Man! Howard SUCKS! What's with him trying to rip off O&A?!?!

For example one day after Opie and Anthony got a listener to WOW (that would be flash for all you O&A impaired readers)the Today show Howards tells his audience that he wants a female listener to show her bare breasts on the Today show.

(Oh and yes, for all of you who didn't know that WAS O&A who were responsible for that, and if there is any doubt in your mind, she had the O&A trade mark WOW sticker on her stomach to prove it was for O&A.)

Man Howards really got STALE these days... His show has been SOOO LAME reciently.
WHEN WILL HE TRY SOMETHING NEW AND ORIGIONAL, RATHER THAN DOING THE SAME BITS OVER AND OVER!!!!
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I have no idea about any flaming going on at your board. It sucks that people do that. Anyways, I have checked out other O&A boards to see what people are saying about them and I have noticed that many O&A fans say that they do not like Stern because he doesn't make them laugh anymore. That's fine. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions. But for other people, Howard is the best thing to listen to in the mornings. O&A have said that they do not want to do mornings anyways. So what's the problem? It seems like O&A fans are worried about the fact that Howard has "brainwashed" his fans into believing he is the King. But if you (O&A fans) can all honestly say that the new guys are better than why worry? The ratings are good. People are still listening to WNEW. Stern's fans will be Stern fans and O&A fans will be O&A fans. Some will even listen to both because the commute to work is round trip. I personally have never bashed O&A and I could really care less about whether or not they syndicate. I know that they are the true inventors of WOW b/c I had it written on my car in 1997 (WAAF days). If Stern wants to pretend that he was the inventor, then fine. That's Stern and that is how he has done everything in his career. People don't listen to Stern to hear his bull shit..they listen to him because he is entertainment.[hr]

Well said.

I have no opinion about O&A. I've never heard them, but if they were in my area I'd give em a try. I've read all the news about em and it seems like they are doing well. All this Stern sucks stuff is a rather dumb. Just because Howard has a bug up his ass about O&A doesn't mean any of us could give a crap. Howard always bitches about people ripping him off. Yes its old, yes it's annoying, and yes it's ridiculous. None of us pay it any attention any more.

Just because I like the Stern Show doesn't mean I dislike O&A. This isn't multiple choice here people. Howard used to bitch about the Greaseman, and he never ripped one thing off of Howard. They were totally different shows, and just because Howard didn't like him, didn't mean I had to obey and dislike him also.

Some people get a little too serious about all of this. We listen for entertainment. Why the hell are you so angry. Cheer the hell up and grow up people.

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As far as the Today show is concerned, I was listening that day and Howard didn't try to rip that off. He mentioned it but didn't claim it was him. He even said it was O&A and talked about the WOW sticker. What he said was that they used to do a similar bit back in DC. Whether that was bullshit or not I don't know, but he said they used to encourage chicks to flash truckers that honked on a certain day of the week. So Howard was saying that O&A's WOW bit was just a rehash of this old DC bit. I'm sure Howard was full of it, but thats just him.
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PS where are these O&A message boards? I'm currious to see what they look like.[hr]

www.opieanthony.com (http://www.opieanthony.com)


There are a lot of Stern haters there who find there way over to this board.
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how fuuny, they use my private message script. They also have the who's online script which I worked on developing many of the current features. :)

cool to see my shit out there.[hr]

i dont care about o&a i still listen to stern and so do alot of other people thats why hes number 1[hr]

*shoots some of those evil imitators* :uzi:
yay!

There you go Modane...cool avatar.

I've got your back Modane
:rm:

Originally posted by Mutt:
how fuuny, they use my private message script. They also have the who's online script which I worked on developing many of the current features. :)

cool to see my shit out there.

Hahaha--just like O&A rip-off Stern so their message board rips off the Stern Fan Network.
Imitation is the greatest form of flattery mother used to say.

:uzi: :ce:

Originally posted by slash9814:
I've got your back Modane
:rm:



LMAO
oh thanks I need the help :)
damn them stupid imitators!

Originally posted by DatTheStat:
There you go Modane...cool avatar.

LOL
you got a nice avatar too :)

Get a room!!!

Originally posted by Harris:
Get a room!!!

LMAO

Down with the imitators. We need an army here. How about a private room just for us people in the army so no outsiders know what we are doing? Count me in.

No need for an "army" here. Most of us are very well educated professional "adults" who don't partake in such childish activities.

The DOS on the other hand, is a fraternity of fans with real talent who have proven their talent through different ways on a professional level. That is all. Peace-out.

:uzi: :ce:

Forget the Whole Imitator thing. That Show just izn't funny.
In all honesty, Whenever I'm in a cab & thoze guys are on, I can't stand it. I don't know why, but it's just NOT funny! And the bits go on forever.

The same gag on & on.
The fisrt rtyme I heard the show (A year ago I think) They were making funn of some guy for being Sick & taking too much Medication. It waz Obviously a planned bit that had no REAL content, but not only that, it last for 25mins+!!

Uninteresting. That'z it I guess.

blah, blah, blah. uh

I've tried before to listen to "o and a" but they just suck. They try to act like Howard, talk like Howard and the only way they got semi big($35,000 a year lol)is by mentioning STern

Listening to them is like drinking a diet coke or smoking piss poor weed.

Originally posted by Mutt:
As far as the Today show is concerned, I was listening that day and Howard didn't try to rip that off. He mentioned it but didn't claim it was him. He even said it was O&A and talked about the WOW sticker. What he said was that they used to do a similar bit back in DC. Whether that was bullshit or not I don't know, but he said they used to encourage chicks to flash truckers that honked on a certain day of the week. So Howard was saying that O&A's WOW bit was just a rehash of this old DC bit. I'm sure Howard was full of it, but thats just him

BTW, out here in La La Land, Tom Likus (sic) does a thing every friday - Flash Friday - in which he asks women to flash their boobs to drivers who have their headlights on. Said drivers will then call in to the show and (sometimes while the flashing is going on) will relate what's happened.

I don't know how long this 'nonsense' has been going on, but it seems like it's the sort of thing that's been popular for a REALLY LONG TIME. Why am I not surprised?

Knowing Howard, it simply would not be beyond belief that he did do something similar in DC and lots of other radio folks ran with the idea.

As to who "started" what, well, how long have guys been looking at boobs? Probably as long as girls have been looking at crotches!

I've never heard these O&A fucks, but I hear so much shit about them, that I'm sick of them.

Fuck O&A

Who the hell are Opurt & Asskissee? I've never even heard their show and if these are the kind of unimaginative twerps who listen to them I don't ever want to.

Make them go away.
:cat: says: Kill them. Make them die.

“WOW”..

…. Even Howard got fired FIRST by NBC… those imitators are at it again….hehehe.

“OK”….

…..Opie’s last words on the failed XFL pre-game show "They don't want to hear us, Anthony!"

Shhhh listen! The voices of rejoicing fans all over America are yelling..…

……“TERRIFIC”

slick- Hehehe, no comment! Who'd they blow to get that job anyway?


L.L.T.K.O.A.M.

I just went over to o+a site to see what
all this is about, I too have never heard
of them. But it seems someone is ripping
off someone. I would like to think that
they're ripping off Howard after all the
picture posted of those dweebs looks like
they're fresh outta highschool

O & A aren't immitating or ripping off Stern. By the way they are both in their 30's. Stern hasn't really ripped off O & A, but he did try to take credit for WOW.

Originally posted by SternSuX:
Man! Howard SUCKS! What's with him trying to rip off O&A?!?! For example one day after Opie and Anthony got a listener to WOW (that would be flash for all you O&A impaired readers)the Today show Howards tells his audience that he wants a female listener to show her bare breasts on the Today show. (Oh and yes, for all of you who didn't know that WAS O&A who were responsible for that, and if there is any doubt in your mind, she had the O&A trade mark WOW sticker on her stomach to prove it was for O&A.) Man Howards really got STALE these days... His show has been SOOO LAME reciently. WHEN WILL HE TRY SOMETHING NEW AND ORIGIONAL, RATHER THAN DOING THE SAME BITS OVER AND OVER!!!!
whipppp em out wendesday,,,,,,,,i use to love that when they were in boston

Originally posted by jakelove:
whipppp em out wendesday,,,,,,,,i use to love that when they were in boston

You might not have to wait long for them to be in Boston. They proabably will get syndicated in June & Boston will most likley be one of the cities. WOW is basically
Whip em out Whenever now.

Originally posted by TimJ:
You might not have to wait long for them to be in Boston. They proabably will get syndicated in June & Boston will most likley be one of the cities. WOW is basically Whip em out Whenever now.
Do O&A KNOW YOUR TURNING EVERYBODY OFF TO
THEM BEFORE THEY EVEN KNOW WHO THEY ARE??
sorry about the caps I got carried away.

WOW is for fags who can't get laid! have fun homos with the sticker on your pinto!

I LIVE IN PHILLY, NOT NY, SO I NEVER EVEN HEARD OF O AND A TILL I CAME TO THE SFN. I HAVE HEARD HOWARD TALK ABOUT HIS IMITATORS AND ALL THAT B4, BUT I NEVER SPECIFICALLY HEARD ABOUT O AND A. NOW, IM NOT GONNA CALL A SHOW THAT I NEVER HEARD A "CLONE", THATS WHY I LISTENED TO THEIR SHOW THE OTHER DAY ON WINAMP, AND THEY SURE SOUND LIKE CLONES TO ME.

WITHIN 15 MINUTES OF LISTENING, I HAD ALREADY HEARD THEM REFER TO SOME GIRLS VAGINA AS HER "MOST INTIMATE OF AREAS". THAT SOUNDS FAMILIAR DOESNT IT? AND REFER TO SOME GIRLS PUSSY SHAVE AS A "HITLER MUSTACHE" AND, THEY USE THE FORMAT THAT HOWARD CREATED.

IT WOULDNT EVEN BOTHER ME THAT THEY DO HIS SHOW IF THEY ACKNOWLEDGED HOWARD 4 WHAT HE DID FOR RADIO, AND MAYBE SHOWED HIM A LITTLE RESPECT. BUT INSTEAD, THEY MAKE FUN OF HIM, OR THEY ACT LIKE THEY NEVER HEARD OF HIM, AND THEY ACT LIKE THEY R NOT DOING HIS SHOW. I KNOW THAT IF I GOT INTO RADIO, AND I GOT A SHOW LIKE O AND A THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO ON THE AIR IS ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT HOWARD IS A RADIO GENIUS, AND THAT HIS SHOW IS WHAT INSPIRED MINE, AND THAT HIS SHOW MADE MINE POSSIBLE.

MUTT, U SAID "I have no opinion about O&A. I've never heard them, but if they were in my area I'd give em a try".
IF U WANT TO GIVE THEM A TRY EVEN THOUGH THEY R NOT IN UR AREA: if you have winamp open it and press ctrl+L then enter this 166.90.148.108:7668 and you can hear them live.(WHEN THEIR SHOW IS ON THAT IS)

King- Well said!!!

Philly King Calling the vagina the most intimate of areas is like the nonly way the can get that said on air. Ans how long has Howard used the phrase Hitler Mustache?

Tim- for the last 5 years!!!

Steve I heard O&A use that on an old clip from 1995 when they were in Boston.

At least TimJ finally had the decency to post his crap in the right forum.

I'll give "her" that much.

Originally posted by Gerry Lincoln:
At least TimJ finally had the decency to post his crap in the right forum. I'll give "her" that much.

Gerry basically the only time I say something in GD is a response to someone else's post

IT WOULDNT EVEN BOTHER ME THAT THEY DO HIS SHOW IF THEY ACKNOWLEDGED HOWARD 4 WHAT HE DID FOR RADIO, AND MAYBE SHOWED HIM A LITTLE RESPECT. BUT INSTEAD, THEY MAKE FUN OF HIM, OR THEY ACT LIKE THEY NEVER HEARD OF HIM, AND THEY ACT LIKE THEY R NOT DOING HIS SHOW. I KNOW THAT IF I GOT INTO RADIO, AND I GOT A SHOW LIKE O AND A THE FIRST THING I WOULD DO ON THE AIR IS ACKNOWLEDGE THE FACT THAT HOWARD IS A RADIO GENIUS, AND THAT HIS SHOW IS WHAT INSPIRED MINE, AND THAT HIS SHOW MADE MINE POSSIBLE.



O+A have acknowledged Howard before. From the Demented World CD, Opie said

Thanks for Howard Stern for paving the way...actually didn't he invent tar ?



They've already been quoted in interviews say they have been fans. Anthony even appeared on Howard's show long ago.

All O+A are asking for is an even playing field. Howard built his syndicated empire on the backs of DeBella, Mark and Brian and other competitors. So why can't O+A talk about Howard with the same freedom hmmmmmm ?

Originally posted by creeper:
O+A have acknowledged Howard before. From the Demented World CD, Opie said They've already been quoted in interviews say they have been fans. Anthony even appeared on Howard's show long ago. All O+A are asking for is an even playing field. Howard built his syndicated empire on the backs of DeBella, Mark and Brian and other competitors. So why can't O+A talk about Howard with the same freedom hmmmmmm ?


I think Howard is scared of O&A. Why else go out of his way to try & sabotage someone elses career. Howard needs to go back o the basics and let out who he has problems with instead of crying to the Infinty bosses like a little bitch

Originally posted by TimJ:
I think Howard is scared of O&A. Why else go out of his way to try & sabotage someone elses career. Howard needs to go back o the basics and let out who he has problems with instead of crying to the Infinty bosses like a little bitch
A while ago I asked you the question "are you really an idiot or do you just play one on the internet?" I now have the answer: you are an idiot.

Let me explain this so even you can understand. I'll need your undivided attention, so put down the vasoline & Pokemon cards.

:koam: follows a simple formula: when you go to another market where you are not known, attack the most popular competition. When they respond, :koam: gets his name heard by the most people, many of whom will then listen to his show out of curiosity. This is an effective, cheap, and fun way to advertise - nothing more.

A&W are trying to clone the :koam: path to success by attacking :koam:. They have everything to gain by starting a war - having their names mentioned regularly on the show would be a huge plus for them.

What does :koam: gain from a war? Nothing. His name mentioned on A&W will do nothing for him. He knows this, which is why he chosen wisely to not participate. It is not his job to prop up and lend credibility to anybody.

In any work environment where someone is sniping at you, your first instinct is to confront that person directly. This is the incorrect approach. The correct way is to go to your boss, explain the situation, and have the boss talk to the other employee. I know you're years away from the workforce but when you get there, you'll know what I'm talking aboot.

In conclusion, this is the final time I will bother responding to you A&W morons, as you all bore me. Especially the one-trick pony TimJ, who has the personality of a petrified piece of wood. I will no longer waste my time.

You may pick up the vasoline and Pokemon cards now. Carry on...

The amazing thing about this message board is that loser O&A fans like Tim can post their anti-Stern hate here.

Try doing that on the opieanthony.com message board. Whenever you post anything Stern related or pro Stern your blocked from the site.

This is all done by Opie and Anthony. They are practicing their own form of a GAG ORDER.

Are you trying to say Howard invented attacking other hosts?? DJ's have been ripping each other since Howard was a little kid & his hometown Roosevelt was still white. O&A rip on everyone Howie shouldn't be exemp just because he is Howie

Originally posted by TimJ:
Are you trying to say Howard invented attacking other hosts?? DJ's have been ripping each other since Howard was a little kid & his hometown Roosevelt was still white. O&A rip on everyone Howie shouldn't be exemp just because he is Howie


Sorry TimJ, you're wrong there.

Before Howard changed the ground rules, deejays were pretty much forbidden to even mention another station's call letters, much less personalities.

It was pretty artificial listening to announcers almost pretending their competitionn didn't even exist.

DJ's talked about each other in the 70's. And one of the main reasons O&A started making fun of Howie was Howards rant about two dj's on his sister station in NY(meaning O&A) playing the same Casey Casem bit as him. If Howard's going to dish it out & poke fun at others he should at least be able to take the heat back when they critcize him. & you thinking that Howard invented ripping on others, just because Howard does it doesn't mean others can't?? Cmon thats ridicoulus. O&A rip on everyone, Howie should be exempt just because he is crybaby Howie. If your going to jusge anyone let alone O&A you can't do in based on 1 day listening for 2 hours. give them a week & keep an open mind instead of having a biased judgment in your head and you might change your mind.

Originally posted by TimJ:
If your going to jusge anyone let alone O&A you can't do in based on 1 day listening for 2 hours. give them a week & keep an open mind instead of having a biased judgment in your head and you might change your mind.
The first time I heard Howard in Washington I was "hooked" after an hour.

Unfortunately for me, I didn't live in Washington so I only heard him occasionally.

But I never forgot him and the next thing I knew, he was at WNBC.

what day did you hear O&A last week?

Originally posted by TimJ:
what day did you hear O&A last week?

I'm not sure — whatever day Harris posted a URL that was broadcasting their show.

That was on Thurday, which was proabably their worst show of the week. Wednsday's show was insane with Kimmi from Survivor in the whip cream bikini & getting praticlly naked & Rodney Dangerfield in the studio, he's old, but he still his pretty damn funny. I have to give you credit for giving them a try and not being ignorant like other people on the board, but you can't reall judge them by one day. O&A tend to grow on people, at first you may not understand everything they are talking about because they have quite a bit of inside jokes. Once you start o get a feel for the show about a week you really get to understand them and get too see how funny they really are, something you can't do listening for just one day.

Originally posted by TimJ:
That was on Thurday, which was proabably their worst show of the week. Wednsday's show was insane with Kimmi from Survivor in the whip cream bikini & getting praticlly naked & Rodney Dangerfield in the studio, he's old, but he still his pretty damn funny. I have to give you credit for giving them a try and not being ignorant like other people on the board, but you can't reall judge them by one day. O&A tend to grow on people, at first you may not understand everything they are talking about because they have quite a bit of inside jokes. Once you start o get a feel for the show about a week you really get to understand them and get too see how funny they really are, something you can't do listening for just one day.

I have heard them before, when I was in NYC.

All I can say is they were no better and no worse than countless other deejays throughout the USA and Canada. There's really nothing distinctive about their stuff. Hundreds of announcers around the continent are doing the same stuff, each one trying to be more "outrageous" than the next. They all sound pretty much the same.

I don't know if you've ever traveled outside New York, but you can find hundreds of shows that sound about the same. The only TRULY UNIQUE personality, recognized instantly the moment you hear his voice, is Howard.

And you have to admit that Howard Stern was the first to tear down the barriers.

I still don't understand why you come over here.

You're kind of like those pushy Jehova's Winesses who insist on trying to convert the world to their way of thinking.

They — and you — are fighting a losing battle.

I use to be a big Stern fan. I listened to him frm around 94 when I was in jr high. Over time I have lost interest in Stern especially over the last year or so. The show has gotten very redundent and boring and you pretty much know what your going to get out of Stern. O&A on the other hand have the edge and the fire Stern has lost and you never know what to expect from O&A. I do respect everything Stern has done in the past for radio, but that doesn't mean others can't come along. In the past Stern use to fight his battles & I had lots of respect for him, now, however he goes crying to the bosses and I lost that respect I once had for Stern. If O&A was such a non-factor to STern then why does he have the gag order on them?? Stern needs to stop worrying about others & start getting back to putting a good radio show on. Many of the people on the board have said Stern's show has definatley taken a turn for the worst over the last year or so. Ironically thats the same time when he started to get involved with O&A.

Originally posted by TimJ:
Many of the people on the board have said Stern's show has definatley taken a turn for the worst over the last year or so. Ironically thats the same time when he started to get involved with O&A.

See, that's the difference. Here, we CAN criticize THE SHOW.

Of course there's room for improvement. I personally feel the show has suffered since Jackie walked out and I'm free to express that opinion, whereas at the other site it seems to be "verboten" to say anything's wrong with that show.

And I don't think any of Howard's problems have anything to do with an afternoon show that's not even in competition with him.

I don't know how you came to that conclusion.

Hey tim, you wanna see what show is better, look at the ratings, stern-6.5 2nd place in mornings(#1 time slot), o&a-3.7- 7th place in afternoon(#2 time slot)

Gerry the whole gag order issue came up a little more than a year ago towards the end of the winter 2000 book. Howard's Fall 99 ratings in NYC was a 9.0 his Winter 2000 ratings was an 8.7, but his winter 2001 #'s were down to a 6.5. Don't you think its a strange coincidence in the same period of time that the gag order came out his show has gone downhill & ratings are in a freefall.
And Steve you can't really judge one book. O&A had one bad book, they have been UP 4 of the last 5 books, meanwhile Stern has been DOWN 4 of the last 5 bools.

They dropped from 3rd overall to 7th overall in one shot.That cant be good.

Originally posted by TimJ:
Gerry the whole gag order issue came up a little more than a year ago towards the end of the winter 2000 book. Howard's Fall 99 ratings in NYC was a 9.0 his Winter 2000 ratings was an 8.7, but his winter 2001 #'s were down to a 6.5. Don't you think its a strange coincidence in the same period of time that the gag order came out his show has gone downhill & ratings are in a freefall.

How can you compare apples to oranges? They're not in direct competition at all — Howard has a morning drive show while your guys are on in the afternoon when only a small fraction of listeners have their radios on.

The smae people who have their radios on, on the way to work have them on, on their drive home from work.
Everyone has a bad book and the books aren't 100% accurate. However when someone is in a downward trend over a period of 5 books, it has nothing to do with one bad book or how accurate the books are.

O and A were still never #1 overall. They consistantly got beat by Lite FM.There is less competion in the afternoon.They still dropped to 7th place. Thats a pretty big slide.

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Tim- 6.5, thats a bad book, no, a 3.7, thats a bad book!!!

Originally posted by asteve5:
Tim- 6.5, thats a bad book, no, a 3.7, thats a bad book!!!

Stern has been on the air for decades. Same station, same timeslot. O&A have been around for nearly 3 years, with no advertising, no support, on a crappy station. Go figure.

Mike and the Mad Dog laugh at O&A's ratings...LOL

Douchebag O&A beat Mike & the and mad dog

Umm... tim you're wrong buddy o&a-3.7 mikeANDmaddogg-4.3

mike & mad dog got a 3.0

http://www.nydailynews.com/2001-04-23/New_York_Now/Television/a-108350.asp

ok tim... you were right, sorry, the article I saw must have been from last ratings period!!!

Opie and Anthony

7th place

Its over Johnny!

FJS if you knew anything about radio you would know one book doesn't mean shit. If they go down several books then you cam talk, but one book holds little meaning especially for a talk show. What matters is how a show trends over a period of time over the last 5 books O&A went up in 4 of them the exception was this book, and of the last 5 books Howard went down in 4 of them the exception was the summer 2000 book.

Tim, ain't it a shame that, Howard with his worst book(6.5) is still higher then o&a at their highest book(5.2)

Steve Howard has been around much longer. Howard wasn't exactly getting great ratings being in NY for less then 3 years.

Originally posted by TimJ:
If they go down several books then you cam talk, but one book holds little meaning especially for a talk show. What matters is how a show trends over a period of time over the last 5 books O&A went up in 4 of them the exception was this book, and of the last 5 books Howard went down in 4 of them the exception was the summer 2000 book.

TimmyJ, you've said this all at least a hundred times already.

Time to put a lid on it.

In the overall scheme of things, IT DOESN'T MATTER!

But I am honestly concerned about you.

Do you have many friends?

Do you have ANY other interests besides looking at Arbitron books?

How about a girlfriend?

A boyfriend?

A dog?

I know you're smiling now Timmy.

That's much better.

Now come over to "General Chatter" and have some REAL fun!

Gerry you actually think I go crazy inside with this shit?? I have fun with it especialy with douchebags like FJS.

Originally posted by TimJ:
Gerry you actually think I go crazy inside with this shit?? I have fun with it especialy with douchebags like FJS.

FJS isn't really such a bad guy.

I was goofing on him in General Chatter last night, but you know what?

I don't even remember why today. Most of the disagreements here are soon forgotten.

Just like with Cabbie and the Angry Black dude — one day you're bitter antagonists and the next day you might be the best of buddies.

The Crazy cabbie/Black fued is so fake just like Cabbie. He puts on this fake ass persona & kisses Howie's ass so he doen't get fired from K-COCK.

One other thing Gerry I really don't spend that much time on this board. With the fast cable connection & always being conected to the net everything is so quick, so unless I get into a long winded argument. I really don't spend more than 15 mins or so on the board.

Originally posted by TimJ:
The Crazy cabbie/Black fued is so fake just like Cabbie. He puts on this fake ass persona & kisses Howie's ass so he doen't get fired from K-COCK.

Possibly.

Probably.

But it still made for an entertaining show.

I first appreciated Cabbie when he won that foot race against that bloated pig, High Pitch Eric.

But after that, I quickly grew bored with his tough-talking, pseudo-macho schtick, especially when he dissed Houston, the porn star.

Only recently have I started enjoying him again IN SMALL DOSES.

Sure, a lot of it's fake, but so's wrestling, and it's made Vince McMahon a billionaire.

Originally posted by Gerry Lincoln:
Possibly. Probably. But it still made for an entertaining show. I first appreciated Cabbie when he won that foot race against that bloated pig, High Pitch Eric. But after that, I quickly grew bored with his tough-talking, pseudo-macho schtick, especially when he dissed Houston, the porn star. Only recently have I started enjoying him again IN SMALL DOSES. Sure, a lot of it's fake, but so's wrestling, and it's made Vince McMahon a billionaire.

Like I have said in other posts, I use to be a big Stern fan, but the show has gone downhill in the last couple years especially over the last year. I just find it boring and now you pretty much know what to expect every day. Its almost the exact same show every day. Some people think O&A are boring and I can respect that people can have their own opinion, but with O&A unlike Howard other then them getting screwed by management you never know what is going to happen.

Originally posted by TimJ:
Like I have said in other posts, I use to be a big Stern fan, but the show has gone downhill in the last couple years especially over the last year. I just find it boring and now you pretty much know what to expect every day. Its almost the exact same show every day. Some people think O&A are boring and I can respect that people can have their own opinion, but with O&A unlike Howard other then them getting screwed by management you never know what is going to happen.

Your guys?

Two words, Tim: "College radio."

I've actually enjoyed learning a bit about you tonight, that you actually have a life besides THAT show.

But now I gotta call it a night. I'm going out with a friend to repo a couple cars tonight and I LOVE driving those big Mercedes 500s.

Originally posted by Gerry Lincoln:
Your guys? Two words, Tim: "College radio."

If O&A sound like "college radio", I love college radio. It's smart, innovative, edgy, groundbreaking, entertaining and funny. Sure beats listening to someone's neurosis.

Say what you will Kansei but I have been searching the foundrymusic website looking for an O&A bit that I could post here for others to enjoy/hate/critic and I have yet been able to find ANYTHING remotely as good as what we are use to listening to every morning on K-Rock.

O & A is college radio? I'm glad a graduated with High Honors years ago. but not too long ok not to know what is the shits and what is the pits and so far in my investigation O& A is the latter.

Originally posted by kansei:
If O&A sound like "college radio", I love college radio. It's smart, innovative, edgy, groundbreaking, entertaining and funny. Sure beats listening to someone's neurosis.

So Kansei you're idea of "edgy", "entertaining" or "funny" is a "whip-cream bikini contest"?, or a "best-ass" contest?

Best ass or best whip cream bikini is much more edger then anything stern has ever done(sarcastic of course)

aSteve it may not be more edgier than what Stern has done in the past, but it's better than anything he has done since the divorce.

I'll take naked girls in whipped cream over a fat faggot in a stupid fight and a midget with a pea brained head getting married any day of the week.



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If O&A sound like "college radio", I love college radio. It's smart, innovative, edgy, groundbreaking, entertaining and funny. Sure beats listening to someone's neurosis

Let me preface my statement by saying that I do indeed listen to them from time to time. With that said, I disagree with most of your assertions pertaining to O&A.

Lets start from the beginning shall we? Their show, like many others will occasionally make an intelligent point. However, for the most part there on air conversations tend to deal with either sex or drinking. That brings me to your assertion that they are “edgy”. I might be inclined to give you that if you consider it edgy to spend your entire show trying to find new and different ways to describe the before mentioned drunken exploits and sex acts.

As far as being either innovative or groundbreaking, give me a break. I’ve seen nothing new or particularly impressive from these guys. The format for their show eerily similar to Howard’s whether you’d like to admit it or not. Even if you contend that Howard didn’t invent the format that their shows follow, you certainly can’t give them credit for inventing it unless there have been some major breakthroughs in time travel that I haven’t heard about.

If o&a are so edgy, why do they have a 3.7 rating???

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Jesus H. Christ!

Is this one an Auschwitz survivor?

Originally posted by Kang:
So Kansei you're idea of "edgy", "entertaining" or "funny" is a "whip-cream bikini contest"?, or a "best-ass" contest?

I don't care much about contests on the show. I think it's a good way for O&A to see naked chicks on a daily basis - good scam for them, and they share the pictures with the rest of us. The O&A show is not about contests.

Some of O&A "bits" I enjoy are: anything with Mike Tyson, "what did I learn on the show today", O&A's interaction with guests (Buzz from Home Alone, Breuer, Jim Norton, Kimmy from Survivor 2, Rodney Dangerfield, Jay Mohr), Opie's lunacy, Anthony's quick comebacks).

All this o&a talk makes me want to blow my head up, I better stop coming to hate mail before I kill myself!!!

Originally posted by kansei:
I don't care much about contests on the show. I think it's a good way for O&A to see naked chicks on a daily basis - good scam for them, and they share the pictures with the rest of us. The O&A show is not about contests. Some of O&A "bits" I enjoy are: anything with Mike Tyson, "what did I learn on the show today", O&A's interaction with guests (Buzz from Home Alone, Breuer, Jim Norton, Kimmy from Survivor 2, Rodney Dangerfield, Jay Mohr), Opie's lunacy, Anthony's quick comebacks).


Just curious Kansei, when you WERE a Stern show fan, what made you laugh, or what entertained you?( also, what didn't make you laugh, or what didn't entertain you?) Be honest, what guests did you like and which didn't you like.

Originally posted by thebrainguy:
I disagree with most of your assertions pertaining to O&A. Lets start from the beginning shall we? Their show, like many others will occasionally make an intelligent point. However, for the most part there on air conversations tend to deal with either sex or drinking.

I can identify with sex and drinking. These conversations are entertaining, and interlaced with quick quips.

On the other hand, I can't identify with Stern when his 8 foot TV won't descend from the ceiling just right, or when Stern is stalked by photographers.

That brings me to your assertion that they are “edgy”. I might be inclined to give you that if you consider it edgy to spend your entire show trying to find new and different ways to describe the before mentioned drunken exploits and sex acts.

I must consider it edgy listening to two guys on the radio inventing new ways of describing drunken sex exploits. It beats listening to Stern denying he has a girlfriend (although, he has admitted it in the last 2 or 3 weeks).

As far as being either innovative or groundbreaking, give me a break. I’ve seen nothing new or particularly impressive from these guys. The format for their show eerily similar to Howard’s whether you’d like to admit it or not. Even if you contend that Howard didn’t invent the format that their shows follow, you certainly can’t give them credit for inventing it unless there have been some major breakthroughs in time travel that I haven’t heard about.

Every day I turn on the TV, I see a number of shows that resemble each other. Few examples: Leno, Letterman, Daily Show. Extra, Access Hollywood. 60 Minutes, 20/20, Nightline. News shows on all the channels resemble each other, too.

With that said, the O&A show may "eerily resemble" the Stern show, and that's OK. I never claimed that O&A invented the radio talk format. O&A also credited Stern on the air with being one of the forefathers of the "shock jock" format (until Stern made Infinity prevent O&A from saying his name).

The whole "ripping off" business is a Stern tactic to prevent his diehard fans from listening to other radio shows. If Stern can make everyone think that he is the only original on the radio, those who believe it will likely not listen to the competition. Judging by this board, Stern succeeded.

In my opinion, the O&A show is full of fresh, new humor. It is funny in a constant fashion. Maybe it's the generation gap, but Stern never appealed to me this much.

Originally posted by asteve5:
If o&a are so edgy, why do they have a 3.7 rating???

It's an acquired taste. Is McDonald's the world's best restaurant just because it's on every street corner??

I gave you the solution yesterday young man.
Post something that you have enjoyed from their show that you think we may like.

This constant battle of words is getting
nowhere. SHOW US. Give us some examples of this new talent that we can listen to.

I know I know. Go over to foundrymusic. Most of us won't go. Bring it here dude.

I am open-minded about this. SHOW ME what you mean instead of telling me.

Originally posted by Kang:
Just curious Kansei, when you WERE a Stern show fan, what made you laugh, or what entertained you?( also, what didn't make you laugh, or what didn't entertain you?) Be honest, what guests did you like and which didn't you like.

I still am a Stern fan, although I'm somewhat disgruntled.

Funny Stern:
Channel 9 TV show
New Year's Rotten Eve PPV
Discussing his private life.
Stern's calls to his parents, wife, sister.
Stern's older interviews - Seinfeld was OK, can't think of any others just now.
Private Parts, the movie.
Beetlejuice (sometimes)
Jeffrey Ross
Bababooey
Stuttering John
Nicole Bass

Unfunny Stern:
Robin
Not discussing his private life.
Current TV shows: SOTB, E!, or CBS.
Crazy Cabbie.
Angry/Big/whatever Black
Jesus Twins
John the Stutterer
Elephant Boy
Stuffed Daughter - scam
Pornoween - a scam if there ever was one

Guess Whats in My Pants is innovative. WOW is innovative. Nothing is better when your stuck in traffic then to have a girl flash her boobs. The way O&A click with the guests they have is another thing special. Jeffry Ross as an example I thought he was funnier on O&A because of the way hey clicked with them, he was good on Howard, but came off better and funnier tha O&A. Other examples include HHH of the WWF, Kimmi from survivor she has been on O&A like 6 times. Like Pussah said I rather listen t onaked hot chicks then a fake fight & a fucked up midget. With Stern you never knew what to exect in the past now you know what pretty much is going to happen on a daily basid. With O&A you never know what to expect.

Originally posted by Doc:
SHOW US. Give us some examples of this new talent that we can listen to. I know I know. Go over to foundrymusic. Most of us won't go. Bring it here dude.

If you're truly open minded, you will try the following link:
http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/index.cfm

Click on "O&A Sound Bytes"
Click on "Go"
Pick an audio clip and listen.

Originally posted by kansei:
If you're truly open minded, you will try the following link: http://www.foundrymusic.com/media/index.cfm Click on "O&A Sound Bytes" Click on "Go" Pick an audio clip and listen.

Too much work for too little payoff.

Just post a sample.

Originally posted by Gerry Lincoln:
Too much work for too little payoff. Just post a sample.

I have been saying the same thing for days.

I think they are afraid to offer up something they consider funny for fear of ridicule.

Don't be afraid gentlemen. SHOW US. PROVE YOUR POINT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

Originally posted by Gerry Lincoln:
Too much work for too little payoff. Just post a sample.

Three clicks is too much work? It was more work to type your last message than to go there.

Here's a few. These are direct links to media files. I don't know what else you could ask for?
http://216.42.139.81/RA/breuer_scooter.zip
http://216.42.139.81/RA/OpVacuum121200.zip
http://216.42.139.81/MP3/OPIENUTS.zip
http://216.42.139.81/MP3/hp_eric_bomb_threat.zip
http://216.42.139.81/MP3/TourettesWhorehouse.zip
http://216.42.139.81/MP3/hundgrand.zip
http://216.42.139.81/RA/celine.zip
http://216.42.139.81/RA/ben_stein.zip

3.7, 7th place!!!

Originally posted by asteve5:
3.7, 7th place!!!

6.4, 2nd place. On the air nearly 20 years.
3.7, 7th place. On the air nearly 3 years.
You do the math.

Originally posted by Doc:
Don't be afraid gentlemen. SHOW US. PROVE YOUR POINT OR SHUT THE FUCK UP!!

It's Wednesday, boys, whip it out!

Not THAT TimJ !

kansei- 3.7, 7th place!!!

Originally posted by asteve5:
kansei- 3.7, 7th place!!!

asteve5 - 3.7, 7th place!!!

kensei- Now we agree on something, glad to see you finally see the truth!!!

Originally posted by asteve5:
kensei- Now we agree on something, glad to see you finally see the truth!!!

6.5, 2nd place.

I think a 6.5, 2nd place in morning(#1 time slot) is better then a 3.7, 7th place in afternoons(#2 time slot)
Don't you???

Originally posted by kansei:
I still am a Stern fan, although I'm somewhat disgruntled. Funny Stern: Channel 9 TV show New Year's Rotten Eve PPV Discussing his private life. Stern's calls to his parents, wife, sister. Stern's older interviews - Seinfeld was OK, can't think of any others just now. Private Parts, the movie. Beetlejuice (sometimes) Jeffrey Ross Bababooey Stuttering John Nicole Bass Unfunny Stern: Robin Not discussing his private life. Current TV shows: SOTB, E!, or CBS. Crazy Cabbie. Angry/Big/whatever Black Jesus Twins John the Stutterer Elephant Boy Stuffed Daughter - scam Pornoween - a scam if there ever was one

Thanks for the extensive reply Kansei. The only conclusion that I can come to, is that different things make different people laugh.
The stuff you listed that you liked, wouldn't be at the top of my list(Some of the stuff would be on my list, but pretty further down).

There was a thread in general chatter a couple of months ago, asking fans the best stuff they have heard on the Stern show, and people had alot of different ideas about their favorite shows. When I think of the funniest Stern shows I've heard, Gilbert Gottfried is the first guest that comes to mind. From the late 80's to present day he is my favorite guest, hands down. Yet for as long as I can remember, he would come on, and there would be callers telling Howard that Gilbert sucked, or that he wasn't funny.It's sort of a barometer for me, if a person likes Gilbert, than they usually share my sense of humor(You didn't mention Gilbert).Not that my sense of humor is any better than anybody elses, it's just DIFFERENT.)

Alot of the stuff you mentioned about the "O&A", is the stuff I don't like about their show, but that's just my taste.

Most of the stuff that you listed, that you didn't like about Stern's show, I could agree with.

3.7, 7th place!!!

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Originally posted by TimJ:
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Originally posted by TimJ:
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Ok Tim, you passed the test.

Now, using the "Edit" function, go back and say something.

A post is a terrible thing to waste!

c'mon, Gerry, what do expect from the little brain dead, pillow bitter???

Originally posted by asteve5:
c'mon, Gerry, what do expect from the little brain dead, pillow bitter???

Steve I don't think Timmy is brain dead, but I do think he needs to be de-programmed.

You live in New York. Why don't you take him out for a walk or something?

Gerry- I tried to take him for a walk but I couldn't find his leash!!!

The newer messages weren't appearing on my screen it just stopped at an older post.

Originally posted by TimJ:
The newer messages weren't appearing on my screen it just stopped at an older post.

Yeah, that's happening to all of us.

Mutt explained it in the "what the hell?" thread last night.

Another great O&A bit is the wiffle ball bat challenge. They have ladies insert a bat up the front and they mark how far the bat has gone. At the end of the year the lady who insrted the bat th furthest wins a prize. As I type this porn star Nici Sterling is about to take the Wiffle Ball Bat Challenge

Originally posted by TimJ:
Another great O&A bit is the wiffle ball bat challenge.
I spoke with an O&A behind the scenes guy who informed me, in anonimity, that the next great O&A bit will be when they tie up and blindfold TimJ and bring him to Haiti, via the Dominican Republic, where he will we be sold to a local Voodoo Shaman, who will dress TimJ up as a rooster and let the local youths take turns stoning him.

Originally posted by TimJ:
Another great O&A bit is the wiffle ball bat challenge. They have ladies insert a bat up the front and they mark how far the bat has gone. At the end of the year the lady who insrted the bat th furthest wins a prize. As I type this porn star Nici Sterling is about to take the Wiffle Ball Bat Challenge

I bet o&a put the bats up their ass's
Did u ever take the bat challenge?, tim

No Steve, by the way Nici Sterling broke the old record for the wiffle ball bat challenge. She got the bad in 7 inches. I wonder what I would rather listen to girls sticking a wiffle ball bat in their most intimate or Crazy Faggie

Originally posted by TimJ:
I wonder what I would rather listen to girls sticking a wiffle ball bat in their most intimate or Crazy Faggie


Yeah, Tim, a lot of us have been wondering about you.

(Just teasing you)

Thats great Tim. Im sure the bat will be put into the Broadcasting Hall of Fame.

Originally posted by spindry:
I spoke with an O&A behind the scenes guy who informed me, in anonimity, that the next great O&A bit will be when they tie up and blindfold TimJ and bring him to Haiti, via the Dominican Republic, where he will we be sold to a local Voodoo Shaman, who will dress TimJ up as a rooster and let the local youths take turns stoning him.

Spindry, that's funny.

Originally posted by TimJ:
No Steve, by the way Nici Sterling broke the old record for the wiffle ball bat challenge. She got the bad in 7 inches. I wonder what I would rather listen to girls sticking a wiffle ball bat in their most intimate or Crazy Faggie

3.7, 7th place!!!

Originally posted by Kang:
Thanks for the extensive reply Kansei. The only conclusion that I can come to, is that different things make different people laugh. ... When I think of the funniest Stern shows I've heard, Gilbert Gottfried is the first guest that comes to mind. From the late 80's to present day he is my favorite guest, hands down. ... Alot of the stuff you mentioned about the "O&A", is the stuff I don't like about their show, but that's just my taste. Most of the stuff that you listed, that you didn't like about Stern's show, I could agree with.

I agree that everyone has different tastes. When it comes to Gottfried, I like him OK, but he is not on my top list. I also wanted to add that Stern, in my opinion, climbed out of the "hole" this week, cutting down on Cabbie (somewhat), and introducing some (sorely needed) frank discussion about his life.

Originally posted by kansei:
I agree that everyone has different tastes. When it comes to Gottfried, I like him OK, but he is not on my top list. I also wanted to add that Stern, in my opinion, climbed out of the "hole" this week, cutting down on Cabbie (somewhat), and introducing some (sorely needed) frank discussion about his life.

Once again Kansei, thank you for you're response."OK", just ain't good enuff. When I used to subscribe to "Details", several years ago,(maybe 5 or 6 years ago), they asked a bunch of show biz people what they, "went out of their way" to watch on Television. Jud Apatow(comedy writer and producer), who got an Emmy for the Larry Sander's show, and wrote "The Cable Guy" (very underrated), and the T.V show " Freaks and Geeks", was asked. He said when he heard that whenever Gottfried was on Stern's show, doing the "news", he would "drop everything" and get to the f**ng radio. When I read this, I thought to myself this guy "gets it". If you are only "OK", about Gilbert, that means that you and I have different views about comedy.

Originally posted by Kang:
If you are only "OK", about Gilbert, that means that you and I have different views about comedy.

Apparently, we do have different views about comedy. I like Gilbert, but a lot of the time he is a bit too "zany" for my taste. I did hear the Gilbert segment(s) on Stern, and they were certainly funny.

Originally posted by kansei:
Apparently, we do have different views about comedy. I like Gilbert, but a lot of the time he is a bit too "zany" for my taste. I did hear the Gilbert segment(s) on Stern, and they were certainly funny.


Different views on comedy, there is nothing wrong with that. Last week on Stern's show they played a clip(from a few years back)of Joey Ramone and Marky Ramone going at it. Marky was saying that Joey was really a Siamese twin, Joey contested that Marky wore a wig, they had a countdown to see if they would both apologize at the same time. It was one of the funniest things I've ever heard. Funnier than anything I've heard on "O&A", but that's MY( and alot of fellow board member's)OPINION.
You said that you liked Dangerfield on "O&A," I tuned in and didn't think it was that great. I would trade 50 Dangerfield appearances on "O&A", for the Dangerfield appearance on Stern's show several years back, when Dangerfield had a confrontation with Jackie Martling about money( several thousand bucks, I believe) Jackie owed Rodney from the early 80,s.Talk about tension, it was pretty damned good radio.

Personally, I do think Anthony is one of the funniest guys on the radio,when he isn't jumping in and out of impressions. Tyson?,Reagan? no thanks, people have been doing a variation of those impressions for years. In my opinion the personal stuff is usually the funniest. A couple weeks ago I tuned in, and he was doing an improvised bit about travelling to Boston, where he was always his lush mother-in-law's handyman. It was genuine, you could really sense the pathos, pretty funny. The show then degenerated with the orange-haired nitwit ranting about K-rock, I went back to Wfan. Too bad.

Could Stern's show be better? Yes. Does he need a slap in the face(metaphorically speaking) Probably.

(BTW, best line of last week goes to Jeff Ross, " John Travolta is now very heavily into S&M......Spaghetti and meatballs. Hahaha.(that's a good one))