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| Dickie Smalls |
http://www.radioandrecords.com/News...siriusprice.asp
Sirius Price To Go Up, Exec Promises
Speaking today in New York at the Bernstein Strategic Decisions conference, Sirius EVP/CFO David Frear squashed any hints that Sirius might raise its monthly $12.95 service fee, commenting, "Raise prices? It was not a hint. We said we will raise prices, we just haven't said when. But prices will go up."
Frear justified the increase, saying, "Our service launched at $12.95 with 100 channels. We've added 33 channels. It is a much richer content offering than what we brought to market five years ago." Examples of the added and varied content, Frear said, were Howard Stern, Martha Stewart, a Catholic channel, the Playboy channel and NASCAR racing.
While Frear did not reveal details on when any new price structure would take effect, he also made it clear that Sirius would at some point launch a separate fee structure for streaming Sirius programming on the Internet. He noted that Stern's show has the potential for a particularly large streaming audience but that the subscription radio provider needs to work out the technological kinks in servicing such a large crowd.
And while Frear claimed Sirius is "the best radio on radio," he said, "less than half of the people in the country are able to name us on an unaided basis." But he argued that is a indication of growth potential for the company.
Frear also stressed that Sirius is focused on bringing down the cost of acquiring subscribers — it's dropped from an original $293 to about $110 per subscriber today — and said while Sirius has about 4 million subscribers, it figures that there are "2.2 listeners per subscription," putting Sirius' total audience at about 9 million.
Asked about FCC concerns about satellite receivers' emissions, Frear said Sirius receiver manufacturers' engineers met with Sirius and FCC engineers "about two or three weeks ago, they made the appropriate changes and our receivers are corrected the emission problems and our radios are rolling out of the plants now."
— Jeffrey Yorke, R&R Washington Bureau Chief
Even at $20 a month is a bargain to me |
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| jrinck |
| Sorry, Howard, but I won't go for $20 a month unless they scrap the commercials. They made his $500 million deal at the $12.95 price point--they don't need to get greedy. |
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| Epsilon |
| I can understand why they want to. Im sure they won't raise it to $20, but if they bump it up a dollar or two I won't care. |
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| spikedavis |
Wow.
"how big are ya balls?"
Talk about arrogance... |
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| Scott114 |
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| Die Already |
wow! my $500 lifetime subscription was the smartest move yet!!! wooooohooooo!!!
No fee rise for me. |
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| muntz |
| its on other threads too... im not willing for 20 a month but up to 15 i can live with it... but then i have the lifetime sub too... |
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| kincade |
Quote: Originally posted by jrinck
Sorry, Howard, but I won't go for $20 a month unless they scrap the commercials. They made his $500 million deal at the $12.95 price point--they don't need to get greedy. |
Scrap commericals? Try having more commericals. The minute they think they can get away with more commericals, they'll be more. Count on it. |
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| JJJ5032 |
| Yea i think 20 bucks is a bit excessive especially for a college student like me. One or two doesnt make much of a difference to me |
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| Die Already |
i dont see how they plan to add millions more at a price over $12.95/month. If they were to raise to $15, they better add 100 more channels of music.
SIRIUS is getting greedy. Im sure they have bills up the ass to pay and not necessarily stuffing their pockets, but damn!!! More than $12.95 for the avg. subscriber is a bit much.
Again, i love my $500 lifetime sub! |
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| mechbull |
Quote: Originally posted by Die Already
wow! my $500 lifetime subscription was the smartest move yet!!! wooooohooooo!!!
No fee rise for me. |
me too i figured id be listening to howard for 5 years so it was gonna be worth it in the long run
the only way we get fucked is there is a $75 transfer fee to a new receiver only allowed 3 times |
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| SteelRat |
Quote: Originally posted by jrinck
Sorry, Howard, but I won't go for $20 a month unless they scrap the commercials. They made his $500 million deal at the $12.95 price point--they don't need to get greedy. |
They've been talking about this for over a year that I know of. All of their projections, including when they signed Howard's contract, were based on the plan that they would raise the price at some point. We're probably getting close now, but I'd guess next year. I read Mel K speculate in the range of an extra $2 per month. |
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| coreyconway |
what a bunch of crap!
they wouldn't have did this if they didn't get all of these subscribers just flow in like that. |
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| jrinck |
MP3 players are the ultimate competition to Sirius, not XM. Other than Howard, I use my S50, in large part, for pre-recorded music--much of it music I've downloaded or ripped.
Sirius can raise their prices, thinking that it's just them versus XM, but that would go down in history as one of the all time stupidest business moves of all time.
Here they are growing, and poised to become the leader, and they go and raise prices, killing the momentum they've struggled to earn, and fuck it all up in the process. |
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| arsmetal |
| Greed may end up hurting them. |
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| joetissirius |
| well so much for the 43 cents a day rationale |
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| RickenBat |
| Where in the article did it say the price would rise to $20? I see it nowhere so any price increase would be a guess. |
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| BisonHead |
| You lifetime subscription people think your immune? Stand by. |
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| arsmetal |
I only listen for Howard and thats it.
I buy CD's for music. |
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| Dickie Smalls |
Quote: Originally posted by RickenBat
Where in the article did it say the price would rise to $20? I see it nowhere so any price increase would be a guess. |
It doesnt, nobody said it was going to $20. However I feel even at $20 its a bargain. I listen to alot more then just Stern, I love the service.
I am however in my car for about 8 hours a day. |
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| ShavedBallSack |
Quote: Originally posted by Die Already
wow! my $500 lifetime subscription was the smartest move yet!!! wooooohooooo!!!
No fee rise for me. |
Yep true to that :)
maybe i should get a second radio and do another lifetime on that one as well :) |
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| Artierocks290 |
| Fuck that! I already pay to much to hear Howard. 2 units 13$ each and 14$ for Howard TV. Holy shit don't they realize XM is lowering their price? |
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| SteelRat |
Quote: Originally posted by coreyconway
what a bunch of crap!
they wouldn't have did this if they didn't get all of these subscribers just flow in like that. |
Read my last post. This has been built into their plan for a long time. What service do you know that stays at the same price forever? |
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| mechbull |
Quote: Originally posted by ShavedBallSack
Yep true to that :)
maybe i should get a second radio and do another lifetime on that one as well :) |
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lifetime option is dead you lose |
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| mugzilla |
I got sirius and the hype was that online would be available online to subscribers
I'm thinking great keep the unit in the car listen over my pc at home.... |
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| Black Sabbath |
| 20 bucks i'm gone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| jayr5150 |
| they talk about all the channels they added , i only listen to howard 100 and howard 101 so why shouldn't i get a discount, they are just a bunch on money hungry assholes, the playboy channel who really listens to that trash they got on that channel |
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| WillowGlen |
| Like Martha Stewart brought in subscribers. Who the fuck does he think hes kidding. Trying to use Howard as "new content" and an excuse to raise prices is bullshit. If Howard hadnt of signed they would still be charging 12.95 forever but to only 600K subscribers. This is nothing but fucking greed. If they raise the prices more than a dollar or two Ill cancel my second reciever and just stream at work. |
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| RickenBat |
Quote: Originally posted by BisonHead
You lifetime subscription people think your immune? Stand by. |
Exactly, I bought the lifetime AND THEN found out it only applies to the radio and NOT ME. :mad: |
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| MikeWalkerFart |
Quote: Originally posted by Die Already
wow! my $500 lifetime subscription was the smartest move yet!!! wooooohooooo!!!
No fee rise for me. |
hopefully your radio won't break in the next year or two.... to those who don't know, it's for the lifetime of your radio, not your lifetime.... |
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| RedBadger |
| I have 4 subscriptions, the main one, one in each car and one boombox at work. This could get expensive. And, I've been waiting for streaming, apparently naively thinking it would be included in the subscription. Oh well, I'm already bending over for the oil companies - guess I'm well prepared for any SIRIUS greed that comes my way. |
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| crackmc |
I have 2 receivers...one w/ a lifetime subscription, and one w/ a second subscription that Sirius is charging me less than $5 for.
I'd pay another $5 a month for Sirius. I came here for Stern, but I'd be a subscriber if he left tomorrow. I'm sold. Count me in as someone who isn't really bitching about a price increase. |
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| greddy10 |
| It is pretty expensive now, I mean its nice everything is uncensored and fewer comericals... but for 13 bucks it better be like that... if it goes up anymore, i think people will be cancelling there subscriptions. this would not be a good move on there part. I think they might do better to have it at 10 bucks, ( so its cheaper than XM) and people see XM at 13 bucks , and sirius at 10, they might go for the cheaper ( and better ) |
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| Ridley |
| They shouldn't raise prices until the get rid of all the lame DJs and program directors on the music channels to cut costs. |
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| Blade_Jones |
| $20 would be excessive. $15.00 they could probably get away with, but seriously they should think about throwing in 15 second commercials every 3 songs or so. They should have more live Sirius "events" like they did on Area 33 to create a buzz. |
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| jrinck |
Quote: Originally posted by Blade_Jones
$20 would be excessive. $15.00 they could probably get away with, but seriously they should think about throwing in 15 second commercials every 3 songs or so. They should have more live Sirius "events" like they did on Area 33 to create a buzz. |
Any commercials on the music stations and I'm outta there--even if they LOWER the price. I moved away from "free" FM because of the commercials. No way in fuck am I going to pay to hear them. |
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| OmC |
Quote: Originally posted by jrinck
Any commercials on the music stations and I'm outta there--even if they LOWER the price. I moved away from "free" FM because of the commercials. No way in fuck am I going to pay to hear them. |
agreed. |
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| MikeWalkerFart |
| I believe you get what you pay for.... even though it sucks to pay more, I don't mind if they raise the prices as good content increases.... |
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| BisonHead |
Quote: Originally posted by jrinck
Any commercials on the music stations and I'm outta there--even if they LOWER the price. I moved away from "free" FM because of the commercials. No way in fuck am I going to pay to hear them. |
Right! I even get annoyed when the DJ's decide to chatter too much. Just play the damn music! |
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| DryOatmeal |
Quote: Originally posted by kincade
Scrap commericals? Try having more commericals. The minute they think they can get away with more commericals, they'll be more. Count on it. |
yup, remember when cable tv was supposed to be "commercial free" ? |
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| ArtiesButtCrack |
Quote: Originally posted by jrinck
Any commercials on the music stations and I'm outta there--even if they LOWER the price. I moved away from "free" FM because of the commercials. No way in fuck am I going to pay to hear them. |
Word. |
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| thermovox |
| that would suck, but it's expected... but if/when it happens i'll prob just cancel some of my extra radios. sirius is cool and all, but i only listen to howard, when it comes to music i like to listen to my own cd/ipod mixes. |
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| ShavedBallSack |
Quote: Originally posted by BisonHead
Right! I even get annoyed when the DJ's decide to chatter too much. Just play the damn music! |
Thats funny I feel the same way,
I dont mind a lil chat if needed,
but Play the Music :) |
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| nedmark61 |
| they cant do it until they catch xm....cuz that would be a big marketing ploy for xm...its just the begining here...more commercials....more expensive units and higher monthly cost |
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| Moby |
| It was only a matter of time. We pobably have until about a month or two after Christmas. Sucks. |
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| DryOatmeal |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
they cant do it until they catch xm....cuz that would be a big marketing ploy for xm...its just the begining here...more commercials....more expensive units and higher monthly cost |
i know, sirius is already $10 more than xm riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight??????? |
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| ShavedBallSack |
How about this, they raise the prices,
and Howard keeps takeing a week off every couple months,
how long are you all gonna keep your subscriptions?
I surely wouldnt get a second subscription.
just glad i did the lifetime,
even if i do have to transfer the lifetime to another radio,
it would still be a better deal |
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| lamont sanford |
Quote: Originally posted by jrinck
Any commercials on the music stations and I'm outta there--even if they LOWER the price. I moved away from "free" FM because of the commercials. No way in fuck am I going to pay to hear them. |
Im with you....Id rather pay $60 more a year than hear ANY commercials ...plus I believe I read somewhere Mel K. said the music stations would always be commercial free!!! |
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| Zeke |
Quote: Originally posted by Die Already
wow! my $500 lifetime subscription was the smartest move yet!!! wooooohooooo!!!
No fee rise for me. |
Until your radio breaks or is stolen.....$75. fee for new set |
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| ShavedBallSack |
Quote: Originally posted by lamont sanford
Im with you....Id rather pay $60 more a year than hear ANY commercials ...plus I believe I read somewhere Mel K. said the music stations would always be commercial free!!! |
Only until they change their minds |
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| nedmark61 |
| im starting to get a little uneasy with howard lately....he never used to charge for anything and always berated people like kiss and bill orielly for selling everything....but its not commerical free like advertised...he's gonna be takin fridays off on top of most of the summer... and howard TV is a little steep as well... just sayin |
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| OmC |
Quote: Originally posted by lamont sanford
Im with you....Id rather pay $60 more a year than hear ANY commercials ...plus I believe I read somewhere Mel K. said the music stations would always be commercial free!!! |
Yeah and Howard said he would never settle the lawsuit...
~just sayin^^ |
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| DryOatmeal |
Quote: Originally posted by Die Already
wow! my $500 lifetime subscription was the smartest move yet!!! wooooohooooo!!!
No fee rise for me. |
for the lifetime of your "radio" |
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| nedmark61 |
| i mean i love the show to death and mean no disrespect...but this all goes back to the first lie he told us...the nose job |
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| Epsilon |
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
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| GoHaveSexWithYo |
| I bought my Chrysler 300C last year with a factory Sirius unit. As part of the deal, Chrysler pays for the 1st year of service. So as soon as I got the car, I called Sirius for info on a lifetime subscription. The cost was $350, from which they deducted what Chrysler already paid towards it and I got my lifetime subscription for $194. Nice. |
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| ShavedBallSack |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
i mean i love the show to death and mean no disrespect...but this all goes back to the first lie he told us...the nose job |
corporate is corporate, they get paid to lie
thats the bottom line |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
how long u worked there?? |
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| Habu |
That Sirius guy might find that for most people 15 dollars a month for a radio is not really good value anymore.
It is radio not television. Cable rates and radio rates are never going to be the same. Raise the price and I am sure their growth will stop.
Also Howard pays his own way and he has many commercials on his show now. Too many. They are all the same ad run over and over as there are so few sponsers. It gets annoying especially this week when the show content is a repeat.
Don't get greedy Sirius. Keep with the growth model and if you have to stop adding new content then stop doing it. If adding another Stern channel is going to raise prices then I would be happy to stick to the existing two. I heard all the KROCK shows the first time they aired. |
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| RUTRO |
I ONLY LISTEN TO MY RADIO FOR HOWARD OR CHANNEL 14 "CLASSIC VINYL"
WHEN MY KIDS ARE AROUND. WHAT EVER IT COSTS IS WHAT EVER IT COSTS. THAT LIFETIME FOR THE RADIO ONLY THING DOES SUCK. I NEVER KNEW THAT. FUCKING PRICKS :cool: |
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| SteelRat |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
im starting to get a little uneasy with howard lately....he never used to charge for anything and always berated people like kiss and bill orielly for selling everything....but its not commerical free like advertised...he's gonna be takin fridays off on top of most of the summer... and howard TV is a little steep as well... just sayin |
Howard does not set the subsciption price of Sirius.
Howard NEVER said that anything but the music channels were commercial free. He always said that his show would have commercials but less than terrestrial. |
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| nedmark61 |
| not everyone can afford a raise in a monthly cost....them trying 2 get more money out of subscription is way worse than someone trying to sell me junky no spin floor mat or a eib chair...just sayin |
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| BisonHead |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
Most of us are saying a small increase is OK , but 20 a month is unacceptable. |
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| Habu |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
You know they could have 100,000 hours of programing a day and guess what? I can only listen to 4 of them at the most. Stupid arguement. |
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| OmC |
| And they are gonna charge for the streaming?? Thats bullshit. |
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| chewbaka |
| When the price goes up it will be time for me to leave. I was going to buy a second radio but I think I will wait and see. |
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| arsmetal |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
No one said $15 would be greedy, $20 would be greedy. |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by SteelRat
Howard does not set the subsciption price of Sirius.
Howard NEVER said that anything but the music channels were commercial free. He always said that his show would have commercials but less than terrestrial. |
im not tryin 2 dog him...but he did market as his show being commercial free as well... the first show didnt even have any commercials...not sayin that 6 minutes of commercials is too much but if you noticed it has increased in the amount of commercial time every month |
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| Epsilon |
Quote: Originally posted by Habu
You know they could have 100,000 hours of programing a day and guess what? I can only listen to 4 of them at the most. Stupid arguement. |
I listen all day and night. But they should set prices based on how much YOU can listen to? I'd say you're the one with the stupid argument. |
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| harpo787 |
| I wouldn't mind paying an extra buck or so for Howard (and other shows not currently) streaming online. At the moment though, Howard is essentially all I listen to, and it IS available on the various torrents. |
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| bababooey2uall |
| it will go from $12.95 to $14.95. Anyone who thinks they would raise it to $20 in one shot is retarded. |
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| RedBadger |
| Since this is all speculation I'm not going to decide what I'll do until I'm actually faced with price increases. And, Howard is not SIRIUS - he works for SIRIUS. I don't believe he is responsible for price increases. I'm sure he'd say that if they start raising prices too soon it will drive people away and wouldn't be good for business in the long run. Don't blame Howard for corporate greed. |
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| ShavedBallSack |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
you can assume most people may listen to 3-5 different channels not 130
I am one of the many who dont listen to the radio 24 hrs a day I do work and sleep everyday
so take my 8hrs a day x 5 channels x 7 days a week divided by $15/mo
now thats a lil more accurate for the general public
now explain that to the oil barrons pulling in billions in profits,
why raise the price of gas?
they too are loosing money
that why gas prices are going up
riiiiiiight |
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| skynet74 |
| If they start raising prices, people are going to start getting real creative when choosing how to get the show. That's all I'm saying. |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I listen all day and night. But they should set prices based on how much YOU can listen to? I'd say you're the one with the stupid argument. |
but the die hards listen mostly 2 stern...mostly during the day...i dont give a fuck about 110 of the 133 channels |
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| BisonHead |
| Have they set a price for streaming yet? Because I think that will be expensive too. (between 10 to 15 bucks) |
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| SteelRat |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
im not tryin 2 dog him...but he did market as his show being commercial free as well... the first show didnt even have any commercials...not sayin that 6 minutes of commercials is too much but if you noticed it has increased in the amount of commercial time every month |
No, you are completely wrong. You misunderstood. Yes, they did the first show without commercials as a special event.
The commercial time has been six minutes per hour from the beginning, with the exception of the first show.
Quote: Originally posted by arsmetal
No one said $15 would be greedy, $20 would be greedy. |
Nobody from Sirius said $20. The orginal poster Dickie Small added his personal comment that he wouldn't mind $20. Mel K has talked in the past about an increase of a couple bucks. He said that was how much they believed they could raise it with only a small percentage of dropped subscriptions. They know that if they go higher than that, the cancellations will escalate.
Future price increases were always part of their business plan. By the way, the same will be true for XM. |
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| Epsilon |
Quote: Originally posted by arsmetal
No one said $15 would be greedy, $20 would be greedy. |
Three people said it: Die Already, WillwGlen, and RedBadger. |
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| ShavedBallSack |
they definatley need to wait at least a year before even a 50 cent increase,
they need to build a bigger base first, then gouge the customers |
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| ArtiesButtCrack |
Quote: Originally posted by Epsilon
I get a kick out of you people who whine that a small price increase would be greedy. You have access to about 130 channels with 24/7 programming.
That's 130 X 24 hours X 30 days = 93,600 hours of programming a month that you have access to. And $15 a month for that is greedy?
Also, both Sirius and XM are still losing money. All they're trying to do is make little moves here and there to get closer to actually making a profit on this business they're running. That's not greedy. |
130? Do you think anoyone has that varied taste in music and talk radio that they are going to enjoy all 130 channels?
Howard + Rock and Roll = 4 or 5 channels for me. |
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| nedmark61 |
| there were not 6 minutes of commercials that first month...i listened every day and i am know starting to notice the commercial time is increasing |
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| Epsilon |
Quote: Originally posted by ShavedBallSack
you can assume most people may listen to 3-5 different channels not 130
I am one of the many who dont listen to the radio 24 hrs a day I do work and sleep everyday |
I agree, that's whay I said you have access to 130 channels of programming, not that you're listening to all of them.
But poster 'Die Already' said if they raise they price by $2 they had better add another 100 channels. Now what sense does that make? |
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| Drex |
Quote: Originally posted by GoHaveSexWithYo
I bought my Chrysler 300C last year with a factory Sirius unit. As part of the deal, Chrysler pays for the 1st year of service. So as soon as I got the car, I called Sirius for info on a lifetime subscription. The cost was $350, from which they deducted what Chrysler already paid towards it and I got my lifetime subscription for $194. Nice. |
:rock: that is a great deal |
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| SteelRat |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
there were not 6 minutes of commercials that first month...i listened every day and i am know starting to notice the commercial time is increasing |
Yes, there were. For a little while at first they were doing two breaks per hour, so it was three minutes at a time. That was breaking up the flow too much, so now they do one block of six minutes. I can tell because I have listened on recordings all along and note the start and end times, and it's the same. |
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| SteelRat |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
but the die hards listen mostly 2 stern...mostly during the day...i dont give a fuck about 110 of the 133 channels |
Hey, if you only listen to Howard's channels, he's adding a third one so that's a 50% content increase. ;) |
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| arsmetal |
| I only listen to 1 channel and thats Howard 100. I have CD's for music so the whole 130 channel thing doesnt mean shit to me. they need to keep in mind that not everyone listens to every channel. |
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| ArtiesButtCrack |
Quote: Originally posted by SteelRat
Hey, if you only listen to Howard's channels, he's adding a third one so that's a 50% content increase. ;) |
So what? I don't even listen to the second one. |
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| ASU Sun Devil |
OK, I don't mind paying $2-3 more per month for each of my radios, but here's what I want:
1. I don't want to see "Acquiring Signal" written on my screen of my home boombox 30% of the time the radio is on. I want Sirius to upgrade my home antannae so that I can hear at least 99% of the broadcast that I am paying for.
2. I wan't better college football coverage. XM kicks Sirius' ASS in this department. If you're better than XM, get me that service.
3. Tell the DJ's on the music stations to SHUT THE FUCK UP. All I wan't them to do is say the song and artist. I don'y need to get to know these people.
That's all I ask. Take care of that, and I'm sold on the increase. |
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| ArtiesButtCrack |
| Bahhhh fuck it. This thread is pointless anyway. They are going to do it regardless. Some will go, most will stay. |
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| BoneHead64 |
| Go lifetime stupid. :rolleyes: |
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| arsmetal |
Quote: Originally posted by ArtiesButtCrack
Bahhhh fuck it. This thread is pointless anyway. They are going to do it regardless. Some will go, most will stay. |
Your right, I'll stay because of Howard and thats it. If it wasn't for Howard I would not own a Sat Radio. |
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| BoneHead64 |
Quote: Originally posted by ASU Sun Devil
OK, I don't mind paying $2-3 more per month for each of my radios, but here's what I want:
1. I don't want to see "Acquiring Signal" written on my screen of my home boombox 30% of the time the radio is on. I want Sirius to upgrade my home antannae so that I can hear at least 99% of the broadcast that I am paying for.
2. I wan't better college football coverage. XM kicks Sirius' ASS in this department. If you're better than XM, get me that service.
3. Tell the DJ's on the music stations to SHUT THE FUCK UP. All I wan't them to do is say the song and artist. I don'y need to get to know these people.
That's all I ask. Take care of that, and I'm sold on the increase. |
Maybe while they're fixing your antenna, they could clean your
house also? You unskilled bastard. :rolleyes: |
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| TOKER |
| I need to pay for that LIFE TIME shit |
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| gymm |
Quote: Originally posted by Habu
That Sirius guy might find that for most people 15 dollars a month for a radio is not really good value anymore.
It is radio not television. Cable rates and radio rates are never going to be the same. Raise the price and I am sure their growth will stop.
Also Howard pays his own way and he has many commercials on his show now. Too many. They are all the same ad run over and over as there are so few sponsers. It gets annoying especially this week when the show content is a repeat.
Don't get greedy Sirius. Keep with the growth model and if you have to stop adding new content then stop doing it. If adding another Stern channel is going to raise prices then I would be happy to stick to the existing two. I heard all the KROCK shows the first time they aired. |
You are 100% correct!!!! |
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| genericgeek |
In reality, howard doesn't cost Sirius that much to broadcast... If you think of it as bandwith. I'm going to assume that the bitrate that they send down the pipe on the music channels is higher than what they use to do talk radio. I've encoded the show at 24k and it sounds almost the same as the 56kbit or 64kbit encode, yet if you take an mp3 file of your favorite song and encode it at 24k, it sounds like dog shit!
This is something that's confused me for a long time... They stream almost all the music stations (which consume larger amounts of bandwith than talk), yet they think that streaming Howard will crash their systems because of bandwith?!? The argument doesn't ring true... I think the only logical reason is that they are wrapping it in some new kind of pricing structure... Dunno, all speculation, just doesn't make sense to me.
I can honestly say that I've only tuned into 100,101, and maybe a jazz station for the last year and 1/2. I would gladly pay ten bucks a month for those 3 channels... (oh, and 99 if it's classic stern...)
I do agree that most people don't listen to all 130+ stations, but maybe they could come up with some kind of ala carte plan where you choose 5-10 stations out of the 130 for a reduced price... Surely would take some of the bandwith load off of their system and allow for more growth before hardware upgrades are necessary on their end... |
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| BigFatArtie |
| paying for the channels A La Carte would be Fukin Sweet, but I have to listen to a lot of radio all day and i gotta say i'd pay any price for Sirius ! What I'm I gonna do, go back to testical radio? Never !! Or XM? NiggaPlease!! |
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