View Full Version : Ibanez willing to prove he is clean!


KingOfAllWhites
06-10-2009, 12:39 PM
This is what any real baseball fan has gotta love to see. If your clean, you should have nothing to hide. Wish the MLBPA would get that also!
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Raul Ibanez of the Philadelphia Phillies is bristling at the suggestion in a blog that his offensive numbers could be the result of performance-enhancing drugs. And he's perfectly willing to be drug-tested to prove it, the Philadelphia Inquirer reported.

"I'll come after people who defame or slander me," he said Tuesday night before the Phillies played the New York Mets, according to the report. "It's pathetic and disgusting. There should be some accountability for people who put that out there."

"You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test," Ibanez said, according to the report. "I'll give you back every dime I've ever made" if the test is positive, he added.

Ibanez, the leading vote-getter among outfielders on the National League All-Star ballot, was replying to a post on the Midwest Sports Fans site. In that post, a blogger with the pen name "JRod" tried to make the case that Ibanez's numbers were a result of several factors -- but added that given recent baseball history, speculation about performance-enhancing drugs could not be ignored.

Ibanez, 37, is off to a career-best start in his 15th major-league season, his first season calling hitter-friendly Citizens Bank Park home.

Entering Wednesday's games, Ibanez is first in the National League in four offensive categories, with 55 runs batted in, 47 runs scored, a .682 slugging percentage and 152 total bases. He's second in home runs with 20 -- just three behind his career average. He's hitting .327, a full 39 points higher than his .288 career batting average. His career slugging percentage is .491 and he's averaged 96 RBIs a season.

But Ibanez is playing in the wake of the steroid era, where big statistical leaps raise eyebrows and elicit whispers. He's also playing in the Internet era, where those whispers can take on a life of their own.

"Unfortunately, I understand the environment we're in and the events that have led us to this era of speculation," Ibanez said, according to the Inquirer. "At the same time, you can't just walk down the street and accuse somebody of being a thief because they didn't have a nice car yesterday and they do today. You can't say that guy is a thief."

In the original post, "JRod" detailed a number of factors that could explain Ibanez's hot start, including the hitter-friendly parks where he's homered and some of the poor pitching the Phillies have faced.

But "JRod" also acknowledged that in the current baseball climate, "It's time for me to begrudgingly acknowledge the elephant in the room: Any aging hitter who puts up numbers this much better than his career averages is going to immediately generate suspicion that the numbers are not natural, that perhaps he is under the influence of some sort of performance enhancer."

While "JRod" said he wanted to give Ibanez the benefit of the doubt, he also said the suspicion could not be dismissed outright.

"Maybe the 37-year old Ibanez trained differently this offseason with the pressure of joining the Phillies' great lineup and is in the best shape he's ever been in," he wrote. "And maybe that training included ... Well, you know where that one was going, but I'd prefer to leave it as unstated speculation. However, if Ibanez ends up hitting 45-50 homers this year, you can bet that I won't be the only one raising the question."

On Wednesday, "JRod" posted another entry and offered a partial apology. He said he felt more secure about Ibanez's numbers, noting Ibanez's improvement with men in scoring position, and said he had no axe to grind with the outfielder.

"I'll accept some level of accountability and offer a sincere apology to Raul Ibanez for advancing a public debate that, in his specific case, is very likely unfair and perhaps even unnecessary," the blogger wrote.

"However, I'm not accepting complete blame and accountability for being the person who started this. I just tried to do my homework and write a cogent response to speculation I had heard from other sources," the blogger continued.

"If Raul Ibanez, or any other player who is speculated about for putting up great numbers, is upset at the speculation, the majority of their anger and venom in my opinion should be directed towards their past and present peers who used steroids and PEDs," "JRod" added.

-ESPN

A.Lange=Crazy
06-10-2009, 12:41 PM
Your 2009 NL MVP.

Wicked Red Sox
06-10-2009, 12:44 PM
Sosa was too (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/magazine/life_of_reilly/news/2002/07/02/life_of_reilly/)

KingOfAllWhites
06-10-2009, 12:45 PM
Your 2009 NL MVP.

Declaring the MVP in June? :jj:

I thought you knew something about baseball......

Pussah2
06-10-2009, 12:45 PM
so did Clemens

KingOfAllWhites
06-10-2009, 12:46 PM
so did Clemens

Where? I missed that.....

Pussah2
06-10-2009, 12:56 PM
Where? I missed that.....


I was talking about him threatening everyone with lawsuits for defamation and he never did anything

AssFaceKilla
06-10-2009, 01:09 PM
Raul is clean...I pray......but man it stinks that a guy can't hit for power without getting sh*t it seems....

oneldef
06-10-2009, 01:16 PM
Good for Raul. Class guy. I wish there were more guys like him in the past.

The only guy I remember who got tested on the spot when questioned by a reporter was Kapler (because everyone saw his physique and assumed he was on roids). I think it's great that he'll sue anybody who slanders or libels him and is willing to take any test to prove it.

epsagent
06-10-2009, 01:23 PM
Good for Raul. Class guy. I wish there were more guys like him in the past.

The only guy I remember who got tested on the spot when questioned by a reporter was Kapler (because everyone saw his physique and assumed he was on roids). I think it's great that he'll sue anybody who slanders or libels him and is willing to take any test to prove it.
Most are willing, but unable to take those tests

the players union would never let him take a voluntary test - ever :eviled:

oneldef
06-10-2009, 01:28 PM
Most are willing, but unable to take those tests

the players union would never let him take a voluntary test - ever :eviled:

You make an excellent point but the players CAN take any test they choose for whatever reason. I'm sure the Union would be all over their case after it's done (especially in the past) but the player does have the right to do so and more innocent guys should have had that mentality.

epsagent
06-10-2009, 01:31 PM
You make an excellent point but the players CAN take any test they choose for whatever reason. I'm sure the Union would be all over their case after it's done (especially in the past) but the player does have the right to do so and more innocent guys should have had that mentality.that union is pretty strong - and won't tolerate being upstaged

there would be hell to pay if Ibanez went out on his own - :cool:

oneldef
06-10-2009, 01:34 PM
that union is pretty strong - and won't tolerate being upstaged

there would be hell to pay if Ibanez went out on his own - :cool:

Players did it in front of cameras years ago for HBO "Real Sports". And the Union is no where as strong now regarding PEDs ever since Congress got involved. Again, I think you're right that the Union wouldn't be happy and it would be an issue with them, but I'm sure Ibanez could get away with it if he really wanted to.

denny3117
06-10-2009, 02:22 PM
Ibanez has always hit for decent power, just not this early in the season. He normally struggles in the early months and heats up along with the weather... check his career numbers.

A.Lange=Crazy
06-10-2009, 02:37 PM
Being in a hitters park and a great lineup as made him a 25 HR guy to 35-40.

donnyd75
06-10-2009, 07:31 PM
Good for Raul. Class guy. I wish there were more guys like him in the past.

The only guy I remember who got tested on the spot when questioned by a reporter was Kapler (because everyone saw his physique and assumed he was on roids). I think it's great that he'll sue anybody who slanders or libels him and is willing to take any test to prove it.

Unfortunately, you cant sue someone over their opinion. As long as they don't state it as fact. I.E. "Ibanez HAS to be using steroids. Just look at his numbers over the years"

A.Lange=Crazy
06-10-2009, 07:34 PM
Best part was when he said the guy shouldn't be saying anything with him being 42 and living in his mom's basement.