View Full Version : The Stagnation of the SFN DARKSIDE


OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 08:59 PM
Has anyone else noticed the lack of new threads here lately besides the daily listening thread. Is this a reflection of the state of the show? Stern is on vacation and that board is alive. Larry the Cable Guy and Brooke Hogan threads have been the most active. WTF is happening around here?

The Universe
02-21-2008, 09:01 PM
Ever since the entire board went down the Darkside has been slowly grinding to an almost halt.

stumpy67
02-21-2008, 09:14 PM
Things really slowed down in here right as Bubba was about to renew and then the big hack/crash. I for one looked to another board due to all of the Bubba hate on the Stern board. It's not everyone, but it was enough to keep me out. I check back here often because it's still a place to gather and there are good people here.

Spice'sRubber
02-21-2008, 09:29 PM
its called btlsfan.com

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 09:33 PM
its called btlsfan.com

By the looks of it that site is even lamer.

Chob
02-21-2008, 09:36 PM
its called btlsfan.com
I think it's more than that. It seems like a lot of people here seemed really pissed off at Bubba for signing the Cox deal. And for a while every other post was calling him a sell out etc. and it seems like those posters may have bailed on the show.
By the looks of it that site is even lamer.
:(

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 09:43 PM
Maybe some of the regulars decided they didn't like the tone of this board it turned in to a Bubba hate board for a long time

stumpy67
02-21-2008, 09:43 PM
By the looks of it that site is even lamer.

Well I'm not sure what you're looking for out of a board, but there's plenty of discussion during show times.

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 09:46 PM
I don't know BretsBooger. Again I have to compare it to the Stern board where the hate is just as rampant.

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 09:49 PM
Listen Stumpy67 the daily thread is alive here too. I am talking about underlying story lines that warrant their own threads.

stumpy67
02-21-2008, 09:51 PM
Listen Stumpy67 the daily thread is alive here too. I am talking about underlying story lines that warrant their own threads.

I wasn't gettin' in your face or anything, just wondering what you expected out of a board.

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 09:52 PM
I don't know BretsBooger. Again I have to compare it to the Stern board where the hate is just as rampant. But thats a normal thing there people here don't have any interest in the hate if you don't like the show don't listen

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 09:53 PM
Listen Stumpy67 the daily thread is alive here too. I am talking about underlying story lines that warrant their own threads. 120 posts a day is hardly a live daily thread

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 09:53 PM
I know Stumpy but you got to admit this board is not a vibrant as it once was. I am just asking what happened to cause it?

ChuckZitosFist
02-21-2008, 09:54 PM
I think it's more than that. It seems like a lot of people here seemed really pissed off at Bubba for signing the Cox deal. And for a while every other post was calling him a sell out etc. and it seems like those posters may have bailed on the show.

:(

Alot of those posters never listened to the show and are haters from the other side that invaded the darkside with their "mults" to take cheap shots at Bubba.

The SFN hacker killed alot of user accounts.

Chob
02-21-2008, 09:56 PM
The SFN hacker killed alot of user accounts.
My understanding was that all the accounts deaded by the hacker were brought back.

stumpy67
02-21-2008, 10:00 PM
I know Stumpy but you got to admit this board is not a vibrant as it once was. I am just asking what happened to cause it?
No clue man. I was VERY loyal to this board for a long time. I heard of it through the show and that's how I found it. It was the place to be to discuss the show.

I definitely think there were 3 major incidents.
a) Greddy10 hacks Big Dick's account
b) The Bubba Renewal; I got tired of defending why I like BTLS to Stern fans who will never like him. They wanted him and us gone. I hope they enjoy Master Tape theater on Fridays.
c) The big hack where SFN lost their boards

And that stuff is just the short year I've been coming here.

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 10:01 PM
120 posts a day is hardly a live daily thread
I'll give you that BrentsBooger but it just backs up the reality of things

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 10:03 PM
No clue man. I was VERY loyal to this board for a long time. I heard of it through the show and that's how I found it. It was the place to be to discuss the show.

I definitely think there were 3 major incidents.
a) Greddy10 hacks Big Dick's account
b) The Bubba Renewal; I got tired of defending why I like BTLS to Stern fans who will never like him. They wanted him and us gone. I hope they enjoy Master Tape theater on Fridays.
c) The big hack where SFN lost their boards

And that stuff is just the short year I've been coming here. Hell I stayed here when all the marks left for btlsfan but it get old not talking to anyone

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 10:04 PM
I'll give you that BrentsBooger but it just backs up the reality of things to quote the big man cancel christmas kitchens closed the sfn darkside is dead in the water

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 10:05 PM
Alright those might be factors Stumpy but its not a big hassle to create a new account and its not like the "hack" was devastating to the average member

stumpy67
02-21-2008, 10:05 PM
Hey, I go where the discussion is.

If it's here, in a 4 page thread, then great. The bottom line is I just want to shoot the shit with fans. I get tired of going to the other site and listening to Chob talk about his STD's. :D

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 10:06 PM
Hey, I go where the discussion is.

If it's here, in a 4 page thread, then great. The bottom line is I just want to shoot the shit with fans. I get tired of going to the other site and listening to Chob talk about his STD's. :D I think he got those cured

Chob
02-21-2008, 10:07 PM
Hey, I go where the discussion is.

If it's here, in a 4 page thread, then great. The bottom line is I just want to shoot the shit with fans. I get tired of going to the other site and listening to Chob talk about his STD's. :D
WTF? :lol: Lies! Lies I tell you! :D

stumpy67
02-21-2008, 10:11 PM
WTF? :lol: Lies! Lies I tell you! :D
Cheap heat my friend, cheap heat. :D

OneEyedPete
02-21-2008, 10:11 PM
Thats the problem though Stumpy. No body seems to be talking about the show once the show is over. What happened to "we pick up where the show left off" We might have to look at the content of the show. Regardless of the cause Irish or a palooza focused Bubba.

BrentsBooger
02-21-2008, 10:18 PM
Thats the problem though Stumpy. No body seems to be talking about the show once the show is over. What happened to "we pick up where the show left off" We might have to look at the content of the show. Regardless of the cause Irish or a palooza focused Bubba. Thats the SFN idea btlsfan is just a place for marks to shoot the shit

NedsWeed
02-21-2008, 10:28 PM
I have a confession, so Colin Powell it if you must.

I used to be self-employed as my own employee so I could listen to Howard and Bubba all day long, get high, and post here at will. It was fucking great. The show had no corporate censorship, and everything was crazy at a high level.

Now my business is a thing of the past, at work they log web visits so I only visit the site occassionally via iPhone. I was streaming at work, but that has gotten very busy and stressful and something just clicked over inside me around the first of last December where I just wasn't feeling the show anymore. The tone and content almost completely changed and it seemed the guys were struggling from being sat on by the Irish prick in New York.

Now I have to do quick turn around visits every other week to Helsinki, London, Munich, Paris, and Aberdeen (not near as fun as it sounds). I'm very tired and stressed, but making a shit load of bank doing my tiny little area of knowledge, and the actual tone of my life has changed. In less than a year, I've made the chameleon change from a hippie guy who surfed the net, smoked weed, and worked in a warehouse all day to a suit wearing, world traveling business person.

Sorry Bubba and everyone else, but things change and change fast.

tedeso
02-21-2008, 10:45 PM
I like the show but apathy set in when he went backwards to terrestrial old fashioned radio because I felt like we (sirius subscribers) were getting sloppy seconds.

racerx47
02-21-2008, 11:57 PM
No clue man. I was VERY loyal to this board for a long time. I heard of it through the show and that's how I found it. It was the place to be to discuss the show.

I definitely think there were 3 major incidents.
a) Greddy10 hacks Big Dick's account
b) The Bubba Renewal; I got tired of defending why I like BTLS to Stern fans who will never like him. They wanted him and us gone. I hope they enjoy Master Tape theater on Fridays.
c) The big hack where SFN lost their boards

And that stuff is just the short year I've been coming here. My reasons are b and c. I still check back here once a week or so, but it seems that I never missed anything except for a " Is Ned Real Thread " or something bashing Bubba or the show. It was supposed to be a fan site, not a how Howard is better than Bubba site. Its much less, even non existent over there. Sorry to all of ya'll that still think this is a Bubba fan site. I am not sure that any of the mods even care about it much anymore.

zman
02-22-2008, 12:17 AM
You know what my thoughts are. I am a big fan of Bubba, tune in everyday.

But, since January I have found myself wandering off the channel within the 1st hour. I know about corporate problems but, I don't think they have recovered from that.

You either gotta be really good or really bad, and right now they just seem average.

Heatherwiz
02-22-2008, 04:12 AM
I have a confession, so Colin Powell it if you must.

I used to be self-employed as my own employee so I could listen to Howard and Bubba all day long, get high, and post here at will. It was fucking great. The show had no corporate censorship, and everything was crazy at a high level.

Now my business is a thing of the past, at work they log web visits so I only visit the site occassionally via iPhone. I was streaming at work, but that has gotten very busy and stressful and something just clicked over inside me around the first of last December where I just wasn't feeling the show anymore. The tone and content almost completely changed and it seemed the guys were struggling from being sat on by the Irish prick in New York.

Now I have to do quick turn around visits every other week to Helsinki, London, Munich, Paris, and Aberdeen (not near as fun as it sounds). I'm very tired and stressed, but making a shit load of bank doing my tiny little area of knowledge, and the actual tone of my life has changed. In less than a year, I've made the chameleon change from a hippie guy who surfed the net, smoked weed, and worked in a warehouse all day to a suit wearing, world traveling business person.

Sorry Bubba and everyone else, but things change and change fast.

Congrats on the new job. I got a promotion, my job doubled, my direct reports doubled and my stress tripled. Aint it fun growing up :)

madhi19
02-22-2008, 04:55 AM
The drop of post could be atributed to the 8 freaking hours of Bubba the maniac among us are listening every days. I for one also have to work and have a life add another radio show that I follow and i just don't have the time to visit the Darkside all that much. Hell I barely watch TV anymore am close to make a radio overdose. I got a feeling that some of the worst case of Bubba addict have OD by now and they have joined Bubba anonymous.

JKGroups
02-22-2008, 06:27 AM
I am not as big of a BTLS fan as some but I like the board more lately. There seems to be more genuine discussion & less haters vs marks
I also really enjoyed the show this week

gqman123
02-22-2008, 08:05 AM
I agree, I start random threads, then go back to my drawing, I check again at lunch (about 3 hours) and maybe 2 views. I still think the show is great, maybe some people are pissed about the cox deal. I think most of the Ned threads just breed hate, people arguing amongst themselves. I for 1 never read the Bubba bashing threads but some people just never give up. Most of the haters are newly registered members I noticed.

NedsWeed
02-22-2008, 08:11 AM
Congrats on the new job. I got a promotion, my job doubled, my direct reports doubled and my stress tripled. Aint it fun growing up :)

Sure iz, Wiz. I'm growing up late, though. ;)

BrentsBooger
02-22-2008, 08:26 AM
I am not sure that any of the mods even care about it much anymore. I agree with most of what you said but this part is total BS you still have Wiz and Miller as mods over the dark side and they care for sure.

BrentsBooger
02-22-2008, 08:28 AM
I am not as big of a BTLS fan as some but I like the board more lately. There seems to be more genuine discussion & less haters vs marks
I also really enjoyed the show this week Give it some time you'll get a bit of shit at first from one angry fuck from michigan who thinks he's the official n00b detector but other then that mos tpeople are welcomed and allowed to join right in. Jump in with both feet start posting you'll fit in fine

gqman123
02-22-2008, 08:36 AM
Just out of curiosity, I wonder if some of the haters are local to Bubba because he is back on the radio. My brother lives in Jacksonville and when I mentioned Bubba last year at Christmas he brought up the pig bit from years ago. It seems in Florida they made it public when he and the boys were accussed but didn't publicize his innocence as much as they did the negative. I think I convinced him to listen, but that's what SOME people still think in Florida.

mcbutton1970
02-22-2008, 08:37 AM
My reasons are b and c. I still check back here once a week or so, but it seems that I never missed anything except for a " Is Ned Real Thread " or something bashing Bubba or the show. It was supposed to be a fan site, not a how Howard is better than Bubba site. Its much less, even non existent over there. Sorry to all of ya'll that still think this is a Bubba fan site. I am not sure that any of the mods even care about it much anymore.
Miller and Wizzie definitely give a shit ... based on what I know, Miller's one of the reasons that there even is an SFN Darkside in the first place ... things happen over time, people get pissed off for one reason or another, and people either move on or move out ... for a time, it seemed that all the hate threads started migrating over here, whether they were started here or somewhere on the light side ... the big site hack seemed to be the nail in the coffin for many folks who wanted to shoot the shit about the show and life in general with other fans of the show and couldn't do it here ... as Doctor Ivan has pointed out (sorry, I know he'd prefer just being called Ivan), there's plenty of fan board space for everyone ...

mcbutton1970
02-22-2008, 08:41 AM
Just out of curiosity, I wonder if some of the haters are local to Bubba because he is back on the radio. My brother lives in Jacksonville and when I mentioned Bubba last year at Christmas he brought up the pig bit from years ago. It seems in Florida they made it public when he and the boys were accussed but didn't publicize his innocence as much as they did the negative. I think I convinced him to listen, but that's what SOME people still think in Florida.
That was an event that was totally overplayed and blown out of proportion by the media spin doctors ... but when it only takes a jury of their peers twenty minutes to deliberate a "not guilty" verdict on all charges, there must've been a pretty good reason for it ... if only these same narrow-minded people had any clue as to how they get the meat that's on their dinner plates ...

JKGroups
02-22-2008, 08:46 AM
Give it some time you'll get a bit of shit at first from one angry fuck from michigan who thinks he's the official n00b detector but other then that mos tpeople are welcomed and allowed to join right in. Jump in with both feet start posting you'll fit in fine

I have about 5 years of SFN on you BB ... thanks for the welcoming lol

;)

OneEyedPete
02-22-2008, 08:57 AM
Whiz what say you on this topic.

Chob
02-22-2008, 09:23 AM
I have about 5 years of SFN on you BB ... thanks for the welcoming lol

;)
I don't think he meant SFN. :hhh:

Chob
02-22-2008, 09:25 AM
That was an event that was totally overplayed and blown out of proportion by the media spin doctors ... but when it only takes a jury of their peers twenty minutes to deliberate a "not guilty" verdict on all charges, there must've been a pretty good reason for it ... if only these same narrow-minded people had any clue as to how they get the meat that's on their dinner plates ...
That's how most people know about Bubba. Although they tend to not know the full story. A lot of people seem to think he just some sick guy who kills animals for fun. Nor do they realize he had gotten the proper permit and had not done anything illegal.

Rickles
02-22-2008, 10:27 AM
a few months back when things were still hopping around here, i tried for the first time to participate in the listening thread. while i'm certain my posts weren't amazing (and I think the first was a profession of love for whiz which may have turned people off), i did contribute one or two useful posts and didn't receive any response.

after that i assumed the listening thread crew was tight knit and not interested in new participants so i never went back.

BrentsBooger
02-22-2008, 10:30 AM
I have about 5 years of SFN on you BB ... thanks for the welcoming lol

;)

I don't think he meant SFN. :hhh:

Your right you do have me in time on SFN but Chobs right I wasn't talking about here

BrentsBooger
02-22-2008, 10:31 AM
a few months back when things were still hopping around here, i tried for the first time to participate in the listening thread. while i'm certain my posts weren't amazing (and I think the first was a profession of love for whiz which may have turned people off), i did contribute one or two useful posts and didn't receive any response.

after that i assumed the listening thread crew was tight knit and not interested in new participants so i never went back. Markin out to wiz won't get you heat with anyone trust me ;)

Chob
02-22-2008, 10:37 AM
after that i assumed the listening thread crew was tight knit and not interested in new participants so i never went back.
I've heard that in the past but I'm not sure how people get that impression. If someone who isn't a regular comes in to trash Bubba or just seems to be making generally negative comments about the show they'll get ripped apart, and the Howard thread seems to be the same way.

I'm always glad to see new Bubba fans posting on any board. And I think anyone should feel welcome to post anywhere they feel like posting unless they start acting like an asshole.

Getting back to my earlier point, this blog mentions people saying they've stopped listening to Bubba.
http://siriusbuzz.com/caller-takes-bubba-to-taskand-shes-right.php
But people are always going to complain about the shows not being as good as they once were. Especially since Bubba has been allowed to do less and less on Sirius. People have been making the same complaints about Howard's show not being as good. Maybe the novelty of Sirius is wearing off, or people are finding other programming they enjoy. I don't know.

mcbutton1970
02-22-2008, 10:39 AM
a few months back when things were still hopping around here, i tried for the first time to participate in the listening thread. while i'm certain my posts weren't amazing (and I think the first was a profession of love for whiz which may have turned people off), i did contribute one or two useful posts and didn't receive any response.

after that i assumed the listening thread crew was tight knit and not interested in new participants so i never went back.
There's very little remnants of any tight-knit core group these days ... nine months ago, it wouldn't have been out of the ordinary to have over 2000 posts in the daily thread ... even six months ago, you'd still manage to get 500-1000 posts in the daily ... but with various events having taken place (particularly the hack job), the vast majority of posters have expanded their posting horizons beyond SFN ... to the hardcore Stern fans, this part of the site is the bastard child that no one wants to recognize ... it's rather tragic because I would never have found Bubba without first tuning in to Howard on January 9, 2006 ... I just never became one of those brainwashed sheep that still live in a closed world that revolves solely around Howard ...

Heatherwiz
02-22-2008, 10:51 AM
a few months back when things were still hopping around here, i tried for the first time to participate in the listening thread. while i'm certain my posts weren't amazing (and I think the first was a profession of love for whiz which may have turned people off), i did contribute one or two useful posts and didn't receive any response.

after that i assumed the listening thread crew was tight knit and not interested in new participants so i never went back.

Welcome to the Darkside. Sorry you didn't get your cookie when you joined. Seriously, I am not being sarcastic, they used to hand out cookies around here it was so friendly :)

Things have changed a lot. But fans are always welcome. We all love Bubba and the show here. So I guess at the end of the day I miss having a huge crew of peeps to hang with, but there are still people to shoot the shit about the show with so..

Now proceed to tell me how cute you think I am... (TOTALLY KIDDING)

Rickles
02-22-2008, 10:55 AM
I've heard that in the past but I'm not sure how people get that impression.

alright, this is real boring and all, but maybe it will give some insight into why potential new members may be intimidated trying to become a regular darksider:

my first effort at posting in the listening thread:
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=10410054#post10410054

i posted three times in this thread, the first being an awkward attempt at getting wiz's attention, the second an apology for the first, and the third a packers link i found funny. i didn't get a single welcome, comment, or reply.

two days later i tried again:
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=10437339#post10437339

and again i was ignored.

those efforts basically made me feel like i wasn't welcome here, so i left.

Rickles
02-22-2008, 10:59 AM
Welcome to the Darkside. Sorry you didn't get your cookie when you joined. Seriously, I am not being sarcastic, they used to hand out cookies around here it was so friendly :)

Things have changed a lot. But fans are always welcome. We all love Bubba and the show here. So I guess at the end of the day I miss having a huge crew of peeps to hang with, but there are still people to shoot the shit about the show with so..

Now proceed to tell me how cute you think I am... (TOTALLY KIDDING)

thanks. i'm not bitching or anything, just trying to give an outsider's view.

and you're hot.

asiwouldsay
02-22-2008, 11:04 AM
I've been enjoying BTLS show this week, in Howard's absence and my job requiring me to do some driving.

Heatherwiz
02-22-2008, 11:09 AM
thanks. i'm not bitching or anything, just trying to give an outsider's view.

and you're hot.

Well looking back at the links you posted I guess I can see your point of view. In my defense I can say that I was distracted by Raven in the first thread and didn't even see your second one or I would have responded and I was even posting in the second one.

Sorry.

We have been trying hard to welcome the new marks, esp since a metric fuckton of the hard core peeps from here post somewhere else now :(

BrentsBooger
02-22-2008, 02:13 PM
Well looking back at the links you posted I guess I can see your point of view. In my defense I can say that I was distracted by Raven in the first thread and didn't even see your second one or I would have responded and I was even posting in the second one.

Sorry.

We have been trying hard to welcome the new marks, esp since a metric fuckton of the hard core peeps from here post somewhere else now :( Wow A metric fuckton I know some of us are big but did you have to play the fat card? :(

The Butler
02-22-2008, 04:15 PM
Wow A metric fuckton I know some of us are big but did you have to play the fat card? :(

"That's a fat, fucking Phoenix." :jj:

racerx47
02-22-2008, 04:58 PM
I agree with most of what you said but this part is total BS you still have Wiz and Miller as mods over the dark side and they care for sure. Maybe, I should rephrase that statement. It may be that they think its to the point of no return. I am not saying that they are not doing their job. I know how hard it would be that this site was just deserted, and how to get it going again. Message boards are like nightclubs, its much cooler to be at the newest spot. I am one of those guys that has to be doing the fresh activites......thats just the way I roll. LOL

JustRob
02-22-2008, 05:23 PM
Its pretty simple for me...I went over to BTLSFAN in the beginning...then didn't have the time to post enough to lock into the group over there...now I just go there to play the arcade games.

I don't come here as much..I usually go and watch the craziness play out int he Lounge...

I don't even listen to the show as much...I find myself listening to Convino and Rich on Maxim 108 more...

gqman123
02-22-2008, 05:26 PM
That's how most people know about Bubba. Although they tend to not know the full story. A lot of people seem to think he just some sick guy who kills animals for fun. Nor do they realize he had gotten the proper permit and had not done anything illegal.

Exactly, that's what I was saying Chob, my brother in Jacksonville and his friends, mid 20's crowd, only heard the negative, he didn't know half the story, it was all word of mouth.

lghtspeed
02-22-2008, 05:44 PM
My feelings why this forum is dieing is that more and more people are realizing that bubba will not be on sat much longer his show is sucking lately. It is becoming clearer and clearer and it will be unlikely he will be here past summer. On his morning show today they did guitar hero shock collar. All we get anymore is BLAH BLAH BLAH and here him slip in "wont be here much longer's" all the time. I myself blame the assholes in corp that have restricted him and i do not know why the bubba army has not been set into motion.

BloodStaind
02-22-2008, 05:54 PM
I still love Bubba. He is doin the best he can with what corporate will let him do. Hey Whiz I am new where is my cookie? :D

The Butler
02-23-2008, 09:38 AM
I still love Bubba. He is doin the best he can with what corporate will let him do. Hey Whiz I am new where is my cookie? :D

Right here.

BrentsBooger
02-23-2008, 10:09 AM
Right here.

I still love Bubba. He is doin the best he can with what corporate will let him do. Hey Whiz I am new where is my cookie? :D

Butler gave you the cookie but at the other place I'll make sure you topless pics of a MOD.






















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