Matsui looks awesome, in two games he has two HRs and has made a few amazing plays. If not him than who else you think is up there

Yeah man at this pace hes gonna hit 160 hr's. :rolleyes:

well, anyone is still a candidate

hell dmitri young is tearing it up through two games too

Way to early to be talking MVP in my opinion. What about Dmitri Young who hit 3 HR's in one game yesterday? Much better candidate after one or even two games.

So my nomination for MVP is Dmitri Young for his one game performance of 3 HR's in one game!

Im not saying matsui to be an obnoxious yankee fan, i just heard them talking about it on the radio and on the post game about how he could be a serious contender

I nominate Derek Jeter for having soft hands.

ramirez or garraro

Who's Garraro? Do you mean Guerrero, as in Vladimir Guerrero?

Im not saying matsui to be an obnoxious yankee fan, i just heard them talking about it on the radio and on the post game about how he could be a serious contender

Let me guess? It was on the Yankees flagship station that they proclaimed Matsui a contender...Funny I heard that they said the same thing about [insert your favorite team] on [flagship station].

David Ortiz... a monster.

Sure he has a chance. He's a pretty skilled ballplayer, but 160 games left is a long ways off from an MVP trophy, friend.

Let me guess? It was on the Yankees flagship station that they proclaimed Matsui a contender...Funny I heard that they said the same thing about [insert your favorite team] on [flagship station].
I heard them bring it up on ESPN too douche

I heard them bring it up on ESPN too douche Hey Alkaline I like you and you think you are an alright dude but I hate to break it to ya, ESPN is the same thing as the yankees flagship station. :D

Hey Alkaline I like you and you think you are an alright dude but I hate to break it to ya, ESPN is the same thing as the yankees flagship station. :D

ummm...sorry to break it to you, you're a good guy, but ESPN is extremely anti-Yankee...so get the facts straight

Hey Alkaline I like you and you think you are an alright dude but I hate to break it to ya, ESPN is the same thing as the yankees flagship station. :D
Whatever, it doesnt matter, i thought he looked good and was just wondering if anyone thought he had a shot to win mvp, thats all, i didnt mean to piss anyone off or anything, i did the poll mostly to see who everyone else thinks had a shot.

ESPN is anti-yankee? :rolleyes:

i know everyone thinks the national media is against their team, but seriously, you hear more news about the yankees and the red sox, both negative and positive than you do any other team by far

ESPN is anti-yankee? :rolleyes:

i know everyone thinks the national media is against their team, but seriously, you hear more news about the yankees and the red sox, both negative and positive than you do any other team by far

That's because they're the two best teams in the league, by far. They also happen to have the largest fan bases around the country.

they get that kind of attention even when they're not the top teams

i don't know about the largest fan bases, the yankees do for some reason, but boston might not have as many as the cardinals and a few other ancient teams

they have a lot though, but they are popular because of the cities they are in

I heard them bring it up on ESPN too douche

ESPN is a tool for the Yankees and all things East Coast. Figures they would say that about him and neglect Young for what he did even though he outdid Matsui in one game that took Matsui two games to pull within one HR of Young's accomplishment. He wasn't very productive today. I suppose he could still get the MVP but to talk about it after one or two games into the season is just plain stupid whether it was your "Yankee Cheerleading ASS" or a new broadcast. You both deserve the "Just Shut Up Award!"

That's because they're the two best teams in the league, by far. They also happen to have the largest fan bases around the country.

Ever been to Wrigley Field? Or a road game for the Cubs? Losing or winning one of the biggest draws in baseball.

Ever been to Wrigley Field? Or a road game for the Cubs? Losing or winning one of the biggest draws in baseball. Yes, we represent nationwide. :hw: What's up sanctum? Nice win for you guys today.

Yes, we represent nationwide. :hw: What's up sanctum? Nice win for you guys today.

I was pleased with the end result (Wickman reminded me of Koch in they way he blew that save!)but so far I am very disappointed with our two leadoff guys. In two games, they have 1 hit between the two of them. I know it's early but leadoff hitters have to get on base at least 2-3 times a game and they aren't doing it which leads to low run production. Thank god Paulie got that 2 run dinger! Should be an excellent candidate for MVP! :p

ESPN is a tool for the Yankees and all things East Coast.

Yeah, they never do any pieces on barry bonds or the Lakers

God , think about what u say before you type it!

Yeah, they never do any pieces on barry bonds or the Lakers

God , think about what u say before you type it! do they do stories about the indians or brewers? how about the rockies or the twins?

Yeah, they never do any pieces on barry bonds or the Lakers

God , think about what u say before you type it!

I stand by my statement. EPSNY is a tool for they Yankees and all things east coast.

I stand by my statement. EPSNY is a tool for they Yankees and all things east coast. To back you up on this, I was watching ESPNEWS yesterday and in the bottom corner, like a breaking story it said "Coming Up: Update on Steinbrenners Horse" Who the fuck cares how his horse did in some stupid race? Its not like it was the Kentucky Derby, so who gives a shit about that egomaniacal asshole's horse.

To back you up on this, I was watching ESPNEWS yesterday and in the bottom corner, like a breaking story it said "Coming Up: Update on Steinbrenners Horse" Who the fuck cares how his horse did in some stupid race? Its not like it was the Kentucky Derby, so who gives a shit about that egomaniacal asshole's horse.

Actually it was a significant win, being that the race steinbrenners horse won is usually the front runner to win the kentucky derby. they have done other stories on horses who have won that race.

do they do stories about the indians or brewers? how about the rockies or the twins?
Yup...... never heard any stories for weeks about Johan santana last year....or did I?

Actually it was a significant win, being that the race steinbrenners horse won is usually the front runner to win the kentucky derby. they have done other stories on horses who have won that race. But it didnt say, "Coming up highlights of so and so Race" it said "Steinbrenners Horse" WHO FUCKING CARES besides you idiot Yank fans.

Yup...... never heard any stories for weeks about Johan santana last year....or did I?
You are a moron! :rolleyes:

I wish he played for the red sox. I would take hime over johnny damon or trot nixon anyday

I wish he played for the red sox. I would take hime over johnny damon or trot nixon anyday I think you're retired:hw:

being a semi-sox fan i think he has a very good shot at mvp, but does anyone suspect him of juicing? he's pretty big for a asian.

Winning the MVP depends on how many runners on base Matsui has to drive in...if he has enough opportunities to drive in runs, and if the Yankees win, Matsui should finish in the top 5 amongst the MVP voters.

I think you're retarded:hw:

I think you're retired:hw:

um...ok... ;) :p :rolleyes:

I thought this thread deserved a bump.

Thank god the fans don't vote for MVP!!!

The sound you may hear as the year progresses are the Yankees falling into the basement

its going to be tough to win mvp from the bench, ha ha

Thank god the fans don't vote for MVP!!!
Exactly cause knowing some people here they would've voted for Paul Konerko :D

its going to be tough to win mvp from the bench, ha ha
:puzzled: :scratch:
What the hell are you talking about?

Exactly cause knowing some people here they would've voted for Paul Konerko :D


:puzzled: :scratch:
What the hell are you talking about?

I assume you are insinuating that I would vote for Paulie but you couldn't be more wrong. If you know the history of this thread, it was started 3 days into the season and Mr. Matsui had hit 2 HR in two games.

Here is how I would vote for MVP's on the teams that I follow:

White Sox - Either Scott Podsednik or Jon Garland
Cubs - Derrek Lee
Tigers - Brandon Inge
Twins - Torri Hunter
Brewers - Carlos Lee
Cards - Pujols
Indians - Grady Sizemore

For the league, I would have to say that right now, Derrek Lee should be one of the favorites. But with 4 months left in the season anything could happen.

D LEE!

Only thing I'll say about Lee is he's having the best start/half of any season he's every played, while Pujols' numbers are almost exactly where they've been every year. He's amazingly consistent.

But if the season ended today Lee is the MVP. Then again, the Cards have a large lead right now...

I assume you are insinuating that I would vote for Paulie but you couldn't be more wrong. If you know the history of this thread, it was started 3 days into the season and Mr. Matsui had hit 2 HR in two games.

Here is how I would vote for MVP's on the teams that I follow:

White Sox - Either Scott Podsednik or Jon Garland
Cubs - Derrek Lee
Tigers - Brandon Inge
Twins - Torri Hunter
Brewers - Carlos Lee
Cards - Pujols
Indians - Grady Sizemore

For the league, I would have to say that right now, Derrek Lee should be one of the favorites. But with 4 months left in the season anything could happen.

I don't care how many wins Garland has, Buhrle is the absolute rock of that staff. If you put Judy as your ace you would see a yellow line running down his pants. Buhrle will go out with his worst stuff and be willing to take his lumps for 6 innings and still keep the Sox within striking distance.

My Sox MVP would be the two headed monster of Pods and Iguichi. Speed and smarts at the top of the lineup have made all the difference. They have been on base so much that Konerko can still have 40 RBI's while hitting in the .100's with runners in scoring position.

Podsednik has 33 runs scored, 14 rbi, 0 hr's, and a .287 ba.

Carlos Lee has 32 runs scored, 55 rb, 15 hr's, and a .290 ba.

How can Sox fans say they don't wish they still had C Lee? Just wondering.

Only thing I'll say about Lee is he's having the best start/half of any season he's every played, while Pujols' numbers are almost exactly where they've been every year. He's amazingly consistent.

But if the season ended today Lee is the MVP. Then again, the Cards have a large lead right now... Pujols is also a juicer who is 5 years older than he says he is.

And we're coming strong, we have a lot of games against you guys still. Watch out!

Pujols is also a juicer who is 5 years older than he says he is.

And we're coming strong, we have a lot of games against you guys still. Watch out! Juice? I don't know, he's a big guy, so maybe. But he's put up the same numbers every year, no drop off.

But after 9/11 everyone had to provide more detailed proof of age and origin or whatever, and they found out Pujols is exactly the age they said he was. Which is younger than me and makes me feel fuckin old.

I don't care how many wins Garland has, Buhrle is the absolute rock of that staff. If you put Judy as your ace you would see a yellow line running down his pants. Buhrle will go out with his worst stuff and be willing to take his lumps for 6 innings and still keep the Sox within striking distance.

My Sox MVP would be the two headed monster of Pods and Iguichi. Speed and smarts at the top of the lineup have made all the difference. They have been on base so much that Konerko can still have 40 RBI's while hitting in the .100's with runners in scoring position.

It's what Garland has brought to the 5th starter spot really. Last year, the 5th starter(s) combined for total of 5 wins. He has already doubled that this year and there is still a long way to go. I still think he should be a candidate for the spot for the team MVP, definitely not league though.

Podsednik has 33 runs scored, 14 rbi, 0 hr's, and a .287 ba.

Carlos Lee has 32 runs scored, 55 rb, 15 hr's, and a .290 ba.

How can Sox fans say they don't wish they still had C Lee? Just wondering.

Because Pods make pitchers nervous. He is a leadoff hitter and they don't get RBI's, Larry! *L* More times than not they are are getting base. When he is on the bases, it affects the pitchers because he isn't afraid to take a bag, sometimes two with the same batter at the plate. It affects pitching for the other team.

I have always like C. Lee. Still do and I am glad to see that the trade has been a success for both sides. Makes trades with the Brewers in the future that much easier. If we still had Lee, where would he bat? He isn't a leadoff guy. Not fast enough to be bat two. Everett and Thomas, hopefully we won't lose one of them. Paulie is in a slump but he is a 1B, not a LF so Lee doesn't fit there. I guess what I am saying is that C. Lee is probably in the best place for his career right now.

Because Pods make pitchers nervous. He is a leadoff hitter and they don't get RBI's, Larry! *L* More times than not they are are getting base. When he is on the bases, it affects the pitchers because he isn't afraid to take a bag, sometimes two with the same batter at the plate. It affects pitching for the other team.

But he has not translated into anymore runs produced, actually less, than C Lee has, and C Lee is on a shitty team. I just think sox fans give Pods way to much credit calling him the mvp and whatnot. The MVP of you guys is not any of the position players, its the whole pitching staff, starters and bullpen. If they were not pitching out of their minds the sox wouldn't be doing shit. That is a fact jack!

I don't mean to take anything away from the pitching staff but most pitchers don't win MVP's.

Going into the top of 8, 1-0 White Sox. I sure hope that they let Buehrle go the distance or Hermanson can come in and not give up a run like he did last night.

Well, he not only gave up 1 run but he gave up 2!!! They can't win them all but they shouldn't have lost this one.

I don't mean to take anything away from the pitching staff but most pitchers don't win MVP's.

Going into the top of 8, 1-0 White Sox. I sure hope that they let Buehrle go the distance or Hermanson can come in and not give up a run like he did last night. I'm not saying any one pitcher will win the mvp, I am saying their staff is the mvp of the "team."

Ozzie blew that game last night, leaving Buerhle in to bat in the 8th(he struck out) instead of bringing in a pinch hitter to bunt those guys over. Dopish move considering he took him out in the bottom of the 8th anyways. Hey you can't win em all but to lose a game like that always sucks.

I'm not saying any one pitcher will win the mvp, I am saying their staff is the mvp of the "team."

Ozzie blew that game last night, leaving Buerhle in to bat in the 8th(he struck out) instead of bringing in a pinch hitter to bunt those guys over. Dopish move considering he took him out in the bottom of the 8th anyways. Hey you can't win em all but to lose a game like that always sucks.

Yeah but they won in extra innings today by 3 on a 3 HR from Rowand against Hoffman...Still leaves the Sox only losing 2 series all year (Oakland, Texas) with one split (Angels). Not a bad stat going 62 games into the season. If the Sox finish the season playing .500 ball the rest of the year, their record will be 92-70. That probably won't happen but I am willing to bet that they 100 wins this year.

Yankees lost another series this weekend.

The Twins lost today to the Dodgers so the White Sox picked up another game. We have Zona coming into Comiscular Park tomorrow for a 3 game series and I think we should be alright to take the 2-3 that we have been getting.

Cubbies are going for the sweep! I hope they pull this one off on National TV.

I thought this thread deserved a bump. :rolleyes:

Well it's the All-Star Break and let's look at Matsui's numbers shall we.

.320 AVG(6th) 14HR(T-22th) 70RBI(5th) 60Runs(T-8th) 105 Hits(T-7th) 25 Doubles(2nd) .530 SLG%(12th) 40XBH(T-7th) .384 OBP%(11th) 174 Total Bases(8th)

Pretty good first half don't you think? :D

Talk shit now :giggle:

He didn't even make the All-Star team. On that note, has an MVP (since 1960, the age of modern baseball) ever not made the All-Star team during the year that he won it?

Only two player have ever done that in the American League.

The first was Robin Yount in 1989. He didn't participate in the All-Star game that year but won the League MVP award. However, he had been an All-Star in 1982. Robin Yount was also elected the HOF in 1999.

The second was Juan Gonzalez in 1996. He didn't participate in the All-Star game that year but won the League MVP. However he was League MVP in 1998 and participated in the All-Star game the same year.

Gonzalez lends the only precedent that Matsui has any shot at being an MVP candidate this year. Still don't think he will make it because there are plenty of other players that have better numbers than he does.

Better candidates for MVP would be:

Player R H HR RBI SO AVG
M Teixeira 67 102 25 73 62 .290
A Rodriguez 65 103 23 72 63 .317
D Ortiz 63 103 24 75 62 .314

Matsui would fall into the next slot most likely so I suppose the statement isn't far off but based on recent MLB history it's probable but not likely.

What about my man Miggy?

H 114
R 55
2B 30
HR 19
RBI 62
TB 209
OBP .373
AVG .329

Those are good numbers for Tejada but not good enough to be a league MVP. Lacks HR and RBI but has the BA and AB's. I am not sure he would make it missing two of three.

In relation to the other post about the AL MVP's that have not participated in the All Star Game...

The National League has had this happen 4 times during the same time frame:

Dave Parker, 1978
Kirk Gibson, 1988
Terry Pendleton, 1991
Chipper Jones, 1999

First let's get something straight I never said Matsui was gonna win the MVP. I don't care if he's not on the All-Star Team cause everybody knows that he has All-Star numbers and the fact that he and Jeter are not in it it's a joke. There are a couple of guys that don't belong there but that's another topic. Deserving players get snubbed every year this is nothing new.

I bumped this thread with his stats cause you idiots were jumping for joy when Matsui was on a slump talking a lot of shit. The question that is posed here isn't will he win the MVP but does he have a shot at winning the MVP and yes he does. If he does the same thing that he did in the first half in the second half he'll be in the running. When the season is over he'll probably finished in the top 10 in the MVP voting. Sure there are players with better numbers but a lot of times the player with better numbers doesn't always win. Ichiro won the MVP in 2001 so numbers aren't everything.

My MVP for the first half is Brian Roberts. That little fucker is the reason why the Orioles are having the season they are having.

Ichiro had a remarkable 2001 season, accumulating 242 hits (the most by any player since 1930) and leading the league with a .350 batting average and 56 stolen bases. By mid-season, he had produced hitting streaks of 15 and 23 games, been on the cover http://i.cnn.net/si/si_online/covers/images/2001/0528_large.jpg of Sports Illustrated, and created a media storm on both sides of the Pacific. In Seattle, ticket sales (and wins) were higher than ever, fans from Japan were taking $2,000 baseball tours to see the games, more than 150 Japanese reporters and photographers were clamoring for access, and "Ichirolls" were being sold at sushi stands in the ballpark. Ichiro was also a Gold Glove winner in 2001.

He earned his MVP award that year.

If you read what I said about Matsui in my latest posts, you would note that I said he has a shot. Everyone in the league has a shot though. He might become they Yankees team MVP but he has a long way to go to be the League MVP with other players doing more for the league and their teams than he is.