View Full Version : Ron Paul to Barack Obama?
Ronaldus Magnus 03-29-2008, 04:11 AM I am finding it hard to figure out Brent/Bubba's political ideology. Let me first say I was a Ron Paul financial supporter and voter. So I know where Paul is on the issues, and loved when they would talk about him. I just can't understand how you make the jump from Ron Paul to Barack Obama. They are on two opposite ends of the spectrum as far as polices go. Liberal ideology is based around more government control - of everything - and that is a fact. Paul wanted to lessen governments grip around peoples everyday lives. I just can't seem to make the connection??? The "Christian Right" gets a lot of shit for FCC fines and regulation. But if you look back the FCC's over extension of powers happened in the 90's under Clinton. The FCC is not a "conservative" arm of the government. It is a huge cesspool of unelected bureaucrats that controls what we see and hear! If Bubba/Brent think Obama is going to change that they are mistaken. Also I wounder if Bubba realizes that Obama wants to regulate carbon emissions, that would put a damper on those cars Bubba likes to drive around the track so much! Could anybody else explain the leap to me? I just don't get it!
Jedi Beavis 03-29-2008, 07:25 AM Bubba just follows Brent, and the ONLY thing Brent seems to look at is that Obama wants us out of Iraq. As far as Bubba is concerned, that's the only thing that matters, and is probably how he'll vote. I personally think Obama will bend over and spread his cheeks the next time Islam attacks us, much like Al Gore would have done on 9/11 had he won.
Gator_Russ 03-29-2008, 08:06 AM Bubba just follows Brent, and the ONLY thing Brent seems to look at is that Obama wants us out of Iraq. As far as Bubba is concerned, that's the only thing that matters, and is probably how he'll vote. I personally think Obama will bend over and spread his cheeks the next time Islam attacks us, much like Al Gore would have done on 9/11 had he won.
And Global Warming is a farce, and George Bush has single-handedly saved this country from more terroist attacks, and Al Qaeda is on the run in Iraq, and Iran is fixing to start Armageddon, and those fucking Africans need to be thankful with what we've given them already.
Right?
emtfromny2 03-29-2008, 08:18 AM Bubba just follows Brent, and the ONLY thing Brent seems to look at is that Obama wants us out of Iraq. As far as Bubba is concerned, that's the only thing that matters, and is probably how he'll vote. I personally think Obama will bend over and spread his cheeks the next time Islam attacks us, much like Al Gore would have done on 9/11 had he won. :bigclap:
Alex de Large 03-29-2008, 08:23 AM Bubba just follows Brent, and the ONLY thing Brent seems to look at is that Obama wants us out of Iraq. As far as Bubba is concerned, that's the only thing that matters, and is probably how he'll vote. I personally think Obama will bend over and spread his cheeks the next time Islam attacks us, much like Al Gore would have done on 9/11 had he won.
You're an idiot. NOBODY would have taken 9-11 without a reaction, including Gore. Only difference is that Gore wouldn't have been surrounded by war-mongers with an agenda.
If you have an hour, go watch this and try not to look stupid next time:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/
MetalstorM 03-29-2008, 08:37 AM I'm Just glad that my radiation proof bomb shelter is done.............
complete with 2 years worth of bubba replays
because the only thing I want glowing in the dark is my cock
http://www.undercovercondoms.com/condomphotos/gp_nightlight_l_3box1.jpg
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 09:00 AM I understand Obama wants out of Iraq but I'm still waiting to hear a plan. So far I see a lot of talking with little content
Alex de Large 03-29-2008, 09:03 AM I understand Obama wants out of Iraq but I'm still waiting to hear a plan. So far I see a lot of talking with little content
Talk is a start. 4,000 dead soldiers later and the Bushies still aren't talking.
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 09:16 AM Talk is a start. 4,000 dead soldiers later and the Bushies still aren't talking.
Talk is not a start, its posteuring & cheap
Do you follow actual politics or just go by what people you like say?
No a slam but according to your logic you would get behind anybody that says aything to get votes without logic and/or a gameplan
Gator_Russ 03-29-2008, 09:41 AM I understand Obama wants out of Iraq but I'm still waiting to hear a plan. So far I see a lot of talking with little content
"Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda."
-- http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
You're welcome.
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 09:59 AM "Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq. He will keep some troops in Iraq to protect our embassy and diplomats; if al Qaeda attempts to build a base within Iraq, he will keep troops in Iraq or elsewhere in the region to carry out targeted strikes on al Qaeda."
-- http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/
You're welcome.
I wasn't looking for press release by his web guy lol
Iraq is somewhat more complicated than the above & you actually somewhat backed my point
Gator_Russ 03-29-2008, 10:21 AM I wasn't looking for press release by his web guy lol
Iraq is somewhat more complicated than the above & you actually somewhat backed my point
Why's it complicated.
Because they're going to fight a Civil War that they've been fighting for the last 100 years, and why the hell did we intervene anyways?
Check out Henry Rollins' assesment of Iraq when he went there, and his conversation he had with the cab driver. It was on one of Bubba's shows.
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 10:34 AM Why's it complicated.
Because they're going to fight a Civil War that they've been fighting for the last 100 years, and why the hell did we intervene anyways?
Check out Henry Rollins' assesment of Iraq when he went there, and his conversation he had with the cab driver. It was on one of Bubba's shows.
I do not disagree with anything you typed in THIS post ... lol
Your reply from Obama's website proved my point that some people are not looking past his soundbites & his "change"
A politician saying "I will cut taxes & the interest rates" sounds pretty good too but without a plan on how complicated it would be to do it says NOTHING
The only reason Bush was elected for a second term was because people realized Kerry was saying things with little or no substance & he did not have the personality to pull that off. Obama does have the personality & a lot are caught up in that
Gator_Russ 03-29-2008, 11:56 AM What's not specific about the troop withdrawl plan that Obama laid out? Do you want to know what the serial #'s of the vehicles picking the troops up will be?
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 12:20 PM What's not specific about the troop withdrawl plan that Obama laid out? Do you want to know what the serial #'s of the vehicles picking the troops up will be?
There is NOTHING specific, you are a good guy man but all that says is his webguy stating that Obama will pull out little by little. Nothing about cost, nothing about areas of focus, nothing about a real strategy, nothing about a political regime and a UN agreement, nothing but ANYTHING & again it proves my point that bc of Obamas personality some buy into the fact he is saying more than he actually is.
Amits Catbook 03-29-2008, 01:52 PM bubbas been a democrat his whole life so why are you surprised that he likes obama I too like bubba and brent liked ron paul but he's not gunna be in the general election so therefore I had to look at who actually has to have a chance to win and of those I like obama and thats probably what brent/bubba did picked the best in there OPINON of whats left. Again this is why america is great if bubba wants to like obama then he can thats his OPINON if you don't like it them vote for who you like but don't give bubba shit for it
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 03:43 PM what brent/bubba did picked the best in there OPINON of whats left. Again this is why america is great if bubba wants to like obama then he can thats his OPINON if you don't like it them vote for who you like but don't give bubba shit for it
EXACTLY
But it can get annoying to some when they blast anybody that feels differently (like Howard does with his Clinton support) & its annoying when fans get behind a person just because Bubba or Howard does.
I actually am not against Obama & think he is a better candidate than Clinton, but he hasn't shown me anything but a lot of personality so far & while its been proven SFN is not a great area to discuss politics I will still challenge those that I think are caught up in hype because I would like to find out something to get behind with Obama.
With Ron Paul, at least there was a LOT of substance to possible get excited about IMO
Alex de Large 03-29-2008, 05:13 PM Talk is not a start, its posteuring & cheap
Do you follow actual politics or just go by what people you like say?
No a slam but according to your logic you would get behind anybody that says aything to get votes without logic and/or a gameplan
Idiot... I not only follow politics but I'm in the military. Get your head out of your ass.
Those of us in the military are part of the 77% that think Bush is a moron.
Ronaldus Magnus 03-29-2008, 05:48 PM bubbas been a democrat his whole life so why are you surprised that he likes obama I too like bubba and brent liked ron paul but he's not gunna be in the general election so therefore I had to look at who actually has to have a chance to win and of those I like obama and thats probably what brent/bubba did picked the best in there OPINON of whats left. Again this is why america is great if bubba wants to like obama then he can thats his OPINON if you don't like it them vote for who you like but don't give bubba shit for it
I'm not giving Bubba shit for voting Obama. I am having trouble seeing the link from being a fanatical Ron Paul supporter to becoming a fanatical Obama supporter. Would you not agree that their platforms are on completely opposite ends of the spectrum? If he agrees with Obama's platform, and "has been a democrat his whole life", why not back him from the beginning? I am having trouble with this aspect of the show. As far as looking for a general candidate I can understand the duress of picking one of these three. If you haven't guest by now I'm a conservative, and can not STAND McCain. I probably will just end up writing-in Barry Goldwater.
JKGroups 03-29-2008, 05:52 PM Idiot... I not only follow politics but I'm in the military. Get your head out of your ass.
Those of us in the military are part of the 77% that think Bush is a moron.
I credit you for being in the military but you come across fairly stupid & your above points (I never mentioned Bush & he is NOT running for re-election) prove you are lacking
Being in the military doesn't make you smarter about politics but it does earn you respect for being there
artiesnut 03-29-2008, 06:45 PM bubbas been a democrat his whole life so why are you surprised that he likes obama I too like bubba and brent liked ron paul but he's not gunna be in the general election so therefore I had to look at who actually has to have a chance to win and of those I like obama and thats probably what brent/bubba did picked the best in there OPINON of whats left. Again this is why america is great if bubba wants to like obama then he can thats his OPINON if you don't like it them vote for who you like but don't give bubba shit for it Bubba has said that he voted for Bush in his first run and he seems to be just following the bullshit that Brent is spewing. If these guys were true Ron Paul supporters the long legged mack daddy bullshit artist is the furthest from what Paul stands for.
Ronaldus Magnus 03-30-2008, 06:10 AM If these guys were true Ron Paul supporters the long legged mack daddy bullshit artist is the furthest from what Paul stands for.
Agreed! How do go from Paul, how wants to shut the I.R.S. down to BO who wants to raise taxes (but just on the rich, yeah right)?
Slayer 03-30-2008, 07:40 AM Maybe because Ron Paul was in dream land and the reality is you have to make a choice on who's actually running. If you're tired of 8 years of Republican leadership then the only real choice is Obama, because Hillary can't win, too many people hate her. It's just that simple.
Alex de Large 03-30-2008, 07:40 AM I credit you for being in the military but you come across fairly stupid & your above points (I never mentioned Bush & he is NOT running for re-election) prove you are lacking
Being in the military doesn't make you smarter about politics but it does earn you respect for being there
Ok, I'm in the military AND I have a doctoral degree... now am I smarter?
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