1) THE FUCKING MACHINE EPISODE DOESN'T SHOW SHIT. WHAT THE FUCK

2) cutting to artie/robin/howard and everyone during the sybian rides

3) showing baba booey and will during the sybian rides

4) putting different episodes on the a la carte service and not on the subscription service

if they dont do something about this shit im cancelling after this month. fuck this shit. fuck you guys this is a rip off so far

Agreed. The Fuck machine episode was just a waste of time. It's not just not showing the penetration, they wouldn't even get any close-ups when the girl was getting ready to use the machine. The second the girls even start getting undressed they cut away to extended close-ups of Howard's reaction. There was not one intersting visual in the whole episode. Playboy's NightCalls and HBO Real Sex have shown more. Even the Playboy evaluation episode sucked. At least get totally naked. But if someone whips out ther dick you can bet there will be an extended close-up of it.

Agreed on all points. They might as well be E! Shows if we can't see what goes on in the studio.

BIG 2nd!!

It sucks lately...!

Wow that does sound really lame. Why are they charging a premium for it and you can't even see it

Yeah man. I mean, I like it a lot and it's totally worth it and everything, but that's just it. We're PAYING for it!

I'm gonna give them time to fix this screw-up, but it better get better fast. I'm subscribing to cable just for HowardTV. I have satellite for everything else.

If there is an issue with the editing because of multiple cable cable companies, and the solution is to edit to the lowest common denominator...then I'm dropping the service.

Stern left regular radio because he didn't want to broadcast something that was censored so he didn't offend the most sensative listeners. HowardTV should be the same. Keep all the content. Screw anyone who doesn't like it.

AMEN, I wen to cable because of HSOD, i have Directv and cenceled it for this......

You're all right, I flet liek it was E! all over again, what a shame

i have less than half of the shows listed on howard.tv's and people keep talking about all these shows I dont even have, and they say they are all edited bad. :mad:

what happens in April? does all of this get fixed? according to a time warner cable page it says they start putting on sirius shows April 1st

If I don't see Richard Christie's wang (or Beet's, or anyone else's) for the rest of my life, I will be grateful.

Oh yeah, bring back the drunken Artie episodes for Christ's sake! Us Cablevision subscribers only had a week or so for those. Artie drunk in Vegas was only a 19 minute episode, so it ain't a bandwidth issue. Cycle out the less popular ones (why is 'Gary T-shirt' still out there?) and bring back the drunken mess that is Artie Lange.

I've been dissapointed with HTV. Not much better than the 'E' show. Considering we are paying for this service, so far... I'm not impressed. A lot of editing, a lot of that idiot Sal messing with Ba Ba Booey. Seems like the same thing over & over again. :mad:

peep game

i dont live for the sybian and fucking machine episodes

watch some of the other ones, wanna see porno, watch porno, i enjoy the stern show to laugh, its comedy, if i wanna watch some chick take plastic in her puss i'll download it on the internet.

The problem is, if the visual component of the humor is not shown, there is nothing to laugh at either. Imagine the waxing episode not being able to show any of the actual waxing. It would be nothing but reaction shots and close-ups of Richards face. Boring television. Same thing with the fuck machine episode. Not only was it not sexy, it wasn't funny or entertaining. It seemed like a bunch of random reaction shots thrown together. You literally couldn't even really tell what was happening. It's not about wanting porn. It's about wanting the Stern show uncensored, as we're paying for.

Hopefully Doug will realize after threads like this that we WANT OUR FUCKING HARDCORE SQUIRTING HOWARD TV!!!!!!!!! :pray: :pray:

I'd rather see the squiriting than Fred's eyebrows going up and down during the climax for FUCKS SAKE!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

dont get to excited too fast

Yeah its like Having HBO and having to pay extra to watch the newer Movies

The problem is, if the visual component of the humor is not shown, there is nothing to laugh at either. Imagine the waxing episode not being able to show any of the actual waxing. It would be nothing but reaction shots and close-ups of Richards face. Boring television. Same thing with the fuck machine episode. Not only was it not sexy, it wasn't funny or entertaining. It seemed like a bunch of random reaction shots thrown together. You literally couldn't even really tell what was happening. It's not about wanting porn. It's about wanting the Stern show uncensored, as we're paying for.

I agree completely. A lot of people say, "if you want porn, then go watch porn", which is a weak arguement. I don't think anyone subscribed to Howard TV to jerk off. We subscribed to be entertained with uncensored material. I don't think that Howard TV is delivering on that promise.

Also, the biggest "exclusive" content item was "Supertwink" which was the lamest piece of unfunny garbage I've ever seen. If I want to not laugh and be frustrated about a bit that goes no where, I'll watch the last two skits on SNL.

So far, Howard TV has no vision, and that problem rests on Goodstein's desk.

The problem is, if the visual component of the humor is not shown, there is nothing to laugh at either. Imagine the waxing episode not being able to show any of the actual waxing. It would be nothing but reaction shots and close-ups of Richards face. Boring television. Same thing with the fuck machine episode. Not only was it not sexy, it wasn't funny or entertaining. It seemed like a bunch of random reaction shots thrown together. You literally couldn't even really tell what was happening. It's not about wanting porn. It's about wanting the Stern show uncensored, as we're paying for.

That's well said. I don't think anybody needs it to be a substitute for porn. We can find plenty of that in better quality and variety on the internet. The point of the TV show is to give us the visual side of what we heard. When chicks get naked, we could see hotter chicks elsewhere, but we want the closure of seeing what the girl we heard about on the radio looks like.

It's not about porn, it's about giving the full story of what happened in the studio. We certainly got that with Richard's waxing. The Fuckingmachine episode didn't do that.

I agree completely. A lot of people say, "if you want porn, then go watch porn", which is a weak arguement. I don't think anyone subscribed to Howard TV to jerk off. We subscribed to be entertained with uncensored material. I don't think that Howard TV is delivering on that promise. yes

if howard said from the beginning that howard tv would be MOSTLY uncensored or said it would be uncensored except for _______ this would be a different story. but he's been pushing this a scompletely uncensored and that is a lie.

Playboy's NightCalls and HBO Real Sex have shown more. Even the Playboy evaluation episode sucked. At least get totally naked. But if someone whips out ther dick you can bet there will be an extended close-up of it. :lol:
Do you think Doug's gay? That would explain a lot.

1 - The missing shows from city/city is just laziness, if you are missing a show you shouldn't have to pay for the whole subscription (ie, if you got Howard 100 but not 101 or for that matter 25 random Sirius channels were missing you wouldn't want to pay the whole subscription fee)

2 - The lack of new shows or even past ones that are gone are just frustrating for someone who wants them. Like me. I have yet to see Supertwink!

3 - Where is all the content we were promised? It isn't even brought up on the show - as a matter of fact I feel Howard thinks of HTV as a VERY secondary thing even though in many cases it cost more than Sirius.

I have 2 Sirius subscriptions and my Howard TV Subscription, although I do not plan on cancelling today, I will if things don't look up in the next few months. The radio show couldn't be better and the extras on 101 make everything even better - so air all that stuff dammit!

Has anyone emailed or called howard's show and said any of this? Everyone I have heard always says HTV is great. I don't agree, if it doesn't get better soon, I'm dropping it.

Anyone say anything to Doug? Is Doug even reading this???

On my cable system Howard on demand is grouped together with all the other porn channels (Playboy, Erotic network, Spice, etc). When you turn on HTV it even has an explicit warning: EXPLICIT ADULTS ONLY PROGRAMMING.

When a station is catagorized as "ADULTS ONLY" the cable companies naturally feel justified in jacking the price up a bit. That's fine, but the problem is that the way the fuck machine episode was presented did not use an editing standard of an explicit adults only channel. It essentially used an HBO type standard. Don't classify something as "EXPLICIT ADULTS ONLY CONTENT", and charge a fee associated with that classification, but then show a level of content on a par with standard late night HBO programming.

Showing a couple of porn chicks using a dildo should simply not be an issue on what is cleary labeled "EXPLICIT ADULTS ONLY PROGRAMMING". It is standard fare on every other adults only station. Don't ask people to pay the premium cable companies charge for this type of adult programming, but then give Cinemax level content. If you have porn chicks using dildos on the radio, and you proclaim "Ya gotta see this on HTV", encourage people to pay a fee to see it, don't be suprised when people get a liitle pissed when they turn on the station and see virtually nothing.

On my cable system Howard on demand is grouped together with all the other porn channels (Playboy, Erotic network, Spice, etc). When you turn on HTV it even has an explicit warning: EXPLICIT ADULTS ONLY PROGRAMMING.

When a station is catagorized as "ADULTS ONLY" the cable companies naturally feel justified in jacking the price up a bit. That's fine, but the problem is that the way the fuck machine episode was presented did not use an editing standard of an explicit adults only channel. It essentially used an HBO type standard. Don't classify something as "EXPLICIT ADULTS ONLY CONTENT", and charge a fee associated with that classification, but then show a level of content on a par with standard late night HBO programming.

Showing a couple of porn chicks using a dildo should simply not be an issue on what is cleary labeled "EXPLICIT ADULTS ONLY PROGRAMMING". It is standard fare on every other adults only station. Don't ask people to pay the premium cable companies charge for this type of adult programming, but then give Cinemax level content. If you have porn chicks using dildos on the radio, and you proclaim "Ya gotta see this on HTV", encourage people to pay a fee to see it, don't be suprised when people get a liitle pissed when they turn on the station and see virtually nothing.

couldn't agree more

Well I'm scared as I just signed up yesterday.........

I think that Doug reads most, if not all of the posts in this forum. He e-mailed me directly (twice), and I just e-mailed him today.

I don't think he's very happy with our constant complaints, which is understandable, but also unfortunate.

It will be interesting to see what he does, or has to say about the future of Howard TV. I think we deserve some answers and an "official statement".

I'm very interested in seeing how he (and the Howard TV staff) handles the Stern Fan Film Festival. After that, I'll probably make my decision on whether or not to keep it.

I think that Doug reads most, if not all of the posts in this forum. He e-mailed me directly (twice), and I just e-mailed him today.

I don't think he's very happy with our constant complaints, which is understandable, but also unfortunate.

It will be interesting to see what he does, or has to say about the future of Howard TV. I think we deserve some answers and an "official statement".

I'm very interested in seeing how he (and the Howard TV staff) handles the Stern Fan Film Festival. After that, I'll probably make my decision on whether or not to keep it.



heh, id like to talk directly to doug, but he probably doesnt want to hear my first amendment rants... although i think he could learn some stuff that the indemand people are telling him.

the content updates are slow..
the editing is well below par on the sex shows


Howard TV grade after 5 months: C-

Howard TV grade after 5 months: C-

I agree with the grade. I gave it a C- after the initial release, and it's holding steady. I can't say it's gotten better or worse.

Here is a quick excerpt from my e-mail to Doug:

"It seems like you're stuck in “E! Show Mode”, as even the Sirius shows on Howard TV look and feel like the old E! shows, only uncensored. There is no sense of evolution OR revolution."

I don't think he's very happy with our constant complaints, which is understandable, but also unfortunate.



Doug could easily put an end to most of the complaints by posting in the HSOD forum the iNDEMAND editing guidelines they use to edit the shows.

He should also address the distribution and missing content issues that HSOD subscribers are experiencing.

Another excerpt from my e-mail:

"One thing that I would like to see you, or someone from Howard TV do, is make a statement about the various restrictions and limitations that you have to deal with in regard to producing shows for Howard TV. As dedicated fans, and paying subscribers, I feel that we have the right to know exactly what you can and cannot show. Also, some statement about load times, differences between providers, and an explanation of how Howard TV got into that mess in the first place. After getting all that out, maybe an overview on what type of plans are in the works to resolve those problems would be appropriate. (So, not just you saying, “We’re looking into it”, but actually what you are doing to resolve it.)"

good work... we sholdnt come off as asshole-ish (because we arent trying to be, we just want answers to legit questions)


it just feels so half-assed... so E! show, like you said.

the original, entertaining content is simply not there. its still just celeb interviews with a sprinkle of backstage stuff thrown in.

maybe i was just expecting so much more from these guys and they dont have the man-power to do it

finally howard is starting to take goodstein to task for not getting things done. He sounds like he's completely overwhelmed and the only excuse goodstein gives is that he has so many things to do. His best line today was telling howard the festival is already 50k over budget and his excuse: "things cost lots of money". Sad. Doug Goodstein is ruining howard t.v. and appears to be ruining the film festival as well.

f jackie
f timmy's skull

f doug "things cost lots of money" goodstein

I have one gripe about HTV and it is the best or the week vs the daily show segment. I think the best of the week should include stuff other then the Daily section. Why would I want to watch the same interview 2x, with one of those being slightly more condensed?

Keep the daily show as it is, but use the best of the week to highlight other segments of the show