Some of the recording industry's largest labels have filed sued against XM Satellite radio over it's Inno device which can record up to 50 hours of music.

Via the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), some of the biggest labels in the music industry have filed suit against XM Satellite Radio over its Inno receiver and recorder, which can save up to 50 hours of XM satellite radio programming. The labels allege that the Inno's recording capabilities amount to "wholesale infringement" because XM has not signed a distribution agreement with the labels who own rights to the music XM broadcasts.

The suit seeks a whopping $150,000 in damages for every song copied by XM customers to their Inno devices. The suit does not seek any payments from XM customers themselves, just XM Satellite Radio.

XM argues it does not require a distribution agreement with music labels to market the Inno: they maintain the device enables consumers to tune into and record radio under well-established legal terms. Moreover, they say such distribution licensed amount to a tax on satellite radio consumers, which would raise costs and stifle innovation within the industry.

The record labels content the XM's new device is functionally equivalent to portable music players like iPods which play music from pay-per-download and subscription digital music services. XM's primary competitor, Sirius, has entered into a distribution agreement with record labels, as have digital music distributors Apple, Yahoo, Rhapsody, and Napster.


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Ya beat me to it...oh well
*ANDREW DICE CLAY LAUGH*

The suit seeks a whopping $150,000 in damages for every song copied by XM customers to their Inno devices. The suit does not seek any payments from XM customers themselves, just XM Satellite Radio.
On what level does
ONE HUNDRED FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS
per song make sense?

I hope this would be laughed out of court for such a dollar amount.

Screw the record companies, the genie is out of the bottle and it's not going back in.

I may have to buy one of these before XM withdraws them. XM had the PCR, but it was pulled over similar complaints from the greedy ___s at the record companies.

http://www.engadget.com/2004/09/01/xm-pcr-we-hardly-knew-ye/

This is the same stupidity that will end up suing podcasters that have a total audience of 50 people over using 20 seconds of a song at some point.

Copyright was only supposed to last a few years, not for a century! Think about the Beatles records, as an example. They are decades old, but yet someone still owns them and they can't be played or covered without paying up.

This damn price-for-everything culture that puts advertising everywhere is killing the nation...

The only way to fix it is to flush it all away.

wouldnt they be able to sue sirius as well for having the s-50?

wouldnt they be able to sue sirius as well for having the s-50?

Sirius already came to an agreement with all the music labels over the S50.

And Sirius is Ok for their version of this Inno thingy. Someone at Siri headquarters knows how to dot i's and cross t's apparently.

You people don't get to excited about XM because it's gonna affect both comapnies no matter what. It's a bad thing happening here.

No it's not because Sirius already had a deal that doesn't affect them. Fuck XM. They have two lawsuits against them now!

Happy days are here again!

Look at the stock, like I said, it is affecting Sirius. Whatever negative happens to XM, Sirius will be affected. If you call that happy days, then you need to open your eyes.

Sirius is dowm but not because of the lawsuit. YOU open your eyes man! :ae:

Sirius is dowm but not because of the lawsuit. YOU open your eyes man! :ae:

Please explain why it dropped below 4.00 today to 3.99?

The Dow took a hit today. It finished down over 200 today. The Dow's drop was its largest one-day loss in three years. Many stocks fell today not just Sirius.

What he said.

$3.99......time for me to buy

You people don't get to excited about XM because it's gonna affect both comapnies no matter what. It's a bad thing happening here.

I agree on that. The XMS Titanic is sucking Siri down with it. Im hoping that the ties break or loosen once Howard starts streaming and the new RIAA - freindly Siri portable hits. Also, Arbitron is going to start counting Sat radio and internet streaming in later surveys, so there might be some numbers that will show the strength of siri programming. Hell I wouldnt be surprised if XM is shown to be bullshiting about sub numbers when its ratings show 3 mil people listening but 6.5 mil total subs. Either everyone has two subs a piece or there are lots of free unused subs.

I agree on that. The XMS Titanic is sucking Siri down with it. Im hoping that the ties break or loosen once Howard starts streaming and the new RIAA - freindly Siri portable hits. Also, Arbitron is going to start counting Sat radio and internet streaming in later surveys, so there might be some numbers that will show the strength of siri programming. Hell I wouldnt be surprised if XM is shown to be bullshiting about sub numbers when its ratings show 3 mil people listening but 6.5 mil total subs. Either everyone has two subs a piece or there are lots of free unused subs.

Another thing that will affect Sirius is, is with future portables. If the RIAA is able to control what XM can do with the Inno, imagine how crippled future XM AND Sirius portables will be. Nobody will want to buy them if you can't have what you want on it when you want it.

I wouldn't laugh too hard over this lawsuit. Similar devices are due to be released by Sirius this summer and I was actually looking forward to getting one.

This may put a damper on the release if these companies are going to get lawsuit-happy. :mad: