View Full Version : Listen To Howard on Your Mac, and Soon iPhone
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 08:41 AM SiriusWM5 for Windows Mobile phones has been available for some time now at GeeksToolBox allowing you to listen to Howard, Bubba, and all of Sirius's great conten on your Windows mobile phone.
I am happy to announce we have recently formed a partnership with NiceMac LLC, the creator of StarPlayr. StarPlayr (http://www.starplayr.com) is the streaming solution for listening to Sirius Satellite Radio on your Mac.
We are planning many more clients including Linux and other mobile phone platforms such as BlackBerry, Nokia and Motorola. This is all part of the StreamSmart project at GeeksToolbox.
Please see the announcement below:
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I am happy to announce that GeeksToolBox (http://forums.geekstoolbox.com) and NiceMac LLC (http://www.nicemac.com) are partnering as peers to provide the best Sirius Player for the Apple/Mac platform.
StarPlayr (http://www.starplayr.com) is the player of choice for Macs, and will soon be powered by StreamSmart.
NiceMac LLC's StarPlayr is currently #6 on Apple's site as one of the most favored Audio applications for Mac, as well as an Apple staff pick.
This is due to the rich functionality and well executed design by GoodTime, StarPlayr's developer.
Many of these features will find it's way into the Windows PC client for StreamSmart. The Windows PC client will be a collaborative effort between GeeksToolBox (http://forums.geekstoolbox.com) and NiceMac LLC (http://www.nicemac.com) .
Since NiceMac LLC (http://www.nicemac.com) is a partner and separate entity, our donation systems are separate as well.
Please remember if you choose to doante, please donate via NiceMac.com if you find StarPlayr useful, and via GeeksToolBox.com for StreamSmart clients and SiriusWM5.
Donations are not required, and the software is, of course, free.
http://www.starplayr.com/nicemac.png
PerpWalk 02-28-2008, 08:48 AM Very cool!
FunBagS11 02-28-2008, 08:54 AM Kool! Can you get it to work on my blackberry already?! =(
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 09:01 AM Kool! Can you get it to work on my blackberry already?! =(
Not yet, but Soon! Believe it or not, that is the most frequent request (BlackBerry support.)
TheNacho 02-28-2008, 09:10 AM Im going to be greedy here . . . .any thought to something for the Palm OS?
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I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!
artsyguy 02-28-2008, 09:12 AM Don't own a touch phone BUT I LOVE my StarPlayr on my 24" iMac! It rocks! The best piece of software I've loaded in a very long time on to my Mac. The interface is a bit quirky and I still haven't figured out how (or if I can) record music and place it in iTunes library, but the performance has been outstanding with no looping, no signing in, and no timing out.
Great Job! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
FunBagS11 02-28-2008, 09:20 AM Thanx BitSlap =)) I cant wait that! Push for that to happen VERY SOON! =))
mastermix 02-28-2008, 09:21 AM StarPlayr ROCKS... been with these guys since the early SiriusMac. :bigup:
Looking forward to an iPhone app... :pray:
Jack the Hammer 02-28-2008, 09:24 AM I already do listen to Sirius on my iPhone! iSirius and Orb, fucking great! ;)
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 09:27 AM [B]Im going to be greedy here . . . .any thought to something for the Palm OS?
Yes.
It looks like the Palm solution will need a combination of CorePlayer (not made by us and not free) and our web based service currently under development (StreamSmart... free of course.)
We are coding the back-end service right now, but once that is done, the web clients should come very quickly.
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 09:29 AM I already do listen to Sirius on my iPhone! iSirius and Orb, fucking great! ;)
You are correct... the Orb solution works. The reason we are working on an iPhone solution even though there is a working solution now is that our solution will be self sufficient. There will be no need to have a PC or Mac running somewhere to get the stream to your phone.
For some people it's not a big deal, but I personally like the self contained solutions :)
bluebronco 02-28-2008, 09:36 AM I already use StarPlayer. Is there going to be a pause feature soon? (Longer than 2 min)
SternFan100 02-28-2008, 09:38 AM Great work again. Whats the timeframe on a Linux version?
It would actually be very nice to listen to it on my iPod touch.
maynardjk 02-28-2008, 09:44 AM You are correct... the Orb solution works. The reason we are working on an iPhone solution even though there is a working solution now is that our solution will be self sufficient. There will be no need to have a PC or Mac running somewhere to get the stream to your phone.
For some people it's not a big deal, but I personally like the self contained solutions :)
THANK YOU!! I do not like the Orb solution, and the only thing I really miss on my Iphone is your windows mobile version that I used almost daily to listen to Howard.
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 09:47 AM Great work again. Whats the timeframe on a Linux version?
I don't have a specific timeframe yet... I have begun design however. I will try to keep you updated as much as possible.
In addition to all of the BlackBerry version requests, Linux is probably #2.
The native client will obviously take longer than the web based version. CorePlayer will be out for Linux soon as well which will give us a nice Windows Media capable player to work with.
I assume a web based version would hold you over though, right?
TheNacho 02-28-2008, 09:48 AM Yes.
It looks like the Palm solution will need a combination of CorePlayer (not made by us and not free) and our web based service currently under development (StreamSmart... free of course.)
We are coding the back-end service right now, but once that is done, the web clients should come very quickly.
AWESOME! Consider me abosolutely STOKED!!!!
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I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!
maloof 02-28-2008, 09:52 AM Sticky this thread immediately!
I don't have a specific timeframe yet... I have begun design however. I will try to keep you updated as much as possible.
In addition to all of the BlackBerry version requests, Linux is probably #2.
The native client will obviously take longer than the web based version. CorePlayer will be out for Linux soon as well which will give us a nice Windows Media capable player to work with.
I assume a web based version would hold you over though, right?
Bitslap, you are the MAN!
I plug your software any chance I get.
Is there any chance to add the News channels to the menu if you pay for the service?
Right now, channels like CNN and BBC aren't available on Sirius WM5.
Thanks Bro. Incidentally, the TCPMP player for Treo's is awesome.
BenjyIsDisturbing 02-28-2008, 10:04 AM I've been using StarPlayr for while now and I love it. I would highly recommend it. Thanks for the build.
stumpy67 02-28-2008, 10:06 AM :bigclap:
Starplayr is the best audio app I've seen in a while. Great job and I can't wait for it to be ported to the iPod Touch.
OlBlueHair 02-28-2008, 10:09 AM Thank you so much for all of your hard work.
mooby 02-28-2008, 10:11 AM an idea for new program:
a program that will take the clothes off of a chick you give it a picture of.
airforceguy 02-28-2008, 10:12 AM wish i was a little more tech savy. I'm still hoping sirius will pipe the show straight into my head before howard's contract ends.
mastermix 02-28-2008, 10:15 AM You are correct... the Orb solution works. The reason we are working on an iPhone solution even though there is a working solution now is that our solution will be self sufficient. There will be no need to have a PC or Mac running somewhere to get the stream to your phone.
For some people it's not a big deal, but I personally like the self contained solutions :)
That's what I'm looking for... I assume this app will be created using the iPhone SDK? Or will it require a jailbroken iPhone?
In any case great to see developers working on this...
SternFan100 02-28-2008, 10:19 AM I don't have a specific timeframe yet... I have begun design however. I will try to keep you updated as much as possible.
In addition to all of the BlackBerry version requests, Linux is probably #2.
The native client will obviously take longer than the web based version. CorePlayer will be out for Linux soon as well which will give us a nice Windows Media capable player to work with.
I assume a web based version would hold you over though, right?
Anything works but a native client would be preferred. I only use it on the rare occasion that my antenna signal dies but its just nice to have the option. :btu:
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 10:24 AM Bitslap, you are the MAN!
I plug your software any chance I get.
Is there any chance to add the News channels to the menu if you pay for the service?
Right now, channels like CNN and BBC aren't available on Sirius WM5.
Thanks Bro. Incidentally, the TCPMP player for Treo's is awesome.
The latest version automatically updates the channel list as I update it. 142 and 132 are both available in the latest channel list.
132 | CNN
catnews
CNN
cnn
140 | World Radio Network
catnews
World Radio Network
wrn
141 | BBC World Service News
catnews
BBC World Service News
bbcworld
Make sure You have the latest version of SiriusWM5 installed :)
I need to play with the latest CorePlayer.. everyone says it is great.
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 10:27 AM That's what I'm looking for... I assume this app will be created using the iPhone SDK? Or will it require a jailbroken iPhone?
In any case great to see developers working on this...
It will use the SDK so that both iPhone and iPod Touch users can use it without fear of hosing their device.
The Skratch 02-28-2008, 10:32 AM Finally us MAC Users are included. By being able to listen on your iphone might make the Stiletto null and void
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 10:45 AM Finally us MAC Users are included. By being able to listen on your iphone might make the Stiletto null and void
:)
I write my Windows Programs on a MacBook Pro under VMWare Fusion (used to use Paralells.)
Here's my goal: Any device with an internet connection can listen to Sirius Radio.
I think Internet Radio was a great idea... the problem was it sucked. Nobody made it cool or neat, and nobody provided content worth a crap.
Sirius, and XM to an extent, have changed that. Internet Satellite Radio is awesome, and works well. I think this is the answer to a lot of things.
1) Sirius can stop subsidizing large quantities of receiver hardware. Big money savings.
2) The internet reaches places the satellite signals can't.
3) "Receivers" can be designed to use cellular/WiFi/Hardwired data networks cheaper than the ones that use satellite technology.
4) You don't have to spend Billions to replace/add satellites.
The technology is finally here to make internet radio a viable content delivery method, and Sirius and Howard are making/can make it cool and not suck. I'm trying to prove this is the path to the future of radio by providing quality software for free that makes my goal a reality.
KingBoca 02-28-2008, 10:52 AM THANKS!!!!!
RingofFire 02-28-2008, 10:54 AM :beer:
Great news for my macbook!
mastermix 02-28-2008, 11:03 AM It will use the SDK so that both iPhone and iPod Touch users can use it without fear of hosing their device.
:bigup: :bigup: :bigup:
DAWSOME!!! Thanks for your hard work. :bow: :wireless: :tunes:
oscarf 02-28-2008, 11:16 AM StarPlayr ROCKS... been with these guys since the early SiriusMac.
That's two separate products, right? I have SiriusMac2 on my laptop and I like that just fine, but I'll try StarPlayr right now ...
Hmmm, gonna take a little getting used to ... not sure which I like better ...
mastermix 02-28-2008, 11:23 AM That's two separate products, right? I have SiriusMac2 on my laptop and I like that just fine, but I'll try StarPlayr right now ...
Hmmm, gonna take a little getting used to ... not sure which I like better ...
Yep.
I was using SiriusMac2 but moved to StarPlayr after it came out of beta. Seems to work a bit better than the older apps...
57PaulCustom 02-28-2008, 11:26 AM I am upgrading my old blackberry. I was thinking of the Verizon voyager over the iphone. It has TV and web service. Any hope for for verizon?
taller0119 02-28-2008, 11:34 AM thanks dudes! i just got a wing at the turn of the year and i'm so jacked that i can use it to listen to sirius!
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 11:41 AM I am upgrading my old blackberry. I was thinking of the Verizon voyager over the iphone. It has TV and web service. Any hope for for verizon?
If that phone can decode Windows Media streams, or if you can load a player that will onto it, then yes. I'm not familiar with the voyager.
If your device can play this link:
mms://netshow.microsoft.com/ms/sbnasfs/wmt/turtle28.asf/
then there is hope.
steve7968 02-28-2008, 12:12 PM nice.. i started thread about this in lounge when i first found goodtimes program for mac.. .updated to include new pc version being worked on (need mod to help edit the title thread though- won't work) :(
http://www.SternFanNetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=326009
goodtime is good people :bigup:
steve7968 02-28-2008, 12:20 PM That's two separate products, right? I have SiriusMac2 on my laptop and I like that just fine, but I'll try StarPlayr right now ...
Hmmm, gonna take a little getting used to ... not sure which I like better ...
you're gonna like it.. and it has a built in recorder!! sends right to itunes for you (see my above post- i started a thread about this in the lounge awhile back)
sgtdeath187 02-28-2008, 12:22 PM nicey nice
RetardoMontlban 02-28-2008, 12:33 PM Not yet, but Soon! Believe it or not, that is the most frequent request (BlackBerry support.)
how about a podcast type thing, that people would pay per download or a monthly fee? PLEASE!!!?
oscarf 02-28-2008, 12:35 PM you're gonna like it.. and it has a built in recorder!! sends right to itunes for you
Yeah, I saw that. Looks very cool. So far, so good!
MrJeff2000 02-28-2008, 01:06 PM :)
I write my Windows Programs on a MacBook Pro under VMWare Fusion (used to use Paralells.)
Here's my goal: Any device with an internet connection can listen to Sirius Radio.
I think Internet Radio was a great idea... the problem was it sucked. Nobody made it cool or neat, and nobody provided content worth a crap.
Sirius, and XM to an extent, have changed that. Internet Satellite Radio is awesome, and works well. I think this is the answer to a lot of things.
1) Sirius can stop subsidizing large quantities of receiver hardware. Big money savings.
2) The internet reaches places the satellite signals can't.
3) "Receivers" can be designed to use cellular/WiFi/Hardwired data networks cheaper than the ones that use satellite technology.
4) You don't have to spend Billions to replace/add satellites.
The technology is finally here to make internet radio a viable content delivery method, and Sirius and Howard are making/can make it cool and not suck. I'm trying to prove this is the path to the future of radio by providing quality software for free that makes my goal a reality.
True dat.
I use StarPlayr for playing audio - and the Yahoo Sirius Widget for audio for recording.
Goodtime is closing the gap quickly with StarPlayr though.
MrJeff2000 02-28-2008, 01:08 PM Yep.
I was using SiriusMac2 but moved to StarPlayr after it came out of beta. Seems to work a bit better than the older apps...
StarPlayr eliminates the need to enter the capcha code for login to Sirius.com.
Does SiriusMac2 do the same thing?
MrJeff2000 02-28-2008, 01:09 PM how about a podcast type thing, that people would pay per download or a monthly fee? PLEASE!!!?
Record the show with StarPlayr and listen on a delay.
Create your own podcast.
OneOfTheHive 02-28-2008, 01:09 PM I can't even tell you how much I love love love this app. Thank you so much for it!!!! Can't wait to possibly have it available on my Blackberry Pearl.
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
BTW... the newest version is AWESOME!
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 01:17 PM how about a podcast type thing, that people would pay per download or a monthly fee? PLEASE!!!?
Well... personally i would love that too :)
The problem is that the only people who can sell it are the people who own it and that is Sirius.
The only thing we can do is make these suggestions to Sirius themselves in hopes that they see the value and move in that direction.
Hugomarink 02-28-2008, 01:21 PM bitslap, do you know what is the most inexpensive Sprint phone that can stream SIRIUS? I want to listen to Ferrall when I'm at the gym in the evenings. Of course my Stiletto gets no reception at the gym.
bitslap47 02-28-2008, 01:30 PM bitslap, do you know what is the most inexpensive Sprint phone that can stream SIRIUS? I want to listen to Ferrall when I'm at the gym in the evenings. Of course my Stiletto gets no reception at the gym.
Right now the Moto Q ($179 out of pocket then a mail in for $100)
If you can find a refurbished or used PPC6700 they work well too. Some stores may still have them.
Hugomarink 02-28-2008, 01:31 PM Right now the Moto Q ($179 out of pocket then a mail in for $100)
If you can find a refurbished or used PPC6700 they work well too. Some stores may still have them.
Thanks! I appreciate it.
goodtime 02-28-2008, 06:15 PM I can't even tell you how much I love love love this app. Thank you so much for it!!!! Can't wait to possibly have it available on my Blackberry Pearl.
Thank you thank you thank you!!!!!
BTW... the newest version is AWESOME!
Thank you. The next version will be even better.
HeinousMark 02-28-2008, 06:47 PM Hate to sound spammy, but the Starplayer has been working pretty good for me, for over a month. MUCH better than the actual Sirius online listening link, and without the hassle of signing in EVERY time and then going through a redundant menu to hear the show. Plus the ability to make it an MP3, and it's free... Me Likey :thumbsup:
I'm lovin that you guys are making headway on a PC version of StarPlayr's new namesake.
Internet radio is the way to go! I say that after investing hundreds into radio/antenna equipment that still can't pull more than a crap satellite signal.
Thanks, AppleGuys! "SIGNAL ALMOST AQUIRED!" Here's to the new collaboration! :beer:
LINK TO SFN's Other StarPlayr Thread (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=11697532#post11697532)
Mister69 02-29-2008, 12:16 AM The LG voyager is better than the iphone.
mastermix 02-29-2008, 07:17 AM The LG voyager is better than the iphone.
:rolleyes:
goodtime 02-29-2008, 07:39 AM The LG voyager is better than the iphone.
How is the voyager better than an iPhone?
goodtime 02-29-2008, 07:43 AM I already use StarPlayer. Is there going to be a pause feature soon? (Longer than 2 min)
1.7.7 can pause longer than two minutes. You just need to increase your cache using the StarPlayr preferences.
Try setting it to 16000-32000k
gt :-)
goodtime 02-29-2008, 07:52 AM StarPlayr eliminates the need to enter the capcha code for login to Sirius.com.
Does SiriusMac2 do the same thing?
StarPlayr does automate the Captcha process. SiriusMac2 does not (as far as I know, I have not tried their latest beta).
StarPlayr is still evolving. I have about 6 more things planned for it that will be rolled out over the next two years.
goodtime 02-29-2008, 07:58 AM Hate to sound spammy, but the Starplayer has been working pretty good for me, for over a month. MUCH better than the actual Sirius online listening link, and without the hassle of signing in EVERY time and then going through a redundant menu to hear the show. Plus the ability to make it an MP3, and it's free... Me Likey :thumbsup:
Thank you. I have about 3 bug reports to correct in 1.7.8. A few users are having an issue with the MP3 files that StarPlayr produces which 1.7.8 will try to address using CBR inplace of VBR. For some reason iTunes and iPods are not fully compatible with Variable Bitrate Files (there is a timing issue at the end of the track).
Also some users are having a problem with the MP3 files not converting all that way.
Note: If anyone does have this issue in 1.7.7. A temporary workaround is to turn off the MP3 conversion and use a program called "Switch" which is available on Apple.com's Downloads.
My testing with 1.7.8 seems to not have these issues described above using CBR (Constant Bitrate) for the conversion process.
gt :-)
BigWillie 02-29-2008, 08:28 AM I hope the interface is easier to navigate than Star Playr - the Safari win4mac Sirius online player works better for me
bitslap47 02-29-2008, 08:52 AM I hope the interface is easier to navigate than Star Playr - the Safari win4mac Sirius online player works better for me
What in particular wold you like to see different about the interface?
goodtime 02-29-2008, 09:49 AM What in particular wold you like to see different about the interface?
I am interested seeing what improvement users would like to see in the UI too.
Some people at Apple love the UI, while some critics say the UI is clunky. I like it, but I am open to suggestions. The goal was to make something different, but some users might think it is too different. This is my first Player UI, so I think future flavors of StarPlayr will be better.
StarPlayr started out as an experiment after departing SiriusMac. The test was to see if one person could program, design, create all the graphics and most of all make it work. Since it is not a collaboration, my only input is from users and beta testers.
Many things have changed from the first beta back in December and I expect the platform will continue to grow and evolve. I am working on a few versions from scratch to try to address the UI issue. And there will be updates to the existing UI to try to make it better.
gt :-)
BETHS BITCH 02-29-2008, 06:13 PM OUT-FUCKING-STANDING :)
BETHS BITCH 02-29-2008, 06:20 PM how long can you pause it for and can you search thru the pause and/or flip over commercials ?
steve7968 02-29-2008, 06:36 PM I am interested seeing what improvement users would like to see in the UI too.
Some people at Apple love the UI, while some critics say the UI is clunky. I like it, but I am open to suggestions. The goal was to make something different, but some users might think it is too different. This is my first Player UI, so I think future flavors of StarPlayr will be better.
StarPlayr started out as an experiment after departing SiriusMac. The test was to see if one person could program, design, create all the graphics and most of all make it work. Since it is not a collaboration, my only input is from users and beta testers.
Many things have changed from the first beta back in December and I expect the platform will continue to grow and evolve. I am working on a few versions from scratch to try to address the UI issue. And there will be updates to the existing UI to try to make it better.
gt :-)
the interface is very easy to use IMO
i like the new "lock" feature on presets... thats about it.... just add in the rewind/dvr deal (think you said in the works) and much else to improve upon
NYGiants 02-29-2008, 07:42 PM I use Starplayr and I can confirm that it works great!
goodtime 02-29-2008, 09:27 PM how long can you pause it for and can you search thru the pause and/or flip over commercials ?
Use the Paws button. To pause for a long time, use a 32000k or larger cache (see the StarPlayr Preferences, Desktop -> Preferences).
Right now you can only flip through commercials in recordings via iTunes or an iPod. The streams are live right now, but DVR-like functionality is in the works with pause, rewind and fast forward.
To pause for 12-24 hours, use a 232000k cache.
goodtime 02-29-2008, 09:32 PM Do you have Mac? Do you want better scheduled recordings? Are you an Audio-Hijack Pro user? Introducing StarScript™. The faceless automated scripting tool for Sirius Radio. Requires Mac OS X, Flip4Mac WMV (Free), StarPlayr CookieMonster file (use StarPlayr to setup your Sirius Login or you can manually copy it from another machine that uses StarPlayr to /users/username/Library/'Application Support'/StarPlayr/CookieMonster), and ofcourse a Sirius Internet Radio or Sirius Satellite Radio subscription.
See NiceMac.com for details. Making Sirius Simple, for Mac users.
Official StarScript™ Thread: http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=1367.msg6768;topicseen#msg6768
HeinousMark 03-01-2008, 07:01 AM Hey Goodtime: Can you tell me in simple terms what the "song tracker" is on the lower left? I have it turned off, because I don't know what it does, and I hate wading through info to find the one sentence I need to know. Thanks, I'm spreading the word...
goodtime 03-01-2008, 09:18 AM Hey Goodtime: Can you tell me in simple terms what the "song tracker" is on the lower left? I have it turned off, because I don't know what it does, and I hate wading through info to find the one sentence I need to know. Thanks, I'm spreading the word...
The Artist Song Tracker downloads the Artist and Song data from a third party source. If you are at your computer alot you can leave it on using T1 or T2. If you see the message "tracker not available" a lot that means that tracker is down. StarPlayr 1.7.7 has four tracker options. You can mouse over then for a brief description of what each tracker.
If you record a lot, leaving the tracker off will not hurt anything. In fact it will save the third parties some bandwidth.
Also if the tracker is off, it will not download any album art.
gt :-)
steve7968 03-01-2008, 10:00 AM Do you have Mac? Do you want better scheduled recordings? Are you an Audio-Hijack Pro user? Introducing StarScript™. The faceless automated scripting tool for Sirius Radio. Requires Mac OS X, Flip4Mac WMV (Free), StarPlayr CookieMonster file (use StarPlayr to setup your Sirius Login or you can manually copy it from another machine that uses StarPlayr to /users/username/Library/'Application Support'/StarPlayr/CookieMonster), and ofcourse a Sirius Internet Radio or Sirius Satellite Radio subscription.
See NiceMac.com for details. Making Sirius Simple, for Mac users.
Official StarScript™ Thread: http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=1367.msg6768;topicseen#msg6768
mr. jeff will love this :bigup:
BETHS BITCH 03-01-2008, 12:46 PM Use the Paws button. To pause for a long time, use a 32000k or larger cache (see the StarPlayr Preferences, Desktop -> Preferences).
Right now you can only flip through commercials in recordings via iTunes or an iPod. The streams are live right now, but DVR-like functionality is in the works with pause, rewind and fast forward.
To pause for 12-24 hours, use a 232000k cache.
i love your player and have tried out the recording function
very easy to use everything and the auto add to itunes is nice if you want to archive show - i just wouldnt record the show at internet broadcast fidelities
very very cool tho , i signed up for the free 7 day online trial in Canada and the player works great
streamline the look of the playback buttons
goodtime 03-01-2008, 04:09 PM i just wouldnt record the show at internet broadcast fidelities
very very cool tho , i signed up for the free 7 day online trial in Canada and the player works great
streamline the look of the playback buttons
Talk radio sounds pretty good at the high bitrate. I listen to it from my iPhone in the car and it sounds just as good as an FM station. I encode it at 96k.
The bottom buttons are being redesigned will probably be introduced in v1.8. However the playback, stop and StarCast buttons will remain the same.
I don't use the bottom buttons much (just when testing). I usually use presets, the iCal scripts, Popup menus, spacebar for Paws, and M for Mute.
You can also use F1-F10 for the presets. Arrow keys can be used for navigation as well.
gt :-)
NYGiants 03-02-2008, 10:16 AM Incidentally, if, like me, you're listening from work behind a proxy firewall, you have to install Authoxy to get the Sirius stream to work via Starplayr. It's free and works very nicely. There are directions (which I suggest you follow) on the website:
http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=994.0
http://www.hrsoftworks.net/Products.html
bitslap47 03-02-2008, 02:27 PM Incidentally, if, like me, you're listening from work behind a proxy firewall, you have to install Authoxy to get the Sirius stream to work via Starplayr. It's free and works very nicely. There are directions (which I suggest you follow) on the website:
http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=994.0
http://www.hrsoftworks.net/Products.html
StreamSmart should eliminate that issue for a little while at least. The applications will be hitting StreamSmart.net rather than Sirius.com.
BigWillie 03-02-2008, 03:49 PM What in particular wold you like to see different about the interface?
better instructions - I guess I am a dumb-ass after all
superchunk 03-02-2008, 04:03 PM How does this allow me to listen to 128K without paying the extra $$$$$
I love that I don't need Windows media player to listen on my imac!!!
bitslap47 03-02-2008, 05:01 PM better instructions - I guess I am a dumb-ass after all
We can easily create some better documentation. Thanks for the feedback... it is always appreciated.
bitslap47 03-02-2008, 05:04 PM http://www.youtube.com/v/NiS5mbVM7do
Oscar Wilde 03-02-2008, 05:54 PM StarPlayr is great!
I've been using it for a couple of months exclusively.
goodtime 03-03-2008, 05:18 AM Incidentally, if, like me, you're listening from work behind a proxy firewall, you have to install Authoxy to get the Sirius stream to work via Starplayr. It's free and works very nicely. There are directions (which I suggest you follow) on the website:
http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=994.0
http://www.hrsoftworks.net/Products.html
Also, an alternative to Authoxy is SquidMan. It recently added a footnote about it in the instructions. My work switched over to it recently. It seems to take less system resources than Authoxy. The only disadvantage is you cannot close SquidMan's Window, but you can hide it using Cmd-H.
Both Authoxy and SquidMan are free.
gt :-)
goodtime 03-03-2008, 05:20 AM better instructions - I guess I am a dumb-ass after all
Have you've tried reading the documentation on www.NiceMac.com? This is currently the best resource for StarPlayr users.
goodtime 03-03-2008, 09:19 AM StreamSmart should eliminate that issue for a little while at least. The applications will be hitting StreamSmart.net rather than Sirius.com.
The issue with StarPlayr is Mplayer's proxy support is incomplete. If a proxy requires authentication, it does not work in Mplayer. I've tried patch Mplayer without success.
It sounds like StreamSmart will be a native streaming solution, so Mplayer would be eliminated replaced with a Native RSTP Quicktime stream. Then the need Authoxy could be eliminated and we could either use the System's Proxy settings or have proxy support built directly within StarPlayr.
Also Flip4Mac WMV does not currently support proxies and they have been dragging their feet to get this fixed. This is the main reason why I opted for Mplayer instead of Flip4Mac, because I was able to workarond Mplayer's proxy limitations with Authoxy or Squidman combined with setting a Mac OS X Environment variable.
A mini player that I am working on will use Flip4Mac WMV and the Quicktime Player as the back end. It will also be trackerless (the artist and song data will come directly from the stream). It will also have rewind and pause (as fast forward if pause is left on long enough). The mini-player will be called StarLight.
The mini-player also serve work as read out for StarScripting. StarScripting is a faceless recording solution for Audio HiJack Pro ad Flip4Mac WMV users. StarLight can be used to see what is playing inside the QT player in a small compact interface (much smaller than StarPlayr).
StarPlayr is the deluxe model. More and more features will be added to it. Such as an Online Guide, Memo, Alerts, etc.
goodtime 03-03-2008, 09:22 AM :)
goodtime 03-03-2008, 09:34 AM How does this allow me to listen to 128K without paying the extra $$$$$
I love that I don't need Windows media player to listen on my imac!!!
This is something that Sirius should enforce in their backend but doesn't. I do recommend anyone using the 128k setting to be honest and pay the extra three dollars a month. It costs less than 10 cents a day. Down the road this hole will probably be filled either by Sirius, StreamSmart, or StarPlayr if requested in writing by Sirius. The reason why I did not fill this hole is because Canada users do not have a high bitrate solution that is available to them. StarPlayr lets them periodically use the high bandwidth if they happen to get a USA server within three attempts during a request. Note: the only stations that are 32k only are the ones made in Canada.
Yes. The Windows Media Player 9 PowerPC application has been rather useless ever since Microsoft quit supporting it.
MrJeff2000 03-03-2008, 09:45 AM mr. jeff will love this :bigup:
http://i26.tinypic.com/155rzx3.jpg
Hugomarink 03-03-2008, 10:45 AM I downloaded StarPlayr to my MacBook but went back to using SiriusMac 2 because the StarPlayr audio stream cuts out every few minutes whereas the SiriusMac 2 doesn't have such problems. Is there anything I can do to get the StarPlayr to function better?
steve7968 03-03-2008, 11:30 AM I downloaded StarPlayr to my MacBook but went back to using SiriusMac 2 because the StarPlayr audio stream cuts out every few minutes whereas the SiriusMac 2 doesn't have such problems. Is there anything I can do to get the StarPlayr to function better?
think you have to set the bitrate higher...goodtime or bitslap would know better though....
steve7968 03-03-2008, 11:30 AM http://i26.tinypic.com/155rzx3.jpg
:D
RingofFire 03-03-2008, 05:06 PM Holy shit...this player kicks ass on my macbook. I can't believe how much better it is over the sirius player.
Thanks starplayr!
:worship:
goodtime 03-03-2008, 08:02 PM I downloaded StarPlayr to my MacBook but went back to using SiriusMac 2 because the StarPlayr audio stream cuts out every few minutes whereas the SiriusMac 2 doesn't have such problems. Is there anything I can do to get the StarPlayr to function better?
Try increasing the cache for the bitrate that you are using (StarPlayr: Desktop button-> Preferences) , StarPlayr can use a cache size up to 232MB. 16000k or 16MB is recommended for most users. If it is choppy, you can press the Paws button and let it buffer for 3-5 seconds, then release the pause by pressing Paws again (or use the spacebar).
I have not had such problems that you are describing with StarPlayr v1.7.7
v1.7.8 will have an audio monitor and will replay the stream if it loses a connection. Though I rarely lose a connection here with the larger cache sizes.
goodtime 03-03-2008, 08:04 PM Holy shit...this player kicks ass on my macbook. I can't believe how much better it is over the sirius player.
Thanks starplayr!
:worship:
Thank you!
Wait until you see 1.7.8 (or v1.8) this summer.
gt :-)
Los Bookies 03-03-2008, 08:50 PM Niuce. I have a T-MObile Wing pocket pc with WM6. anything?
bitslap47 03-03-2008, 08:51 PM Niuce. I have a T-MObile Wing pocket pc with WM6. anything? SiriusWM5 will run on the Wing.
Darthvedder 03-03-2008, 09:37 PM Goodtime (Todd the inventor) is a real good dude
Now I just need an Iphone.
N3GATIV3 03-03-2008, 11:54 PM starplayr is great, plus it's $Free.99
goodtime 03-04-2008, 05:07 AM Goodtime (Todd the inventor) is a real good dude
Now I just need an Iphone.
Thank you.. The computer that I built is called DarthVader.
My nickname started out as Good Time Todd. Then later became goodtime, then was reduced to gt accordingly.
gt :-)
starplayr is great, plus it's $Free.99
Positive! We do accept donations, www.StarPlayr.com, but it is are not required to use the software. StarPlayr is nag free and ad free (unless you consider really cool album art an ad).
Can I use StarPlayer on Windows XP or just Mac OS?
bitslap47 03-04-2008, 10:09 AM Can I use StarPlayer on Windows XP or just Mac OS?
Currently just MacOSX.
GoodTime(NiceMac and StarPlayr) will be working with myself(GeeksToolBox and Sirius for Windows Mobile Cell Phones) to get a Windows Version together.
NICE!!!
just threw this up on the homepage
bitslap47 03-04-2008, 11:55 AM NICE!!!
just threw this up on the homepage
Thanks Mutt. I appreciate it.
GoodTime and I are working on some really exciting stuff.
Hugomarink 03-04-2008, 02:59 PM Try increasing the cache for the bitrate that you are using (StarPlayr: Desktop button-> Preferences) , StarPlayr can use a cache size up to 232MB. 16000k or 16MB is recommended for most users. If it is choppy, you can press the Paws button and let it buffer for 3-5 seconds, then release the pause by pressing Paws again (or use the spacebar).
I have not had such problems that you are describing with StarPlayr v1.7.7
v1.7.8 will have an audio monitor and will replay the stream if it loses a connection. Though I rarely lose a connection here with the larger cache sizes.
Thanks! I'll give this a try tonight and let you know if it helps.
a2zstocks 03-04-2008, 03:01 PM This works really well!
Thanks! I'll give this a try tonight and let you know if it helps.
I use a high bitrate cache of 65536k and encode at "medium" quality and StarPlayr has been bulletproof!
:D
goodtime 03-04-2008, 07:21 PM I use a high bitrate cache of 65536k and encode at "medium" quality and StarPlayr has been bulletproof!
:D
Yes. That is a great combination especially for the Stern show and talk radio.
The next release of StarPlayr will be even better with an inline MP3 encoder and a stable build of LAME.
gt :-)
TheJuice777 03-04-2008, 07:36 PM Get workin' on the iPhone software! I can't wait til that sucker is available.
Great work man.
Black Sabbath 03-04-2008, 10:08 PM Juice man whats up my old friend ? I too am waiting for the itouch software!!!!
BETHS BITCH 03-04-2008, 10:23 PM ive messed around with recording on this and its very good
i would suggest maybe a timer for recording but thats about it :)
i listened to the whole show today on this player
TheNacho 03-05-2008, 08:52 AM Quick question for the Palm OS:
I want to download the Core Player to "prepare" - I noticed there's a freeware version of it there too. Is there a difference between that and the one thats going to run me around $25?
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I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!
Hugomarink 03-05-2008, 09:50 AM Try increasing the cache for the bitrate that you are using (StarPlayr: Desktop button-> Preferences) , StarPlayr can use a cache size up to 232MB. 16000k or 16MB is recommended for most users. If it is choppy, you can press the Paws button and let it buffer for 3-5 seconds, then release the pause by pressing Paws again (or use the spacebar).
I have not had such problems that you are describing with StarPlayr v1.7.7
v1.7.8 will have an audio monitor and will replay the stream if it loses a connection. Though I rarely lose a connection here with the larger cache sizes.
Turns out I had an older version of StarPlayr so I upgraded to 1.7.7. I increased the cache size up to 65536k as suggested by another poster. Unfortunately, the audio is still cutting out on me. It goes out every few minutes. Not sure why, and if you've never heard of the problem before then maybe it is on my end. I'm running OSX 10.4.10 on my MacBook and it's an Intel model. The SiriusMac2 still works fine.
bitslap47 03-05-2008, 10:30 AM Quick question for the Palm OS:
I want to download the Core Player to "prepare" - I noticed there's a freeware version of it there too. Is there a difference between that and the one thats going to run me around $25?
Do you have a link to the free version? If you post it I'll take a look and see what the diff is for you... I don't know off of the top of my head.
goodtime 03-05-2008, 10:55 AM Turns out I had an older version of StarPlayr so I upgraded to 1.7.7. I increased the cache size up to 65536k as suggested by another poster. Unfortunately, the audio is still cutting out on me. It goes out every few minutes. Not sure why, and if you've never heard of the problem before then maybe it is on my end. I'm running OSX 10.4.10 on my MacBook and it's an Intel model. The SiriusMac2 still works fine.
StarPlayr 1.7.7 does not wait for the buffer to fill and tries to start playing immediately (this allows for long pausing). If your internet connection is slow try pausing (Paws) for 5-10 seconds, press the pause button again (Paws).
That should help clear up any choppiness.
StarPlayr 1.7.8 will have a live buffer which should fix this issue with slow connections.
gt :-)
bitslap47 03-05-2008, 12:32 PM Juice man whats up my old friend ? I too am waiting for the itouch software!!!!
Tomorrow is the Apple press conference regarding the iPhone/iPod Touch SDK... so we shall see what they have to say!
The sooner I have the SDK in my hands, the sooner I can start coding.
TheNacho 03-05-2008, 12:57 PM Core Player Freeware:
http://mytreo.net/downloads/the-core-pocket-media-player,651.html
Thanks Bitslap!
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I like to think of Jesus like with giant eagles wings, and singin' lead vocals for Lynyrd Skynyrd with like an angel band and I'm in the front row and I'm hammered drunk!
goodtime 03-05-2008, 01:03 PM ive messed around with recording on this and its very good
i would suggest maybe a timer for recording but thats about it :)
i listened to the whole show today on this player
There are two timer options available for StarPlayr.
One is called StarCasting which makes use of iCal and StarPlayr to record a preset on a schedule. See NiceMac.com for details and your StarPlayr 1.7.7 DMG for the Scripts.
A second option is available for Audio HiJack Pro users. See NiceMac's tips and tricks section for the Script and howto. Requires Quicktime Player and Flip4Mac WMV (Both are free, Audio HiJack Pro is $32). The Audio HiJack Pro option does not use StarPlayr, but just its login information (CookieMonster file).
Both are excellent timer solutions that are available now.
The next version of StarPlayr will have an inline MP3 encoder, so this will be even faster to get your StarCast files.
gt :-)
bitslap47 03-05-2008, 01:40 PM Core Player Freeware:
http://mytreo.net/downloads/the-core-pocket-media-player,651.html
Thanks Bitslap!
That is an older pre-release version. I'm not sure if that one supports asf format on the Palm platform or not... but if it does, the only difference in reality would be that it is unsupported by the developer (Core.)
Test it out and see if asf streams will play (I supplied a link in this thread on the first couple of pages somewhere.) If it does work, you are in business for free!
Hugomarink 03-05-2008, 02:41 PM StarPlayr 1.7.7 does not wait for the buffer to fill and tries to start playing immediately (this allows for long pausing). If your internet connection is slow try pausing (Paws) for 5-10 seconds, press the pause button again (Paws).
That should help clear up any choppiness.
StarPlayr 1.7.8 will have a live buffer which should fix this issue with slow connections.
gt :-)
Thank you for the suggestions but the Paws button doesn't really help. The audio cuts out frequently -- every 30-60 seconds -- sometimes for just a few seconds and sometimes for much longer periods. Using the Paws button will bring it back but then it goes back out again. I can't sit there pushing the Paws button every other minute to keep the stream going. Maybe my wireless connection is just too slow, or maybe I'm a retard. :D I'll keep trying.
BETHS BITCH 03-05-2008, 04:58 PM There are two timer options available for StarPlayr.
One is called StarCasting which makes use of iCal and StarPlayr to record a preset on a schedule. See NiceMac.com for details and your StarPlayr 1.7.7 DMG for the Scripts.
A second option is available for Audio HiJack Pro users. See NiceMac's tips and tricks section for the Script and howto. Requires Quicktime Player and Flip4Mac WMV (Both are free, Audio HiJack Pro is $32). The Audio HiJack Pro option does not use StarPlayr, but just its login information (CookieMonster file).
Both are excellent timer solutions that are available now.
The next version of StarPlayr will have an inline MP3 encoder, so this will be even faster to get your StarCast files.
gt :-)
thanks for the software tips.....maybe someday total recorder will be out on mac
im not that worried about starplayer being used as a recording source of the show anyways the internet stream bitrate is too low (i need 128k) - just was thinking it would be cool if you could do scheduled record with it
goodtime 03-05-2008, 10:07 PM thanks for the software tips.....maybe someday total recorder will be out on mac
im not that worried about starplayer being used as a recording source of the show anyways the internet stream bitrate is too low (i need 128k) - just was thinking it would be cool if you could do scheduled record with it
StarPlayr has 128k.. Just switch the bitrate.
Thank you for the suggestions but the Paws button doesn't really help. The audio cuts out frequently -- every 30-60 seconds -- sometimes for just a few seconds and sometimes for much longer periods. Using the Paws button will bring it back but then it goes back out again. I can't sit there pushing the Paws button every other minute to keep the stream going. Maybe my wireless connection is just too slow, or maybe I'm a retard. :D I'll keep trying.
The problem that you are describing is erratic.
It could be networking, your wireless connection, your ISP, the speed of your machine, the type of processor, the build or version of Mplayer, etc.
But more than likely it is Mplayer. Both SiriusMac2 and StarPlayr use Mplayer but they are using different builds. Since SiriusMac2 works fine for you, their pre-compiled binary of Mplayer may work better .
You could try using the pre-compiled Mplayer from SiriusMac2 and stick it in /StarPlayr.app/Contents/Resources/
If you really want to get your hands dirty. Install the Developer Tools. Download the Mplayer source code. Run these terminal commands:
cd /path_to_mplayer-source-folder
sudo -s
[enter admin password]
./configure
make
That will compile Mplayer for your specific hardware.
gt :-)
BETHS BITCH 03-05-2008, 10:24 PM StarPlayr has 128k.. Just switch the bitrate.
i dont think howard is broadcast at 128k over the internet feed?
to get 128 k i think you need to record from a radio
sternrules1717 03-05-2008, 11:06 PM sweet!
sternrules1717 03-05-2008, 11:06 PM sweet!
goodtime 03-06-2008, 05:22 AM i dont think howard is broadcast at 128k over the internet feed?
to get 128 k i think you need to record from a radio
Howard stern is broadcast at 48k. (All Sirius high bitrate talk radio stations are 48k over the internet).
This is sufficient for talk radio.
For best results, encode it as a 96k MP3 file and you will not notice a difference and it will sound good on an iPod or your car stereo.
The ASF 48k stream = 96k MP3 file in terms of quality
Windows Media 9 files have a higher quality compression algorithm than LAME encoded files. Doubling the bitrate in the MP3 file seems to even it out.
Voice does not need to be CD quality. Most podcasts are mono 64k AAC or MP3 files. 128k is a colossal waste of bandwidth for talk radio.
gt :-)
This, and every other possible question, answered at goodtime's thoroughly helpful site
http://nicemac.com/
BETHS BITCH 03-06-2008, 08:12 PM Howard stern is broadcast at 48k. (All Sirius high bitrate talk radio stations are 48k over the internet).
This is sufficient for talk radio.
For best results, encode it as a 96k MP3 file and you will not notice a difference and it will sound good on an iPod or your car stereo.
The ASF 48k stream = 96k MP3 file in terms of quality
Windows Media 9 files have a higher quality compression algorithm than LAME encoded files. Doubling the bitrate in the MP3 file seems to even it out.
Voice does not need to be CD quality. Most podcasts are mono 64k AAC or MP3 files. 128k is a colossal waste of bandwidth for talk radio.
gt :-)
i agree with all this - the differences most people would hear are negligible
but
i can hear a difference between 96k and 128k in presence and especially when music bits are played - im kind of a audiophile/dynamic range freak though
128k is the closest recording fidelity ive heard to match what my boombox sounds like with a live broadcast
bitslap47 03-06-2008, 09:22 PM Rough concept running in the Aspen Simulator:
http://forums.geekstoolbox.com/image_store/iphoness/SiriusHome.png
http://forums.geekstoolbox.com/image_store/iphoness/Punk.png
http://forums.geekstoolbox.com/image_store/iphoness/Favorites.png
mellochord 03-06-2008, 09:55 PM Sweet
cpjordan 03-07-2008, 05:20 AM Ohhhhmy how soon for iPhone>???
I ditched my pc and no longer have orb...
goodtime 03-07-2008, 07:32 AM i agree with all this - the differences most people would hear are negligible
but
i can hear a difference between 96k and 128k in presence and especially when music bits are played - im kind of a audiophile/dynamic range freak though
128k is the closest recording fidelity ive heard to match what my boombox sounds like with a live broadcast
You are right. We are working within the limitations of what Sirius provides over its internet radio. Lower bitrates for talk radio and less stations then Sirius Satellite Radio.
One advantage SIR over SSR is you don't to have an extra receiver or satellite signal on your home to get the majority of the channels. Many StarPlayr's users prefer Starplayr for these reasons including myself. I just have Sirius in one vehicle and the receiver came with the car. Since I already own an iPhone and several computers, StarPlayr lets me use my existing equipment and allows me to get the most of my Sirius Subscription without paying for any extra equipment. If the this is not good enough, Sirius subscribers can always opt to buy an additional receiver. We are just offering these subscribers a choice. Hopefully Sirius and Howard Stern will not mind these third parties offering these choices to them.
It's good for consumers to have these options and they will have even more to choose from later this year. And if the merger goes through, even more.
I have a feeling there will be an explosion of third party development for Sirius and XM this year. It will be interesting to see what happens next. I would like to see the merger go through and third party development to continue afterwards. The focus has been on the merger and we are definitely under the radar. It will be interesting to see how Sirius responds to us in the future. I wish everyone involved Sirius, XM, Howard Stern, SFN, NiceMac LLC, GeeksToolBox, the best.
gt :-)
p.s.
Sirius on the iPhone will be the coolest thing ever this year.
bitslap47 03-07-2008, 09:02 AM Ohhhhmy how soon for iPhone>???
I ditched my pc and no longer have orb...
Apple isn't releasing the new phone firmware to allow non-developers to load the applications on their phones until late June early July, so definitely not before then.
mastermix 03-07-2008, 10:40 AM Just saw the Quicktime stream of the iPhone SDK event. The tools look phenomenal, looks like you guys are going to have some fun!
so i was bumbed that you don't have a windows sirius player and makign due with the sirius firefox plugin when i found this Windows Sirius player pluging for Windows Media Player
http://www.afreecodec.com/images/ss/720/1373.jpg (http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/)
http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/
looks pretty cool. I'm gonna give it a test ride
BETHS BITCH 03-07-2008, 03:10 PM omg windows media player is trash
Itunes mutt......Itunes :)
MrJeff2000 03-07-2008, 08:17 PM The Sirius Yahoo Widget is now Windows-accessible.
In fact, his newest version is ONLY Windows-based :(
www.siriustuner.com
goodtime 03-07-2008, 08:23 PM so i was bumbed that you don't have a windows sirius player and makign due with the sirius firefox plugin when i found this Windows Sirius player pluging for Windows Media Player
http://www.afreecodec.com/images/ss/720/1373.jpg (http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/)
http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/
looks pretty cool. I'm gonna give it a test ride
It requires IE 6 or 7, Windows Media Player 10 or 11.
Not a very original name: "SIRIUS Internet Radio Player 2.1.1.63"
bitslap47 03-07-2008, 08:39 PM so i was bumbed that you don't have a windows sirius player and makign due with the sirius firefox plugin when i found this Windows Sirius player pluging for Windows Media Player
http://www.afreecodec.com/images/ss/720/1373.jpg (http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/)
http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/
looks pretty cool. I'm gonna give it a test ride Good find. Please do let me know what you do and don't like. I am working on a Windows version, so the feedback will be useful.
goodtime 03-08-2008, 05:55 PM Good find. Please do let me know what you do and don't like. I am working on a Windows version, so the feedback will be useful.
I like the online guide, but I don't like the channel icons; they're blurry.
I also do not like that it is a plug-in and that it requires Internet Explorer.
The overall layout looks good.
gt :-)
blue2noise 03-09-2008, 08:09 AM You are correct... the Orb solution works. The reason we are working on an iPhone solution even though there is a working solution now is that our solution will be self sufficient. There will be no need to have a PC or Mac running somewhere to get the stream to your phone.
For some people it's not a big deal, but I personally like the self contained solutions :)
I agree. I just bought an iPhone and its the coolest thing. I do think the Orb solution is nowhere near as cool as having a self sufficient program. I used to use my Sirius WM5 all the time and cant wait for an iphone solution!
blue2noise 03-09-2008, 08:14 AM Rough concept running in the Aspen Simulator:
http://forums.geekstoolbox.com/image_store/iphoness/Favorites.png
This just gave me wood and I would pay $30 for it! Nice!
blue2noise 03-09-2008, 08:20 AM Just read this on iLounge. Wouldn't this make things difficult?
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According to the official iPhone Human Interface Guidelines recently published by Apple, only one iPhone application may run at a time, and third-party iPhone applications will not be able to run in the background, posing a potential challenge to developers. “Only one iPhone application can run at a time, and third-party applications never run in the background,” the document states. “This means that when users switch to another application, answer the phone, or check their email, the application they were using quits. It’s important to make sure that users do not experience any negative effects because of this reality. In other words, users should not feel that leaving your iPhone application and returning to it later is any more difficult than switching among applications on a computer.” These guidelines may limit the usefulness of apps which benefit from a persistent network connection; it is unclear whether Apple will allow select partners, such as AOL and their AIM client, to bypass these rules.
goodtime 03-09-2008, 02:15 PM Just read this on iLounge. Wouldn't this make things difficult?
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According to the official iPhone Human Interface Guidelines recently published by Apple, only one iPhone application may run at a time, and third-party iPhone applications will not be able to run in the background, posing a potential challenge to developers. “Only one iPhone application can run at a time, and third-party applications never run in the background,” the document states. “This means that when users switch to another application, answer the phone, or check their email, the application they were using quits. It’s important to make sure that users do not experience any negative effects because of this reality. In other words, users should not feel that leaving your iPhone application and returning to it later is any more difficult than switching among applications on a computer.” These guidelines may limit the usefulness of apps which benefit from a persistent network connection; it is unclear whether Apple will allow select partners, such as AOL and their AIM client, to bypass these rules.
Interesting. One advantage to StarPlayr is it sends an audio to iTunes that can be sync'd with the iPhone. These files are can run in the background like any other audio file on the iPhone. The disadvantage is its not a live stream. It should be possible to play audio in the background through a widget. I guess it depends how the audio is called up and if the audio allow to stay alive once leaving the widget. There should be a way to tap into the iPhone's audio frameworks and let it take over the audio.
I also do not see much flexibility in the beta SDK like running an ARM compiled version of Mplayer without jailbreaking the phone. I don't think I can even compile Mplayer for the iPhone unless it is compiled directly on the iPhone through GCC.
I guess we will find the pros and cons of running native iPhone apps and widgets by this summer when SDK has been updated. StarPlayr will support converting the Stream to an iPhone optimized format for local streaming over WiFi. This will also work with Airtunes/Airport express setups. StarPlayr 1.8 will use an inline MP3 encoder. It's recording (StarCast) feature will be much better.
We shall see.
gt :)
frontrow 03-09-2008, 02:33 PM Is there a way to uninstall StarPlayr?
As soon as I downloaded it my Mac works very, very slow. Is there an uninstall or can I simply drag to garbage?
Thanks
goodtime 03-09-2008, 03:39 PM Is there a way to uninstall StarPlayr?
As soon as I downloaded it my Mac works very, very slow. Is there an uninstall or can I simply drag to garbage?
Thanks
It does not install anything. It can be removed by quitting StarPlayr and throwing it into the trash. In the future, the official StarPlayr support site is NiceMac.com. StarPlayr uses 3-10% CPU power to stream audio. It is not a CPU hog. The only process that hogs the CPU all at once is LAME (When saving a starcast/recording), but that will be fixed in 1.8.0.
If you do not shutdown starplayr properly by force-quitting it, that could cause a drain after awhile. It's background processes will not be shutdown this way.
Ways to tell StarPlayr does not install anything:
1. It does not require an Admin password to run.
2. It does not have an installer package.
3. You dragged and dropped it into your applications folder.
If your system is running slow after trashing StarPlay, restart your computer. This will clear out any temp files that StarPlayr created.
v1.8 will have better management of system resources. It should be much better.
gt :)
bitslap47 03-11-2008, 07:18 AM Just read this on iLounge. Wouldn't this make things difficult?
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According to the official iPhone Human Interface Guidelines recently published by Apple, only one iPhone application may run at a time, and third-party iPhone applications will not be able to run in the background, posing a potential challenge to developers. “Only one iPhone application can run at a time, and third-party applications never run in the background,” the document states. “This means that when users switch to another application, answer the phone, or check their email, the application they were using quits. It’s important to make sure that users do not experience any negative effects because of this reality. In other words, users should not feel that leaving your iPhone application and returning to it later is any more difficult than switching among applications on a computer.” These guidelines may limit the usefulness of apps which benefit from a persistent network connection; it is unclear whether Apple will allow select partners, such as AOL and their AIM client, to bypass these rules.
Not at all... the application will hand the stream off to the built in player which does play in the background... it would then save it's state (database access is available in the SDK.) When you launch the app again, it will read it's last state and look the same as it did when it closed. The end user won;t even know the difference...
I must say, I've written a few apps now just to play around with the iPhone, and the hardware is amazing... not only does it know it's location for example, it knows it's altitude and tells you how accurate the lat/long/alt readings are that it is supplying to you.
The graphics power is unreal for a portable device... games will be amazing (we have a few ideas at GeeksToolBox for games we will be developing... even some old sk00l stuff like Scorched Earth/Scorched Earth 3D)
goodtime 03-12-2008, 07:48 AM There will be an issue when streaming over edge and you receive a phone call. WiFi streaming should not be affected.
cpjordan 03-14-2008, 05:06 AM There will be an issue when streaming over edge and you receive a phone call. WiFi streaming should not be affected.
Have you tried this on a jailbroken phone yet or just speculating? I cannot get much to work over edge, thnking about dumping the phone and getting a touch for that reason alone... I cannot wait, I sold my stiletto.....
goodtime 03-14-2008, 08:35 AM It's a limitation of the Edge Wireless network. It's not an issue from me now since I do not use the internet and make voice phone calls at the same time.
Safari can run in the background on the phone, but try making a phone call and then running Safari. It won't let you do anything over Edge until the phone call has ended.
Now StreamSmart could put the stream on pause at its end and when you come back to it, it could continue the stream. This would be the best solution for this.
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bitslap47 03-14-2008, 09:11 AM There will be an issue when streaming over edge and you receive a phone call. WiFi streaming should not be affected.
It will be no more of an issue than it is now on other mobile phones... and I actually I prefer it's behavior.
What will happen is that the stream will pause for an incoming call... it will not restart autmatically until you open the application again.
bitslap47 03-14-2008, 09:20 AM It's a limitation of the Edge Wireless network. It's not an issue from me now since I do not use the internet and make voice phone calls at the same time.
Safari can run in the background on the phone, but try making a phone call and then running Safari. It won't let you do anything over Edge until the phone call has ended.
Now StreamSmart could put the stream on pause at its end and when you come back to it, it could continue the stream. This would be the best solution for this.
gt
The limitation with EDGE is only that simultaneous voice and data is not supported.
Here is how it will work:
If you are streaming on EDGE and a call comes in, the stream will pause. When you end the call, the built in media player will try to resume. If it has been too long, it will fail (the stream token times out for security reasons on Sirius's side of things.) If it has been a short call, it will resume.
If on WiFi, we will attempt to only mute the stream, then un-mute when the call finishes.
There is much debate on the internet as to whether you can receive a call while EDGE data is being used.
The short answers is yes you can. It will pause your data stream though.
Some devices have hardware and/or firmware that does not allow this and sends your calls to VM. In most cases, firmware updates have cured this (i.e. Moto Q and Treo700w series, Sprint XV6700.)
On true 3G, data and voice can exist simultaneously... so the stream can continue and simply be muted.
WiFi, same as 3G.
All that being said, i want Sirius to pause or mute when a call comes in, so I could care less since both solutions get me the same thing.
The only thing that may be annoying is over EDGE after a long call, the resume will fail and I will have to launch the application again to resume listening.
That is exactly how SiriusWM5 works now on EDGE... pauses when a call comes in then resumes when a call finishes... if the call was long, you have to click the channel again to restart it.
Lonnie from Ricks tells me he had some trouble installing this on his mac. i know nothing about macs or this program. are there any common install issues & fixes? thanks
Good find. Please do let me know what you do and don't like. I am working on a Windows version, so the feedback will be useful.
NICE, will do.
Chris3mes1 03-21-2008, 08:40 AM so i was bumbed that you don't have a windows sirius player and makign due with the sirius firefox plugin when i found this Windows Sirius player pluging for Windows Media Player
http://www.afreecodec.com/images/ss/720/1373.jpg (http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/)
http://www.afreecodec.com/win/2048/sirius-internet-radio-player-21163/
looks pretty cool. I'm gonna give it a test ride
IS this any good? Has anyone tried this out?
SternFanTwo 03-21-2008, 08:43 AM Will it ever work on the Treo?
cpjordan 03-21-2008, 08:53 AM CHeck the forums at
www.geekstoolbox.com
I thought new TREOs supported windows mobile
cpjordan 03-21-2008, 08:55 AM IS this any good? Has anyone tried this out?
Totally Dawsome! I have had sirius stream working on a blackjack, a blackberry and now iphone. It works and cooler stuff just around the corner when he launches streamsmart
Chris3mes1 03-21-2008, 09:07 AM Totally Dawsome! I have had sirius stream working on a blackjack, a blackberry and now iphone. It works and cooler stuff just around the corner when he launches streamsmart Not the ones for the phone, the one for windows media player?
Is the Mozilla firefox one any good?
SternFanTwo 03-21-2008, 09:09 AM CHeck the forums at
www.geekstoolbox.com
I thought new TREOs supported windows mobile
I'll check. I have old shitty Treo...
Lonnie from Ricks tells me he had some trouble installing this on his mac. i know nothing about macs or this program. are there any common install issues & fixes? thanks Hey Mutt,
the official StarPlayr support site is http://nicemac.com , A good starting point for Lonnie can be found at http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=1092.msg5326#msg5326
Sorry, I don't mean to post the same thing on different threads, but for you and Lonnie...
Any luck finding your dog?
Good luck!
steve7968 03-21-2008, 09:12 AM Lonnie from Ricks tells me he had some trouble installing this on his mac. i know nothing about macs or this program. are there any common install issues & fixes? thanks
i've installed on a few macs.. no problems... just have to make sure "Mac OS X 10.4 or later"
that's all i know of (unless goodtime or bitslap has any other info)
jleicheng 03-21-2008, 09:16 AM Sweet!
One question: How the hell do you program the presets on the right side of the player? I can't find 'program'
cpjordan 03-21-2008, 09:17 AM Not the ones for the phone, the one for windows media player?
Is the Mozilla firefox one any good?
Man, I don't like the mozilla plugin bc even with a fast internet connection it pauses and skips when you load a page in another window or tab.
For mac, I like starplayr, for pc vlc
steve7968 03-21-2008, 09:19 AM Sweet!
One question: How the hell do you program the presets on the right side of the player? I can't find 'program'
easy to do... see the "presets" button top right of player with a lock on it? click to unlock.. then change station to one you want... then you click in one of the right hand preset positions on right.. it will "set" it.. repeat until you all presets to stations you want. then click preset button to lock again
jleicheng 03-21-2008, 09:24 AM Thanks!
hootinan 03-21-2008, 09:31 AM since I have to post on my iPhone because of my job this would be huge
guayuque 03-21-2008, 09:57 AM Looks like a great app and I will try it this weekend. I am curious and confused though. I would like to automatically send shows to iTunes for later sync to my iPod. What is the workflow and what apps are required?
Do I use iCal to schedule and the process is automated after that? Do I need to learn how to create scripts? (I generally only use Mac for iPhoto, iTunes, iDVD, iMovie)
Thanks.
mrchappelow 03-21-2008, 10:00 AM I would reup my sub for this.
I would like to automatically send shows to iTunes for later sync to my iPod. What is the workflow and what apps are required? To send to iTunes, simply select the "send to iTunes" checkbox in the preference window. It automatically sends it to iTunes when the recording is completed, no additional apps are required. If you iPod is connected, it will sync automatically!
Do I use iCal to schedule and the process is automated after that? Do I need to learn how to create scripts? No, you don't have to learn how to create scripts.
The scripts that are provided work great with iCal, just make sure you start the recording "3 minutes before"
For example, to start at 6AM, set an alarm for 6:00 AM, but have the script set to run "3 minutes before" . Set another alarm to run the "stop starcast" script "6 hours after", set it up to repeat "every week on Mon,Tue, Wed, Thu, and Fri"
guayuque 03-21-2008, 11:11 AM To send to iTunes, simply select the "send to iTunes" checkbox in the preference window. It automatically sends it to iTunes when the recording is completed, no additional apps are required. If you iPod is connected, it will sync automatically!
No, you don't have to learn how to create scripts.
The scripts that are provided work great with iCal, just make sure you start the recording "3 minutes before"
For example, to start at 6AM, set an alarm for 6:00 AM, but have the script set to run "3 minutes before" . Set another alarm to run the "stop starcast" script "6 hours after", set it up to repeat "every week on Mon,Tue, Wed, Thu, and Fri"
Awesome. I will try it this weekend. Thanks, pal!
spotahottie 03-24-2008, 06:58 AM I have wanted to listen on my Win. Mobile phone forever... thank you!
artechba 03-24-2008, 09:08 AM Does this work on iPhone?
SwingOnThis 03-24-2008, 09:13 AM Does this work on iPhone?
Yes, can someone give us step-by-step instructions on how to stream on our iPhones? This thread is very confusing.
spotahottie 03-27-2008, 06:17 AM This is AWESOME!!!! I installed the software yesterday. It works great! Yesterday I was at the DDS and listened to Howard while in the chair. I am going to take Howard with me to the gym.
I have a T-Mobile Wing with Windows Mobile 6.0 - The quality of the stream is excellent even when using the egular GPRS data stream. When I am in a hotspot/high speed, the sound is just like the radio in my car!
THANK YOU AGAIN!
blue2noise 03-27-2008, 07:01 AM Yes, can someone give us step-by-step instructions on how to stream on our iPhones? This thread is very confusing.
Until they have an app ready to go, you can use this workaround.
Sirius on your iPhone (http://saveonphone.phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/blog/how-to-get-sirius-satellite-radio-to-work-on-your-iphone.aspx)
HeinousMark 03-27-2008, 07:27 AM Is there a timer on this software? For example, if I want it to record the Riley Martin show late at night, can I set it to do that? I tried letting it record all night, but the first time the file was too big, and the next time, it shut off when Ferrel's show ended... wah.. aside from that, I've had far less trouble than with the actual Sirious player.
JLausch 03-27-2008, 09:17 AM StarPlayr ROCKS... been with these guys since the early SiriusMac. :bigup:
Looking forward to an iPhone app... :pray:
I love StarPlayr, but i've had sirius on my iphone for a year using uSirius and Orb, and you don't need to install a 3rd party app for that, i'll def be all over this though once they have apps available without hacking... :)
bitslap47 03-27-2008, 11:07 AM Just a quick update.
GoodTime is working on a VERY exciting next version of StarPlayr.
I have made excellent progress on my StreamSmart project (which will power portions of StarPlayr) as well. We are in fact starting Phase one Alpha testing of the back end service in the next 2 weeks.
Once the back-end is complete, the clients will come fast and furious.
We also have some killer features (especially the iPhone version)... these features are HUGE and will help keep the product free as it has always been. Stay tuned...
You can check out the current progress and apply for Alpha testing here: http://forums.geekstoolbox.com
If you missed it, promo video episode #1 can be found here: http://www.streamsmart.net
Thank you to everyone who has emailed and donated to the cause! I appreciate it, and I am completely amazed that so many are interested in and use the software I created years ago in a few hours of spare time. Since then, it has turned into a very fun and satisfying project, and I have gained many good friends as a result.
goodtime 03-27-2008, 11:16 AM Is there a timer on this software? For example, if I want it to record the Riley Martin show late at night, can I set it to do that? I tried letting it record all night, but the first time the file was too big, and the next time, it shut off when Ferrel's show ended... wah.. aside from that, I've had far less trouble than with the actual Sirious player.
Yes there is. Through iCal and special scripts created for StarPlayr.
gt :-)
goodtime 03-27-2008, 11:25 AM Looks like a great app and I will try it this weekend. I am curious and confused though. I would like to automatically send shows to iTunes for later sync to my iPod. What is the workflow and what apps are required?
Do I use iCal to schedule and the process is automated after that? Do I need to learn how to create scripts? (I generally only use Mac for iPhoto, iTunes, iDVD, iMovie)
Thanks.
For StarPlayr.. Install 1.7.7 and get it up and running. (StarPlayr needs to be on your apps folder)
Unlock the presets button, select a preset (probably the first 1). Lock the preset button. This will set the preset for your favorite channel.
Then there is a folder called somelike like iCal Scripts (it has an iCal folder on the DMG that comes with StarPlayr)
Copy the ICal scripts folder to your Documents folder or somewhere safe on your hard drive.
open one of the preset 1 script in that folder, make sure it works by running the script. Then also test the stop script.
See my thread on how to use the scripts with iCal. If it fairly simple once you get it setup.
http://nicemac.com/index.php?topic=1094.0
StarPlayr 1.7.8 will work the same way but the script will be updated. However, it will have an inline MP3 encoder, so you will not have to wait for the MP3 to encode after the recording is finished. The downside to this is there is not an ASF master folder anymore. So if you fuck up the bitrate, your fucked. Hopefully this will not be a big issue since the default bitrates works pretty good for Howard 100.
For more info:
see the readme files on the StarPlayr 177 DMG
nicemac.com (Official home of StarPlayr)
starplayr.com
Wicked Red Sox 03-27-2008, 11:58 AM Until they have an app ready to go, you can use this workaround.
Sirius on your iPhone (http://saveonphone.phonedog.com/cell-phone-research/blog/how-to-get-sirius-satellite-radio-to-work-on-your-iphone.aspx)
nice doing it now
Wicked Red Sox 03-27-2008, 12:22 PM shit it works nice
cpjordan 04-17-2008, 05:39 AM Hey Goodtime, starplayr have a pause button option in the works? Also, I still can't get orb working in any xp emulators (tried vmware and crossover). Anyone there yet?
goodtime 05-14-2008, 11:40 AM StarPlayr2.0.5 (currently Leopard only, Tiger in June) has pause.. and if you want to pause for longer periods of time or seek forward and backwards it has a featured called Instant Replay (can be turned on under options button or preferences menu). I mostly listen casually and just stream the audio and when listening to Howard, record it the day before and have SP2 put it on my iPhone for me to listen it to uninterrupted while I am on the road.
Other features include:
Sound Monitor. If StarPlayr loses its connection, it will reconnect automatically.
iCal integration is back. Record Howard when you want it.
Built in MP3 encoder. No waiting for your MP3 file to be made.
Split recordings via iCal.. Just insert a 2nd record script and it will split the recording.
Window Transparency
Float on Top
Zero latency when syncing recordings with iTunes or updating your iPod.
Song Lyrics with LyricWiki
Album covers and links to purchase the album or song(s) from Amazon with Country locale (US, UK, CA, JP, GER)
Works great!
2.0.4 was entered into Apple Design Awards for 2008.
Sincerely,
Goodtime
Gatorbater 05-21-2008, 06:07 AM You are correct... the Orb solution works. The reason we are working on an iPhone solution even though there is a working solution now is that our solution will be self sufficient. There will be no need to have a PC or Mac running somewhere to get the stream to your phone.
For some people it's not a big deal, but I personally like the self contained solutions :)
How does this work????? I would love to listen through the IPhone!!!
bobnob 06-10-2008, 03:53 PM so ... is there an app coming for the iphone? or for now is the best option to use the starplayr/ ical method to record and listen to the file through itunes? trying to figure this out. thanks.
BeardFace 07-30-2008, 11:10 AM Thank you sooooo much for bringing this program to my attention. This app has solved all the problems I had with the sirius site plus you can record. Thanks again!!
alexmeboy 07-30-2008, 06:52 PM I agree...Isirius with orb works great for my Ipod touch.
Cheers.
cheeseheadjonn 07-30-2008, 06:56 PM can i get it to work for my lg dare???
SeanWuzHere 07-30-2008, 07:50 PM Oh hai. iPhone app plz. kthxbye.
Iron Sheik 07-30-2008, 08:01 PM Wheres my 3G iphone app? I would be willing to pay a couple of bucks for it.
gasface 07-30-2008, 08:23 PM been using star player 2 for a while now
it :rock:
RingofFire 08-04-2008, 03:52 AM Wheres my 3G iphone app? I would be willing to pay a couple of bucks for it. :yes:
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