View Full Version : One Of The Strangest Edits Yet On HTV
gofyaself 10-19-2007, 12:46 AM I just got through scanning the 10/15 Daily Show "Wheel Of Sex".
As usual it suffers from all the editing complaints so many have touched upon on this board.
One of the porn chicks removes her panties, and yes we got a shot of the pussy but just once or twice and for a fleeting moment. However High Pitch has his cock on full display, perfectly shot, and for extended sequences.
Moreover, as usual, as the bottomless chick is talking to Howard the camera almost never goes in for a pussy shot, yet near the end of the episode the camera cuts several times to close-ups of Sals balls FOR NO REASON . He wasn't even being spoken to and the camera would just cut to his balls.
Why not do that just once with a chick? If she's nude get some close-ups.
But in perhaps one of the most bizarre editing moments yet, scan to the 30 Minute mark of the episode. The porn chick Rachel pulls her pants down and then gives a great bend-over shot as she smacks her ass. ONLY WE NEVER SEE IT.
The camera would not pan down to show it. It remains on a shot of her back and would not move down to show the bend over shot. It finally pans down AFTER she stands up, totally missing the shot. It's almost as if the camera guy fell asleep and woke up too late to get the shot.
Amazingly they had no problem shooting Erik's ass perfectly when he turned around.
Maybe I'm just in a pissy mood but this particular edit seemd REALLY strange.
chas speed 10-19-2007, 01:03 AM HTV's crew are clearly gay. I'm glad I didn't watch more then a few minutes of it. Notice on the first spin of the wheel they get a real close up on the wheel so that you can't see someone's hand stopping the wheel on the High Pitch Eric section.
chibchakan 10-19-2007, 01:12 AM Scott DePace = Closeted Homo
http://www.howardstern.com/dtcms/tsimg/03_83714.jpg
ChrisInCali 10-19-2007, 03:46 PM I really wish they would fire the whole HTV crew, and hire someone with at least some knowledge of what the fans want to see. Fuck Scott Depace.
ShutupMoron 10-19-2007, 04:39 PM The buck stops at Goodstein's desk as the executive producer. I really doubt Depace is the problem.
chas speed 10-19-2007, 05:19 PM The buck stops at Goodstein's desk as the executive producer. I really doubt Depace is the problem. Still, if they fired the whole HTV crew that means Goodstein would be history. I wonder if Howard would prefer HTV going out of business to replacing the staff.
Alex Dragon 10-20-2007, 09:44 AM HTV's crew are clearly gay. I'm glad I didn't watch more then a few minutes of it. Notice on the first spin of the wheel they get a real close up on the wheel so that you can't see someone's hand stopping the wheel on the High Pitch Eric section.
That's nothing new. On the old E! shows there's been several times the audience could see that KC stopped the wheel on what they wanted it to stop on. Part of me understands why they do it but then if they're going to go with the stunt they are prepared to do why even bother with the WHEEL OF SEX part?
Alex Dragon 10-20-2007, 10:02 AM The buck stops at Goodstein's desk as the executive producer. I really doubt Depace is the problem.
DePace is a big part of the problem. He's the director and he's the one who decides what the cameras shoots, moves and zoom in and out on.
People here say that the HTV crew is gay and I kind of laugh it off but really there's no other logical explaination for what they shoot and don't shoot. They seem to be truly fascinated with guy's junk and if possible try to avoid women's privates like the plague.
I keep thinking there must be some sort of rules or guidelines involved that keeps them from filming women's private areas but that doesn't seem to be the case. I watch the HTV episode of the girl who came in to queef and they showed fairly close shots of her vagina blowing out a candle and shooting water from it among other things. I guess there was no way around not showing her vagina so they shot it. But that just shows that they can show all the beaver they want if they wanted to. But it seems that if they don't absolutely have to they just don't want to. But if there's any hint of a chance at showing penis and men's assholes they'll knock themselves out to do it with extreme close-ups and will focus on it waaaaaay too long.
It just defies logic unless you buy into the HTV crew is gay theory. Oh, and that includes Howard too because I can't believe he hasn't seen at least some of this type of thing. The fact that it continues to go on show that he's just fine with it.
ShutupMoron 10-20-2007, 11:15 AM DePace is a big part of the problem. He's the director and he's the one who decides what the cameras shoots, moves and zoom in and out on.
Depace does what Goodstein tells him to do.
skyofcrack 10-20-2007, 01:20 PM Depace does what Goodstein tells him to do.
Goodstein doesn't tell him every shot to cut to. Now, if Doug specifically gave him guidelines as to how to shoot the show that's different. If he says, "don't stay too long on the vagina because it's not as funny as cock and balls" then Doug should be fired.
chas speed 10-20-2007, 01:34 PM Goodstein doesn't tell him every shot to cut to. Now, if Doug specifically gave him guidelines as to how to shoot the show that's different. If he says, "don't stay too long on the vagina because it's not as funny as cock and balls" then Doug should be fired. There is plenty of blame to go around and the solution is simple fire everybody and let God sort them out!
ShutupMoron 10-20-2007, 02:41 PM Goodstein doesn't tell him every shot to cut to. Now, if Doug specifically gave him guidelines as to how to shoot the show that's different. If he says, "don't stay too long on the vagina because it's not as funny as cock and balls" then Doug should be fired.
Goodstein is the executive producer and HMFIC. He is responsible for the quality of lack thereof of the entire HTV production. There have been numerous complaints e-mailed and posted here about the poor editing and overall production of the HTV show segments. It is obvious that what is edited out of the production by stupid cut aways, blocked shots or long distance shots is being done under the direction of Goodstein. It is also obvious that there must be a reason for it but like everything else concerning the production of HTV episodes we'll never know exactly what they are.
Alex Dragon 10-20-2007, 08:37 PM Goodstein is the executive producer and HMFIC. He is responsible for the quality of lack thereof of the entire HTV production. There have been numerous complaints e-mailed and posted here about the poor editing and overall production of the HTV show segments. It is obvious that what is edited out of the production by stupid cut aways, blocked shots or long distance shots is being done under the direction of Goodstein. It is also obvious that there must be a reason for it but like everything else concerning the production of HTV episodes we'll never know exactly what they are.
Well then if that's the case the the obvious answer/reason for the shows turning out like they do is because Doug's an incredibly bad producer. Forget for a second about the annoying amount of penises we're forced to look at and the avoidance of beaver....The jerky cuts from a guest to a shot of Robin drinking a cup of water or Artie not paying attention to what's going on then to another quick cutaway to something else is some of the worst editing/directing I've seen on tv. The conversations in that control room must sound something like this...
"Okay, pan down....down...whoa!!! Don't show her vagina!! Quick cut to Robin...Whoa!! Robin's reading the paper, quick cut to Artie! Whoa!! Artie's eating...quick cut back to the girl...Whoa!! Not her feet, pan up to her face....Whoa!! Coming up on vagina again, cut to Howard! Whoa!! Howard's scratching his armpit again...cut back to a medium shot of the girl...Ah shit, Jason just walked in front of the camera again....
skyofcrack 10-20-2007, 10:19 PM Well then if that's the case the the obvious answer/reason for the shows turning out like they do is because Doug's an incredibly bad producer. Forget for a second about the annoying amount of penises we're forced to look at and the avoidance of beaver....The jerky cuts from a guest to a shot of Robin drinking a cup of water or Artie not paying attention to what's going on then to another quick cutaway to something else is some of the worst editing/directing I've seen on tv. The conversations in that control room must sound something like this...
"Okay, pan down....down...whoa!!! Don't show her vagina!! Quick cut to Robin...Whoa!! Robin's reading the paper, quick cut to Artie! Whoa!! Artie's eating...quick cut back to the girl...Whoa!! Not her feet, pan up to her face....Whoa!! Coming up on vagina again, cut to Howard! Whoa!! Howard's scratching his armpit again...cut back to a medium shot of the girl...Ah shit, Jason just walked in front of the camera again....
That's now how you direct television anyway. There's a selection of monitors showing all the different angles the cameras are viewing and the director previews them and decides which to cut to. I'm not sure how much control the operators of the robotic cameras have as to where they can pan, tilt or zoom to but I'm guessing someone is telling them what to do in an earpiece. When you're cutting on the fly, it's easy to run into problems like having people walk in front of the camera before you can cut away, etc... but the quick cut aways from vagina and cock-a-thon is clearly gay. We're never gonna who makes the call.
Alex Dragon 10-21-2007, 11:57 AM That's now how you direct television anyway. There's a selection of monitors showing all the different angles the cameras are viewing and the director previews them and decides which to cut to. I'm not sure how much control the operators of the robotic cameras have as to where they can pan, tilt or zoom to but I'm guessing someone is telling them what to do in an earpiece. When you're cutting on the fly, it's easy to run into problems like having people walk in front of the camera before you can cut away, etc... but the quick cut aways from vagina and cock-a-thon is clearly gay. We're never gonna who makes the call.
I know how it's done and how it's set up because they've shown pictures of the control room and I've interned at a news station. The dircetor sees whats being shot on every camera and orders the operators which camera to go to and where to move the camera and how close or far to zoom in. All of which makes it even more ridiculous that the director would chose to cut to Robin reading the paper or Howard in the middle of one of his "ticks". It's not like he see a shot of Robin looking at what's going on and then stops to look at her computer screen, they go to Robin looking at her computer screen or in the middle of drinking a cup of water then quickly cut away. In other words she or Artie or Howard is already doing whatever ackward thing when the cut to them.
There choices of what to cut to and when can be fairly bad. Okay, they don't want to show vagina... fair enough but the strange way they avoid it is just so sloppy.
chas speed 10-21-2007, 12:13 PM I know how it's done and how it's set up because they've shown pictures of the control room and I've interned at a news station. The dircetor sees whats being shot on every camera and orders the operators which camera to go to and where to move the camera and how close or far to zoom in. All of which makes it even more ridiculous that the director would chose to cut to Robin reading the paper or Howard in the middle of one of his "ticks". It's not like he see a shot of Robin looking at what's going on and then stops to look at her computer screen, they go to Robin looking at her computer screen or in the middle of drinking a cup of water then quickly cut away. In other words she or Artie or Howard is already doing whatever ackward thing when the cut to them.
There choices of what to cut to and when can be fairly bad. Okay, they don't want to show vagina... fair enough but the strange way they avoid it is just so sloppy. I don't even care if the don't want to show vagina, but there obsession with showing close ups of cocks is fairly disturbing.
Xplorer 10-21-2007, 12:28 PM I agree with the lot of you, extended penis shots are not what we want..
I'm surely not the only one who has been conditioned over the years to expect when the ever elusive bush shot is coming that the camera will either pan away or a hard cut to something else.... That is how TV has always been, but when it comes to a paid service there is no excuse... HTV get your priorities straight.....
Free the puss!
On a side note:
How about every time Sal or Richard come in you just go ahead and put a black box over their offending areas. Even if they are wearing clothes, black box.... Gary has to wear a mask to not distract from the Sybian rides (little lazy lately though) so why should we have to stare at shriveled dick instead of some quality puss.....
TrollZone 10-26-2007, 10:45 AM Since they love fags why not get gay girls working there
Right
chas speed 10-26-2007, 11:22 AM Since they love fags why not get gay girls working there
Right Gay girls don't have cocks, so it's not going to happen.
benjo 10-26-2007, 03:28 PM maybe im crazy but i just saw this episode last night and i clearly remember that chick bending over and you could see EVERYTHING for at least about 5 seconds.....as far as them stopping the wheel,do you really think they would happen to have high pitch on standby if they didnt plan on using him
Xplorer 10-26-2007, 04:00 PM maybe im crazy but i just saw this episode last night and i clearly remember that chick bending over and you could see EVERYTHING for at least about 5 seconds.....
As apposed to the 10 mins of straight cock.....
as far as them stopping the wheel,do you really think they would happen to have high pitch on standby if they didnt plan on using him
Then why even have the wheel, its a waste of time, and an insult to the audience. Just have pretty girls in to do dumb shit....
Simple!
they showed marey careys cunt. her pussy was sloppy haha :p
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