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OH YES

Ya everyone will support it till they realize the price of goods will rise because nothing is going anywhere for a day.

Not sure what to support? Gas prices keep going up, it sucks but striking is not going to help..

Ya everyone will support it till they realize the price of goods will rise because nothing is going anywhere for a day.

Prices are going up because of the high price of fuel, at 4.00 a gal for fuel it cost my company

800.00 dollars when i fuel. My truck get around 5 miles per gallon of fuel, so thats 800 dollars to go

1000 miles ( .80 cents per mile just for fuel plus my wages plus the trucks licence and road tax plus insurance

oh and don't forget maintanance, Hell it costs anywhere between 3 and 5 hundred dollars for 1 tire

depending if its a drive or a steer tire and if you break down out on the road somewhere you get

raped for a road service call ) So yes as long as the price of fuel is high EVERYTHING you buy at the store

will keep going up. Oh and I wish someone could tell me why the price of diesel is almost a dollar

higher than gas, Hmm I don't know but I think it takes less steps to produce diesel than gas....

So shouldn't that mean diesel should be cheaper.................than gas

Our Diesel here in Canada where I live is $4.85 per gallon and you guys are bitching at paying $4.00. Gas is almost as much here as well.

Our Diesel here in Canada where I live is $4.85 per gallon and you guys are bitching at paying $4.00. Gas is almost as much here as well.

Just because when your government rapes you they do double penetration, that doesn't mean w shouldn't be silent because it's only one orifice.

This is one of the weird thing that should have been taken care 7 years ago. If we had invested just 10% of what the whole war on terror and the Iraq mess cost us we would probably be all driving hydrogen cell car or some other form of cheap energy by now! But no lets keep giving the middle east our money they been such good friend to us after all. We need to break the dependency cycle on a resource that controlled by peoples who want to gauge us.

This is one of the weird thing that should have been taken care 7 years ago. If we had invested just 10% of what the whole war on terror and the Iraq mess cost us we would probably be all driving hydrogen cell car or some other form of cheap energy by now! But no lets keep giving the middle east our money they been such good friend to us after all. We need to break the dependency cycle on a resource that controlled by peoples who want to gauge us.
Why does it have to be the government that invents these things??? The government did NOT invent the car or the combustion engine we all use now. The government did NOT invent airplanes. The government did NOT invent gasoline! Private industry did! And they are working on fuel-cell engines (and other tech) right now. We cannot rely on the all-mighty federal government to do anything for us, let alone everything!

no i would not. that shows disrespect to our government and in turn our country. i cannot support something that shows hatred towards the red white and blue. the economy will even out and get better soon. helicopter ben and the federal reserve are doing all they can to fix the current small problems.

Our Diesel here in Canada where I live is $4.85 per gallon and you guys are bitching at paying $4.00. Gas is almost as much here as well.

Well I guess you get to bitch .85 cents worth more than we do.....

no i would not. that shows disrespect to our government and in turn our country. i cannot support something that shows hatred towards the red white and blue. the economy will even out and get better soon. helicopter ben and the federal reserve are doing all they can to fix the current small problems.

How is a truckers strike showing disrespect toword our government or our country?

oh i see what your saying, the oil companys run our government and you don't wanna

disrespect big oil. How many BILLIONS did exxon mobil make in profets last quarter?

Just comes down to the little guy getting stepped on yet again.

And by the way we have the greatest country in the world, but not because of
any government we've had in the last 50 yrs.

Wow some real red neck logic here. Oil companies are increasing the cost of fuel, therefore all truck drivers should stop working. I could understand if the drivers that drove oil/gas/fuel tanker trucks around went on strike. But can someone explain to me how not delivering food, electronics, other retail goods is going to change the cost of fuel?

I love how its the people who've never sat behind the wheel of a truck who know everything about everything... and how striking isn't going to work.

Fuck off. Unless you drive for a living you don't have a say in this fight.

I support the truckers strike.

As an F.T.E. I am in full support of the strike.

As a former FTE I total understand where you are coming from, price of diesel drove me out of trucks. The best job I ever had but the cost of fuel was killing me. We tried that a few times up here in Canada but nothing every seemed to come of the strikes. I throw my hat on your side and hope that it will help.
Sucks when all the big trucking companys have fuel locked at a cheaper price but the small guy is stuck with the crazy price.

How many BILLIONS did exxon mobil make in profets last quarter?
Exxon doesn't owe you a gd thing so what does it matter to you how much they made?

Maybe its time to look at subsidizing professional trucking for fuel costs. There is no arguing the importance these professionals are to making this country run, it takes diesel for this to happen. The trucker’s only weapon to bring attention to what is happening is striking. But have Teamsters brought the issue up before Congress yet?

Based on current world demand on diesel the cost of a gallon will only continue to increase. As everyone knows, an increase in fuel costs translates to higher costs for all retail items.

Taking away taxes on each gallon I feel won’t work, the cost per gallon will out pace any savings offered the trucker. If diesel continues to rise there needs to be some kind of stabilizing pricing system in place.

What is the goal of this strike? To make the federal government take control of fuel pricing? That's in-fucking-sane! I don't want the government in control of the cost of ANYthing!

Why does it have to be the government that invents these things??? The government did NOT invent the car or the combustion engine we all use now. The government did NOT invent airplanes. The government did NOT invent gasoline! Private industry did! And they are working on fuel-cell engines (and other tech) right now. We cannot rely on the all-mighty federal government to do anything for us, let alone everything!

It not the job of the government to invent thing but they could create the right situation for the move to be done if you set a deadline like they finally did for HDTV to stop selling and making new combustion engine thing would get done! That would force the automakers to finally get their shit together and develop the damn thing in a hurry. And yes since it important to the national and economic security of North America our governments should found at least part of it.

If the FTE's go on strike, that will just push Bush and Cheney to let in more trucks from mexico....

I work in the oil/gas industry and it costs the oil companies between$40-$50 to pull a barrel of oil out of the ground and refine it so where is the other$50-$60 a barrel going??? DEEEP into the pockets..

Exxon doesn't owe you a gd thing so what does it matter to you how much they made?

Didn't say they owe me a fuckin thing. But when they put a big green cock in anybody that drives

or uses anything with a diesel motor, then I believe it call price gouging. seeing that it costs less money to produce diesel then gas. So that means there fucking all of us

(price gouging) look it up leachfan then kiss my fucking ass ysf

There is so much hate for America in this thread. If we fail in the War on Terror gas prices won't matter at all. Islamofascists are loving the dissention in the States. It plays right into their freedom hating hands. If we don't finish the jobs in the Middle East, we don't deserve reasonable gas prices.

Gas prices being so high is part of the terrorism, IMO.. The terrorists will bring this country down without firing a bullet.. I wish we could all band together like they do in argentina.. Gas is like 20 cent a gallon over there, and if they try and raise it ONE CENT, nobody in the country will buy gas.. Wish we were able to be like that here..

I usually don't agree with strikes....and this is no exception. You have to wonder how stupid some people are. The price of diesel is what it is. It's because we and China and India are gas guzzling nations. Our gov't has subsidized our cheap gas for decades and now it's coming time for us to pay. Shit, in Europe, they've been paying $6+ /gallon for years. They actually pay what it costs. We Americans are a bunch of whiny bitches because gas is so expensive. Well, if all you stupid motherfuckers out there driving giant SUVs for no reason other than to feel superior to others stopped being so selfish and drove fuel-efficient cars and we stopped expanding more and more into the suburbs, we might be abloe to stop this upward spiral.

Frankly, it's only going to get worse until we all wake the fuck up to our blind consumerism. A truckers strike is just another dumb fucking idea that will do nothing other than piss people off. It sure as fuck won't affect diesel prices..... :rolleyes:

im not sure how this is going to help the ' regular joe's' , ..... so cause gas is expensive for truckers, and me..... they get to stop working to protest, which in turn only causes ME, to pay 5 times as much for bread, and milk, and other crap...... while the politicians, will go and just vote themselves to get a riase, i cant be so lucky.....

thanks ftes

I work in the oil/gas industry and it costs the oil companies between$40-$50 to pull a barrel of oil out of the ground and refine it so where is the other$50-$60 a barrel going??? DEEEP into the pockets..

A few things:

If you work in the oil and gas industry (like I do), you should know that the oil companies are also putting more money into exploration and production than ever.

Also, there is a shortage of refineries in this country and the tree-hugging libs haven't let any oil companies build a refinery since the seventies. They have also forced those companies to spend too much money on upgrading existing refineries for environmental reasons.

Last but not least. Where were all you bleedin heart socialists in the eighties when oil companies were going bankrupt and people in the oil industry(like my family) were losing their jobs left and right.

I support the strike on a moral and philosophical basis, but the harsh reality is that a strike does more eventual harm than good to the trucker's causes. In truth, there's no one (well, almost no one) who doesn't understand the problems, but making "Joe Sixpack" late for work isn't going to win anyone any friends.

In any economic shift there are winners and losers. Cheap gas/cheap transportation helped Walmart import everything from China and killed many industries that were once vibrant in America. It was awful hard to compete with Asia when they worked for free and the freight from China to the local stores was near free. When the freight becomes not so free, maybe just maybe there is a chance at fairer trade.

High gas prices hurt truckers no doubt, but the higher the transportation costs are per mile the more it makes local products more price competitive. I see some hope in a resurgence of American manufacturing and agriculture, and sorry truckers, but I'd take that trade off all day long for the health of the economy.

Gas prices being so high is part of the terrorism, IMO.. The terrorists will bring this country down without firing a bullet.. I wish we could all band together like they do in argentina.. Gas is like 20 cent a gallon over there, and if they try and raise it ONE CENT, nobody in the country will buy gas.. Wish we were able to be like that here..

Gas is higher so these companies can make money so every gd mutual fund doesn't go belly up while the country has a fire sale with the dollar. The difference is that Big Oil figures this is a good time to open up local oilfields that are protected and the government isn't budging on this so the already elevated price is being slightly gouged by Big Oil.

I love the people who think it is the oil companies fault prices are high. They can not control the price in any way, shape or form. It is bought and sold on the fucking commodities market. You want to blame anyone blame the fucking traders and analysts.

And yes no one bitches when the oil companies are losing money when oil is traded at $20 a barrel. Quit your fucking whining and cut back on driving if you want prices to lower. Less demand=lower prices. Blame the Chinese and Indians if you want since they are the ones sucking down more oil than they used to. Demand is up for oil and supply is tight. Basic economics tells us this.

yes i would and do im a fte in ca. but doing what was done in chicago for a few hrs. wont do a thing we need to just shut down for a week go home spend time with the family. maybe then though i doubt it somepeople might just wake up.

yes i would and do im a fte in ca. but doing what was done in chicago for a few hrs. wont do a thing we need to just shut down for a week go home spend time with the family. maybe then though i doubt it somepeople might just wake up.

That would drop demand on diesel for one week. Then demand would be back to the same level or greater the following week. So diesel may drop a few cents for a week, but probably not due to the market powers that be on the stock exchange, commodities market, would know all about it and keep the status quo. It all has to do with the traders, nothing to do with corporations or the Federal Government.

Understanding the market is what is needed. Too many people think that the President or OPEC or the Governments of any Nation have any control what so ever of Fuel/Oil prices. They don't.

And your little plan would actually hurt more than help. There would be price spikes in other areas due to shortages of all things that travel by truck.

Yeah that strike thing worked out well. The public ALREADY hates trucks, so hold up traffic and make it worse....For what??

You guys looked like idiots, dirty, homeless looking, idiots on television. Thanks for helping out the industry image!

Don't beg for help, man up and deal with it yourself!

I am ashamed to admit I am in the same business as these dopes!!!!

My trucks DO NOT leave my yard unless I know they are going to make money!!!! A PROFIT!!!!!

Buy a fucking calculator and do the math!!! Don't haul cheap freight and MAYBE you would not be in this postition!!!!

Better yet, go park your shitboxes....it is not anybody elses problem that you are not good businessmen!!!!

You are my competition and I have zero sympathy.

I love the people who think it is the oil companies fault prices are high. They can not control the price in any way, shape or form. It is bought and sold on the fucking commodities market. You want to blame anyone blame the fucking traders and analysts.

And yes no one bitches when the oil companies are losing money when oil is traded at $20 a barrel. Quit your fucking whining and cut back on driving if you want prices to lower. Less demand=lower prices. Blame the Chinese and Indians if you want since they are the ones sucking down more oil than they used to. Demand is up for oil and supply is tight. Basic economics tells us this.

Wow! Someone with a brain! Thank you for adding some TRUTH to this thread! :bwtd:

It's not just the fucking truckers who get hit in the pocket with the rising gas prices but it's also the regular working guy like me who drives 1000 miles a week who's affected by gas prices. But the only difference is I'm not retarded enough to think that me and all of my fellow sales people going on strike would impact gas prices.

Bubba and the people supporting this trucker strike are obviously oblivious to the way the market works. Like Exxon will be impacted by a bunch of idiot truckers driving 45 MPH in Irving one day. :rolleyes: This whole fucking thing is stupid.

Wow! Someone with a brain! Thank you for adding some TRUTH to this thread! :bwtd:

The problem with this line of thinking is that at the same time oil is hitting record highs, oil and gas companies are making record profits. If the costs involved in producing gas, and the price of gas itself, rose in unison, the oil company profits would remain fairly constant, not soaring to never-before seen levels...

I'm not against them (the oil and gas companies) making money - but there should be controls to prevent the current profiteering that we are seeing.

Also, it takes about 3 months for crude to become the refined gas spewing from the local pump, therefore the rise in crude oil prices today shouldn't actually show up at the pumps until 3 months from now; not 3 hours from now.

CdnFirefighter...

The problem with this line of thinking is that at the same time oil is hitting record highs, oil and gas companies are making record profits. If the costs involved in producing gas, and the price of gas itself, rose in unison, the oil company profits would remain fairly constant, not soaring to never-before seen levels...

I'm not against them (the oil and gas companies) making money - but there should be controls to prevent the current profiteering that we are seeing.

Also, it takes about 3 months for crude to become the refined gas spewing from the local pump, therefore the rise in crude oil prices today shouldn't actually show up at the pumps until 3 months from now; not 3 hours from now.

CdnFirefighter...

You are correct, but like the rest of the stock market it is based on Speculation! Also just to make your point OIL is a futures based market so it is bought and sold months ahead of time as well. Also note though that gas has not risen with the price of oil so the refineries are also not making as much money. The price to pump oil out of the ground is a set price, say $18 a barrel, so there is where all the profit comes from. But the traders are also making money as well.

If you research you will also note that oil and gas are traded in USD, so as the dollar falls the price of oil rises. You can blame the Fed for that one as well. The Government is more to blame for this that the oil companies, well the economy is to blame. The Fed keeps lowering rates to keep inflation in check but as they do this the dollar weakens. It will be a long time before we see sub $50 oil again or $2.00 gas.

Hella Yes....

Id join that convoy

:bigup:

There is so much hate for America in this thread. If we fail in the War on Terror gas prices won't matter at all. Islamofascists are loving the dissention in the States. It plays right into their freedom hating hands. If we don't finish the jobs in the Middle East, we don't deserve reasonable gas prices.

I really hope you're being a sarcastic troll... because if you are, good job. You fooled me. If not, you shouldn't be allowed to vote in the next election because if you beleive the BULLSHIT thats rushing from your mouth; its obvious you're too fucking STUPID to form an opinion. You just rattled off everything that Fox News has been spewing for the last 5 years.

Silly me though, I thought we actually had to declare a war on a specific country. Not an ideaology... I mean the last great republican "War" was... The War on Drugs! Thats going smashing isn't it? And before that I believe it was the Cold War we were involved with. Another great idea... lets buy more nukes than our enemy so we can blast them all to hell and back.

It all boils down to this: If you don't have a million dollars you don't need to be a republican. Sure they'll tell you that they want you to be a Republican, because they're for American Values (Big Business getting all the fucking breaks and sticking it to the middle class), Classic American Morals (Kill the fags and nizigs and jizews and just have lovely christian people... who go fuck the kids behind their parents backs), and most importantly... They love this country.

Republicans want control of the government so they and their sleezebag fucking buddies (Read: Savings & Loan Bailout) can get in charge of whatever's making the most money, swindle it all and then bail out at the last possible second before the next president steps in. They're fucking slime balls. They're the lowest form of scum on this earth. They don't give two fucks about you or your family. They just want to sell you a whole lot of shit that you don't need, so they can make as much money as possible.

i would

The problem with this line of thinking is that at the same time oil is hitting record highs, oil and gas companies are making record profits. If the costs involved in producing gas, and the price of gas itself, rose in unison, the oil company profits would remain fairly constant, not soaring to never-before seen levels...

I'm not against them (the oil and gas companies) making money - but there should be controls to prevent the current profiteering that we are seeing.

Also, it takes about 3 months for crude to become the refined gas spewing from the local pump, therefore the rise in crude oil prices today shouldn't actually show up at the pumps until 3 months from now; not 3 hours from now.

CdnFirefighter...
Wrong. It's all about profit vs. profit margin. Let's say you sell "widgets." It costs you 92 cents to make a widget, and you sell the widget for a dollar. You make eight cents on the sale of that widget. Your profit is eight cents – your profit margin is 8%. Now, let's say that your cost of business, comprised mostly of raw materials, goes up. Now it costs you $1.84 to make a widget. You respond by raising the price of your widgets by a dollar. They now cost $2.00 each. Subtract your cost of doing business ($1.84) from sales revenues for one widget ($2.00) and you have a profit of 16 cents. Wow! Your profit has doubled! But wait! What is your profit margin? How much is your company making for every widget it sells? Nothing has changed. Your profit margin is still 8%. Profits have doubled .. the profit margin has remained the same. The only reason the profits doubled is that the price of your raw materials has gone up. Has anyone looked at the price of crude oil lately?

Last year the big five oil companies made around $123 billion in profits. Pretty strong. But what was their profit margin? Around 9%. Same as the year before and the year before that. The politicians can't pander to the dumb masses by slamming profit margins ... so they play the dishonest game of slamming the gross profits, and the media lets them skate. They start talking about "windfall" profits. Tell me ... how is it a windfall profit when the profit margin is remaining effectively the same? Some windfall.

I really hope you're being a sarcastic troll... because if you are, good job. You fooled me. If not, you shouldn't be allowed to vote in the next election because if you beleive the BULLSHIT thats rushing from your mouth; its obvious you're too fucking STUPID to form an opinion. You just rattled off everything that Fox News has been spewing for the last 5 years.

Silly me though, I thought we actually had to declare a war on a specific country. Not an ideaology... I mean the last great republican "War" was... The War on Drugs! Thats going smashing isn't it? And before that I believe it was the Cold War we were involved with. Another great idea... lets buy more nukes than our enemy so we can blast them all to hell and back.

It all boils down to this: If you don't have a million dollars you don't need to be a republican. Sure they'll tell you that they want you to be a Republican, because they're for American Values (Big Business getting all the fucking breaks and sticking it to the middle class), Classic American Morals (Kill the fags and nizigs and jizews and just have lovely christian people... who go fuck the kids behind their parents backs), and most importantly... They love this country.

Republicans want control of the government so they and their sleezebag fucking buddies (Read: Savings & Loan Bailout) can get in charge of whatever's making the most money, swindle it all and then bail out at the last possible second before the next president steps in. They're fucking slime balls. They're the lowest form of scum on this earth. They don't give two fucks about you or your family. They just want to sell you a whole lot of shit that you don't need, so they can make as much money as possible.
Wow! What a moron! :burst:

I truly feel bad for our nation's truckers. They provide an invaluable service to us that most don't appreciate or realize. I'm not a trucker, but I know quite a few who this fuel bullshit is really hitting hard. Some of them have decided to quit trucking for the time being because they LOSE money for each haul.

From what I've read, the strike is to force the feds' hand and get them to drop all federal & state taxes for a short time until the economy straightens out.

Good luck, I say. Things are only going to get worse!

No, of course not! I drive to construction sites all over the state of georgia- anybody going to support my strike because i have to fill up every few days?

Its the price of doing business- if you can't make a living at your business, your choice is to change jobs. If no one wants to drive a truck because you can't make a living, then things will have to change. The laws of supply and demand.

I support the FTE's 100%. Something needs to be done about this booshit ass gas prices....

I really hope you're being a sarcastic troll... because if you are, good job. You fooled me. If not, you shouldn't be allowed to vote in the next election because if you beleive the BULLSHIT thats rushing from your mouth; its obvious you're too fucking STUPID to form an opinion. You just rattled off everything that Fox News has been spewing for the last 5 years.

Silly me though, I thought we actually had to declare a war on a specific country. Not an ideaology... I mean the last great republican "War" was... The War on Drugs! Thats going smashing isn't it? And before that I believe it was the Cold War we were involved with. Another great idea... lets buy more nukes than our enemy so we can blast them all to hell and back.

It all boils down to this: If you don't have a million dollars you don't need to be a republican. Sure they'll tell you that they want you to be a Republican, because they're for American Values (Big Business getting all the fucking breaks and sticking it to the middle class), Classic American Morals (Kill the fags and nizigs and jizews and just have lovely christian people... who go fuck the kids behind their parents backs), and most importantly... They love this country.

Republicans want control of the government so they and their sleezebag fucking buddies (Read: Savings & Loan Bailout) can get in charge of whatever's making the most money, swindle it all and then bail out at the last possible second before the next president steps in. They're fucking slime balls. They're the lowest form of scum on this earth. They don't give two fucks about you or your family. They just want to sell you a whole lot of shit that you don't need, so they can make as much money as possible.

:bigclap: :bigclap:

When the sheep finally figuare it out..... hopefully it won't be to late...

Wow! What a moron! :burst:

And you're a George Bush supporter.

I'd much rather be a moron than a Bush cronie. :D

And you're a George Bush supporter.

I'd much rather be a moron than a Bush cronie. :D
Cool! I heard all the "Bush Cronies" are millionaires! Actually, I have a problem with much of what Bush has done running the country. But thanks for playing.

Cool! I heard all the "Bush Cronies" are millionaires! Actually, I have a problem with much of what Bush has done running the country. But thanks for playing.


And yet the Democrats are idiots for wanting to do the complete opposite of what Bush has done? If its this bad the way Bush is doing it, how is it going to be any worse if Clinton or Obama get the job?

And yet the Democrats are idiots for wanting to do the complete opposite of what Bush has done? If its this bad the way Bush is doing it, how is it going to be any worse if Clinton or Obama get the job?
Higher taxes and mandatory health insurance mainly. The other things the republicans are supposed to stand for are out the window these days.

Higher taxes and mandatory health insurance mainly. The other things the republicans are supposed to stand for are out the window these days.

Well i'm really sorry you're in the tax bracket thats had it easier than the rest of us for the last couple of years, but your time's up. Clinton mandates health insurance. Obama's plan makes it affordable enough so that everyone can purchase it if they want.

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Don't matter if we support it or not , it is up to our government to fix it and we just need to do what we have to to survive. What are we going to do stop eating and driving to work ? Yea that will fix it.

id support them watch the money grubbing managers of stores panic when they lose profit

YES! I would support them.

We are getting fucked in the ass by the price of fuels. It needs to change asap!

The prices of everything we buy is going through the roof. We need to take a stand in order for it to change.

id support them watch the money grubbing managers of stores panic when they lose profit
Now whatever anyone thinks about the profits of the oil companies and the arabs that sell the oil, the stores do NOT make great profit! It's something like 7 cents for each gallon sold. WTF?