I wont pretend how to manage corporate America, since that is not my area of professionalism (hint).

The disrespect shown today was out of bounds. It's not only a rip towards the BRN, but a direct rip to us fans as well. What do the guys have to do to be treated with a mutual respect? I don't listen to ANYONE talk to me like that. Why would anyone else? The show has proven itself as a top ratings getter on both formats recently. After the big talk when the execs showed up some time ago, the crew has been nothing but supportive and positive towards the deal. Off the record at Bubbapalooza, nothing but more positive vibes on Sirius and the future with them. We're you listening today? Nothing but positive speak, and dumped. Those were questions from the FANS, the ones that pay their monthly subscriptions. We're fortunate enough that the brn allows such fan access. Thanks for throwing a big fucking roadblock in that after a 10 month hiatus. If I had to listen to a boss, wife, or anyone else that spoke to me and treated me that way.....the door couldn't hit them in the ass fast enough.

I am fortunate enough to have a pretty kick ass job that allows me to spend a ton of time listening to the radio. For the first four months of the year, I listened to both shows EVERY day. Notice I am rarely ever on these boards anymore? I bought a house, remodeling, and had other things that took some time. So, I had to make a choice. Since the newfound apparent respect had been given, the Sirius show was great. I had to make a choice of which one I was going to listen to daily. I chose Sirius. Why? That's a good question. Is it cheaper? No, it's 13+ a month. Is it easier? Fuck no, the top of the line receiver with all of the bells and whistles is a non-working piece of shit. I am streaming online right now since the pile of shit can't seem to work as designed. This is my third stiletto, by the way. Some bullshit with all of them. The AM show is much easier to get, and listen to at my leisure. Guess what? The content is as good, if not better. This isn't a threat by any means. I am not some opie and anthony ass threatening to smash my receiver........I am just beginning to have a very hard time justifying all the time, money, and bullshit when the AM show is free, equal content, and easier to get.

The total disrespect towards the guys, their fans, and everything else is at a boiling point. Fucking sick of it.

how dare you tim? So much for pay radio. You corporate people never actually done radio (on air) an now your telling someone how to produce there show. You guys are losers an really appreciate you screwing my day up.upon so mad how you treat bubba I really am. So disrespectful an now you pulling him off air. LOL hell the morning show doesnt treat him as bad as you do you corporate ass hole.

What does corporate expect, Bubba is a shock jock. It is in his blood to not take any shit from the suits when they attack him. Howard has had epic battles with this, and it looks like he won

I wont pretend how to manage corporate America, since that is not my area of professionalism (hint).

The disrespect shown today was out of bounds. It's not only a rip towards the BRN, but a direct rip to us fans as well. What do the guys have to do to be treated with a mutual respect? I don't listen to ANYONE talk to me like that. Why would anyone else? The show has proven itself as a top ratings getter on both formats recently. After the big talk when the execs showed up some time ago, the crew has been nothing but supportive and positive towards the deal. Off the record at Bubbapalooza, nothing but more positive vibes on Sirius and the future with them. We're you listening today? Nothing but positive speak, and dumped. Those were questions from the FANS, the ones that pay their monthly subscriptions. We're fortunate enough that the brn allows such fan access. Thanks for throwing a big fucking roadblock in that after a 10 month hiatus. If I had to listen to a boss, wife, or anyone else that spoke to me and treated me that way.....the door couldn't hit them in the ass fast enough.

I am fortunate enough to have a pretty kick ass job that allows me to spend a ton of time listening to the radio. For the first four months of the year, I listened to both shows EVERY day. Notice I am rarely ever on these boards anymore? I bought a house, remodeling, and had other things that took some time. So, I had to make a choice. Since the newfound apparent respect had been given, the Sirius show was great. I had to make a choice of which one I was going to listen to daily. I chose Sirius. Why? That's a good question. Is it cheaper? No, it's 13+ a month. Is it easier? Fuck no, the top of the line receiver with all of the bells and whistles is a non-working piece of shit. I am streaming online right now since the pile of shit can't seem to work as designed. This is my third stiletto, by the way. Some bullshit with all of them. The AM show is much easier to get, and listen to at my leisure. Guess what? The content is as good, if not better. This isn't a threat by any means. I am not some opie and anthony ass threatening to smash my receiver........I am just beginning to have a very hard time justifying all the time, money, and bullshit when the AM show is free, equal content, and easier to get.

The total disrespect towards the guys, their fans, and everything else is at a boiling point. Fucking sick of it.

Agreed

The fact that the Sirius execs came down, to personally look at and check out the operations Bubba had in Tampa, should be just a little hint to Tim that Bubba is for real. Just listening to the show, and hearing how people who were formally Howard fans, call in and say how they feel Bubba is doing a better job than Howard and how they like listening to Bubba more, should show Tim that he needs to shut up and stop interfering with the channels. There is a reason that HOWARD not TIM wanted to hire Bubba. Fuck you Tim you dumb shit. YOU FAIL

tim sucks howards dick an has no one to pick on so uses bubba as his punching bag

Nice to see the boys really have the respect of Sirius corporate nowadays... I can't FUCKING believe this is starting all over again!

See ya Bubba and crew after this year, I sure as fuck wouldn't come back to that once I could get out. Thanks for the great times while they lasted.

I'm not even really able to listen to Howard anymore. I love Howard's show, but my schedule doesn't give me free mornings at all. Fact is, I came to Sirius FOR Bubba and since I can't enjoy Howard anymore, I've pretty much decided after today's fucking BULLSHIT fiasco that if Bubba goes, so do I. It's not a "threat" or whatever. Tim and all you guys can run your fucking company however you want. That's your business and surely we paying customers shouldn't be telling you what to do, right? I just gotta do what I gotta do. I'm not paying for censorship. Period. I'm especially not paying to listen to Bubba and the boys get treated like fucking children. "To protect them from themselves." Yeah, right. That's what parents tell their kids when they don't have a real reason for shit. Fuck you, buddy.

OMG, I haven't heard the last 2 hours of the show. I'm not looking forward to this.

Mutt is in Sirius HQ right now, Bubba should get him on the phone and tell him to go punch Tim in his round mouth :o

Tim

I listened to show in the hopes of getting to hear alot of answer to questions the fans/listeners wanted to know about the show which alot of us have grown to love. the dumping of the answers while they were maybe a taboo for sirius rules of conduct, were truthful and handled in no way i thought to disrespect sirius in anyway, they never came across as such to myself. When you finally called in, talking to bubba in that way was totally uncalled for, you talked to him in a totally un professional manor, if he wanted to talk on the air it wasnt only for bubba but also for the listeners to know why a radio company like sirius which has proclaimed anything goes/no dumping right from when howard was signed to sirius and still on fm, dumped him.

now bubba is coming across as not wanting to do anything that will be dumped and thats no way to run his show, he loves his listeners and wants the best radio listening experience for them. that in part is your fault from what transpired on the show today and its bullshit.

i missed the show but have it recorded...what time did all this bs go down?

OMG, I haven't heard the last 2 hours of the show. I'm not looking forward to this.


Modern day Showcase Showdown.

Of course my stiletto didn't record it as it was scheduled, and supposed to. I ran right back in the room as the crap was already underway.....I was late back from the break. If anyone has an iggy on the recording, please PM me.

I'm sorry.....I'd planned to write a well written post, but it didn't come out as well as planned. Cliffs notes are: Even in Ohio the AM show is easier to get. I pay the $13+ a month just for bubba, and am having a very hard time justifying all the trouble with equipment to make this format my daily choice. No one should be spoken to like that. In essence, Howard leaving terrestrial for satellite left a huge void that assbags like Opie and Anthony cannot fill. Bubba has proven time, and time again that he can get the job done. Tim and company are lighting a fuse they don't want to light. If they knew how to work, they'd pay him what he needs to stay on Sirius, and not be the competition that will bury them.

Everyone on SIRIUS talks allot about no censorship and no bullshit, NOW HOW ABOUT SHOWING ME SOME OF BOTH!! :mad: I think that Tim was way out of line but so was Bubba. Learn how to work kid.

Say what you will, I think Bubba was very restrained on the phone with Tim.

I heard it and it is the same shit they would pull on terristeral radio. I have two radios and I paying 20 a month for this bullshit. It just seems like sirius only cares about howard and everybody else, "WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT!"

Dear Tim,

I'm sure you feel that, when Bubba leaves and takes his audience with him, he will be replaced by somebody who will bring in his own set of fans. Perhaps that's the case. However, that fails to meet the definition of "growth," and I assume that Sirius is looking to grow its company in any way possible, even as it slides further into debt.

I realize that your intentions are good. You were trying to protect not just Bubba but also your brand. However, I think that the way the situation has escalated to this point is beyond ridiculous. You should never have put so many walls up around Bubba and his show. You should know that your listeners are both intelligent and dedicated - I doubt you will find anybody who does not know that Bubba is working in regular radio now, but I doubt you'll find a single fan who'd choose FM over Sirius. If a fan can listen to both, he or she will, but if he can't, then they seem to be choosing Sirius.

Besides, if you are so concerned with losing listeners who figure out that they can get Bubba for free, then perhaps you should work harder to ensure that you lose no listeners at all by keeping Bubba at Sirius. Seems like a very simple solution to me, and it seems like your execs aren't looking at things logically. You seem to be taking a mixed approach, telling Bubba that what he does is bad, that he's not worth the trouble, that you wouldn't lose listeners if he left, that he's not financially viable for you, and at the same time you are telling Bubba that he is not to say a single clear thing about his "other situation," as Sirius would risk losing listeners if people knew they could freely get something they are paying for. Well, is it one, or the other? If Bubba brings nothing to the company, then what do you have to lose by letting him be honest? If Bubba's services are valuable and important, then what do you lose by treating him with the respect that you treat Howard?

I wish you the best with your work situation. I have a feeling this will be a tough year for everybody. I want you to know that I will continue to subscribe to Sirius for the remainder of '08, but the moment Bubba goes, I go with him. I have trouble showing support for a company that has such disrespect for not just its talent, but for its subscribers. Your mangling of Bubba's content effects us, much as the restrictions you placed on him to begin with insults us.

I have worked in companies like Sirius, and the atmosphere is destructive and unhealthy. I hope you can clean up your executives before they cost you the company all together. Good luck, goodbye.

*slow clap*

Tim is nothing but a low life, fat, shit-head who should be fired by Howard Monday morning at the 7:00 hour, then replay the hell out of it. If Bubba goes, (AND THIS IS A THREAT SIRIUS THAT BUBBA ASK ME NOT TO DO, BUT FUCK YOU CENSOR-NAZIS BASTARDS) then stop asking me to buy more radios and supporting this company. I will sign up for the next satellite company that looks at your fuck-ups, listens to their subscribers, and give us the programming we want, and not what they think we should hear!

tim sucks howards dick an has no one to pick on so uses bubba as his punching bag Edit: My apologies to "DaMan"...I misunderstood your statement. Sorry about that. :beer:

Amen and amen......let's all remember 1 thing....if Tim Sabien was a programming genius as he would have us believe......he'd STILL be at CBS making more money than I KNOW he's making at Sirius.

Once a hack...always a hack.....fuck you Sabien.

Why the fuck when something goes wrong on Bubba's Sirius Show is Howard made out to be the bad guy? Remember that as Bubba has said many times, if Howard wanted to there would be no more BRN, terrestrial or satellite. Howard resurrected the BRN from yet another radio show never to be heard again. So why would Howard either intentional or unintentional sabotage Bubba?

Are you crazy? Nobody said or implied that Howard is the bad guy in all this. All that guy was saying was that Tim sucks Howards dick and does anything Howard says while treating Bubba and crew like assholes. How is that blaming Howard?

wtf did they dump? it sounds like bubba was about to mark out to his fans??
the term OVER THINKERS is the truth!!!!!!

I was on the train when this all went down and didn't hear, can someone post a brief recap of what got the fight started and what got dumped? I tuned into Mutt's show and a caller made it sound like shit got dumped after bubba brought up his terrestrial show.

I thought satellite radio was uncensored...today I realized that I was dead wrong!!! Isn’t this the reason I pay money every month? So I don’t have to deal with the BULL SHIT of regular radio. If any programs continue to get censored I’m canceling my two radios and my premium internet service! I hope someone from Sirius reads this cause I hope they tell everyone in the building that HOWARD IS NOW and BUBBA IS THE FUTURE OF SIRIUS!! Sirius has to think differently as a company, they have a great angle “Uncensored talk” stick this and you will have loyal customers for many more years.
Bubba has many loyal fans and as one, I can say that if Sirius doesn’t take care of one their top talents (even if they don’t want to admit it) then my $35 per month is no longer going to Sirius.
Thanks for your time

I was on the train when this all went down and didn't hear, can someone post a brief recap of what got the fight started and what got dumped? I tuned into Mutt's show and a caller made it sound like shit got dumped after bubba brought up his terrestrial show.


it sounded like bubba was about to mark out to his sirius fans and got dumped...

BUBBA: the only reason why I came back to sirius was... DUMP::


over thinkers.mp3 - 0.24MB (http://www.zshare.net/audio/12796842e197ffb7/)

Are you crazy? Nobody said or implied that Howard is the bad guy in all this. All that guy was saying was that Tim sucks Howards dick and does anything Howard says while treating Bubba and crew like assholes. How is that blaming Howard?

Edit: My apologies to "DaMan"...I misunderstood your statement. Sorry about that. :beer:

I didn't hear it but if Tim cut off Bubba it has nothing to do with Tim, it means a higher up has given Tim his orders and they will cut Tim a new asshole should he not follow them. Tim pushes the shit downstream, he has no choice.

The way Bubba was treated by the upper execs during the contract negotiations, he can fight with Tim all he wants, it won't help. Someone higher up the exec food chain (not Howard) has decided it is Ok to fuck with Bubba and damn the consequences. Fans voicing their opinion does not help either. Bubba needs to find out who that is. A quiet, discreet, off the record convo with Howard with assurances that the name or the convo will never be revealed might at least give Bubba the info as to who the higher up is that is fucking with Bubba. Without that info, Bubba is always fighting in the dark.

LMAO...looks like someone had a talk with MUTT...there was a big thread about this topic in the stern forum and its gone...

FUCK THIS SHIT!!!!!! No more bullshit, my ass! I'm so sick of the way the Sirius execs and Tim "The Dope" Sabien pull as much corporate bullshit and censorship as we got on Terrestrial. STOP BULLSHITTING THE FANS, TIM!!!!

Getting harder and harder to justify the money each month for this crap.

LMAO...looks like someone had a talk with MUTT...there was a big thread about this topic in the stern forum and its gone...

Big shocker.

If it's in Bubba's contract not to talk about certain things, then he has to maintain some degree of professionalism and honor his contract.

LMAO...looks like someone had a talk with MUTT...there was a big thread about this topic in the stern forum and its gone...
I think it may have had something to do with all the people trashing Bubba and his show in that thread.

blah blah blah....

Tim may be the roundmouth for the corporate executives, BUT ALL OF THEM SHOULD HEAR OUR VOICE! The thing about a capitalist country, is that the consumers can hire and fire at will! Tom should be fired for his actions. If he did not want this public, he could have hung up BEFORE THE CALL WENT ON THE AIR!!

blah blah blah....
:rolleyes:

Sorry, I couldn't resist. ;)

Tim may be the roundmouth for the corporate executives, BUT ALL OF THEM SHOULD HEAR OUR VOICE! The thing about a capitalist country, is that the consumers can hire and fire at will! Tom should be fired for his actions. If he did not want this public, he could have hung up BEFORE THE CALL WENT ON THE AIR!! In the words of Manson, "We're going to run Sirius like this and what are you going to do about it???"

plain disrespectfull to our boys,shitty :mad:

I have 4 radios, the day the cancel Bubba Ill have 0! Thats fucking Bullshit really wish I didn't just buy that stiletto

Dear Tim,
I guess i will be cancelling my 7 radios at the end of the year when bubba leaves. Hell,maybe i'll just cancel now. I dont appreciate being lied to about uncencered radio. FUCK YOU Tim Sabean!!!!!

I don't see what the big deal is. Sirius told Bubba not to talk about his morning terrestrial gig. Sirius was nice enough to give Bubba exception to their policy of having exclusive rights to a performer. The least Bubba can do is respect Sirius' wishes.

Man, how the times at SIRIUS have changed since 2006 when Howard came over and Bubba started. "Join the Revolution" my ass. The "revolution" has become a dictatorship run by suits and lawyers. Not the censor free radio I originally bought into. Disappointed isn't even the word for the way the show has been forced to change and how Bubba and the listeners have been treated. SHITTY at best. Bubba said SIRIUS censors him more than the FCC. He may be right.

"No More Bullshit" LOLOL what a crock! Fuck Sirius Mgmt. :mad:

Any professional would know not to make the phone call Tim made to Bubba, especially on air. Tim showed a total lack of self control. Bubba is an on air personality, confronting him like he choose to do was Tim’s decision, no one else’s. Tim did not have to call Bubba when he did, but when he did he decided to take a position of a door slamming corporate suit.

Composure Tim, you lost it, in front of a few hundred thousand listeners. Whatever you were trying to achieve it was lost. You more than likely have done more damage than you know. Hopefully you will take a few moments and read through the posts here, it’s not just the listeners you have let down, but Sirius.

Tim insists that he was protecting Bubba from himself. How he handled that phone call with Bubba was piss-poor, but he may have had Bubba's best interests at heart. We don't know the details - the DETAILS - of what was dumped and why.

I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt here, for now.

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Man, how the times at SIRIUS have changed since 2006 when Howard came over and Bubba started. "Join the Revolution" my ass. The "revolution" has become a dictatorship run by suits and lawyers. Not the censor free radio I originally bought into. Disappointed isn't even the word for the way the show has been forced to change and how Bubba and the listeners have been treated. SHITTY at best. Bubba said SIRIUS censors him more than the FCC. He may be right.

It is a sad day when lawyers are running The shit i listen to.When howard goes i go..If they get rid of Bubba I will have to boycott buying anymore products...Got my shit when The King came here with HIS Prince Bubba..Let The crazziness reign..Long live FREE SPEECH! :D

I missed the blow out but it sounds pretty shitty!!!! Tuned in after they came back on the air and everybody was freaked out. I really hope this whole shit storm that sirius unleashes on BTLS is back again till the end of his deal????

listening to tim got me so pissed... when it comes to dealing with talent tim is supposed to display a certain level of professionalism and respect, even if he doesn't feel it's deserving, ESPECIALLY when it's on the air! instead, he condescendingly spoke to bubba and ultimately let his managerial skills become overtaken by his emotions, a very unprofessional display of authority, worthy of an on air apology to bubba and the listeners!

What a bunch of bull shit. When Bubba leaves so do my 4 radios. I don't understand the big deal talking about the other show. Do they think we are stupid and don't know he has a show on free FM. You can go to his website and see everything. Fuck Sirius for censoring pay radio.

I hope that cooler heads will prevail and that Bubba's show is not fucked-up or fucked with in any way. I've really come to love the show and hope that it doesn't end in this way. I got to think that if the SIRIUS suits could "look the other way" in the Artie vs Teddie fiasco that this should be no big deal. But what do I know?

I don't see what the big deal is. Sirius told Bubba not to talk about his morning terrestrial gig. Sirius was nice enough to give Bubba exception to their policy of having exclusive rights to a performer. The least Bubba can do is respect Sirius' wishes.

BTLS before Sirius rescued his unemployable ass = Bubba who?

Now suddenly without Bubba everyone is threatening to cancel? Nice show of loyalty.

Tim is the new pig vomit.

He should be fired for the way he talked to bubba on the radio today.

FUCK TIM and FUCK SIRIUS!! The show is such Bullshit watered down crap, I might as well cancel SIRIUS and listen to the lame ass BOB and TOM show. To quote BUBBA FUCK THIS PLACE, IT'S BULLSHIT, I'M OUTTA HERE!

I can't say I've ever been a huge Bubba fan. Listened off and on, found some of their stuff great, other times not so much. (Same thing for Howard really.)

But this... this is bullshit. I came over to Siruis SPECIFICALLY so I didn't have to listen to shows chopped up by dump buttons.

The whole 'protecting Bubba from himself' argument is bullshit. If there are topics that Bubba can't discuss, I'm pretty sure he knows what they are, and what the consequences are. Let him say whatever he wants to say, and if he crosses lines, deal with it then.

DON'T DUMP MY RADIO. IF I WANTED THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER COME TO SIRIUS.

If Howard doesn't chew Sabian's ass for this, and demand an on-air apology DIRECTLY to Bubba, with assurances this won't happen ever again, my 5 radios are off for good. I refuse to pay for the same bullshit radio management I could be getting for nothing.

CORRECTION.... I hope sirius does NOT scew with BTLS till the end of his deal!!

Tim is the new pig vomit.

He should be fired for the way he talked to bubba on the radio today.
Funny. After hearing that call, that scene from Private Parts came to mind. "Why'd you take me off the air Pig Vomit?" :jj:

The whole situation with Sirius is pissing me off. I realize that there are standards of conduct in any company.. But I am paying for censor free radio. Period. The best thing that these guys (corporate) could do, is realize that even the "over the top" drama, good or bad, peaks my attention. What the hell are you asking for when it comes to advertisers? LISTENERS! I would have been much more satisfied to have heard the "dump" and a heated conversation between Bubba and Tim than the b/s we heard. Tim needs to learn how to work. It may be uncomfortable, but can't these assholes figure out that this is what we want to hear? Honest, straightforward conversations with no censor involved and the truth about these performers' thoughts and processes!!!

Bubba goes, I go. Even though I love Howard's show, I would cancel just to make a point!!

If Howard doesn't chew Sabian's ass for this, and demand an on-air apology DIRECTLY to Bubba, with assurances this won't happen ever again, my 5 radios are off for good. I refuse to pay for the same bullshit radio management I could be getting for nothing.

The first part should & will happen IMO
The second is not Howards place to do. If Tim apologizes it won't be bc Howard made him & shouldn't be.

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I can't say I've ever been a huge Bubba fan. Listened off and on, found some of their stuff great, other times not so much. (Same thing for Howard really.)

But this... this is bullshit. I came over to Siruis SPECIFICALLY so I didn't have to listen to shows chopped up by dump buttons.

The whole 'protecting Bubba from himself' argument is bullshit. If there are topics that Bubba can't discuss, I'm pretty sure he knows what they are, and what the consequences are. Let him say whatever he wants to say, and if he crosses lines, deal with it then.

DON'T DUMP MY RADIO. IF I WANTED THAT I WOULD HAVE NEVER COME TO SIRIUS.

If Howard doesn't chew Sabian's ass for this, and demand an on-air apology DIRECTLY to Bubba, with assurances this won't happen ever again, my 5 radios are off for good. I refuse to pay for the same bullshit radio management I could be getting for nothing.

:D SPEAK THE TRUTH BROTHER! :mad:

BTLS before Sirius rescued his unemployable ass = Bubba who?

Now suddenly without Bubba everyone is threatening to cancel? Nice show of loyalty.

Threatening to cancel & cancelling are two different things & Sirius knows that. XM found that out with O&A too

LoL

Now I am COMPLETELY On Bubba's side with this but there won't be as much cancellations as everyone says

The second is not Howards place to do. If Tim apologizes it won't be bc Howard made him & shouldn't be.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Howard Sabian's boss? It's absolutely Howard's place to demand anything from Tim.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't Howard Sabian's boss? It's absolutely Howard's place to demand anything from Tim.

Howard wouldn't DEMAND an on-air apology ... suggesting it & Tim doing it on his own I see, but making him do it is wrong

My guess is Tim will do it on his own

Also Bubba would never want an apology that way ... he is too much a man's man for that shit

WOW.... First off I do not agree with Sirius dumping anything during Bubba's show...

I think everyone(Bubba & Crew included) forgets Howard could not talk about Sirius at the end of his FM contract and he got dumped all the time and this is no different, Bubba cannot talk about his FM show on Sirius maybe in this case he did, maybe he did not BUT it's at Sirius's discretion to dump or not, ultimately they are the Boss.

and there is nothing anyone can or will do about it... threatening to cancel & bashing Sabien will solve nothing...

I see your point JK.

Stew : Will canceling my radios solve anything? No. I'm a stockholder too, so if anything I hurt myself a VERY little bit. But I just REFUSE to pay monthly for censored radio, regardless of who is censored or what channel it's on. If it can happen to Bubba, it can happen anywhere else on the channels, and it's something I am not willing to pay for.

I see your point JK.

Stew : Will canceling my radios solve anything? No. I'm a stockholder too, so if anything I hurt myself a VERY little bit. But I just REFUSE to pay monthly for censored radio, regardless of who is censored or what channel it's on. If it can happen to Bubba, it can happen anywhere else on the channels, and it's something I am not willing to pay for.

But bottom line for most is if the monthly cost is worth it. I understand principle and pretty pigheaded as well but if someone still gets the $10-13 a month enjoyment out of it than they keep it & to most people that $13 is very little in the big picture

Where it hurts is potential word of mouth from subs that would have recommended the service that now might not

I don't see what the big deal is. Sirius told Bubba not to talk about his morning terrestrial gig. Sirius was nice enough to give Bubba exception to their policy of having exclusive rights to a performer. The least Bubba can do is respect Sirius' wishes.

sirius was nice enough?! you have to be kidding?! when it comes to bubba sirius is almost as bad as the fcc! so they can curse, and there's slightly less commercials, big deal! nothing bubba said was out of line. plain and simple, tim was being an over protective middle management douche.

If it's in his contract terms not to mention anything about the FM gig, Bubba should man up and apologize. If not, then I see no reason for the dump, and will be bitterly disappointed in the event and the direction of this. This kind of corporate sanitization is precisely why I left terrestrial radio. I own stock as well as 4 radios.

If it's in his contract terms not to mention anything about the FM gig, Bubba should man up and apologize. If not, then I see no reason for the dump, and will be bitterly disappointed in the event and the direction of this. This kind of corporate sanitization is precisely why I left terrestrial radio. I own stock as well as 4 radios.

Its pretty common knowledge that Bubba cannot promote the FM show. Wiz remembers asking a question about possible syndication in Jan & that never made the air. Now if Tim heard that & dumped it that can be argues as his job but how he handled it when he called was low rent & lame IMO

Btw ... I do not blame Wiz & that question is an obvious one to ask. If anything maybe Brent should have stated not to go near any FM queries. Wiz did her job & is not at fault

Tim took his ball and ran

Whoa......I just listened to the clip posted. I wondered how the HELL I missed the getting dumped portion.

IMPORTANT: I was listening online stream since my S2 is a piece of fuck, and heard the entire statement that was apparently dumped. ALL that bubba said was A) They expect to be back next year. B) they expect to continue to do both shows with only a couple minor adjustments. C) It's out of their hands, the suits just need to agree to a couple small details. He then assured the Sirius crowd not to worry about it, it will get done. Not a single negative word, vibe, or ANY kind of commercial for AM. THAT'S ALL.

I am disgusted that Tim would treat the guys this way, and even madder they made the show take a shit on the SOTB, something most of us have been looking forward to for a long time. Tim normally seems like a cool dude, but the yelling today was complete BS.

for the life of me I don't understand how mentioning a local 2 affiliate morning show is such a big deal to a nationally broadcast satellite radio service? if he had been in say 6 markets throughout the US I could understand it, but in 2 FLA towns? I can understand if it was his morning bosses giving him shit, a la Howard's last year on KROCK. when (not if) Howard leaves and if Bubba is no longer affiliated with Sirius, can you say "Cancel Christmas." between my bricked S50, my Sirius 1, my Stiletto 100, my replacement antenna from TSS Radio and not to mention my 2 subscriptions, I have invested a lot of money in this service. I am not one of those people threatening to cancel every other day, but as I said earlier Sirius corporate is making me think long term how I want to spend my money down the road on this experiment.

will Bubba be live tommorrow? I hope he takes the weekend to cool off. what really gets my blood boiling is that Howard has been so non-eager to intervene on Bubba's behalf until the 11th hour. if Howard had envisioned giving personalities like Bubba a fresh start in radio, don't you think he'd be the first one to keep Sabien in check?

if that is all he said i heard the same on my radio ....maybe that is why i didn't notice the dump. Anyways if that is all he said that sucks.....it didn't warrant a dump by corporate

will Bubba be live tommorrow? I hope he takes the weekend to cool off. what really gets my blood boiling is that Howard has been so non-eager to intervene on Bubba's behalf until the 11th hour. if Howard had envisioned giving personalities like Bubba a fresh start in radio, don't you think he'd be the first one to keep Sabien in check?

The problem isn't with Tim its with Sirius lawyers as Bubba states MANY times. Also Bubba stated many times as well he went to Howard the last time & told him things then Howard got involved. Bubba spoke as recent as today how he speaks to Howard off air & they all discussed how great he has been to them. Tim is doing what he is told by Siri execs & Howard isn't one of them. Up until today Tim wasn't the issue but he handled todat insipidly.

Howard doesn't sit at the radio listening to every second of The BTLS Show ... I'm assuming he knows if there is an issue he will be told by Bubba, Time & whomever & if its then his place step in. Bubba said he felt bad calling Howard last December but he did to let him know why he might not sign again & to thank him & when Howard found out the sticking point he got involved.

That is the way things SHOULD be done IMO

I agree JK, call me naive but I think a certain amount of Bubba's "praise" about how great they've been to him is lip service.

I agree JK, call me naive but I think a certain amount of Bubba's "praise" about how great they've been to him is lip service.

You don't get a tat like Brent did for lip service & you don't have tears in your eyes when speaking about Howard coming to your wedding as lip service either

There is obviously a huge bond that Bubba feels towards Howard & you can hear it in his voice. When Bubba pays lip service (great phrase Jimmy lol) you can tell (not a put down to Bubba)

I don't think you are niave but just more suspect than maybe needed IMO

Edit: I recently started being the type that allowed those under me to handle things themselves and I tell them come to me if "needed" & I found it works better that way then micro-managing. Howard is a control freak but when it comes to his management style its very similar to what I described & that seems to work best

I listened to the clip again and it makes me think of Leprechauns for some reason.


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I just hope his internet feed continues when he syndicates in January or he's syndicated to Columbus, Ohio.

maybe we didnt miss anything in the "dump" maybe this is a work,i love bubba just as much as the rest of you(in a non-faggot way) but it seems to me that he always has some sort of heat with someone. I'm just sayin

Tim Sabian is a round mouth, and deserves to be punished.

I have been a Howard listener for many, many years. Its just been in the last 8 months that I have become a serious listener to Bubba - and i have to admit i think I am starting to enjoy his show more then Howards.

I love the Howard show, don't misunderstand me - but I don't get all excited when I know Howard's show is about to come on - like I do with BTLS show.

Fucking Tim Sabian, what a fucking mark for cock.
I hope he is enjoying the nice fat cock, sliding in and out of his throat right now.

Mmmmmm, Tim,,,,take a bite of my juicy cock you FAGGOT!

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:lol: Well done.
I just hope his internet feed continues when he syndicates in January or he's syndicated to Columbus, Ohio.
The Rock 105 crew are good people. They know they have an internet audience and have thanked them on the online stream.

Fucking Tim Sabian, what a fucking mark for cock.
I hope he is enjoying the nice fat cock, sliding in and out of his throat right now.

Mmmmmm, Tim,,,,take a bite of my juicy cock you FAGGOT!


It's intelligent, thought provoking post like yours that give SFN & The Darkside such a great rep

You have a way with words ... yes thats it ... you are a "wordsmith"

I can see Tim coming here, reading that and seeing the error of his ways

I wont pretend how to manage corporate America, since that is not my area of professionalism (hint).

The disrespect shown today was out of bounds. It's not only a rip towards the BRN, but a direct rip to us fans as well. What do the guys have to do to be treated with a mutual respect? I don't listen to ANYONE talk to me like that. Why would anyone else? The show has proven itself as a top ratings getter on both formats recently. After the big talk when the execs showed up some time ago, the crew has been nothing but supportive and positive towards the deal. Off the record at Bubbapalooza, nothing but more positive vibes on Sirius and the future with them. We're you listening today? Nothing but positive speak, and dumped. Those were questions from the FANS, the ones that pay their monthly subscriptions. We're fortunate enough that the brn allows such fan access. Thanks for throwing a big fucking roadblock in that after a 10 month hiatus. If I had to listen to a boss, wife, or anyone else that spoke to me and treated me that way.....the door couldn't hit them in the ass fast enough.

I am fortunate enough to have a pretty kick ass job that allows me to spend a ton of time listening to the radio. For the first four months of the year, I listened to both shows EVERY day. Notice I am rarely ever on these boards anymore? I bought a house, remodeling, and had other things that took some time. So, I had to make a choice. Since the newfound apparent respect had been given, the Sirius show was great. I had to make a choice of which one I was going to listen to daily. I chose Sirius. Why? That's a good question. Is it cheaper? No, it's 13+ a month. Is it easier? Fuck no, the top of the line receiver with all of the bells and whistles is a non-working piece of shit. I am streaming online right now since the pile of shit can't seem to work as designed. This is my third stiletto, by the way. Some bullshit with all of them. The AM show is much easier to get, and listen to at my leisure. Guess what? The content is as good, if not better. This isn't a threat by any means. I am not some opie and anthony ass threatening to smash my receiver........I am just beginning to have a very hard time justifying all the time, money, and bullshit when the AM show is free, equal content, and easier to get.

The total disrespect towards the guys, their fans, and everything else is at a boiling point. Fucking sick of it. Are you serious? You really want respect? Go find it from someone you know.

By the way, what's an "Open Letter"?

It's intelligent, thought provoking post like yours that give SFN & The Darkside such a great rep

You have a way with words ... yes thats it ... you are a "wordsmith"

I can see Tim coming here, reading that and seeing the error of his ways



I wish Bubba would say my name on air so I can be the end all, be all of the Bubba message boards. :rolleyes:

I'm listening to the replay and Tim your an asshole. I am disappointed with you, Sirius and the over thinkers. That was straight up disrespectful bullshit(Tim), pussy fuck! Bubba needs to move on, the morning show is so much better and free ( online ). I'm on the west coast and I have no problem archiving the morning show. I came here for Howard, but I will leave with Bubba. Howard has two 1/2 more years and I'm pretty much done with uh uh uh. This place is bullshit, I'm otta here!

I'm listening to the replay and Tim your an asshole. I am disappointed with you, Sirius and the over thinkers. That was straight up disrespectful bullshit(Tim), pussy fuck! Bubba needs to move on, the morning show is so much better and free ( online ). I'm on the west coast and I have no problem archiving the morning show. I came here for Howard, but I will leave with Bubba. Howard has two 1/2 more years and I'm pretty much done with uh uh uh. This place is bullshit, I'm otta here!

JKgropes will not approve of this post. You better rewrite it to his liking.

Well hopefully Howard will be flooded with calls about this and Tim can get on and be called the Pig Vomit that he is.

Well hopefully Howard will be flooded with calls about this and Tim can get on and be called the Pig Vomit that he is.

Sorry, Howard will only be taking calls on how great Howard TV is and how entertaining his specialty program this week was (Wackpack Special).

I think Bubba should quit today and explore all of his options. You know, the ones that had him home and unemployed for a year.

Anyway, I will miss all of you that are cancelling. Stick to your guns and do it. Good luck out there!!!

Tim should quit being a douche and start thinking about whos gonna keep sirius's subcribers when Howard retires. What a fucking Idiot. If BTLS leaves sirius, I can still listen on the the bone 102.5's website from my home im Arizona , but Sirius will be fucked getting my $20 something a month for my two subscriptons.

I think Bubba should quit today and explore all of his options. You know, the ones that had him home and unemployed for a year.

Anyway, I will miss all of you that are cancelling. Stick to your guns and do it. Good luck out there!!!

He won't quit not only because of the fans but also his contract.

For me this "revolution" is becomming worst than what it has saught out to replace.

Stop the whining and terminate your sirius subscriptions. Man up or shut up!

I didn't hear it but if Tim cut off Bubba it has nothing to do with Tim, it means a higher up has given Tim his orders and they will cut Tim a new asshole should he not follow them. Tim pushes the shit downstream, he has no choice.

The way Bubba was treated by the upper execs during the contract negotiations, he can fight with Tim all he wants, it won't help. Someone higher up the exec food chain (not Howard) has decided it is Ok to fuck with Bubba and damn the consequences. Fans voicing their opinion does not help either. Bubba needs to find out who that is. A quiet, discreet, off the record convo with Howard with assurances that the name or the convo will never be revealed might at least give Bubba the info as to who the higher up is that is fucking with Bubba. Without that info, Bubba is always fighting in the dark.



Bubba knows exactly who it is and so do we.... Patrick Donnelly.

Bubba knows exactly who it is and so do we.... Patrick Donnelly.

What is Donnelly's role and title at Sirius? It has to be one of the few power wielders at Sirius. Donnelly might just be the front man? Mel and Scott Greenstein have to be in on these decsisions?

The problem isn't with Tim its with Sirius lawyers as Bubba states MANY times. Also Bubba stated many times as well he went to Howard the last time & told him things then Howard got involved. Bubba spoke as recent as today how he speaks to Howard off air & they all discussed how great he has been to them. Tim is doing what he is told by Siri execs & Howard isn't one of them. Up until today Tim wasn't the issue but he handled todat insipidly.

Howard doesn't sit at the radio listening to every second of The BTLS Show ... I'm assuming he knows if there is an issue he will be told by Bubba, Time & whomever & if its then his place step in. Bubba said he felt bad calling Howard last December but he did to let him know why he might not sign again & to thank him & when Howard found out the sticking point he got involved.

That is the way things SHOULD be done IMO


This is where I differ from you a bit..... Howard is the face of Sirius and a HUGE stockholder in the company. With that he wields power that many of the "execs" do not have. What I am saying is that while Howard may not be an exec in name he has the kind of power to potentially push many of them around, as evidenced by getting Bubba re-signed. But I'm guessing thats a power he doesn't want to use too often.

What is Donnelly's role and title at Sirius? It has to be one of the few power wielders at Sirius. Donnelly might just be the front man? Mel and Scott Greenstein have to be in on these decsisions?


http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/CachedPage&c=BioAsset&cid=1038414951993



Executive Vice President and General Counsel

Patrick Donnelly has been the Executive Vice President and General Counsel for SIRIUS since May 1998, managing all of the Company's legal and governmental affairs.

The problem isn't with Tim its with Sirius lawyers as Bubba states MANY times. Also Bubba stated many times as well he went to Howard the last time & told him things then Howard got involved. Bubba spoke as recent as today how he speaks to Howard off air & they all discussed how great he has been to them. Tim is doing what he is told by Siri execs & Howard isn't one of them. Up until today Tim wasn't the issue but he handled todat insipidly.
Howard doesn't sit at the radio listening to every second of The BTLS Show ... I'm assuming he knows if there is an issue he will be told by Bubba, Time & whomever & if its then his place step in. Bubba said he felt bad calling Howard last December but he did to let him know why he might not sign again & to thank him & when Howard found out the sticking point he got involved.

That is the way things SHOULD be done IMO

I think Tim is getting tired of being called out on the air like that. He din't ask to do it on the air, he wanted to talk off the air, BUBBA wanted it on air...

Sirius, brought them back, they would be NOTHING without Sirius......Brent even admitted that yesterday.

And Everytime there's "negotiations" Bubba starts with the trash talkin until he gets/ or doesn't get what he wants.

Imagine having to deal with someone that has a fuse as short as Bubba's

I think Tim is getting tired of being called out on the air like that. He din't ask to do it on the air, he wanted to talk off the air, BUBBA wanted it on air...

Sirius, brought them back, they would be NOTHING without Sirius......Brent even admitted that yesterday.

And Everytime there's "negotiations" Bubba starts with the trash talkin until he gets/ or doesn't get what he wants.

Imagine having to deal with someone that has a fuse as short as Bubba's



The point is that he wasn't trash talking at all until he found out he had been dumped a few times yesterday.

Bubba overreacted...

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Executive Vice President and General Counsel

Patrick Donnelly has been the Executive Vice President and General Counsel for SIRIUS since May 1998, managing all of the Company's legal and governmental affairs.

Thanks, he definitely seems to have the gravitas.

I think Bubba should talk to Howard privately about this dude. Howard at the least can give Bubba some valuable info and recon as to where this guy is coming from, info is power nowadays. You need to dislodge a guy like that. I think Bubba should also make his case, honestly, to Howard about this dude. How can you have a future somewhere when someone gleefully rakes you over the coals during contract time? You need respect. Howard does like Bubba and sometimes a private talk from the heart can move the narcissistic rock more than anything else ever could.

I wish Bubba would say my name on air so I can be the end all, be all of the Bubba message boards. :rolleyes:

How old are you? 6?

:D

Say what you will but if it is in Bubba's contract that he can't talk about the FM job he has in the morning then he can't talk about it period. That seems to be the reason why it was dumped and I do believe Bubba over reacted on this one. He's the first one to bring up Hogan's line of "We all make our own deals" and he made his deal and now he has to put up with it until it runs out and he can be happy on FM where it appears he gets more freedom to do what he wants. I think he'll thrive in the FM market personally, and who knows MAYBE Tim was telling the truth and trying to save bubba from himself, after all we all know Mel's stance when it comes to people splitting time on FM and Sirius.

Last year was a close call of Bubba not coming back, this time I think we can all agree that there will be no close call anymore, it'll be FM for him, and I think he'll honestly be happier on there not having to deal with as many over thinkers as he has to do now.

I think Bubba will pretty much have to leave at the end of the year. Tim's call showed how low on the totem pole Bubba is at Sirius: the guys who host the top-rated local(Little Rock, Arkansas) shitty morning show wouldn't get treated like that by management on the air, and they're nobodies. Bubba won't, and shouldn't, tolerate that kind of shit for too long- the guy's a star. The main thing I took away from the parts of the sotb address that weren't dumped was that the schedule is kicking their asses. Something has to give, and, after yesterday, that something will be the Sirius show. FM syndication will make up for the lost Sirius money soon enough. It sucks that he's gonna lose out on the freedom satellite offered, but something tells me he values being treated with respect more than he values the ability to say "fuck."

Thanks, he definitely seems to have the gravitas.

I think Bubba should talk to Howard privately about this dude. Howard at the least can give Bubba some valuable info and recon as to where this guy is coming from, info is power nowadays. You need to dislodge a guy like that. I think Bubba should also make his case, honestly, to Howard about this dude. How can you have a future somewhere when someone gleefully rakes you over the coals during contract time? You need respect. Howard does like Bubba and sometimes a private talk from the heart can move the narcissistic rock more than anything else ever could.



No prob... I didn't do the digging or anything but at the end of last year that is the name many people came up with that was fucking with Bubba since the guy is a lawyer and has an Irish last name.


That is what Bubba did last year when Howard pushed to get him re-signed in the 11th hour. Bubba talked about calling Howard to wish him well and tell him that he wouldn't be re-signing and when Howard prodded as to why Bubba aired his grievances. It did result in the restoration of some of the freedoms Bubba had before he was put on lockdown when the merger stuff started getting into full effect but I guess maybe he has been fucked around with behind the scenes since then but he has kept a level head until yesterday. Things really seemed great once Greenstgrien and some other suits went down to Tampa a few months back (per Bubba) but maybe its cycling up again.

I just hope his internet feed continues when he syndicates in January or he's syndicated to Columbus, Ohio.

How could you do without that asshole Wags of Wags & Elliott, Or the Morning Zoo, or that old Fuck Face Bob Connors? Columbus morning radio could sure use Bubba.

Are you serious? You really want respect? Go find it from someone you know.

How about you go find another forum to post in asshole?

I wish Bubba would say my name on air so I can be the end all, be all of the Bubba message boards. :rolleyes:

No one here has changed their posting style since Bubba has mentioned them on air. Sorry you got your panties in a bunch about it. Feel free to not participate

No one here has changed their posting style since Bubba has mentioned them on air. Sorry you got your panties in a bunch about it. Feel free to not participate

Its funny to get heat bc Bubba mentions me for being stiff & brutally honest about him (instead of a mark) ... then again its not really heat bc this poster is a twit

;)

Thanks though Mistress Wiz :D