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Old 11-05-2009, 02:44 PM   Reload page at this post. # 1
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~*~*~ 2009/2010 Big East Hoops Thread ~*~*~

Doubt they three #1 seeds again this year, but it should still be a competitive year in The Beast.

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Old 11-05-2009, 02:44 PM   Reload page at this post. # 2
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(Schools listed in predicted order of finish)

1. Villanova
Scottie Reynolds headlines a core that consists of three of the top four scorers from last season's Final Four team. He averaged 15.2 points and 3.4 assists for the Wildcats, who beat American, UCLA, Duke and Pitt on their way to Detroit. It was an impressive run, and yet a run made with Dante Cunningham, Dwayne Anderson and Shane Clark. So it remains to be seen whether Jay Wright can keep his team at that level despite those losses. But a consensus top five recruiting class means the goal must be a Big East title and another trip to the Final Four.


2. Connecticut
A testament to the talent Jim Calhoun has assembled is the fact that the Huskies lost their top three scorers from a Final Four team and are still good enough to make the Final Four again. Hard as that is to believe, it's true. With Kemba Walker and Stanley Robinson back in the mix, the Huskies have a nice core. Combine that with a healthy Jerome Dyson (was averaging 13.2 ppg before an injury ended his season) and a top 10 recruiting class featuring Alex Oriakhi, and it's clear UConn is plenty talented enough to remain at the top of the Big East.

3. West Virginia
Remember in the SEC preview when I acknowledged picking Vanderbilt fifth in the Eastern Division is likely to make me look stupid? I feel the same way about picking West Virginia third in the Big East. A Bob Huggins team with Darryl Bryant, Joe Mazzulla (back from injury), Wellington Smith, Da'Sean Butler and Devin Ebanks is talented and super tough. Of the group, Ebanks is my favorite. The sophomore forward averaged 15.5 points and 11.2 rebounds in West Virginia's final six games last season. Those could be his normal numbers this season and the foundation for a serious Big East Player of the Year campaign.

4. Louisville
It's been a wild few months for Louisville, thanks to Rick Pitino's extortion case and the arrest of Jerry Smith and Terrence Jennings. But, thank God for the Cardinals, the offseason is over. So now the focus can return to the court, where Pitino is operating without Earl Clark and Terrence Williams from last season's team that earned a No. 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Still, there is talent in the program. Samardo Samuels is back after averaging 11.8 points and 4.9 rebounds as a freshman; he'll be joined by veterans like Edgar Sosa, Smith and Jennings. But the most interesting thing to watch might be the development of Peyton Siva, a freshman point guard from Seattle. He had eight assists and six steals in Louisville's first exhibition. Sure, Siva also had six turnovers. But the point is that he's an exciting addition, and the McDonald's All-American can be a difference-maker if he gets a little more under control.

5. Georgetown
Greg Monroe's decision to return to school despite being projected in the lottery was a gift; the 6-11 forward averaged 12.7 points and 6.5 rebounds last season. But Monroe only averaged eight field goal attempts per contest, and someone of his caliber has to be more assertive, particularly when you consider that Notre Dame's Luke Harangody averaged 19 field goal attempts a game. In fairness, Monroe isn't a natural scorer; that's the hang-up. But I'm going to be wildly disappointed if he came back to college to be the best passing big man in the county. I want to see him dominate the way he's capable of dominating, and if he does then Georgetown will make the NCAA tournament.

6. Syracuse
Xavier's Jordan Crawford has the hype because of his summer dunk on LeBron, and Memphis guard Elliot Williams is high-profile because he used to play at Duke. But the nation's best transfer might actually be Syracuse's Wesley Johnson, the 6-7 wing from Iowa State. He averaged 12.4 points and 4.0 rebounds for the Cyclones two seasons ago and is good enough to make up for some of the production lost by the departures of Jonny Flynn (17.4 ppg), Eric Devendorf (15.7 ppg) and Paul Harris (12.0 ppg). Expect Johnson, Andy Rautins and Arinze Onuaku to all score in double-figures, and the Orange to return to the NCAA tournament.

7. Notre Dame
Losing Purdue transfer Scott Martin to a torn ACL in a preseason workout was a tough blow. But the Irish still have Luke Harangody, which means they have a chance to shake last season's disastrous campaign and be competitive again. Harangody averaged 23.3 points and 11.8 rebounds as a junior and is a consensus First Team All-American. He'll miss Kyle McAlarney, of course. And Ryan Ayers, too. But Mississippi State transfer Ben Hansbrough is eligible after sitting out last season and ready to share the backcourt with Tory Jackson. If those two are solid, Notre Dame will finish in the top half of the league and be in play for an at-large bid.

8. Cincinnati
Though the eligibility issue surrounding Lance Stephenson remains unsettled, most believe he'll eventually be cleared to compete as a freshman, at which point the Big East will have its most intriguing player. Will he set a scoring record? Will he destroy a promising roster? There's no way to know for sure, but it's clear Mick Cronin took a calculated risk bringing in the controversial prospect. If Stephenson decides to guard and play well with his talented teammates (among them All-Big East candidates Deonta Vaughn and Yancy Gates), the Bearcats could sneak into the top five of this league. If not, they could fall to the bottom five, which is why Cincinnati will be fun to watch.

9. Pittsburgh
Jamie Dixon has never won fewer than 20 games, never missed the NCAA tournament in six years as a head coach. But this should be his most challenging season considering Sam Young (19.2 ppg), DeJuan Blair (15.7 ppg), Levance Fields (10.7 ppg and 7.5 apg) and Tyrell Biggs (6.4 ppg) are no longer around to dominate the Big East. Meantime, Jermaine Dixon is recovering from foot surgery. So, at the moment, the Panthers are without all five starters from last season's 31-win team, and even the greatness of freshman Dante Taylor -- the McDonald's All-American scored 27 points in Pitt's first exhibition -- won't be enough to ensure a smooth transition.

10. Seton Hall
Bobby Gonzalez has his most talented team to date, and if all goes right the Pirates could make a run at the NCAA tournament. But is it really possible that all goes right? Gonzalez has brought in gifted but questionable-character guys in Keon Lawrence (transfer from Missouri) and Herb Pope (transfer from New Mexico State), and most believe things will blow up, sooner or later. If so, Gonzalez could pay with his job. But if he can somehow blend Jeremy Hazell (22.7 ppg), Robert Mitchell (14.6 ppg and 8.0 rpg) and Eugene Harvey (12.5 ppg) with his newcomers, then this team will finish in the top half of the Big East, for certain.

11. St. John's
Norm Roberts begins the season just like he began last season, with his job security very much in doubt. This is his sixth year at the school, and he's never finished better than 11th in the league; news that Anthony Mason Jr. will start things sidelined with an injury won't make things easier. But this St. John's team should be better with or without a healthy Mason, although it's all relative in the Big East. The Red Storm could be good and not crack the top eight. If so, will that be enough to give Roberts another season?

12. Marquette
Buzz Williams was tremendous in his first season at Marquette, but this is where he'll earn his paycheck. That program-changing class of Jerel McNeal, Dominic James and Wesley Matthews is gone, and Lazar Hayward is the lone returning starter. He averaged 16.3 points and 8.6 rebounds last season, but he's never had to carry a team the way he'll need to carry this team. Making things worse is that freshman point guard Junior Cadougan tore his Achilles tendon in a preseason workout and is out for the season. Bottom line, this is a rebuilding year for Williams, and it won't get easier until Cadougan returns and is joined next season by Vander Blue, a star shooting guard from the Class of 2010 who committed to Marquette last month.

13. South Florida
On some level it's an impossible task, what Stan Heath is trying to do, because turning USF into a force in the Big East is the tallest of tall challenges. But Heath has assembled a relatively talented group of players, and this should be his best team since moving from Arkansas. Again, it's all relative; the Bulls haven't finished better than 14th in the league. But a core of Dominique Jones (18.1 ppg) and Augustus Gilchrist (10.2 ppg) could be enough to upset a few opponents. The addition of Ohio State transfer Anthony Crater will help, too.

14. Providence
Keno Davis is similar to Williams at Marquette in that his first year was better than anticipated, but his second year could be rough. Five players who averaged at least eight points per game are gone, among them Weyinmi Efejuku (15.7 ppg). It should clear the way for Sharaud Curry to increase his scoring load significantly, and Marshon Brooks (33 points in the Friars' first exhibition) could have a breakout season. But it's still difficult to envision Providence competing in the top half of this league. Too much was lost at the same time.

15. Rutgers
Mike Rosario (16.2 ppg as a freshman) is a great Big East talent, and Gregory Echenique (8.4 ppg and 8.4 rpg) is solid up front. But there just isn't enough here to make any real impact in this league. The larger question is whether Fred Hill can do enough to make his seat a little less hot? His Big East record is 8-44 through three seasons. If that doesn't improve, the call for a coaching change will grow louder given that two years of Rosario would've amounted to nothing.

16. DePaul
The good news is that there is nowhere to go but up after an 0-18 record in the Big East; can't really do worse. But the bad news is that the best player (Dar Tucker) from that team is gone, and Will Walker (14.6 ppg) and Mac Koshwal (12.2 ppg and 9.6 rpg) aren't enough to help the Blue Demons make significant progress. It's why Jerry Wainwright's fifth season will probably be his last. Then somebody else can come in and try to turn DePaul back into a nationally relevant program.
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Old 11-05-2009, 03:07 PM   Reload page at this post. # 3
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i agree i think WVU will have a huge year in basketball
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:18 PM   Reload page at this post. # 6
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i agree i think WVU will have a huge year in basketball
Yeah, I think they are on everyone's list as a team to watch this year. They kind of snuck up on everyone last season, but its clear now that Huggins has built something out there in WV.

Georgetown and ND should be able to make some noise as well.
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Old 11-06-2009, 09:46 AM   Reload page at this post. # 7
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UConn will fall back down along with Louisville. Big East will be average this year.

Nova should win if they can find get some production in the paint from their big guys. Right now I would give the edge to WVU to win the Big East.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:55 PM   Reload page at this post. # 8
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I fully expect that my Pirates will continue to stink up the joint this season. Gonzalez hasn't done the job thus far.....
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:53 AM   Reload page at this post. # 9
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I fully expect that my Pirates will continue to stink up the joint this season. Gonzalez hasn't done the job thus far.....
It's hard to win at places like St. John's and Seton Hall but I think both will surprise a bit this year.
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I fully expect that my Pirates will continue to stink up the joint this season. Gonzalez hasn't done the job thus far.....
Seton Hall is my surprise team for the Big East. Don't expect much, but they will be solid.
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The Friars will finish 11th or 12th. They should be okay in 2 or 3 years when they are fully Keno's team.
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:11 AM   Reload page at this post. # 12
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Hitting up the Garden for the Coaches vs. Cancer semis tonight.

Cuse is playing Cal with UNC/Ohio State to follow.

I will be pulling for the Orange to come out on top just so it helps bolster the Big East, but I think they may have a tough time with Cal's top 3 scorers coming back in Randle, Christopher and Roberstson. The 3 of them are shooting 46% from behind the arc so far, so they will really stretch Cuse's zone out. I really wanna see Randle play in person. I love his game.

Hopefully traveling across the country and playing in the Garden will slow Cal down though. You Cuse fans usually travel pretty well for games down here, so it should be almost like a home game tonight.
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wow, enjoy the games tonight. Should be a good time.

Going to the SFRT at Sutton Place beforehand to get your drink on?
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Old 11-19-2009, 11:34 AM   Reload page at this post. # 14
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Nah. Just gonna hit up somewhere around the Garden. Most likely Mustang Sally's, but maybe Stout or even just Play-by-Play depending on the time.

I do love Sutton Place most nights though. That place is like make-out city around 1 am. Medicated Pete could find a good looking girl to fuck him there.
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Old 11-19-2009, 12:21 PM   Reload page at this post. # 15
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Big game for the Pirates tomorrow against Cornell, than this weekend it's the always tough Long Island followed by N.J.I.T
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Enjoy the games and take the Cuse/Ohio St ML.
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Nova down 9 to George Mason. Can CAA pull off the upset?
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Lets go Cuse, big game tonight against Cal in MSG, and then either Ohio St or UNC tomorrow.
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Nova pulls it out. Glad I got -10 2nd half.
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Whew. Too many fouls and shitty foul shooting killed Nova today.

I have a feeling there will be a lot of games like that for them this year.

Win is a win though.
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Wow....12 secs left and Mason couldn't even get off one shot.....poor
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Syracuse all over Cal. Completely dominated. Cuse were shooting unnecessary 3's for half the night(and not making them), and this game was still never in question. Wesley Johnson is a beast, look out UNC or Ohio St.
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when the 'Cuse is in the house..OH MY GODD...
DANGER

(taking some major adjusting to view this young kids.but im slowly but surely liking this team yet again...long athletic guys at every position..Mookie should be good,i think Boeheim will let him loose in stretches..)plus,these look like more mature,and high bball IQ guys that waited for this shot for a bit,alil diff. from recent squads.
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I am convinced the Garden laces their beers with something. No matter vwghat I g there for or how much/little i drink i alwatys leave completely wasted.

Cuse looked impressive. Hopefullty they knovck off the heels tomorrow after nobva rolls dayton.
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pretty quiet lame MSG crowd tonight it seemd like.
was it that dead n emotionless in there like it seemed,Mikey??hnstly
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