to first base. Thanks again for quoting me but not addressing my point. Old habits...

You don't know WTF you're talking about. Bonds has 500 steals. Two years ago he won the batting title. That doesn't happen without hustle. He's old, prone to leg problems, and doesn't have any cartilage in his left knee, so he doesn't run hard to first. Big fucking deal.

Dude, it appears that you didn't wait for the punchline.

If you're talking about me then yes, I didn't read through all of that. Sorry.

You don't know WTF you're talking about. Bonds has 500 steals. Two years ago he won the batting title. That doesn't happen without hustle. He's old, prone to leg problems, and doesn't have any cartilage in his left knee, so he doesn't run hard to first. Big fucking deal.
You STILL aren't addressing what I'm talking about. Sure, he has plenty of steals, because steals are another stat that showcase HIM. I guess what you are saying is that people like Bonds aren't more prone to admiring the arc and trajectory of their hits, assuming they're home runs and then at the last minute, realizing they will have to hustle just to make a single out of what was probably a double. THAT is what I'm talking about. I know you're as die-hard a BOnds fan as housewives are Oprah fans, so I don't expect you to admit or acknowledge that Bonds does this.
Compare the hustle of Edgar Martinez to Barry Bonds. THAT'S what I'm talking about.

You STILL aren't addressing what I'm talking about. Sure, he has plenty of steals, because steals are another stat that showcase HIM. I guess what you are saying is that people like Bonds aren't more prone to admiring the arc and trajectory of their hits, assuming they're home runs and then at the last minute, realizing they will have to hustle just to make a single out of what was probably a double. THAT is what I'm talking about. I know you're as die-hard a BOnds fan as housewives are Oprah fans, so I don't expect you to admit or acknowledge that Bonds does this.
Compare the hustle of Edgar Martinez to Barry Bonds. THAT'S what I'm talking about.

Dude, I have been watching Bonds on TV throughout the season and live and in person at least 20 games a year since 1993. From what I have observed, what you are saying is just plain wrong. In recent years, Bonds has not run hard to first unless he really thinks he can beat it out. He will not attempt to stretch a single into a double. He does often hit doubles in the "Death Valley" area of Pac Bell/SBC/ATT Park that an aggressive runner could easily turn into triples. He has stated that he is doing this to save his legs. When Bonds hits a ball out, there's no maybe about it, and it's not like he stands there for 5 seconds watching. But what I really want to know is, WTF does this have to do with hating the Yankmees? GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD AND START YOUR VERY OWN "I HATE BARRY THE CHEATER THREAD."

Fuck you needledick, go root for a real team

:sleep:

Dude, I have been watching Bonds on TV throughout the season and live and in person at least 20 games a year since 1993. From what I have observed, what you are saying is just plain wrong. In recent years, Bonds has not run hard to first unless he really thinks he can beat it out. He will not attempt to stretch a single into a double. He does often hit doubles in the "Death Valley" area of Pac Bell/SBC/ATT Park that an aggressive runner could easily turn into triples. He has stated that he is doing this to save his legs. When Bonds hits a ball out, there's no maybe about it, and it's not like he stands there for 5 seconds watching. But what I really want to know is, WTF does this have to do with hating the Yankmees? GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD AND START YOUR VERY OWN "I HATE BARRY THE CHEATER THREAD."

Get the fuck out? Make me, if you're going to be al ittle baby about it.
You're right: Bonds is the Be all-end all of baseball... no, of ALL sports. He hustles on EVERY play, he's a swell guy whom everybody loves. Just as you make total sense by saying that no one cares about the Yankees, yet people like you start threads about them... yes... nothing is going on with your team so you focus your energy on hating another team.
There's the sign of a true baseball fan-on the other side of the country, different league that has almost NOTHING to do with the Yankees, yet you're sitting there, all pissy and needing to hate. You're silly. I'm still here Sweetie... do something about it.
What I don't understand is-you created this thread for attention. Now you fucking got it and you're whining like a little bitch that doesn't understand.

Get the fuck out? Make me, if you're going to be al ittle baby about it.
You're right: Bonds is the Be all-end all of baseball... no, of ALL sports. He hustles on EVERY play, he's a swell guy whom everybody loves. Just as you make total sense by saying that no one cares about the Yankees, yet people like you start threads about them... yes... nothing is going on with your team so you focus your energy on hating another team.
There's the sign of a true baseball fan-on the other side of the country, different league that has almost NOTHING to do with the Yankees, yet you're sitting there, all pissy and needing to hate. You're silly. I'm still here Sweetie... do something about it.
What I don't understand is-you created this thread for attention. Now you fucking got it and you're whining like a little bitch that doesn't understand.

waaaah, Jack Shit doesn't like my team, waaaaah.... :funny:

waaaah, Jack Shit doesn't like my team, waaaaah.... :funny:

OK, now I see you're just in this for attention.
By the way, I always find it really lame when people try to do the Artie WAAAAH thing, especially in print. Nice to see you're original with your 'comedy'.

Sometimes the truth hurts and it's something that you'd just as soon avoid. Trust me, no one knows this better than a lifelong Red Sox fan.

You know no one likes you here on SFN. You should look at this link that only talks about you and only you rockover boston, or should I said cockovermanass. As, you can see I am not the only person here who wants you out. Have a nice day tree hugging hippe.

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104012

here we go again... :rolleyes:

Dude, I have been watching Bonds on TV throughout the season and live and in person at least 20 games a year since 1993. From what I have observed, what you are saying is just plain wrong. In recent years, Bonds has not run hard to first unless he really thinks he can beat it out. He will not attempt to stretch a single into a double. He does often hit doubles in the "Death Valley" area of Pac Bell/SBC/ATT Park that an aggressive runner could easily turn into triples. He has stated that he is doing this to save his legs. When Bonds hits a ball out, there's no maybe about it, and it's not like he stands there for 5 seconds watching. But what I really want to know is, WTF does this have to do with hating the Yankmees? GET THE FUCK OUT OF MY THREAD AND START YOUR VERY OWN "I HATE BARRY THE CHEATER THREAD."


:rolleyes: how's the gheeey couch in San Fran? :rolleyes:

:rofl:

Now that is fucking hilarious.

OK, now I see you're just in this for attention.
By the way, I always find it really lame when people try to do the Artie WAAAAH thing, especially in print. Nice to see you're original with your 'comedy'.

I like your posts, but this one just isn't nice...I think when I use the "waaaaah" online it makes great comedy:hw:

You know no one likes you here on SFN. You should look at this link that only talks about you and only you rockover boston, or should I said cockovermanass. As, you can see I am not the only person here who wants you out. Have a nice day tree hugging hippe.

http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=104012

I'm assuming that someone pulled this on you and you fell for it, huh?

You know what they say; it's better for everyone to assume that you're a dipshit then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Go play in traffic.

I'm assuming that someone pulled this on you and you fell for it, huh?

You know what they say; it's better for everyone to assume that you're a dipshit then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

Go play in traffic.

I will, once I am done fucking your dead mother's mother eye socket. 125-50 best ever to date, with three rounds in the post season. Go and fuck a duck cockovermanass .

Again, remember when the real Yankee fans would talk shit about us for living in the past, or being content to be second best?

All of the irrelevant, dated statistics in the world aren't going to help you look like any less of an idiot. Try talking about the here and now -- hell, or even recent history.

Hell, just try making one post that isn't fucking atrocious. Gotta start somewhere. Try and be at least remotely objective, back up your facts, and stop sipping on the Yankee kool-aid.

And my grandmother's not dead, so in addition to being awful, your recess-time insult doesn't even apply.

And my grandmother's not dead, so in addition to being awful, your recess-time insult doesn't even apply.

:mad:

I like your posts, but this one just isn't nice...I think when I use the "waaaaah" online it makes great comedy:hw:

Probably so, but you don't use it to avoid actually addressing something because you have no argument. Of course, you're also not the type that starts a thread about something and then insinuates that you don't care about the subject.

Again, remember when the real Yankee fans would talk shit about us for living in the past, or being content to be second best?

All of the irrelevant, dated statistics in the world aren't going to help you look like any less of an idiot. Try talking about the here and now -- hell, or even recent history.
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The most recent history? Like how the Yankees still win the Division and the Red Sox somehow need more than 162 games in a mammoth regular season to finish ahead of the Yankees? Oh wait... I'm sure that's irellevant as well. Only what suits you.

What's going on with all the Yankee/Boston talk. DODGERS in 06'.

The Yankmees are like one a those all star jams at the end of a Live Aid concert -- looks good on paper, but the whole is less than the sum of the parts.

The most recent history? Like how the Yankees still win the Division and the Red Sox somehow need more than 162 games in a mammoth regular season to finish ahead of the Yankees? Oh wait... I'm sure that's irellevant as well. Only what suits you.

Winning the division, or even tying for the division lead, is still settling for second best, no matter which way you'd like to try and spin it.

With a $70 million+ payroll differential, the Yankees should probably be beating the Red Sox by a good 15-25 game margin every year, and the recent games against one another should be a helluva lot more lopsided than they are. With a $100+ million differential, at least, the Yankees should be leaving the rest of Major League Baseball's franchises in the dust.

And they're not.

Greatest team in baseball history? Unquestionably.

Biggest underachievers in sports history over a 5+ year period? Sure looks it.

And only one of those two things is remotely relevant right now.

Winning the division, or even tying for the division lead, is still settling for second best, no matter which way you'd like to try and spin it.

With a $70 million+ payroll differential, the Yankees should probably be beating the Red Sox by a good 15-25 game margin every year, and the recent games against one another should be a helluva lot more lopsided than they are. With a $100+ million differential, at least, the Yankees should be leaving the rest of Major League Baseball's franchises in the dust.

And they're not.

Greatest team in baseball history? Unquestionably.

Biggest underachievers in sports history over a 5+ year period? Sure looks it.

And only one of those two things is remotely relevant right now.


:stretch:

Winning the division, or even tying for the division lead, is still settling for second best, no matter which way you'd like to try and spin it.

With a $70 million+ payroll differential, the Yankees should probably be beating the Red Sox by a good 15-25 game margin every year, and the recent games against one another should be a helluva lot more lopsided than they are. With a $100+ million differential, at least, the Yankees should be leaving the rest of Major League Baseball's franchises in the dust.

And they're not.

Greatest team in baseball history? Unquestionably.

Biggest underachievers in sports history over a 5+ year period? Sure looks it.

And only one of those two things is remotely relevant right now.

I truly admire your ability to spin EVERYTHING. It's amazing. Sometimes the payroll is a factor when it's convenient... sometimes not.
It reminds me of how everyone was crying in the late 90s saying 'It's not fair, no one has a chance against the Yankees giant payroll! And they're the Evil Empire because of that'. Yet no one points the finger at MLB... it's ALL the Yankees fault... and then it was all proven wrong when the big, bad, evil empire DIDN'T win it all, instead a smaller market team did. But people STILL kept pissing and moaning about the big, bad Yankees, even though they were 1: One of the classiest franchises in sports during their run in the 90s and 2: Reminded EVERYONE to pay attention to the fundamentals and it WILL help you win games.
So keep on hating and keep on spinning it.

The Yankmees are like one a those all star jams at the end of a Live Aid concert -- looks good on paper, but the whole is less than the sum of the parts.

This all star jam has accomplished more than what your team has. They seem more like one of those Battle of the Bands where... sure... they know how to play, and technically, they're a team... but they don't actually win anything.

But really... I know I've asked before and you avoid the question, preferring to instead insult and do your lame, unoriginal impression of Artie... but I'll ask again: How is it that the Yankees have done anything to bother you when you live on the other side of the country and your team has nothing to do with the Yankees? Is it just because it's the thing to do? It's easy to pile on with other people who all love to complain? What is your reasoning? If you were in Boston or Kansas City or even formerly Montreal... but in S.F.?

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This all star jam has accomplished more than what your team has. They seem more like one of those Battle of the Bands where... sure... they know how to play, and technically, they're a team... but they don't actually win anything.

But really... I know I've asked before and you avoid the question, preferring to instead insult and do your lame, unoriginal impression of Artie... but I'll ask again: How is it that the Yankees have done anything to bother you when you live on the other side of the country and your team has nothing to do with the Yankees? Is it just because it's the thing to do? It's easy to pile on with other people who all love to complain? What is your reasoning? If you were in Boston or Kansas City or even formerly Montreal... but in S.F.?

Call it irrational hatred. There really is no other explanation. :hw:

This all star jam has accomplished more than what your team has.

God, I should hope so, at 3 times the payroll.

Call it irrational hatred. There really is no other explanation. :hw:

That's it? All of this vitriol and hatred and ranting and raving and your only answer is simply 'irrational hatred'? Why not hate child TV stars? Or Llamas? Or ANYTHING? I mean, to be this vehement and when asked a pointed question, instead of answering it you just say that?
I guess I shouldn't have expected anything enlightening or illuminating but Christ, it's just such a bullshit answer.

[B]I truly admire your ability to spin EVERYTHING. It's amazing. Sometimes the payroll is a factor when it's convenient... sometimes not.

No, the payroll differential is always a factor, or at the very least should be. There's no rhyme or reason as to why this team shouldn't be cakewalking through the regular and postseason with the advantage that they give themselves --- and yes, in your defense, other teams could spend like this if they so desired; not many other teams, no, but there's definitly a short list.

It reminds me of how everyone was crying in the late 90s saying 'It's not fair, no one has a chance against the Yankees giant payroll! And they're the Evil Empire because of that'.

May wanna look up exactly how, and perhaps more importantly, when, the "Evil Empire" quote came about. Plus, it was only when other teams did substantially increase their own payrolls that anyone else had a chance - look at the Marlins' 2 year team payrolls for all the proof of this one would ever need, as that team was also lambasted by some for attempting to buy their first World championship, and whether that's true or not, the results don't lie.

Yet no one points the finger at MLB... it's ALL the Yankees fault...

This is an extremely fair point. Somewhere along the way, the league really needed to take a better look at either a salary cap, better revenue sharing, or perhaps both. Let's face it, the luxury tax is pretty much bullshit; the teams that can afford to pay it will do so, and it still doesn't stop anyone from creating a $200 million franchise if they so desire.

and then it was all proven wrong when the big, bad, evil empire DIDN'T win it all, instead a smaller market team did.

1.) Miami is by no means a small market.
2.) As previously mentioned, many stand firm in their belief that the Marlins bought that championship, a stance that's strongly supported by them completely dismantling the team once they'd done so.

But people STILL kept pissing and moaning about the big, bad Yankees, even though they were 1: One of the classiest franchises in sports during their run in the 90s

That's really nothing more than a matter of personal opinion.

and 2: Reminded EVERYONE to pay attention to the fundamentals and it WILL help you win games.

I'm pretty sure; nay, am positive; that it's been the Oakland franchise that's been universally credited with reminding everyone to pay attention to fundamentals.

I also don't recall anyone referring to the Yankee mini-dynasty as the most fundamentally sound team in recent memory. They'd bunt when it was necessary. They'd steal bases when it was possible. They'd hit and run when the situation called for it. That's about it. I defy you to find me a team that doesn't do all of that, save the extremely recent, post-Moneyball Oakland squads.

So keep on hating and keep on spinning it.

Someone's spinning things, anyway. Ain't me.

No, the payroll differential is always a factor, or at the very least should be. There's no rhyme or reason as to why this team shouldn't be cakewalking through the regular and postseason with the advantage that they give themselves --- and yes, in your defense, other teams could spend like this if they so desired; not many other teams, no, but there's definitly a short list.



May wanna look up exactly how, and perhaps more importantly, when, the "Evil Empire" quote came about. Plus, it was only when other teams did substantially increase their own payrolls that anyone else had a chance - look at the Marlins' 2 year team payrolls for all the proof of this one would ever need, as that team was also lambasted by some for attempting to buy their first World championship, and whether that's true or not, the results don't lie.



This is an extremely fair point. Somewhere along the way, the league really needed to take a better look at either a salary cap, better revenue sharing, or perhaps both. Let's face it, the luxury tax is pretty much bullshit; the teams that can afford to pay it will do so, and it still doesn't stop anyone from creating a $200 million franchise if they so desire.



1.) Miami is by no means a small market.
2.) As previously mentioned, many stand firm in their belief that the Marlins bought that championship, a stance that's strongly supported by them completely dismantling the team once they'd done so.



That's really nothing more than a matter of personal opinion.



I'm pretty sure; nay, am positive; that it's been the Oakland franchise that's been universally credited with reminding everyone to pay attention to fundamentals.

I also don't recall anyone referring to the Yankee mini-dynasty as the most fundamentally sound team in recent memory. They'd bunt when it was necessary. They'd steal bases when it was possible. They'd hit and run when the situation called for it. That's about it. I defy you to find me a team that doesn't do all of that, save the extremely recent, post-Moneyball Oakland squads.



Someone's spinning things, anyway. Ain't me.

I never was referring to Miami.
You DO spin things.
You don't recall alot of things when it's convenient for you.
Maybe not recently, and that's where the Yankees recent failings come from-because George III decided he'd rather have big names and big hitters in the lineup.
Point to anything that wasn't classy about the lineups of those 90s Championships. They showed a lot of class as a team which is why so many in the media questioned why irrational fans around the U.S. that still hated the Yankees did just that. There wasn't anything about them as a team that could be pointed to: no egos, no superstar attitude. It was a great time.
Of course that's just the opinion of non-Boston homers. You guys have to hate, just for the sake of hating. And of course THAT'S just opinion as well. But that's YOUR opinion, so you can have it blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

Wordy fucks :rolleyes:

I never was referring to Miami.

Then who on earth else could you have been referring to here:

and then it was all proven wrong when the big, bad, evil empire DIDN'T win it all, instead a smaller market team did.

You DO spin things.

I seem to recall stating facts, or pointing out that some of your facts are merely opinions. That's not spin.

You don't recall alot of things when it's convenient for you.

Such as?

Maybe not recently, and that's where the Yankees recent failings come from-because George III decided he'd rather have big names and big hitters in the lineup.

As opposed to what, though -- fielding a team that has a realistic shot of winning the World Series? If so, that seems a bit strange. Rolling out a fantasy owner's dream lineup and a rotation that a fantasy owner would have loved (several years ago) just doesn't seem like good business.

Point to anything that wasn't classy about the lineups of those 90s Championships. They showed a lot of class as a team which is why so many in the media questioned why irrational fans around the U.S. that still hated the Yankees did just that. There wasn't anything about them as a team that could be pointed to: no egos, no superstar attitude. It was a great time.
Of course that's just the opinion of non-Boston homers. You guys have to hate, just for the sake of hating. And of course THAT'S just opinion as well. But that's YOUR opinion, so you can have it blah, blah, blah, blah, blah

I don't recall saying that the Yankees didn't handle themselves with class in the early going, I pointed out that there's really no way of determining that they were any classier of an organization than, say, the Kansas City Royals, who bent over backwards for the fans they had left.

In all actuality, that was a pretty classy era for baseball in general -- there weren't any teams who handled themselves poorly, and egomaniacs in the game as a whole were few and far between, so it's really hard for it to be said that any one team displayed that much more class than any other.

Were the Yankees a classier organization than the Dan Duquette-era Red Sox? Of course they were. So were most if not all of the other teams.

Wordy opinionated fuck :rolleyes: