I'm adding to our posting guidelines (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89280) some answers to common complaints / questions.

You've all heard the complainers calling into the show and posting here at SFN. I'm paying $12.95 a month, Howard is making $500 million, and he's taking off Fridays, WAHHH!!! Howard lied, WAAAAHH!! I'm returning my radio, WA WA WAAAAHH!!! I'm sick and tired of hearing the anti-Howard smear campaign so lets dispel the bullshit now.

- Howard taking Off Fridays
- Howard's Salary
- Howard lied about what Sirius would cost.
- Online Streaming[hr]

Howard taking Off Fridays

There is constant bitching about Howard taking Fridays off and having 10 weeks of vacation. Though it might appear that you'll be getting 20% less Howard Stern, it's just not so. You actually get 20% more.

UPDATE: Howard announced that he will not be taking off every Friday. He will sometimes come in & do the show when he doesn't have meetings scheduled. There is no word on how offen he'll do a Friday.

First it's not fridays off plus more vactaion. Howard used to have 8 five day weeks off and now he has 10 four day weeks off. No matter how you look at it, it's 40 days. if you want to bitch about Fridays, at least accept it's the same amount of vacation.

Also, to everyone that says Howard hid this from us, it's not true. We've all known for a year. When the $500 million 5 year deal hit the papers they also reported about the 4 day week and the 10 weeks of vacation. If you knew about the $500 mill, you knew about the new schedule. It was mentioned on air several times. If you say you didn't know, you are a liar.

Old Howard
6-10:30AM with a five or six 15-20 minute commercial breaks.
thats 4.5 hrs - 100 minutes or 2.8 hrs live each day
which works out to 14 hrs live per week
Howard used to work 44 weeks a year which works out to 623 hrs of Howard a year

New Howard
6-11AM with a five 6 minute commercial breaks
thats 5 hrs - 30 minutes or 4.5 hrs live each day
which works out to 18 hrs live per week
Howard will be working 42 weeks a year which works out to 756 hrs a year

So for everyone who can't understand this
4 days of Sirius Howard Stern = 6 days of KROCK Howard Stern!!

by the end of the year even with his extra 2 weeks off well have an additional 133 hrs of Howard. Thats 21% more Stern!!!!! it's not less anything. You will hear Howard live more than ever before.

We didn't even start talking about all the additional Howard that we get now. The After Show, the Friday show, the news, the intern show, the super fan show. it's more Stern than you could ever want.

Also, besides these normal show hours, Howard will be live some Fridays and there will surely be additional shows like the New Years Eve special.

The Friday Show with Gary, Ralph, & Jon Hein will be full of Stern Show staff & regulars plus it will be packed with the best stuff from the week and classic old Stern which you may have never heard. It is sure to fill your Stern Show needs.

Now STFU!!!

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Howard's Salary

We hear everyone say that Howard makes $500 million. His budget for 3 radio stations is $100 million a year for 5 years. Everyone of his employees gets paid out of that $100 million. Thats the entire Howard Stern Show crew, the H100 News Team, Bubba the Love Sponge, Danny Boneduce, and everyone else on air or behind the scenes for H100, H101, & H102. I'm sure there's plenty left over for him, but when it's all said and done I wouldn't be surprised if it's less than he was making at KROCK. You can be sure that Robin, Fred, Artie, & Gary take a big chunk out of that $100 mill.

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Howard lied about what Sirius would cost.

I'm tired of seeing lot of bad math claiming that after you take all of Howard's days off the show costs $2 a day or some shit so here's the real deal. 1 year of Sirius is $142.45 or 39 cents a day.

if you are only buying Sirius for live Howard and don't want to count all of the spinoff shows, replays, or the 100 other channels of programing, you are paying 19 cents an hour for Live Stern. or 85 cents for each day Howard is live. This takes into consideration all of Howards days off including fridays, vacations, and holidays.

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Online Streaming
Right now it's not possible. The current online stream is meant as a sample of what Sirius offers and not as a real listening alternative. The setup they use simply can not handle streaming to all of us. You may not be aware but from the time H100 went on the air to the time Howard said his first words on Sirius, H100 was secretly being streamed online by Sirius under another channel. Even without letting people know it was there people found it and listened. A show as small as The Super Fan Roundtable drew enough listeners to kill the system. The sound would dropout and you'd miss chunks of the conversation. You can only imagine how bad it would be if it was Howard on air.

Howard announced that Sirius has hired additional people to work on rebuilding the streaming setup in an effort to make Howard available. He said they won't even consider streaming it until they are sure that it will be perfect and without dropouts. There is no promise that it will ever be streamed, but this was the first real sign that they are trying to make it happen.

Sign up to let them know you'd like it streamed (http://www.sirius.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=Sirius/Page&c=FlexContent&cid=1130574541451) and they'll notify you if it becomes available.

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Please add anything else that we need.

As for my Howard Stern math, any help fine tuning the number of commercial breaks and how long they are at both KROCK and on Sirius would be appreciated. I don't want to leave any room for discrepancies

I'm no kiss ass, I'm just tired of seeing the same bullshit over and over.

This site is for fans. It's where people who like the show talk about what happened or what they'd like to hear in the future. If you don't like one aspect of the show, tell us about it. just don't be a dickhead.

If you just want to trash someone from the show or bitch and moan about how it sucks, this isn't the site for you. Don't tell me about free speech and censorship. it's not like that. we simply don't want stern haters in our fan club. maybe it's fun for you to bitch about the show, but it ruins the fan experience for the rest of us.

UPDATE: to everyone in this thread that says something stupid like I'm telling people what they can say because of Howard, FUCK YOU!! Leave this site and never come back!! I'm saying this because for all of the other real fans here, this crap has already gotten very old and you annoy us. Every jr member that tells me how I should run the site or insults me with some bullshit theory about how I'm restricting your freedoms, you are an insane asshole and I will get rid of you. It's not because you have something negative to say about the show. We all have something negative to say. look around you blind prick. there negative shit in almost every thread. It's because you will not fit in here and I already don't like you.



No what else bugs me? There are always complaints like "I have to work 6 days a week and it's bullshit that Howard needs so much time off". This is just plain stupid. How successful or unsuccessful your career has been has nothing to do with how Howard should spend his day. You might as well bitch that doctors make lots of money, drive sports cars, and get lots of poon. BooHoo, I have to work and don't get any poon. People also bitch that for all that money he could work more. Howard has 2 radio channels and a TV channel to program. Just because he's not on air, doesn't mean he's off. I know this will trigger lots of Mutt is brainwashed posts, but I'm just tired of hearing dumb shit.

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:rolleyes: so sad this even needs to be addresed,

grab your purses and put a tampax in (no offense ladies)

F Sal

I have no problem with the 4 day schedule. It's that they say how great it is, when it isn't and Ralph. Make it a Best of the week with some commentary and call ins and get ralph the hell out of there and we would like it much better

Way to go Mutt !!!!! We're in much better shape now thanks to Howard's move to Sirius... :cool:

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Nice KO mutt!

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Thank Christ.


Why are you clapping your hands Pussah? You're one of the whiners in the "Friday show sucks" thread.

I agree. I record the show to listen in my car every day, and now I cannot possibly hear all the show within the time I travel in my car each week. I also listen in the morning, and I still can't get it all in, and I don't even listen to the after show and all that stuff.

Thank Christ.


Why are you clapping your hands Pussah? You're one of the whiners in the "Friday show sucks" thread.

I did not whine about the 4 days. I whined about Ralph and the show was not that good.


Also Mutt is really good at math

mutt mathematics. :tu:

Agree with everything you wrote.

It's like worrying about how much money the Yankees spend or some such bullshit. It's not your money, it's Sirius' money. If you think it's a bad deal, don't buy the fucking stock.

As for the cost, shit, a month of Sirius cost the same as a decent lunch in LA. It's nothing. And if you really can't afford it, don't pay. But don't complain about it.

Finally, there's some good shit on Sirius. And there's some shit I've never heard before and now I can check it out. It's not just two stations for 13 bucks or whatever.

Re the "Taking off Fridays", you might want to also mention that this isn't something that was sprung upon folks once Howard started on Sirius. I don't know when the exact date was this was first mentioned (maybe somebody knows?), but people using that as an excuse are getting on my nerves.

he talked about it on krock

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even my complaning ass knows Sirius is far more Howard content than Krock could ever be...but i'm pretty good at math.

good job 'showing all work' for the math challenged here, Mutt!

Everybody needs something to bitch about, They'll just find something else now.

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Amen!!! :clap:

It just seems EVERYTIME a "bitch" thread appears a bunch of posters come out of nowhere that no one has ever seen and are on major hating bandwagons. I'm not saying new posters do not have valid opinions and don't desever to express them, it just seems very SUSPECT.

For instance the guy that started the "friday sucks thread" was clearly a STERN HATER. All his comments were like "if Stern shit you would all worship it, he's an overpaid loser" blah blah blah. He was obviously a troll that came to start some shit for the sake of starting shit then a bunch of fucking mindless sheep follow suit

The Friday Show was not even remotely as bad as that thread indicated it was... I mean read that fucking thread, it looks like an O&A or any other STERN HATING thread on another board.

Sorry but I call fucking Shenangians and those of you that follow suit should be ashamed for being puppets.

Re the "Taking off Fridays", you might want to also mention that this isn't something that was sprung upon folks once Howard started on Sirius. I don't know when the exact date was this was first mentioned (maybe somebody knows?), but people using that as an excuse are getting on my nerves.

thanks, just added it

hopefully this will put an end to it. Amen brother

And there are puppets here that are quick to make derogatory comments about posters that have a differing opinion or question the greatness of the show. There's good and bad stuff about the show. If we all act like sheep we're no different than the jerkoffs that you mentioned.

I am not complaining as I never have about Howard or Sirius BUT

1 year of Sirius is $142.45 or 39 cents a day.

Plus the receiver $75
plus the boombox or other portable listening device $100
plus the installation in my CRV. $100

So my first year total is $1.14 a day ($417.45)

I am not being a smartass or bucking the boat I am stating that it is not just the year subscription but it is also the cost of the peripherals to run it.

BUT because of content and the amount of channels I think that it is 100% worth it.
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And taking off Fridays is ok with be because the show is so much better and entertaining now.

I think it's insanely awesome he goes to 11 and beyond. Only a handful of times at Krock he would go to 10:45 10:50! I can't remember an 11 ever! 9/11 being a different situation.

I think it's insanely awesome he goes to 11 and beyond.

I agree, the longer the shows the better.

I count my Sirius has cheap at double the price. I haven't listened to "old-fashioned, boring radio" since I installed it.

Way to go Mutt....

And this is why Mutt rocks. Thanks dude, and keep up the good work. As always though, it too bad some people still won't get it and continue to bitch about it :rolleyes:

I will still bitch about 10 weeks of Vacation, only because I am jealous! Thanks for the info Mutt.

It just seems EVERYTIME a "bitch" thread appears a bunch of posters come out of nowhere that no one has ever seen and are on major hating bandwagons. I'm not saying new posters do not have valid opinions and don't desever to express them, it just seems very SUSPECT.

For instance the guy that started the "friday sucks thread" was clearly a STERN HATER. All his comments were like "if Stern shit you would all worship it, he's an overpaid loser" blah blah blah. He was obviously a troll that came to start some shit for the sake of starting shit then a bunch of fucking mindless sheep follow suit

The Friday Show was not even remotely as bad as that thread indicated it was... I mean read that fucking thread, it looks like an O&A or any other STERN HATING thread on another board.

Sorry but I call fucking Shenangians and those of you that follow suit should be ashamed for being puppets.

not to defend his thread but he is definitely NOT a stern 'hater'. he's a member of the best underground stern filesharing site online. he just got wound up about the show today for some reason.

I am not complaining as I never have about Howard or Sirius BUT



Plus the receiver $75
plus the boombox or other portable listening device $100
plus the installation in my CRV. $100

So my first year total is $1.14 a day ($417.45)

I am not being a smartass or bucking the boat I am stating that it is not just the year subscription but it is also the cost of the peripherals to run it.

BUT because of content and the amount of channels I think that it is 100% worth it.
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And taking off Fridays is ok with be because the show is so much better and entertaining now.

I am not bashing you Cyber Bishop, but I wanted to take this chance and explain something for all the people that bitch about equipment costs.

Do you own a TV? Did your cable or Sattelite provider give it to you? Probably not. Most people buy their TV so they can enjoy the content which can be viewed at an additional cost from some other service. And when did FM radios become free? I know I have paid for each one that I have ever listened to Howard on in the past.

All I am saying is...Don't act like buying equipment is a new concept. It's a part of life as we know it.

Everything Mutt writes here is pretty self-evident. It's hard to understand why it's not more commonly understood. The funny thing about all this, is how many people are in a position to listen for all 4 plus hours per day anyway? For people to complain about Fridays when they can't listen to every hour of live programming is silly. I understand the reality of commercials, but I reserve the right to hate commercials anyway. I have no patience for commercials whether they're on Howard or elsewhere. It would have been wonderful to have the first month commercial-free. I do however like it when commercials are humorous. You would think that advertisers going after Stern's audience would make the effort to make commercials that would be specifically for this audience. The cost of making these Stern-tailored commercials would be recouped ten-fold by the greatly increased effectiveness of said commercials. So is it written, so (I pray) it shall be. As for the cost of getting Sirius, it's not that bad and it's fun to have a new toy. Thanks to this web site for the Promo codes.

Regarding the critics and naysayers who post to this forum -- I find them entertaining, and it's pretty easy to enlighten them with a rational argument. I mean really, how can you be angry for someone wanting more Howard or less commercials or cheaper Sirius -- I'd also like more pussy -- so sue me.

FYI many radio stations produce commercials for their advertisers. Sure this is often done as an inducement to advertise in the first place. I suggest Sirius/Stern spin off an in-house revenue generating ad agency for this purpose. They could start by hiring a few numb-nuts Mamalookabooboodere from the SFN to write some of these fanmercials.

he talked about it on krock

I never heard it but I saw it on the howard 100 schedule on the website long before.

It's nice to see that there are still some people who remember that SFN stands for -Stern FAN Network-. Not -Stupid Fucking whiNers-. Way to go Mutt..you :band: :2thumbs:

not to defend his thread but he is definitely NOT a stern 'hater'. he's a member of the best underground stern filesharing site online. he just got wound up about the show today for some reason.



Not a stern hater? That whole thread was full of the regular STERN hating quotes from him, "You would all worship Stern if he shit in a box" blah blah blah. Here is just one of many quotes from him:


Your an asskisser, a dick smoker, and a hoagie honker that you would defend some overpaid creep taking off on Friday's and putting that no talent assclown Gary on in his place.


So this "Stern Fan" is calling Howard an overpaid creep and Gary a no talent ass clown? Yeah sounds like a real fan to me. I'm glad your buttbuddy got the gay and I hope you're next fucker :hw:

Not a stern hater? That whole thread was full of the regular STERN hating quotes from him, "You would all worship Stern if he shit in a box" blah blah blah. Here is just one of many quotes from him:





So this "Stern Fan" is calling Howard an overpaid creep and Gary a no talent ass clown? Yeah sounds like a real fan to me. I'm glad your buttbuddy got the gay and I hope you're next fucker :hw:

Way to be rational. I even started the post with the fact that I cant defend his actions today but was pointing out the fact that he has proven in the past he's a pretty big fan. Talk about bad attitudes ... someone should look in the mirror.

Thanks Mutt! It's about time we shut those complainers up...

I'm in love with Mutt.

People just hate change. things will be back to normal soon.

When the show was on terrestrial radio I had to download to listen because of my market. I downloaded the Commercial-Free versions and, generally, they were about 3:39 minutes per show without commercials.

[edit: I'll pull out a few to double check. Also, I do agree with the value statement, regardless. If I see one more person say they're cancelling because they didn't like something he did...]

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right on Mutt...
plus the other thing is no joke either and the person involved
sounds upset,,knock off the lame remarks...
lawyers could be reading this stuff ...
do you want to sound like a bunch of morons???

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right on Mutt...
plus the other thing is no joke either and the person involved
sounds upset,,knock off the lame remarks...
lawyers could be reading this stuff ...
do you want to sound like a bunch of morons???

Shut up Doc.

Way to be rational. I even started the post with the fact that I cant defend his actions today but was pointing out the fact that he has proven in the past he's a pretty big fan. Talk about bad attitudes ... someone should look in the mirror.


Sorry, but these haters have put me in defensive mode. I have a long time vested interest in this site and I don't like seeing douchebags ruin it.

not to defend his thread but he is definitely NOT a stern 'hater'. he's a member of the best underground stern filesharing site online. he just got wound up about the show today for some reason.

he also got gay

Right on Mutt!!! It kills me that people don't realize they are getting more content in 4 days on Sirius than in 5 days on KROCK.

I pulled a few old shows, commercial free versions, at random.

'95 show: 3 hours, 26 minutes
'97 show: 3 hours, 29 minutes
'99 show: 4 hours, 5 minutes
'02 show: 3 hours, 41 minutes
'05 show: 3 hours, 35 minutes

I am not complaining as I never have about Howard or Sirius BUT



Plus the receiver $75
plus the boombox or other portable listening device $100
plus the installation in my CRV. $100

So my first year total is $1.14 a day ($417.45)

I am not being a smartass or bucking the boat I am stating that it is not just the year subscription but it is also the cost of the peripherals to run it.

BUT because of content and the amount of channels I think that it is 100% worth it.
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And taking off Fridays is ok with be because the show is so much better and entertaining now.

my radio cost $50

he also got gay

I dont understand why but I will accept it. I guess I will have to be more careful for a while.

not to defend his thread but he is definitely NOT a stern 'hater'. he's a member of the best underground stern filesharing site online. he just got wound up about the show today for some reason.

yeah that was wierd... sflocco must have been drunk or something :D Im not even sure that was the real deal. may have been one of those O&A retards starting shit...

Thanks for doing all the math for me, I was actually thinking about this today while driving around listening to danny.

I fucking love sirius.

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right on Mutt...
plus the other thing is no joke either and the person involved
sounds upset,,knock off the lame remarks...
lawyers could be reading this stuff ...
do you want to sound like a bunch of morons???

WTF are you talking about? I don't like you.

Sorry, but these haters have put me in defensive mode. I have a long time vested interest in this site and I don't like seeing douchebags ruin it.

Completely understood ... I wasnt arguing the point. I was just pointing out that sometimes people have irrational responses and just need time to relax. I thought that was the point of time out or whatever its called. I've been here a while myself and try not to go crazy even if I have something negative to add. As I said before ... You cant defend his actions in that thread even if you didnt like todays show. I've hit the alert button myself recently and caught hell for that as well. Damned no matter which way you turn.

I dont understand why but I will accept it. I guess I will have to be more careful for a while.

that guy was one of the stern haters for certain. it wasn't the normal disgruntled fan. maybe it wasn't your friend and just someone who signed up using his screen name from another site

I pulled a few old shows, commercial free versions, at random.

'95 show: 3 hours, 26 minutes
'97 show: 3 hours, 29 minutes
'99 show: 4 hours, 5 minutes
'02 show: 3 hours, 41 minutes
'05 show: 3 hours, 35 minutes

this doens't seem possible to me but I'll take your word for it. any idea how long todays show is when it's commercial free? this would be very helpful.

that guy was one of the stern haters for certain. it wasn't the normal disgruntled fan. maybe it wasn't your friend and just someone who signed up using his screen name from another site

I think I misunderstood your post ... I thought you gave me 'the gay' for defending him or something.

this doens't seem possible to me but I'll take your word for it. any idea how long todays show is when it's commercial free? this would be very helpful.

That's what I thought too, but I checked. In fact, most of them have the bits before american nightmare starts cut out, so that's another few minutes at least...

Lemme check on a current Sirius show Commercial free. Once sec...

I think it's insanely awesome he goes to 11 and beyond. Only a handful of times at Krock he would go to 10:45 10:50! I can't remember an 11 ever! 9/11 being a different situation.

Sam Kinison and Meg Griffin used to stretch the show out back in the day. I believe the day Sam was drunk and supposed to do the Joan Rivers show they were on the air almost until noon!

That was when Sam had the classic line about Ted Kennedy being "The Shemp of the Kennedys"

God I miss that guy

this doens't seem possible to me but I'll take your word for it. any idea how long todays show is when it's commercial free? this would be very helpful.

That wasnt the norm for Krock shows ... There were days the show went VERY long and they had to catch up on commercials after Howard left the air. I remember one day long ago The show was still on air when I was going on lunch break.

Sorry, but these haters have put me in defensive mode. I have a long time vested interest in this site and I don't like seeing douchebags ruin it.

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That wasnt the norm for Krock shows ... There were days the show went VERY long and they had to catch up on commercials after Howard left the air. I remember one day long ago The show was still on air when I was going on lunch break.

I pulled these shows at random just opening a folder for that year and openning one. Random pulls would indicate the norm. Want 5 more?

I have every show back to '94 barring best of's on cd ... ill check mine too.

:worship: Good work Mutt!

I say Howard 4 days a week is better than no Howard at all...I could only listen a handful of times a year when i traveled in the last 6 years...I missed hearing the show and there was no way to get it...Sirius is great, Howard is greater...no complaints about the 4 days!!

this doens't seem possible to me but I'll take your word for it. any idea how long todays show is when it's commercial free? this would be very helpful.

5 random shows from the month of January on Sirius, Commercial free:

4 hours, 5 minutes
4 hours, 10 minutes
4 hours, 22 minutes
4 hours, 13 minutes
4 hours, 23 minutes

Average new shows time, commercial free: 4 hours, 14.6 minutes

I have every show back to '94 barring best of's on cd ... ill check mine too.

I pulled a best of show from 2002 and it was 2 hours, 59 minutes comm-free. The best ofs were considerably shorter.

I am on both sides of this argument. I can accept that Howard has been around long enough to warrant taking the extra day off. But I also see why some people are pissed off about it.

I'm pretty disappointed Mutt, all of a sudden expressing opinons is verboten...

Let me point his out, not to bitch, but because it's the truth:

-10 weeks of holidays.
-52 weeks a year taking Friday off (assuming he takes them all off) minus the 10 Fridays he was already taking off duing the 10 weeks holiday = 42 days.
-add it up and that's 18.4 weeks that Howard is not on the air.

I think that people have a legit gripe about that, and the reason they do is that unlike boring, old fashioned radio, they pay for the service. So, the spin that there are less commercials is lost on me. Less commericals was part of the tradeoff for having to pay, which we all accept. But less commercials shouldn't be used to justify 18.4 weeks off a year.

Just my humble opinion, dude. I mean no offense. :cool:

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I'm pretty disappointed Mutt, all of a sudden expressing opinons is verboten...



Expressing opinions isn't verboten... being a Stern hating asshole is. There is a difference.

Sweeeeet.

First of all, I don't plan on unsubscribing, and I don't plan on complaining about it much longer. However -

You guys can crunch this math all you want. Bottom line is, most people can only catch Stern on their morning commute. So the simple fact is, they used to be able to listen to Stern 5 days a week, now they only get 4. It sucks. Plain and simple.

Stick these numbers and formulas in your ass!

Fucking mathletes.

So we're only allowed to post on this forum if we kiss Howard's ass and never mention any gripes we might have about the show? :rolleyes:

I admit that it gets a bit annoying with all these posts saying"how dare he take off friday's with his salary" etc etc...
But listen to what Howard said about the FCC coming after Satelitte radio......"whats next the internet?...soon they'll start burning books"

This is how the bullshit starts, censor one thing, then another.........and before long you may as well call this place the Nazi Network :(

Its either all or nothing

I am on both sides of this argument. I can accept that Howard has been around long enough to warrant taking the extra day off. But I also see why some people are pissed off about it.

I'm pretty disappointed Mutt, all of a sudden expressing opinons is verboten...

Let me point his out, not to bitch, but because it's the truth:

-10 weeks of holidays.
-52 weeks a year taking Friday off (assuming he takes them all off) minus the 10 Fridays he was already taking off duing the 10 weeks holiday = 42 days.
-add it up and that's 18.4 weeks that Howard is not on the air.

I think that people have a legit gripe about that, and the reason they do is that unlike boring, old fashioned radio, they pay for the service. So, the spin that there are less commercials is lost on me. Less commericals was part of the tradeoff for having to pay, which we all accept. But less commercials shouldn't be used to justify 18.4 weeks off a year.

Just my humble opinion, dude. I mean no offense. :cool:

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Expressing opinions isn't verboten... being a Stern hating asshole is. There is a difference.

Yeah and I can distinguish between those two. But the tone of this thread is that no one should complain about anything Howard related anymore. Right or wrong, that's the tone.

OUTSTANDING!

thank you, thank you, thank you.

i have rights, what about free speech, i'm the biggest fan there is i can complain about the show if i want. all you all can fuck off.

i come here to praise the man, not defend him.

bye bye

:D

First of all, I don't plan on unsubscribing, and I don't plan on complaining about it much longer. However -

You guys can crunch this math all you want. Bottom line is, most people can only catch Stern on their morning commute. So the simple fact is, they used to be able to listen to Stern 5 days a week, now they only get 4. It sucks. Plain and simple.

Stick these numbers and formulas in your ass!

Fucking mathletes.

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Shut the fuck up. Mutt asked a question about times. We're trying to have a civilized conversation over here.

[edit: I disagree with your approach, but you do make one good point: what matters to me is having his show during all my work days. So yeah, that is a bummer, but at least he didn't fucking retire which would have been far worse...]

I pulled a few old shows, commercial free versions, at random.

'95 show: 3 hours, 26 minutes
'97 show: 3 hours, 29 minutes
'99 show: 4 hours, 5 minutes
'02 show: 3 hours, 41 minutes
'05 show: 3 hours, 35 minutes

How is this possible? Did you include his "live" commercials? Remember, he used to break in to a 20-25 minute commercial set with a live commercial that sometimes went on for 5 minutes. I know, I used to time it (while flipping channels).

I am on both sides of this argument. I can accept that Howard has been around long enough to warrant taking the extra day off. But I also see why some people are pissed off about it.

I'm pretty disappointed Mutt, all of a sudden expressing opinons is verboten...

Let me point his out, not to bitch, but because it's the truth:

-10 weeks of holidays.
-52 weeks a year taking Friday off (assuming he takes them all off) minus the 10 Fridays he was already taking off duing the 10 weeks holiday + 42 days.
-add it up and that's 18.4 weeks that Howard is not on the air.

I think that people have a legit gripe about that, and the reason they do is that unlike boring, old fashioned radio, they pay for the service. So, the spin that there are less commercials is lost on me. Less commericals was part of the tradeoff for having to pay, which we all accept. But less commercials shouldn't be used to justify 18.4 weeks off a year.

Just my humble opinion, dude. I mean no offense. :cool:

first where did I say anythign about expressing opinions was forbiden?

next, this is a classic example of the bad math people keep posting. I don't even know what you are tring to say. this is why I spelt it out.

you can't take 365 - weekends - fridays - holidays - 10 weeks vactaiton. you are subtracting too many days.

some of those holidays are on weekends and fridays so you are subtacting them twice. Also, he doens't have 10 weeks + holidays. He has 10 weeks period.

his 10 week vactions are 4 day weeks meaning 40 days.

his old 8 week vactions were 5 day weeks meaning 40 days

it's not 10 extra weeks off.

First of all, I don't plan on unsubscribing, and I don't plan on complaining about it much longer. However -

You guys can crunch this math all you want. Bottom line is, most people can only catch Stern on their morning commute. So the simple fact is, they used to be able to listen to Stern 5 days a week, now they only get 4. It sucks. Plain and simple.

Stick these numbers and formulas in your ass!

Fucking mathletes.

See...there was my way of posting questioning this thread, and then there's yours....

Guess which one wasn't the way to go, dopey.....

How is this possible? Did you include his "live" commercials? Remember, he used to break in to a 20-25 minute commercial set with a live commercial that sometimes went on for 5 minutes. I know, I used to time it (while flipping channels).

My commercial frees have the live commercials cut out.

First of all, I don't plan on unsubscribing, and I don't plan on complaining about it much longer. However -

You guys can crunch this math all you want. Bottom line is, most people can only catch Stern on their morning commute. So the simple fact is, they used to be able to listen to Stern 5 days a week, now they only get 4. It sucks. Plain and simple.

Stick these numbers and formulas in your ass!

Fucking mathletes.

From my archives (which went back farther than I thought)


10/25/99 3:46:01
12/4/02 3:34:01
4/1/03 3:34:42
10/27/04 3:13:08
1/12/05 3:39:09

The best of's I found never went over 2.5 hours

No one said it's 10 extra weeks off.

Howard is taking 10 weeks regular vacation, right? Whether it's mon-thru or mon-fri makes no difference in this case. Bottom line, he's not on the air.

There are 52 weeks in a year. I subtracted the 10 Fridays that he has booked off for regularly scheduled vacation, which leaves 42 days. Divide 42 by 5 (weekdays mon-fri) That comes out to the equivalent of 8.4, 5-day weeks.

That means the equivalent in terms of 5-day weeks (I'm not counting weekends) is 18.4

Hey, like I say Mutt, I can see both sides, and maybe you're not saying people can't say what they want, but that was the general tone that I got. No offense, dude.

I didnt belive in god , but i think Mutt just answered my prayers. Now only IF THE HOWARD 100 News team can follow Mutt's lead.

MonkeyBalls, yet another jerkoff gone.

stop putting words in my mouth and twisting around what I'm saying. I can't stand these fee speech assholes.

I'm not censoring shit. look at this place. it's full of assholes. I'm just setting the numbers straight becasue of tired of people fudging the numbers

Mutt, Good job as always

I don't get the "I can only listen during my morning commute" argument. if you could only listen an hour a day before, you're bitching about 1 hr on 1 day where you here clips being played. during that 1 hr, how much of Jon, Gary, & Ralph did you even hear? was 10 minutes of your commute fucked up? You had to have had twice that in just commercials before.

I am not bashing you Cyber Bishop, but I wanted to take this chance and explain something for all the people that bitch about equipment costs.

Do you own a TV? Did your cable or Sattelite provider give it to you? Probably not. Most people buy their TV so they can enjoy the content which can be viewed at an additional cost from some other service. And when did FM radios become free? I know I have paid for each one that I have ever listened to Howard on in the past.

All I am saying is...Don't act like buying equipment is a new concept. It's a part of life as we know it.

And if you read my post I clearly said

BUT because of content and the amount of channels I think that it is 100% worth it.


I NEVER bitched about buying equipment I was stating a fact. This 48 cents a day thing started because of Howard and how he plugs that it is that cheap to own sirius. This kind of "it is that cheap" plugging was not as common as it has become since the move to satellite.
I know there are costs with TV's, Radios, Direct TV, etc BUT they do not boast how much the cost is per day.

To paraphrase Chris Rock on this issue, Stern fans too happy, Stern Haters too mad!

I think there's validity in both sides of the issue, but the bottom line is that we've been getting some great radio the last few weeks, so if you hate the Friday show, just sleep in.

My morning commute is about 5 minutes.

This is just retarded. Howard was totally sick of testicular radio, was ready to just say to hell with it and retire. He had enough balls to up the ante with the FCC and go to Satellite radio. He didn't HAVE TO do any of this for any of us. He took a new job which is different than the last one, but in my opinion far better. Any A-hole who has a Sirius radio and can't find something to F'ing listen to has more wrong with him than just math. H-100 and 101 have other content, but its all Howard based, Howard approved etc. so deserves some friggin respect from a true fan.

Basically. Whogivesashit how many hours he works, how much vacation he has etc. He doesn't owe anybody anything. If you don't like the product, why'd you friggin buy it? Give the guy a break, give up a 12 pack a month for him or shut the fuck up and go away!!!!!

I paid $22,000 for my testicular radio (it came with my car). After one year that's $61 per day - and I didn't get a rebate!

I dont' get the "I can only listen during my morning compute" argument. if you could only listen an hour a day before, you're btiching about 1 hr on friday where you here clips being played. during that 1 hr, how much of Jon, Gary, & Ralph did you even hear? was 10 minutes of your commute fucked up?

Here's a case where the less commercials angle IS valid. There were plenty of times that on my commute of about 25 minutes in the morning, I could go almost the entire ride with nothing but commercials. Now you can at least get program!

From my archives (which went back farther than I thought)


10/25/99 3:46:01
12/4/02 3:34:01
4/1/03 3:34:42
10/27/04 3:13:08
1/12/05 3:39:09

The best of's I found never went over 2.5 hours

Thanks for confirming my numbers. Doesn't seem to make sense when they say there were 20 minute commercial breaks, but these times are what they are. Commercial free. I don't have non-commercial free versions to verify claims of 19-20 minute breaks, but that would seem unlikely in light of these figures.

Here's a case where the less commercials angle IS valid. There were plenty of times that on my commute of about 25 minutes in the morning, I could go almost the entire ride with nothing but commercials. Now you can at least get program!

Exactly, I can't tell you how many times Howard would go to commercial when I was leaving Kimmys and it would still be commercial when I got to work.

Exactly, I can't tell you how many times Howard would go to commercial when I was leaving Kimmys and it would still be commercial when I got to work.

You should have got a job farther from Kimmys.

Thanks for confirming my numbers. Doesn't seem to make sense when they say there were 20 minute commercial breaks, but these times are what they are. Commercial free. I don't have non-commercial free versions to verify claims of 19-20 minute breaks, but that would seem unlikely in light of these figures.

I found an older show just now that's over 4 hrs ... and my collection is completely commercial AND bumper free.

so we are thinking including the live commercials it's 3.5 hrs old show and 4.25 hrs of new show

I'll have to redo the numbers

:clap: Way to go Mutt, well put!

I cant believe all the whining. If anyone wants to bitch, bitch at the cable companies for charging $40+/mo for umteenbillion channels of pure crap. I'd rather pay $12.95/mo to have Howard for my stupid 45 minute a day commute than not at all.

^5 to Mutt! Perfectly said!

The main problem I see is this... People are bitching because Howard 100/101 is not running a total entertainment package that suits THEM. Most complaints are that the news repeats all day... and gets old. How many people turn on there cable TV, put it on one fucken station, and can be totally entertained without changing the channel! Just staying right on one channel all day.

The purpose of channels is to tune in. caught a show or 2.. get a laugh and move on with your life. You can count on tuning in any any time of day, for an hour or so, and get some news. For those that think they can tune in 24 hours and basically get a 24 hour 'total surprise' show, like the MAIN show, it's not going to happen. And it shouldn't.

To Howard Stern, his crew and the Sirius network... I salute you! (and thanks for the #'s Mutt)

Exactly, I can't tell you how many times Howard would go to commercial when I was leaving Kimmys and it would still be commercial when I got to work.

Hahaha. Totally man. It always seemed that the second I got in my car for my 25 minute school-trek they JUST went to commercial, which meant I was lucky to get a 4 minute taste of the show before 9 hours of class. It was like MTV. I hate MTV but every time I'm flipping through the channels and turn it on...ALWAYS, ALWAYS, its commercials. Now I get in my car, hear Howard's voice and that horrid 9-hour school day is all that much more tolerable.

The only point that can counter the math is that most people listen during their commute for only an hour of the show. So to them it is irrelevant how long the show lasts. On Fridays they will no longer have a live stern show during thier commute.

so we are thinking including the live commercials it's 3.5 hrs old show and 4.25 hrs of new show

I'll have to redo the numbers

My numbers are nothing but show ... no commercials, no bumpers coming back from commercials or anything. its all show.

I haven't been one to complain about Howard's vacation time, but I find it hard to believe that he will be on the air more than he was at Krock, considering he is taking Fridays off and has another two weeks of vacation. The Sirius shows have been longer than the Krock ones, on average, but not by that much.

Anyway, I have always said that I'm just happy he didn't retire and a four day a week show is better than nothing. And I never expected the rest of the programming on Howard 100 to be that good, so no letdown there. Actually, Bubba turned out to be much better than I thought.

I think the complaining about Howard's schedule will die out over time..or at least lessen in intensity.

Exactly, I can't tell you how many times Howard would go to commercial when I was leaving Kimmys and it would still be commercial when I got to work.

First of all, I apologize to all for the 'Mathlete' comment. It was a joke. I guess all those folks who wish me banned have never watched the Wonder Years.

Second of all, I can agree we may be getting more of Howard now since he moved to Sirius, but it's kind of like this. I work 9 hour days so I get one day a week every two weeks off. I don't really notice that I'm working that extra day, because it seems like such a small amount of time at the end of the day. But I definitely notice when I get that extra day off. So although mathematically we are getting more show, we're not really noticing it on a major level. But OBVIOUSLY everyone is noticing Howard taking Fridays off.

Again, am I going to cancel? No. Do I still love the show? Yes. Do I wish Howard wouldn't take Friday's off? Yes. I think this is how everyone feels. Everyone just words it differently.

Thanks for confirming my numbers. Doesn't seem to make sense when they say there were 20 minute commercial breaks, but these times are what they are. Commercial free. I don't have non-commercial free versions to verify claims of 19-20 minute breaks, but that would seem unlikely in light of these figures.

On testicle radio, Howard took 5-6 breaks of approx 12-15 minutes.

When they were in the middle of a bit, and they didn't go to a break for a long time, that's where we would run into the 20+ minute breaks...

I haven't edited the commercials out of his Sirius broadcasts, so I can't tell you how many breaks he takes per hour, or for how long.

I don't get the "I can only listen during my morning commute" argument. if you could only listen an hour a day before, you're bitching about 1 hr on 1 day where you here clips being played. during that 1 hr, how much of Jon, Gary, & Ralph did you even hear? was 10 minutes of your commute fucked up? You had to have had twice that in just commercials before.

Thanks for doing the math Mutt. I guess Ralph haters like me should just be grateful that Ralph isn't doing the commercials too. . .

huh

if the time estimates are accurate

ignoring holidays because they are the same and I don't know if its holidays + vacation. regardless he had the same holidays then as he does now

3.5 hrs/day x 5 days/week x 44 weeks/year = 770 hrs/year

4.25 hrs/day x 4 days/week x 42 weeks /year= 714 hrs/year

thats 56 less hrs/year or 7.3% less live show.

thats very different, but still not as bad as people are claiming. this still may need some fine tuning

Glad you took the time to figure out all this stuff Mutt.Everything sounds reasonable to me.Way to go Man

I'm no kiss ass, I'm just tired of seeing the same bullshit over and over.

Thank you Mutt, you are a god!!!!!!!!!! I'm tired of seeing it too, and people just don't get it when you try to explain it to them, so maybe you saying it will get it thru their heads!!!!

:)

we all love howard and we want more howard. No Howard on Fridays makes people sad.

Not only do I wish there was a Friday show, I wish there was a Saturday and Sunday show too.

My cousin is a dentist who only works 4 days a week; and she is also rich like Howard.

Howard sounds weird on the phone. just sayin.

his voice sounds deeper and lower

mutt your the man...well said well spoken...

I work 9 hour days so I get one day a week every two weeks off. I don't really notice that I'm working that extra day, because it seems like such a small amount of time at the end of the day. But I definitely notice when I get that extra day off.


WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH

The lack of variety is what has me turning away from the other 'shows'. I may give the roundtable another chance now that Mutt is at the helm to see if it's changed from the original but if I listen to all the extra shows play the bits over I will get sick of hearing them on the show even faster than normal.

I still liked the meet the shrink with Jeff (I didnt bother with the porn chick since she annoys me), the show with his folks and xmas with the christies was pretty good too.

The only point that can counter the math is that most people listen during their commute for only an hour of the show. So to them it is irrelevant how long the show lasts. On Fridays they will no longer have a live stern show during thier commute.

To the contrary...For example, Howard called in this morning, so those of us listening (commuting) actually got Howard 'live'. And to be honest, the Friday show isnt bad for those of us who miss most of the good parts of the show during the week.

:2thumbs:

Couldn't agree more. There is almost too much show now, let alone the whole channel.

Great Post well Said!

Mutt, how much do you get paid out of that $100 million? can't help but wonder if you can be objective about the entire subject since you work there now. Is there anything about the show or the channels you'd criticize? 48 hours of programming on H100/101 everyday, there must be something? Like the fucking loop that some of the news content appears to be on. How many times do we have to hear the same news stories.

And where the fuck is Red Peters. His show was great and then ... nothing.

And where is the Crack whore view?

And where is the Meet the Shrink?

And Bubba sucks.

I agree that we all knew he'd be off Fridays. But the Friday show still sucked. The only good thing about it is that it is one day where i can't take a vacation from the show.

So far, I give H100/101 a B+. I love the show. Takei was a master stroke. JD and Kissyphur sucked. Artie has been funny as hell now that he pipes up more. Love the aftershow. Fred is the best and he is finally getting the hang of the new set-up. I even love Ralph

But it still sucks to pay for radio after getting it free for our entire lives. And now that we pay, some people want to complain.

Howard deserves to work 4 days a week and have a three day weekend. He is doing so much more programming now then ever before. I commute 85 miles one way to work and I could only hear him for 40 minutes 4 days a week. I didn't work on fridays. Then Fresno got him and I could sometimes listen longer but they used to silence him for extended periods. I couldn't hear him in the house either. Now I can literally hear him anywhere I go except in tunnels. My biggest problem is stupid tyrannical radio bleeding in and now I have to switch stations and not crash. I loved the Friday show more than best of.

I don't work for sirus or Howard any more than you do and I'm insulted that you are going to insinuate that I'm not being truthful because I'm worried about my "job". I own a fan site and lots of dickheads annoy me. I'm no company man pitching a sale. I'm just a fan. I criticize lots of stuff here and when I was a guest on the round table. do you want to know, I didn't like homocop, I did like many of the remakes though. as for the Friday show, I didn't like that Ralph kept interrupting everyone including Howard. when he was cutting off Howard I was real aggravated. regardless, I though the Friday show was a hit.

as for the other shows, yeah I'm hungry for them too. I'm assuming they are on the way.

Mutt, how much do you get paid out of that $100 million? can't help but wonder if you can be objective about the entire subject since you work there now. Is there anything about the show or the channels you'd criticize? 48 hours of programming on H100/101 everyday, there must be something? Like the fucking loop that some of the news content appears to be on. How many times do we have to hear the same news stories.

And where the fuck is Red Peters. His show was great and then ... nothing.

And where is the Crack whore view?

And where is the Meet the Shrink?

And Bubba sucks.

I agree that we all knew he'd be off Fridays. But the Friday show still sucked. The only good thing about it is that it is one day where i can't take a vacation from the show.

So far, I give H100/101 a B+. I love the show. Takei was a master stroke. JD and Kissyphur sucked. Artie has been funny as hell now that he pipes up more. Love the aftershow. Fred is the best and he is finally getting the hang of the new set-up. I even love Ralph

But it still sucks to pay for radio after getting it free for our entire lives. And now that we pay, some people want to complain.

http://www.forumspile.com/STFU-Bucket.jpg

I don't work for sirus or howard any more than you do and I'm insulted that you are going to insinuate that I'm not being truthful becasue I'm worried about my "job". I own a fan site and lots of dickheads annoy me. I'm no company man pitching a sale. I'm just a fan.

as for the other shows, yeah I'm hungry for them too. I'm assuming they are on the way.

relax. you insult too easily. what are you, thin-skinned like Fred ( :) )? Thanks for the info.

Haven't yet heard you hosting fan show, but I think Hein is the best thing abt sirius so far (except takei, maybe). i'll be surprised if he isn't stolen away for something on t.v. he has no personailty, but he is great at moving shows along.

How many of us wouldnt jump at the chance to work a 4 day week?

For those of us that still work Friday's yeah it sucks but more power to him. Remember we still have 100+ other channels to choose from on Sirius and we can use Fridays to actually listen to music. I plan on using Fridays to scan the other channels.

http://www.forumspile.com/STFU-Bucket.jpg

funny. but where the hell did you get a picture of a really fat guy drinking something from a bucket?

I hate when people quote me before I spellcheck. :)

it's not just you, I get this alot now and it's annoying. people keep acting like I've changed the site or how I act since Howard said he was off the site and it couldn't be more incorrect. It just annoys me.

I hate when people quote me before I spellcheck. :)

it's not just you, I get this alot now and it's annoying. people keep acting like I've changed the site or how I act since Howard said he was off the site and it couldn't be more incorrect. It just annoys me.

i didn't join until dec or so. so i don't know how the site used to be. i like it, but it is like crack. if i were howard, i couldn't read it tho b/c people are so brutally honest when they don't like something.

But it still sucks to pay for radio after getting it free for our entire lives. And now that we pay, some people want to complain.

What everyone is paying for is not what you used to get for free. You never had 65 commercial-free channels of music, two 24-hour comedy channels, every NFL, NBA and NHL game or two 24-hour channels dedicated to programming designed by Howard Stern for fans of Howard Stern. You never got that for free.

The content you are paying for does not compare to what is available for free.

I hate when people quote me before I spellcheck. :)

it's not just you, I get this alot now and it's annoying. people keep acting like I've changed the site or how I act since Howard said he was off the site and it couldn't be more incorrect. It just annoys me.

Fuck em. Keep up the good work Muttman.



http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/ppics.php?s=&id=3461

Mutt makes great points here. Keep in mind everyone, 99 percent of people who listen to the radio (either Sirius or old-fashioned, testicular radio) are only listening during their commute to work. So, it's good to have a Friday show that recaps a lot of the stuff that they missed. Plus, I'm a die hard Stern aficionado, and that NBC traffic report they played is either one that I never heard... or can't remember. So I'm actually going to be looking forward to these Friday shows. Also, you same douche bags who're complaining about the 43 cents a day probably pay 6 bucks each morning for Starbucks coffee. That 43 cents a day figure is for people who're paying month to month. Those who're paying for a full year in advance are paying much less than that. And there are even other payment plans that are cheaper. (If you plunked down 500 smackers for the lifetime subscription, even if your radio lasts only 3 years, you're still getting an amazing bargain.) I don't mind some criticism of Stern on this site, but please make it ORIGINAL criticism! Don't just repeat the same boring shit that all of the other haters are splooging out!

I'm no kiss ass, I'm just tired of seeing the same bullshit over and over.

I was pissed at fisrt because I thought they did a good job of NOT FOCUSING on the friday issue for more than 10 seconds at a time, but wy would they.

But now that they switched, im listening to Howard 40-60 % more every day with news & superfan...



So Im sold obviously!! Lastly, I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say GET RID OF RALPH!! Im a golf pro not an ON_AIR cast member. Ralph is a stylist, a good one, how does that get him on 75% of all on air activities?!?!

We at SFN would probably like more Gary, more John Hyne, and def MORE SAL AND RICHARD< DAN SONG MAN< SCOTT ect...

Ya hear what Im talking about??

About Time :jj: :bw: :db: :gs:

please don't let these bored 16yr olds get you down.....

I'm cool with the current set-up during the week. I have no problems with only four days of Howard. My only criticism is the lack of programming on the weekends and I understand it takes time to get all reved up. I'll give Tim and Howard six months to get more going on the weekends before I start to really get annoyed.

none of this even needs to be said. The show is fine and we all knew about Fridays off. I still love the show more here than KROCK

the friday show is a owrk in progress and opens up some interesting possibilities , i dont think howard will allow to just be a big suckfest time filler ...

i dont agree with them , but i can see the point of the complainers - live howard 5 days a week is addictive , it wouldnt really matter what is being offered in its place , it is "change" and lots of people dont like change ...

i think 3-6 months from now people will be raving about the friday shows , so many different things they can do with it ...

:bwtd:

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Hey mutt...i agree with ya 100%


But this turned into the "Suck up to Mutt of the week" thread really freakin fast!


:D

I'm no kiss ass, I'm just tired of seeing the same bullshit over and over.



Mutt, while i agree that most of the "in-fighting" is over major misunderstandings you might just want to consider the sources for these mistaken declarations. anyone worth their salt and with half a brain figured out the true facts ages ago. the nay sayers are mostly people who simply don't pay attention or, more likely, just mimic what others say because they aren't capable of intelligent thot but want to be in on the action.

sadly anytime you have a large group of people all trying to talk about the same subject you'll always get the few who try to ruin it for the many.

yes we've tolerated them and yes they've become boring to the hilt but those who know and accept the facts as they really are at least can find comfort in knowing that the really smart folks are on the right road. the rest can just go jump into a ditch!

bon

Mutt your the fuckin man, your not kissing ass yor speaking the truth, keep up the great work dude.
:bigclap:

Hey mutt...i agree with ya 100%


But this turned into the "Suck up to Mutt of the week" thread really freakin fast!


:D :bn:

Yeah and I can distinguish between those two. But the tone of this thread is that no one should complain about anything Howard related anymore. Right or wrong, that's the tone.
With all due respect,

You're FULL OF SHIT!

Either you have a learning disability or a prejudice that skews your interpretation of Mutt's points. If it's the former, my sympathy; if it's the latter, we all know of other boards where you're probably more comfortable and your agenda may be more welcome.

So, if Howard is on the air 756 hours a year divided by 24 hours in a day, he actually works for 31.5 days a year ( that is if he worked around the clock for a month).

Regardless I love the show on Sirius and think Howard and the gang have never sounded better!

Yeah.... anyone who whines about Howard's four-day schedule is a seeping twatlord!!!! On Friday mornings, I'll just tune in to Hard Attack, the heavy metal channel on Sirius, where I can catch wicked-cool bands like Rotting Prostitute Gravy, Half-eaten Puppy, and Unrelenting Undead Grandma Assualt. Unless of course, Friday mornings on Howard 100 feature Tissue Time with Janet Reno.

I'm no kiss ass, I'm just tired of seeing the same bullshit over and over.
No, you're a kiss ass, and are stiffling free speech.....

5 pages of posts regarding what constitutes appropriate free speech on a fan site for a celebrity who made his career using and promoting his own free speech has to make you wonder. Just caught Dave Chapelle on Oprah and I can't wait to hear Howard's take on it.

Message to ric1032 -- here's a new concept for you -- it's called constructive criticism. You might want to try it sometime. P.S. Your posts are as vacant and uninspired as is your profile, which I'm sure reflects you quite accurately -- needle-dick numbnut. :D :D :D

No, you're a kiss ass, and are stiffling free speech.....

you are here at sfn as long as he allows...mutt owns this site...his site...his rules...is that so difficult to understand?...

5 pages of posts regarding what constitutes appropriate free speech on a fan site for a celebrity who made his career using and promoting his own free speech has to make you wonder.


want me to call 911 dude...must be someone with a gun forcing you to post here...

No, you're a kiss ass, and are stiffling free speech.....

ahhahahah. No such thing. Mutt's site. Mutt's rules. Agree, or don't, but those are your only choices.

Free speech has nothing to do with it.

:claphand:

you are here at sfn as long as he allows...mutt owns this site...his site...his rules...is that so difficult to understand?...

Is it a donation? Or is it a membership fee?

If I pay for this motherfucker, I'd be royally pissed if I got banned for saying "Howard was wrong today."

So many piss-boyz on this thread. Get off your goddam knees already, you have something on your chin.

No, you're a kiss ass, and are stiffling free speech.....

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


I don't think the new parameters of SFN have violated the constitution. As stated above, having user guidelines on a website (even to the point of censoring) is not a violation of 1st admendment rights,

How many of us wouldnt jump at the chance to work a 4 day week?

I would love to work 4 days a week instead of 6...

:D

you are here at sfn as long as he allows...mutt owns this site...his site...his rules...is that so difficult to understand?...

You act as if your Mutt's right hand man. What a douche.

you are here at sfn as long as he allows...mutt owns this site...his site...his rules...is that so difficult to understand?... First of all, I have never said anything derogatory about Stern or his show....It's his show, he's been doing it for 30 years, and he ultimately knows what's best for it....I have sirius, and I listen daily, hoewever when you can not make a statement about someone or something on a stern-based BB without fear of banning/retaliation, it just reaks of over-moderation and censorship. Does that make sense?

Is it a donation? Or is it a membership fee?


So many piss-boyz on this thread. Get off your goddam knees already, you have something on your chin.


dumb question...yer postin' ain't ya dude?...have ya paid anything yet?...

I do love the math of 8 weeks of 5 days off compared to 10 weeks of four days off.

10 weeks is more than 8 weeks, usually. Unless it is time figured off for days not worked anyway, in which case the whole thing needs to be multiplied by pi times the radius of the radio knob used to control the volume.

You act as if your Mutt's right hand man. What a douche.

I have an opinion...you just flame...what a dick...

dumb question...yer postin' ain't ya dude?...have ya paid anything yet?...

You sure as hell haven't, cheap bastard.

I have an opinion...you just flame...what a dick...

No, you suck up to each person in charge of every board you post on. Do you have Sirius or are you too cheap for that too? Your opinions are about as valuable as that South Carolina hayshack you live in. I have an opinion and I'm of the opinion you suck.

You sure as hell haven't, cheap bastard.

I just don't want to be what you accused Shamela of cathead...y'know "buying" her membership shit...God whatta troll...

First of all, I have never said anything derogatory about Stern or his show....It's his show, he's been doing it for 30 years, and he ultimately knows what's best for it....I have sirius, and I listen daily, hoewever when you can not make a statement about someone or something on a stern-based BB without fear of banning/retaliation, it just reaks of over-moderation and censorship. Does that make sense?

If your friends came over and took
a shit in your living room and called
your mom a whore would you want
them to leave or continue to hang out?

Would it make any difference if they had bought a satellite radio?

I just don't want to be what you accused Shamela of cathead...y'know "buying" her membership shit...God whatta troll...

:rolleyes: That thing is a fraud just like you. Back to lessthanzero with you. Don't forget to tell everyone there I'm "trolling" you here.

No, you suck up to each person in charge of every board you post on. Do you have Sirius or are you too cheap for that too? Your opinions are about as valuable as that South Carolina hayshack you live in. I have an opinion and I'm of the opinion you suck.

1) never sucked up to any admins or mods dude

2) I listen to Stern

3) Match my house against your mobile home anyday

4) I suck...you troll...we all have out weaknesses...

:rolleyes: That thing is a fraud just like you. Back to lessthanzero with you. Don't forget to tell everyone there I'm "trolling" you here.

get over yourself dude...nobody gives a fuck about you or what you post here...fucking one trick pony...

You know what, I for one totally agree with Mutt. There is more Stern than ever, besides I for one bought Sirius for Stern only. In October when I got my first (of three units), there was no Stern on Sirius. I discovered many other channels and 24 hour programming. My wife stole my first unit and listens to it instead of watching TV. I love the entire Sirius experience and feel it well worth the money.

I haven't read through all of this but all I can say is good for you Mutt. As bad as the complaining has been, I think the biggest loser in this has been SFN. This place has suffered with all of the idiots on here as of late.

1) never sucked up to any admins or mods dude

Like hell you don't.

2) I listen to Stern

How? I'm not talking about d/l off the internet either. You can only afford dial-up.

3) Match my house against your mobile home anyday

I'll take that bet. Sorry to break it to you. I live in a brick house. Your buddy spineless Joe would know all about that.

4) I suck...you troll...we all have out weaknesses...

I don't troll. I'm a Stern fan. I point out bullshit when I see it. You are so full of it.

get over yourself dude...nobody gives a fuck about you or what you post here...fucking one trick pony...

Likewise, I'm sure. Thing is, when you post, it's with this wiseguy attitude. When someone calls you on it, you cry like a bitch. As long as you continue to be a jackass, I'll continue to point out what a goof you really are.

Also add:

Howard Stern does not need to answer to you unless your name is Mel Karmazin. You do not have the right to challenge how Howard Stern lives his life or does his job. If you do not want to listen, turn your satellite receiver in and listen to DLR, Carrolla or whatever lame fuck occupies your 'Free-FM' airwaves. Fuck off, because your bitching wears on the fucking guy whos only concern is to produce a fucking program that he thinks is the best he can deliver.

Second, if you missed any segments from The Old Show, your only hope to hear it again is to find someone to download it from. The New Show re-airs TWICE each fucking day! What's that worth to you, fuck stone?

Third, Howard doesn't tell you how to live your life or how you bag your groceries, so lay the fuck off the man. The alternative to Sirius Howard Stern (which, so far is the BEST Howard I've heard so far) is NO Howard Stern. If that is your preference, FUCKING LEAVE! Who gives a fuck what your opinion is, your thoughts should remain right were they belong..confined to your stupid skull. Eat Shit if you don't like it, because NOBODY cares about you or your bull shit opinions that mean absolutely nothing.

On the same coin, my opinions mean nothing either, so for all I care, keep on being a fucking douche ... just do it somewhere else.

so we are thinking including the live commercials it's 3.5 hrs old show and 4.25 hrs of new show

That's what I would say I've found. The old shows seemed to go anywhere from a little over three hours to almost four, but probably centering around and most commonly about 3.5. For the new show, 4.25 is probably right if you completely cut out every live read and the non-parody songs coming back, but are close to 4.5 if you're a little more liberal with what you consider "show" content.

Personally, I consider the live reads good for several more minutes of entertainment. Some he just runs through the copy with a few comments, but usually a couple per show have some good banter throughout it. :)

Like hell you don't.



How? I'm not talking about d/l off the internet either. You can only afford dial-up.



I'll take that bet. Sorry to break it to you. I live in a brick house. Your buddy spineless Joe would know all about that.



I don't troll. I'm a Stern fan. I point out bullshit when I see it. You are so full of it.



Likewise, I'm sure. Thing is, when you post, it's with this wiseguy attitude. When someone calls you on it, you cry like a bitch. As long as you continue to be a jackass, I'll continue to point out what a goof you really are.


Since this is a pretty important thread that mutt felt compelled to start...I guess you win dude...I'm done...you've fucked it up enough already...troll...

Since this is a pretty important thread that mutt felt compelled to start...I guess you win dude...I'm done...you've fucked it up enough already...troll...

That's right pussy. Know your role.

Anyone with any common sense would understand this is Mutt's board and what he says, goes. Your opinion is shit when you haven't helped the site with a penny. You, get over yourself.

any shot your font could be any more fucking annoying, please tone it back a bit

I think Howard's show is better than ever.

Howard is the best entertainment out there and has been for a while now.

I gladly give Sirius my subscription so that I can continue listening to Howard.

Like a survivor in the jungle, I will adapt to the change and be better for it.

And if Jessica Hahn gets on the Sybian, that alone is worth my subscription.

Thank you Howard. :bow:

:bn:

Old Howard Free....New Howard $$$$$ :D

PS. I've tried listening to old fashioned radio since I got Sirius and it's unlistenable. I'd rather listen to a dripping faucet.

I'm no kiss ass, I'm just tired of seeing the same bullshit over and over. People with no real substance in thier thought always rely on complaining and pointing blame, so they feel more important. We understand that and ignor the rants and whines. If they don't like the immeasurable entertainment screw 'em!

the real patriot nathaniel hale speaks the truth, you pay for it, you don't like it, yurn it off and don't renew it.

I love sattelite radio, I love Sirius.

Good job, but the "me-me" generation will still piss and moan.

Great Job Mutt!! Bravisimo!!
Real Howard lovers can appreciate whats going on here. There have been more classic moments since the gangs been on Sirius, than in the past year.
Listening to the Friday show today, 2 instant classics in a row with all the Takai, Arnold /Letterman stuff, and sweet Jenna James. I though the boys did a goos job today. Sort of like "Best of" on steroids.
Howard rules............................................. ................... :arg: :arg: :insane:

some great posts fellow fans, but as with anything, we are kiss-ass brown-nosers and negative gets all the attention

:2thumbs: NICE

A. Listened to the show since 92, will continue to listen.

B. Discussing what people like and dislike about the show should be encouraged. (I think Mutt secretly knows this) it's what keeps paying the bills. It's called 'web traffic".

C. Some of the criticisms are brought more to light because people ARE paying for the show (despite what some of you crack smokers think) and they tune in. I would say I listen now more than I ever did.

D. Referencing the post above, I realize the show is essentially on four times during the day, I actually wish there was an afternoon broadcast instead of Bubba The Butt Nugget so I could catch what I miss in the last two hours of the show.

E. Referencing the post above, I don't mind a best of show on Friday, but perhaps (its a fact really) Ralph is NOT the best choice. Florentine and Levy would have been much better.

F. Free Speech and SFN. Anyone with half a brain would see that there seems to be a bit of a "dont say nothin bad cuz Mutt is gonna get you" vibe about the place.

G. I don't think Mutt is the evil Empire. Hell I don't know the dude, he's trying to make a living, so I will cut him some slack.

H. Do I feel ripped off about the Friday thing? Yeah, a little bit. As someone who pretty much listens for two hours a day I can't recall him saying anything about that in the KROCK days. I suspect he was downplaying it.

I. In reference to above, I only feel ripped off in the sense that I remember plenty of "43 cents a day" lectures and not very many "Im cutting a day of the show" moments. Say what you will in protest.

J. Am I gonna stick with the show? Sure, for a while. Satellite has many annoyances. I think a lot will be determined by how long my first set of equipment lasts. I can't see it holding up traveling back and forth daily from car to house. And Sirius has not exactly been known to be overly friendly with customer service (see the $75 transfer fee)

K. This is off topic but I still wish the bitrate/sound quality was better. It's very thin accross the board. Yeah, I know they are saving bandwidth for video in the future. But it might be wiser to sell a better product in the present. I suspect the video will come at additional cost. And will NOT really enhance the quality of the music streams. Or the talk ones for that matter.

L. I do appreciate SFN and like posting here. There are some funny bastards on here. But I don't see myself censoring my views on shit.

If I pay 5 bucks more a month can there be less Ralph

In my opinion Ralph Wiggum, your post is absolutely constructive critisim, I disagree with some of it, but it was presented inteligently

A. Listened to the show since 92, will continue to listen.

B. Discussing what people like and dislike about the show should be encouraged. (I think Mutt secretly knows this) it's what keeps paying the bills. It's called 'web traffic".

C. Some of the criticisms are brought more to light because people ARE paying for the show (despite what some of you crack smokers think) and they tune in. I would say I listen now more than I ever did.

D. Referencing the post above, I realize the show is essentially on four times during the day, I actually wish there was an afternoon broadcast instead of Bubba The Butt Nugget so I could catch what I miss in the last two hours of the show.

E. Referencing the post above, I don't mind a best of show on Friday, but perhaps (its a fact really) Ralph is NOT the best choice. Florentine and Levy would have been much better.

F. Free Speech and SFN. Anyone with half a brain would see that there seems to be a bit of a "dont say nothin bad cuz Mutt is gonna get you" vibe about the place.

G. I don't think Mutt is the evil Empire. Hell I don't know the dude, he's trying to make a living, so I will cut him some slack.

H. Do I feel ripped off about the Friday thing? Yeah, a little bit. As someone who pretty much listens for two hours a day I can't recall him saying anything about that in the KROCK days. I suspect he was downplaying it.

I. In reference to above, I only feel ripped off in the sense that I remember plenty of "43 cents a day" lectures and not very many "Im cutting a day of the show" moments. Say what you will in protest.

J. Am I gonna stick with the show? Sure, for a while. Satellite has many annoyances. I think a lot will be determined by how long my first set of equipment lasts. I can't see it holding up traveling back and forth daily from car to house. And Sirius has not exactly been known to be overly friendly with customer service (see the $75 transfer fee)

K. This is off topic but I still wish the bitrate/sound quality was better. It's very thin accross the board. Yeah, I know they are saving bandwidth for video in the future. But it might be wiser to sell a better product in the present. I suspect the video will come at additional cost. And will NOT really enhance the quality of the music streams. Or the talk ones for that matter.

L. I do appreciate SFN and like posting here. There are some funny bastards on here. But I don't see myself censoring my views on shit.

Points well taken. Very precise and thought out.
EWWWWW......CUNTY However.....
Its not botherin' me to much.

I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines....YAYYYY!...I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines, I read the guidelines......YAYYYY! :insane:

Good post though!

I'm adding to our posting guidelines (http://www.sternfannetwork.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89280) some answers to common complaints / questions.

You've all heard the complainers calling into the show and posting here at SFN. I'm paying $12.95 a month, Howard is making $500 million, and he's taking off Fridays, WAHHH!!! Howard lied, WAAAAHH!! I'm returning my radio, WA WA WAAAAHH!!! I'm sick and tired of hearing the anti-Howard smear campaign so lets dispel their misunderstandings.

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Howard taking Off Fridays

There is constant bitching about Howard taking Fridays off and having 10 weeks of vacation. Though it might appear that you'll be getting 20% less Howard Stern, it's just not so. You actually get 20% more.

First it's not fridays off plus more vactaion. Howard used to have 8 five day weeks off and now he has 10 four day weeks off. No matter how you look at it, it's 40 days. if you want to bitch about Fridays, at least accept it's the same amount of vacation.

Also, to everyone that says Howard hid this from us, it's not true. We've all known for a year. When the $500 million 5 year deal hit the papers they also reported about the 4 day week and the 10 weeks of vacation. If you knew about the $500 mill, you knew about the new schedule. It was mentioned on air several times. If you say you didn't know, you are a lair.

Old Howard
6-10:30AM with a five or six 15-20 minute commercial breaks.
thats 4.5 hrs - 100 minutes or 2.8 hrs live each day
which works out to 14 hrs live per week
Howard used to work 44 weeks a year which works out to 623 hrs of Howard a year

New Howard
6-11AM with a five 6 minute commercial breaks
thats 5 hrs - 30 minutes or 4.5 hrs live each day
which works out to 18 hrs live per week
Howard will be working 42 weeks a year which works out to 756 hrs a year

So for everyone who can't understand this
4 days of Sirius Howard Stern = 6 days of KROCK Howard Stern!!

by the end of the year even with his extra 2 weeks off well have an additional 133 hrs of Howard. Thats 21% more Stern!!!!! it's not less anything. You will hear Howard live more than ever before.

We didn't even start talking about all the additional Howard that we get now. The After Show, the Friday show, the news, the intern show, the super fan show. it's more Stern than you could ever want.

Also, besides these normal show hours, there will surely be additional shows like the New Years Eve special.

Now STFU!!!

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Howard's Salary

We hear everyone say that Howard makes $500 million. His budget for 3 radio stations is $100 million a year for 5 years. Everyone of his employees gets paid out of that $100 million. Thats the entire Howard Stern Show crew, the H100 News Team, Bubba the Love Sponge, Danny Boneduce, and everyone else on air or behind the scenes for H100, H101, & H102. I'm sure there's plenty left over for him, but when it's all said and done I wouldn't be surprised if it's less than he was making at KROCK. You can be sure that Robin, Fred, Artie, & Gary take a big chunk out of that $100 mill.

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Howard lied about what Sirius would cost.

I'm tired of seeing lot of bad math claiming that after you take all of Howard's days off the show costs $2 a day or some shit so here's the real deal. 1 year of Sirius is $142.45 or 39 cents a day.

if you are only buying Sirius for live Howard and don't want to count all of the spinoff shows, replays, or the 100 other channels of programing, you are paying 19 cents an hour for Live Stern. or 85 cents for each day Howard is live. This takes into consideration all of Howards days off including fridays, vacations, and holidays.

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Please add anything else that we need.

As for my Howard Stern math, any help fine tuning the number of commercial breaks and how long they are at both KROCK and on Sirius would be appreciated. I don't want to leave any room for discrepancies


Mutt...Thanks for posting this..I myself was getting really sick and tired of people bitching about them getting Friday's off...I am actually kind of glad in a way..Obviously I love the live show..But "The Friday Show" is fucking awsome...Im very glad they came up with this concept and really enjoyed the first one today..So everyone who has been bitching...Shut the fuck up already and enjoy your Sirius Radio...Thank You :cool: :cool:

Amen brother, well put. This man is a fricken genious, probably why he was put in charge of the SFRT. If all else fail's Mutt you might have a great career in politic's (I'd vote for you).

I'm with uberman

its simple, this is mutts site and if you cant folow the rules then you should leave and make it easier on everyone who can follow the rules. personally i think the posts where people bitch about howard suck and i have no problem with people being banned for "voicing their opinions" when they are bashing howard.

Nice post and well put mutt.

The next new thread is going to be "Whaaaaa, Mutt is treating me like a child and explaining how stupid I am for complaining! Whaaaaaa!"

Way to go, Mutt!

Excellent point, Mutt. You've helped us move on.

One angle that may have been overlooked on this Friday-off issue is that Artie has become a big part of the show, and Fridays off allows Artie more of a chance to do his standup act. Howard may have taken this into account.

I think it all adds up....

Boys! Boys! Take it outside! ;)

When I think about it, I am just so crazy happy that Howard is doing a show AT ALL, Fridays or no Fridays! He could've just chucked it all, skipped the hassle, and slept in EVERY day.

People have GOT to remember this is all still sorting out. With 100/101 we are getting SO much content that no one can actually listen to it all, riiiight? I just can't imagine anyone feeling ripped off, but I guess there are always those who will no matter what. I really liked the Friday show...the parts that I didn't I FF'd. No big deal. I do the same with Howard's show if I get bored with a topic.

It seems that everyone is working at 100% to put out a great Howard product. Give 'em a break!

thanks for pointing out some of the facts here mutt. howard did mention the taking fridays off a long time ago b/c these assholes were bitching about when he was on kroq.

seems that there are a few people here that get all amped up about stupid crap like how much time that howard gets off now that they forget to actually appreciate how much great show they actually are getting.

just like with the religious right in this country the ralph haters and stern show bitchers are a vocal minority that has nothing better to do with their time.

First of all we are in the USA -- the greatest free market in the world. Howard is making exactly what he is worth. I wouldn't give a damn if he made $5 BILLION a year. Those minimum wage workers out there are haters who should have stayed in school.

Second if Howard is working 4 days a week maybe he won't burn out so quickly and actually signup for an additional 5 years!!!!

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned in this thread is the fact that even though Howard is taking off from broadcasting the show on Fridays he will almost certainly be working on most Fridays in one way or another.

Even with the help of a program director, there is a lot more work that goes into the running of two full stations than simply hosting the morning show.

I wouldn't be surprised if he is working now more than ever.

Day off from broadcasting - yes. Day off - I doubt it.

For all you morons trying to say that Mutt is censoring the site you don't have a clue.

All he was doing was bring some reality back the discussions. If nobody does that then shit gets out of control and you get a bunch of know it all running their mouths like they're fucking experts (ex. human toilet - CH).

Mutt's point was more allong the lines of "If all you're going to do is bitch, do it some place else."

I could care less about Howard taking Fridays off. I knew he was going to when I signed up, it came as no surprise.

However, I didn't sign up and pay good money for that talentless fuckhead, Ralph. Especially when there are some very talented people around to take the air time that is being wasted on him.

Hopefully, Howard will allow that talent to step up on Friday, sans the snaggletoothed faggot.

thanks Mutt! :bigup:
Hopefully it will calm down the crybabies, I doubt it will shut them up completely.

the real patriot nathaniel hale speaks the truth, you pay for it, you don't like it, yurn it off and don't renew it.

I love sattelite radio, I love Sirius. Yo! I’m not criticizing Sirius Radio, I’m criticizing the whiners. You need to reread the quote sonny.

:bigclap:

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I'd also like to add the thought that everyone is complaining about a lack of content, but, having a Friday off would seem to give Howard time to take more meetings and concentrate on filling out the roster and schedule. One less day to prepare show material for.

The occasional call-ins are great, too.

P.S. - Great job, Mutt :btu:

This is how it is for me:

On terrestrial radio, my commutes were often during commercial breaks, so I was lucky to get 5 or 10 minutes of show when not home.

I don't really care about the math, even though I understand it may help some others feel better about things. All I know is, I don't have time to watch TV anymore, hardly. I have been videotaping my favorite programs, but no time to watch the tapes! I'd rather listen to the replay 6pm-11pm PT.

And all those other shows on H100 and H101? As far as I can tell, Howard calls in to a lot of them for long periods of time. Or drops in to them in person.

I feel constantly surrounded by Howard in the Sirius universe. I am happy.

I just hope he does not retire from broadcasting in 5 years.

Oh, and the money which leads to being an SFN supporter? My understanding is that it is a _donation_, not a membership.

Any Howard is better than no Howard....Lord knows we'd all be whaaaing if Howard said to hell with everyone and decided to retire and just bang Beth-O all day....Long Live the Revolution

I agree. Howard said he would be doing the Friday thing a while ago. Hell, he'd been taking off Fridays during the summer for a loooong time.

I paid what I paid to follow the KOAM. And it has been worth every cent. I am glad Sirius is treating him well and that he has a budget to cover all the talent he's gathered over the years. Shorter commercial breaks and he always goes past 11.

I was really bummed when he said he would retire at the end of KROCK. It was the best gift in the world to hear he was moving to Sirius, instead of retiring. Screw the people complaining about that stuff. If they didn't know what was going on, they obviously have not been listening for the last year.

Good to see Mutt laying down the law.

When Howard was still a KROK he said don't buy Sirius just for him! He always expressed ther was plenty to hear,which there is. Bottom line, if you are not happy with the programming then don't subscribe at the end of your first year.

my radio cost $50
one of my radios cost $50 cnd thats like $40 there right .
Mutts math tell it all . what a pain in the ass the whiners are .

i didn't read ALL the pages, BUT if you pay monthy you end up paying .53 a day! not .39! thats $41.16 a year more fer howie.

I can live with 43 cents a day
I can live with Howard taking Friday's off (who wouldn't negotiate that as part of their contract if you've been in your profession for 20+ years)
I don't care about Howard's salary and we would all do the same if given the same opportunity.
Don't like it? Want to cancel subscription and return your equipment? Fine, go ahead. We can do without ya!

Instead of dumping on every little thing we hate about the shows , why don't you open your trap and come up with some ideas for new programming or things you'd like to see. It is easy to whine and complain but try being constructive. They did go from 4.5 hours a day to 48 hours a day to program that isn't going to happen over night.

i love the show! love the "Wrap Up Show" too!! and bubba!

Mutt, it just goes to show that no matter how great a thing is...there are some people that just love to complain. if they cant find a real reason to complain...they knitpick something to death in hopes no one will catch on to the fact they cant base their complaint in any real truth. good call on your part!!
did stern also not say he was really thinking of retiring? so how about instead of all the people bitchin that he takes friday off, be grateful we have him at all.
i can think of nobody that deserves a extra day off a week more then the stern team.

Thanks for confirming my numbers. Doesn't seem to make sense when they say there were 20 minute commercial breaks, but these times are what they are. Commercial free. I don't have non-commercial free versions to verify claims of 19-20 minute breaks, but that would seem unlikely in light of these figures. I don't know about the East Coast. But on the West Coast, the show would very often go to at least 10:30 or 11 because the commercial breaks were at the very least 15 minute and many times longer. Especially if he went a long time without a break. I could take a shower, get some food...etc, the breaks were so long.

If I pay 5 bucks more a month can there be less Ralph

Post of the day! :bannana2:

The Friday show was a bit suprising- a lot of really old Stern bits from WNBC- I found that fascinating.

It could be a lot worse- you could be paying $12 a month to listen to those two homos, Opie and Anthony.

:clap:

G :claphand: and a :pissr: complainers :pissl:

any shot your font could be any more fucking annoying, please tone it back a bit

My font annoys you? Good, I've done my job. You don't like it, don't read it. It's that simple.

Nice math, Mutt. You should get this to Howard so he can read it on the air - if you haven't already.
Everyone of his employees gets paid out of that $100 million.
Wow, I didn't know that. I guess Jackie won't be coming back.

he talked about [the 4 day week] on krock
I was in a market that didn't even get The Show, and I knew about it. And I knew about it before I registered here, too. It was hardly a secret.

Make it a Best of the week with some commentary and call ins and get ralph the hell out of there and we would like it much better


we?

Don't try to make your snide attacks more meaningful by writing 'we' instead of 'I'.

As far as I'm concerned, Pussah2, the whining discontent displayed in most of your posts incline me towards the idea that you are here to disrupt and are not well-intentioned towards Howard or the good of the show.

of that $100 million a year, how much goes back into the show in salaries, etc.?? and how much is a cash deal vs. stock??

sure Howard is doing alright, but the bitching needs to end

RIGHT ON MUTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!

Wahhhhhhhh, I would still rather hear Howard on Friday. Not complaining, just saying. Wahhhhhhh, I'm a lonely loser, wahhhh!!

I think we'd all like to hear Howard on Fridays. Perhaps if we increase our monthly subscription rate to $20 he will do Saturdays and Sundays too. Maybe for $50 he will stay on mike 24/7.

I say my Sirius experience has been so far, so good

Wahhhhhhhh, I would still rather hear Howard on Friday. Not complaining, just saying. Wahhhhhhh, I'm a lonely loser, wahhhh!!

I agree. Most people work 5 days a week (or more - not less) in this country. And then to pour salt on the wound by putting Ralph on the air all Friday morning. I had to turn it off.

I'm one of the rare people who's gotten to listen to the whole show every day since he reappeared on WCCC in Hartford.

I really can't understand how anyone could complain that they're getting short changed by the Sirius show.

On T/R (Testicle Radio) He played about 15 -20 minute blocks of commercials. That was incredible. I would get into my car somedays to go to work and not hear any show content in that 20 minute drive.

At work, I would remove my headphones when a block came on and get rapped up in work and forget about the radio and miss 10 minutes or so and have to catch up.

Now, I find myself wishing he would break so that I can take a leak, or go get things done away from my desk and not miss any of the show.

I got Sirius in February of last year. I used to listen to the music all day after T/R Stern then Jim Breuer at 4pm. Now that Howard has come, I listen to him, then the wrap up show, then the H100 news at noon, then Bonaduce, then switch to Breuer (haven't listened to much Bubba). Howard not only increased the time he's on the air, but filled up the rest of the day with programing.

For those who only get to listen on thier morning commute, there is a replay at 9pm so you have a chance to catch more than you ever did on T/R.

For those on the west coast there is the time delayed show at 9am on H101, which I found to be a great feature on days I'm running late.

Personally I think he desrves the time off. He works hard enough for it, and I'm getting a hell of alot more Howard.

here here Boba Booey

Right on, Boba Booey!

I could care less about Howard taking Fridays off. I knew he was going to when I signed up, it came as no surprise.

However, I didn't sign up and pay good money for that talentless fuckhead, Ralph. Especially when there are some very talented people around to take the air time that is being wasted on him.


I subscribed for Howard's show, not for any other show or any other station.

I couldn't care less about what's on the rest of Sirius. If there's something else worth listening to on Sirius, then I consider it a bonus.

I thought the Friday show was entertaining. :D

The whining will probably stop once all subscribers have full access to the show...much of the problem is due to the fact that many of us aren't able to hear much of the show because of lack of satellite access. Once the show starts streaming over the internet, all of the complaining should stop. :bow:

Great post mutt, This thread should be Pinned, for all the whinners

by the way...for those wishing the breaks were a little longer so you could do more....most sirius tuners have a pause and rewind feature. i deliver blood to hospitals...and when i leave the vehicle, i just pause the show...how fucking cool is that?

this doens't seem possible to me but I'll take your word for it. any idea how long todays show is when it's commercial free? this would be very helpful.

I just pulled up my files of the sirius shows and NOT ONE of them is under 4 hours without commercials. The longest being over 5 hours. Mutt I dont know why you even bother with all this BS, you offer a great site but when all is said and done it seems to be turning into a great deal of grief for you, I hope you continue and dont decide it is too much trouble. Just my way of saying thanks.

dumb question...yer postin' ain't ya dude?...have ya paid anything yet?...

Topic avoidance: I bet you've always been like this when the argument exceeds your mental capacity.

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I'm still listening to Wednesdays show. I'll be able to catch up just in time for Monday with this 4 day schedule. Recording the show is a good solution. I've got Howard 7days a week because of it.

:rock: on MUTT

I need a clip of karloff saying bullshit for my first post. anyone got it?

Good job with the math Mutt,
Being a bookkeeper I must say not bad.. I have no complaint except my antenna issues and as for Fridays as I posted I put on coffeehouse and enjoyed the day. I am no Ralph fan, but Stern is the Best no matter.
I even mentioned when Art Bell went to 3 then 2 nights from 5 on his #1 AM overnight show.. the fans all wanted him full time but in time they accepted his other hosts.. I must say I am sad to have heard of his wifes death..:(

<----not a winner as I paid a full year in advance and trust in Howard to do as he has always done........Great Radio...
:D :D

I actually liked the Friday show. I was talking to a friend of mine and we were sayiing that as much as we tried to we really couldn't hate it. I wont go crazy for it but it was funny. I could do without Ralph in all areas of the show but hey he is someone I do love to hate.

This is a wonderful place to air our views. Thank you so much Mutt.

The Friday wrap up show sucks.
If Howard is so concerned about his channel he needs to be on 5 days a week. Noone else can talk and entertain the way Howard does. F-Ralph, F-Ronnine Mund