If a ball is hit and the outfielder jumps and catches the ball but the momentum carries him into the bullpen, is it a homerun or an out?

I think I remember the rules stating its a homerun, but does anyone know for sure?

crisp didnt catch it tho

no one said he did u fuck. Would it be an out though?

I believe it is an out, just as it is when a guy goes diving in the stands and catches a foul ball. Not 100% but I would think it works the same way.

Should be an out. Jeter flew into the stands and made the catch and it counted. But that was on a foul, but i assume the rule applys to both.

it's an out but the ball is dead and any runners on base can advance one base....unless when the player makes the catch no part of his body is over the playing field. then it would be a hr

i think, using jeter's catch, if he dove into the stands and his entire body (including feet) was in the stands it wouldn't have been a catch

i'm not totally sure if i'm correct but i think that's the rule

This is what mlb.com says but its kind of a grey area.

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/official_info/official_rules/definition_terms_2.jsp

A CATCH is the act of a fielder in getting secure possession in his hand or glove of a ball in flight and firmly holding it; providing he does not use his cap, protector, pocket or any other part of his uniform in getting possession. It is not a catch, however, if simultaneously or immediately following his contact with the ball, he collides with a player, or with a wall, or if he falls down, and as a result of such collision or falling, drops the ball. It is not a catch if a fielder touches a fly ball which then hits a member of the offensive team or an umpire and then is caught by another defensive player. If the fielder has made the catch and drops the ball while in the act of making a throw following the catch, the ball shall be adjudged to have been caught. In establishing the validity of the catch, the fielder shall hold the ball long enough to prove that he has complete control of the ball and that his release of the ball is voluntary and intentional.
Rule 2.00 (Catch) Comment: A catch is legal if the ball is finally held by any fielder, even though juggled, or held by another fielder before it touches the ground. Runners may leave their bases the instant the first fielder touches the ball. A fielder may reach over a fence, railing, rope or other line of demarcation to make a catch. He may jump on top of a railing, or canvas that may be in foul ground. No interference should be allowed when a fielder reaches over a fence, railing, rope or into a stand to catch a ball. He does so at his own risk.

Should be an out. Jeter flew into the stands and made the catch and it counted. But that was on a foul, but i assume the rule applys to both.

MLB.com says
"Boston had runners at the corners with two outs in the 12th, when Trot Nixon lifted a fly ball to shallow left field. Jeter ran the ball down near the foul line, catching it before diving head-first into the stands."

He caught the ball and his momentum took him out of play, but the play im talking about is, like coco last night, he jumped and if he caught it, he would have been in the air, not touching the field of play when he made contact

out or homerun?

as long as any part of his body was over the playing field when he catches the ball, i believe, it's an out

MLB.com says
"Boston had runners at the corners with two outs in the 12th, when Trot Nixon lifted a fly ball to shallow left field. Jeter ran the ball down near the foul line, catching it before diving head-first into the stands."

He caught the ball and his momentum took him out of play, but the play im talking about is, like coco last night, he jumped and if he caught it, he would have been in the air, not touching the field of play when he made contact

out or homerun? How many more times do we need to say it?

It is an out. When a guy a few years back made a catch and ran through the wall. He held on and it was an out. He ended up outside of the playing ground, how is it different?

It is an out. When a guy a few years back made a catch and ran through the wall. He held on and it was an out. He ended up outside of the playing ground, how is it different?
because he made the catch while in the field of play

How many more times do we need to say it?

say what? what has been said? everyone has said their opinion followed by "I think so" or "I believe"

say what? what has been said? everyone has said their opinion followed by "I think so" or "I believe" You are just as capable of looking up the rule as anyone else.

because he made the catch while in the field of play

The play last night, he would have had in the field of play and momentum would have taken him out of the field of play.

Pretty good episode.

You are just as capable of looking up the rule as anyone else.

I have and I still cant find a definitive ruling, all im looking for is "jerry remy said the ruling is....."

and ill be happy

i've posted the question on another site i post on...there are a few statisticians from espn that post there. they're usually pretty good with a response and example

I know john kruk and i talked to him moments ago and he told me it would have been an out.

I know john kruk and i talked to him moments ago and he told me it would have been an out.

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if you catch it, its an out no matter where you end up

I have always thought homerun. Here is what I found:

h. Ball becomes dead ("chalked" DBT-Dead Ball Territory)---If the fielder is straddling any line (chalk or otherwise) that defines DBT when making the catch.

Even if a catch is made, the play will not be ruled a "catch," but rather "foul" and out of play (assuming the play takes place in foul territory. If the play has taken place in fair territory---that is, at an outfield "wall" marked by chalk or other means---the play will be ruled a homerun).

Another one.

No "catch" will be allowed if the fielder enters with one or both feet any DBT outside the playing field in order to attempt the catch. The play will be ruled "foul" and out of play (assuming it happens in foul territory. If it happens in fair territory, that is, at the outfield fence, the ball will be ruled a homerun).

To me this would mean that if a guy is running and catches it and his momentum then carries him into the stands it would be an out. But a guy like Crisp leaves his feet and establishes contact with the ball while in the air and then falls over it is a homerun. Also, how can you rule it an out. No umpire in his right mind can determine he doesn't drop the ball when he hits the ground on the other side and jumps up like he catches it.

what i found out was that it's an out....as long as the player hasn't established a position outside of the playing field (ex- falls over fence and while laying on the other side catches the ball)....the player diving over the fence must come up and show the umpire he has possession of the ball and the batter will be called out...it's then a dead ball and all base runners can advance one base

Should be an out. Jeter flew into the stands and made the catch and it counted. But that was on a foul, but i assume the rule applys to both.

Jeter caught the ball in *FAIR* territory! It wasn't even a foul ball, let alone in the stands. He dove into the stands 2 or 3 steps after the catch.

Kayotic1,

DBT is not the same as foul territory. DBT is mostly used in non-pro baseball (especially high school) where there are sometimes obstacles such as poles, bleachers, sidewalks, etc.

I used to be an umpire. If Coco had made the catch it would have been an out. If he had fallen or jumped into the bullpen and THEN made the catch, it would be an HR.

George Bell for the Jays easily caught a fly ball in left against the Angels, but his momentum carried him over the fence in left, with his upper body landing in the crowd.

3 fans ripped at the glove and tore the ball out before he landed back on the field.

it was ruled a walk-off home run.

the Jays reaction to the call sure didn't seem to be accepting that this was that easy a call. it seemed that the ump could have made the call for the out, but he wasn't in a position to see that the ball was caught.

and what level of fan interference is "going too far" on a play? say the father and son combo that attacked the first base coach punched a fielder or stabbed him chasing a foul ball?

in reading about the more uncivilized days of player and crowd behaviour in the early 1900s, i'm sure this was an issue once a week.

I never have a problem admitting I am wrong and I guess I am here. Asked a few others and they believe out as well.

I actually think they just changed this rule this year.

It used to be you could pull a superman and fly into the stands or dugout and catch it. I know at least for foul balls now you have to have to have your feet on the field when you catch it or it's foul.

I'm still waiting for the definitive 2007 ruling on the Coco almost catch.

I actually think they just changed this rule this year.

It used to be you could pull a superman and fly into the stands or dugout and catch it. I know at least for foul balls now you have to have to have your feet on the field when you catch it or it's foul.

I'm still waiting for the definitive 2007 ruling on the Coco almost catch.

You're kidding, right? The definitive answer was given days ago. You just chose not to believe it.

6.05
A batter is out when --
(a) His fair or foul fly ball (other than a foul tip) is legally caught by a fielder;
Rule 6.05(a) Comment: A fielder may reach into, but not step into, a dugout to make a catch, and if he holds the ball, the catch shall be allowed. A fielder, in order to make a catch on a foul ball nearing a dugout or other out-of-play area (such as the stands), must have one or both feet on or over the playing surface (including the lip of the dugout) and neither foot on the ground inside the dugout or in any other out-of-play area. Ball is in play, unless the fielder, after making a legal catch, falls into a dugout or other out-of-play area, in which case the ball is dead.

It may say "...foul ball...", but the same rules apply to fair balls at the outfield wall.

A-Rod would've been OUT if Coco had made the catch. His feet were OVER the field when the ball passed by his glove.