Prosecution reveals details of the Kobe / Faber case

[Mutt]

Finally the pieces all start to come together in the Kobe Bryant Kate Faber rape case. Kobe checks into the hotel / spa. 19 year old Katelyn Kristine Faber is working behind the desk. He asks her for a tour. While giving him the tour, Kobe invites her back to his room that evening. She accepts the invite and that night goes up to his room. Kate was only in his room for a half hour. Within that half hour, they engaged in consentual sex acts. She wewnt there to bang plain and simple. Kobe must of answered the door naked because the didn't waste anytime. Then there was non-consentual sex in which she was injured. She got dressed, and left crying. All of this happened within a half hour. Thre days later she was at a party bragging about her night with Kobe and how big his unit was. A week later there was still visible evidence of the damages done to her by Kobe. She then pressed the rape charges.

From what we've learned earlier, witnesses heard her crying form inside the room and heard Kobe call her a white bitch. So what could have happened. She went to the room to have sex with him and admits to having consentual sex, so what was the non-consentual sex? It's already been reported by www.Brachman.com that the reason this case is going to be such a big deal is because it involves anal sex. The prosecution's details support the anal. So lets fill in the blanks. They were having consentual vaginal sex, then it changed to anal. He never asked for it. He evidently ripped her ass apart. It hurt and she made him stop. Perhaps he wouldn't stop, we don't know yet. Either way, he is being charged with rape because he had consent for vaginal sex and not anal. Thats going to be a hard case to try. He had consent to have sex but not in her ass.

source : http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/sports/6422460.htm

Philadelphia Inquirer
Posted on Thu, Jul. 31, 2003

Sources set case vs. Bryant
The prosecution is expected to focus on the alleged victim's injuries and accuse the NBA star of deception.
From Inquirer Wire Services

Injuries suffered by the alleged victim and the prosecution's belief that Kobe Bryant intentionally deceived law enforcement officials are key elements of the prosecution's sexual-assault case against Bryant, sources familiar with the case have told ESPN and ABC News.

According to the sources, the Los Angeles Lakers guard met his alleged victim when she gave him a tour of the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo., during which he invited the woman to come to his room later that evening and she accepted.

On the night of June 30, the 19-year-old woman went to Bryant's room, where she spent less than half an hour, the sources said.

ABC News sources say that the two engaged in some consensual sexual activity in Bryant's room, but that the intercourse that took place was not consensual. Those sources say that the alleged victim suffered some physical injuries, which Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert and his staff plan to say prove that the sex was not consensual.

According to ESPN's sources, prosecutors also believe that Bryant intentionally deceived police officers and that his statements to them were inconsistent.

Eagle County Judge Russell Granger ordered the court records sealed when he issued an arrest warrant for Bryant in early July.

Despite the judge's warnings about too much publicity in the case, media organizations want a look at the sealed records, which include details about the accusation and information used to obtain arrest and search warrants, such as physical evidence.

Bryant, 24, is free on bond pending a court hearing Wednesday during which he will be formally advised of the charge against him.

County Judge Frederick Gannett will hear arguments today during a four-hour hearing on whether the records should be made public. He agreed yesterday to allow cameras in the courtroom for that hearing.

Attorneys for media organizations - including the Los Angeles Times, Denver Post and NBC - have argued that many details have been publicized already, some by Bryant and Hurlbert. They also contend that the public should have the opportunity to determine the veracity of statements made by those involved in the case.

Hurlbert yesterday asked the judge to postpone the hearing, saying a 230-page filing by media attorneys he received late Tuesday was "untimely, disorganized and overly lengthy." The judge denied the request.

The district attorney and defense lawyers want to keep the records sealed, arguing that publicity could affect Bryant's right to a fair trial. Defense attorneys Pamela Mackey and Hal Haddon also have asked Gannett to reconsider the order allowing cameras in the courtroom during Bryant's initial appearance on Wednesday.

Gannett has ordered a limit on public comment about the case by attorneys, authorities and others, including Bryant and any witnesses. He said the order was necessary to guarantee a fair trial.

Gannett also warned organizations not to publish or broadcast the name or photograph of any witness, juror, potential juror, or the alleged victim and her family on the courthouse grounds. Any organization violating the order could be denied a seat in the courtroom.

Virtually all American newspapers and news organizations have policies against releasing the identities of sex-abuse victims.

Several dozen news organizations are expected to show up for Bryant's initial appearance, during which he will be formally advised of his rights, the charge against him and the possible penalties.

[AK]

Holy shit I wish I could be a fly on the wall during that trial.

Oh wait, isn't that going to be on tv?

[Beelzebub]

Originally Posted by Mutt

They were having consentual vaginal sex, then it changed to anal. He never asked for it. He evidently ripped her ass apart.

Don't ya hate it when that shit happens?

[shutupyabitch]

I hope he finished in the dumb bitches face

[Themaeds]

i hope he gets charged, soley because i hate the lakers

he probably wont though

[AK]

She probably wanted it in the ass and then realized how big that gorilla dick was and decided against it when her rectum went into her throat.

[Mutt]

Under Colorado law, a rape can still occur if the victim consents to some sexual activity, but later withdraws her consent or refuses to give consent to other sexual activity, including intercourse.

source : http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Go...ant030730.html

When ‘No’ Means ‘No’
Sources: Kobe Bryant, Alleged Victim Had Contact But Sex Wasn’t Consensual



July 31— NBA superstar Kobe Bryant and his alleged rape victim had some intimate contact, sources told ABCNEWS, but prosecutors will argue that their intercourse was not consensual.



Bryant is charged with sexual assault for allegedly raping a 19-year-old woman. She worked at a lodge where he was staying when he was in Colorado for knee surgery in late June.

The Los Angeles Lakers guard, who is married and has an infant daughter, has admitted committing adultery with the woman but insisted the sex was consensual. He will be formally advised of the charges against him on Aug. 6.

Sources told ABCNEWS that Bryant, 24, and the alleged victim met when he checked into the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in Edwards, Colo., on June 30, and she gave him a tour of the facility. Bryant called the front desk from his room and asked for the woman and she went up to his room.

Sources said the alleged victim was in Bryant's room for less than half an hour. There was some consensual contact between Bryant and his accuser, but the woman says she did not consent to intercourse. She sustained some physical injuries, sources said, which Eagle County prosecutors are expected to argue are indicative of sexual assault.

A Strong Case Without a ‘Smoking Gun’?

Under Colorado law, a rape can still occur if the victim consents to some sexual activity, but later withdraws her consent or refuses to give consent to other sexual activity, including intercourse. Sources said Bryant's trial could boil down to a battle of medical experts from the defense and prosecution over whether the young woman's injuries indicate nonconsensual sex.

Besides Bryant and the alleged victim, there were no other eyewitnesses to the incident, and prosecutors do not have a "smoking gun." However, the prosecution still believes it has a strong case against Bryant. In past interviews, Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert has said there was evidence that Bryant forced the victim into "submission" through physical force and caused "sexual penetration or intrusion."

In addition, sources said, prosecutors are expected to argue that Bryant deceived law enforcement officials and that he gave inconsistent statements. Bryant's defense has said that he has been forthcoming and cooperative with law enforcement officials and stressed that he flew back to Colorado to surrender to authorities there in his July 4 arrest. Bryant was released an hour later after posting $25,000 bond.

Judge Lays Down the Law

Bryant faces probation to life in prison if convicted on the single felony count.

The judge presiding over this phase of the sexual assault case has warned reporters they may not get a seat in his courtroom for the Aug. 6 hearing if their news organizations publish the name or photograph of the alleged victim. Her identity, along with her address and phone number, have been posted on various Web sites and a Los Angeles-based talk show host has used the alleged victim's name on the air.

Several Web sites also have wrongly identified another young woman, Katie Lovell, as Bryant's accuser. Today Lovell appeared on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America and asked that her name and photograph be removed from those sites.

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by Mutt

While giving him the tour, Kobe invites her back to his room that evening. She accepts the invite and that night goes up to his room. Kate was only in his room for a half hour. Within that half hour, they engaged in consentual sex acts. She wewnt there to bang plain and simple. [/url]

So she knew exactly what she was doing. Doesn't these girls ever learn to not go up to a hotel room with a celebrity? This shit always happens to them.

[shutupyabitch]

If I had a dick that big I would have fucked her in the ass dry, cum in her face, then flush her head down the toilet, punch her in the face, then throw her out of the room.

[Beelzebub]

Imagine how many times Kobe (and other athletes too) have pulled that move. "Hey, can you give me a tour? Oh yeah, and stop by my room later for about 1/2 hr of sex later too."

[Themaeds]

Originally Posted by Pebbles

So she knew exactly what she was doing. Doesn't these girls ever learn to not go up to a hotel room with a celebrity? This shit always happens to them.

Plus she was working, so Kobe can just use the excuse that she was providing customer service....He wasnt satisfied with his room.

[Mutt]

Found this at Kobe Watch

State of Colorado Opens Kobe Case Web Site - Prosecutors hope it will free them up from all the phone calls they've been getting from the media.

http://www.courts.state.co.us/exec/media/eagle/5thpressindex.htm

[smokinjoe]

Hope that nigga gets it in the ass dry when he gets to jail.

[Sammy Girl]

Originally Posted by Pebbles

So she knew exactly what she was doing. Doesn't these girls ever learn to not go up to a hotel room with a celebrity? This shit always happens to them.

Obviously she did, what did she think they were going up there to talk or some shit. Shes just a stupid girl looking for attention. But damn she was only there for 30 mins..how much shit can go down in such a short amount of time.

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by smokinjoe

Hope that nigga gets it in the ass dry when he gets to jail.

They'll probably just want his autograph.

[Beelzebub]

Originally Posted by smokinjoe

Hope that nigga gets it in the ass dry when he gets to jail.

Yeah but everyone will want him on their team on the yard when its b-ball time.

[AK]

Originally Posted by Sammy Girl

Shes just a stupid girl looking for attention.

Damn that sounds awfully familiar. Where have I seen that before?

[shutupyabitch]

Yeah, I hope he gets annaly raped in jail from some gorilla

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by Sammy Girl

Obviously she did, what did she think they were going up there to talk or some shit. Shes just a stupid girl looking for attention. But damn she was only there for 30 mins..how much shit can go down in such a short amount of time.

He's pretty quick for only 30 minutes of sex & anal!!
It's too bad she got anal though. He probably didn't use KY and just rammed it up there. That's probably why she left crying.
But if she said no, it does mean no.

[shutupyabitch]

Originally Posted by Pebbles

He's pretty quick for only 30 minutes of sex & anal!!
It's too bad she got anal though. He probably didn't use KY and just rammed it up there. That's probably why she left crying.
But if she said no, it does mean no.

Would you let Kobey give you anal???

[Pebbles]

No mean no rape law story from MSNBC

[Sammy Girl]

Originally Posted by Pebbles

He's pretty quick for only 30 minutes of sex & anal!!
It's too bad she got anal though. He probably didn't use KY and just rammed it up there. That's probably why she left crying.
But if she said no, it does mean no.

hahah yes he is pretty quick.... But why the hell didn't she get the hell out of there or at least try to or start screaming really loud..someone got to of heard it. Walls in hotels are very thin.

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by shutupyabitch

Would you let Kobey give you anal???

No way!

[shutupyabitch]

Originally Posted by Pebbles

No way!

dumb bitch

[Pebbles]

Originally Posted by Sammy Girl

hahah yes he is pretty quick.... But why the hell didn't she get the hell out of there or at least try to or start screaming really loud..someone got to of heard it. Walls in hotels are very thin.

Well supposedly somebody heard him calling her a white bitch. I posted that story in another thread. At least somebody in the hotel said that she heard him yelling at her.