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| PicksForArtie |
I am going to bash his sorry ass until he gets a clutch game... I hope this board lasts until tonight, but I have a feeling this is going to go for years...
What the hell was his problem last night?? You know what bugs me about his sorry ass??? I would be apoligizing to Mussina, cause AROD always fucks his games up... Mussina was going for a shut out earlier in the year and AROD booted a easy ground ball in the 9th inning, then the runner that got on cause the error scored with 2 outs...
AROD, you suck!!! |
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| Pussah2 |
| kill yourself faggot |
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| WILL309 |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
I am going to bash his sorry ass until he gets a clutch game... I hope this board lasts until tonight, but I have a feeling this is going to go for years...
What the hell was his problem last night?? You know what bugs me about his sorry ass??? I would be apoligizing to Mussina, cause AROD always fucks his games up... Mussina was going for a shut out earlier in the year and AROD booted a easy ground ball in the 9th inning, then the runner that got on cause the error scored with 2 outs...
AROD, you suck!!! |
A-Rod is starting to remind me of a second baseman that the Yankees had a while back. He could always hit, although A-Rod hasnt been, but all of a sudden he started to develop throwing problems. Eventually he ended up in the outfield! His name: Chuck Knoblauch!!! Hey A-Rod, dont be a Knoblauch! |
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| Pussah2 |
it is called trying too hard and killing yourself to please non fans like picksforartie.
He comes up to bat and people boo him. If he pops up with the Yankees ahead they boo him. If he strikes out in the first inning they boo. It is fucking ridiculous already.
The guy works his ass off and is already a hall of famer. He doesnt use steroids like giambi who has been reembraced by teh fans. He is not a fucktard like randy johnson. Give the guy a a fucking break. It is july and he is in a slump. He is not putting up arod numbers but numbers better than many. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
it is called trying too hard and killing yourself to please non fans like picksforartie.
He comes up to bat and people boo him. If he pops up with the Yankees ahead they boo him. If he strikes out in the first inning they boo. It is fucking ridiculous already.
The guy works his ass off and is already a hall of famer. He doesnt use steroids like giambi who has been reembraced by teh fans. He is not a fucktard like randy johnson. Give the guy a a fucking break. It is july and he is in a slump. He is not putting up arod numbers but numbers better than many. |
He was cheered big time when he came.. he has EARNED the boos.. they started in the playoffs last year and they have continued throughout the season, cause he sucks... Giambi came clean, took a year to get himself straight and won some games... What has AROD done?? NOTHING!!! He might be a HOFer, he might work his ass off, I never denied that.. but you know what?? He is a typical player that cant handle NY, and it shows.... I hope he turns it around and does something when it matters... Its just a shame he has Knoblauch/Ed Whitson/Steve Sax disease, cause he needs to either get out of NY, or get over the booing and fucking do something!!!! |
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| FrankAbreu |
| Leave him alone, he's still the best player in baseball, and a sure fire first ballot Hall of Famer, and will end up with 700 HR, people need to get his back. A-Rod is so good, people boo kind of out of envy, like they gain pleasure from his misfortune. |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
He was cheered big time when he came.. he has EARNED the boos.. they started in the playoffs last year and they have continued throughout the season, cause he sucks... Giambi came clean, took a year to get himself straight and won some games... What has AROD done?? NOTHING!!! He might be a HOFer, he might work his ass off, I never denied that.. but you know what?? He is a typical player that cant handle NY, and it shows.... I hope he turns it around and does something when it matters... Its just a shame he has Knoblauch/Ed Whitson/Steve Sax disease, cause he needs to either get out of NY, or get over the booing and fucking do something!!!! |
matsui, randy johnson, sheffield did not do shit in the playoffs either |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by FrankAbreu
Leave him alone, he's still the best player in baseball, and a sure fire first ballot Hall of Famer, and will end up with 700 HR, people need to get his back. A-Rod is so good, people boo kind of out of envy, like they gain pleasure from his misfortune. |
You are misguided... I dont boo him, I root for him.. I saw him play a couple weekends ago in Tampa and me and my kids all cheered for him... But, he did like he has been doing, he sucked... I have no pleasure in watching him fail, I am a Yankee fan and I am tired of waiting for this guy to do something special more than once every 3 months.. I mean I can remember 2 times this year he came up big.. a walkoff HR and he had another big game after that.. Jeter almost always comes through or at least hits the ball hard.. last night he hit in the last inning and drilled the call but it was caught by the 2B, you just know he will hit it hard... where is some kinda consitancy?? I mean this guy is horrible when it counts and I continue to root for him, but he continues to dissapoint... So everyday he sucks I will keep this thread going and when he can come through in the clutch then its over...
Notice there are other people on the Yanks that have also been failing in the clutch, Bernie lately, Giambi, but these guys have come through SO MANY times in the past that its understanable when then have a off time here and there.. AROD hasnt earned this respect for the Yankees and he looks like shit when he is needed.. He is the best 5 run lead hitter in the game.. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
matsui, randy johnson, sheffield did not do shit in the playoffs either |
No, but they have a history of doing it in the past... AROD doesnt |
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| Lemonjello |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
What has AROD done?? NOTHING!!!
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Unless you count all the times he's done something (walkoff HR, 7 RBI, game-winning RBIs, etc)
BTW, he's scored 5 more runs than Jeter. I bet 95% of the boobirds didn't know that.
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
He is a typical player that cant handle NY, and it shows. |
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: (first time I've ever used 3 eyerolls)
48 HR, 130 RBI, .321 BA and an MVP in 2005....IN NEW YORK. |
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| Lemonjello |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
No, but they have a history of doing it in the past... AROD doesnt |
He only had 15 at-bats in the 2005 playoffs. Calling someone a choker (like many fans did) because he has a bad 15 at-bat stretch is ridiculous. Every player's season is full of very good and very bad 15 at-bat stretches.
He hit .320 in the 2004 playoffs with the Yanks, BTW. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by Lemonjello
He only had 15 at-bats in the 2005 playoffs. Calling someone a choker (like many fans did) because he has a bad 15 at-bat stretch is ridiculous. Every player's season is full of very good and very bad 15 at-bat stretches.
He hit .320 in the 2004 playoffs with the Yanks, BTW. |
You are funny, he has done this since the playoffs... I think the pressure of NY has gotten to him |
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| WILL309 |
| The pressure of playing in New York gets to alot of players. How many pitchers have left New York and become good pitchers where they go? Just look at Contreras. New York is probably one the hardest places to play, for any sport or team. I think most New York fans respect greatness and respect players who come to NY with a goal of winning it all and achieve that. Look at Messier, he came to NY & guaranteed a cup and he produced. But A-Rod has never done anything to make him a GREAT Yankee yet. He is a geat player and probably the best in baseball, who isnt on steroids. Yankee fans should continue to boo him till he starts playing like the A-Rod from the Mariners or Texas. |
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| TJGOnee |
As Yankee Fans we have grown to believe that.....
Giambi, A-Rod, Randy Johnson, Mussina, Sheffield, Matsui... none of these guys have technically "done shit" since they got here, because as Yankee fans, they don't have any platinum rings on their fingers with 27 diamonds...
As baseball fans we should...
just sit back and enjoy the fucking show while it lasts... The Yankees can rotate stars in and out all the want, but you'll never get the chance to appreciate a player like A-Rod, a crafty pitcher like the Moose, or a surly, tall motherfucker with one of the sickest sliders in history like Randy Johnson again, so just sit back, relax and enjoy the game with a beer.... |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by WILL309
The pressure of playing in New York gets to alot of players. How many pitchers have left New York and become good pitchers where they go? Just look at Contreras. New York is probably one the hardest places to play, for any sport or team. I think most New York fans respect greatness and respect players who come to NY with a goal of winning it all and achieve that. Look at Messier, he came to NY & guaranteed a cup and he produced. But A-Rod has never done anything to make him a GREAT Yankee yet. He is a geat player and probably the best in baseball, who isnt on steroids. Yankee fans should continue to boo him till he starts playing like the A-Rod from the Mariners or Texas. |
Well said... I didnt boo him a couple weekends ago, but if I saw him play again I would now... |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by TJGOnee
As Yankee Fans we have grown to believe that.....
Giambi, A-Rod, Randy Johnson, Mussina, Sheffield, Matsui... none of these guys have technically "done shit" since they got here, because as Yankee fans, they don't have any platinum rings on their fingers with 27 diamonds...
As baseball fans we should...
just sit back and enjoy the fucking show while it lasts... The Yankees can rotate stars in and out all the want, but you'll never get the chance to appreciate a player like A-Rod, a crafty pitcher like the Moose, or a surly, tall motherfucker with one of the sickest sliders in history like Randy Johnson again, so just sit back, relax and enjoy the game with a beer.... |
I really dont understand what the hell you are saying here... Giambi, Mussina, Sheffield, and Matsui have been great Yankees.. They have come through in the clutch many times and produced consistanly, so i have no clue what you point was about them.. RJ is just getting old, nothing to bash about him, he is just getting old... |
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| TJGOnee |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
I really dont understand what the hell you are saying here... Giambi, Mussina, Sheffield, and Matsui have been great Yankees.. They have come through in the clutch many times and produced consistanly, so i have no clue what you point was about them.. RJ is just getting old, nothing to bash about him, he is just getting old... |
I'm just saying that if the Yankees had won in '04 & '05, and A-Rod and the gang had rings, then people wouldn't be fanning the flames about how he's playing... I'll take the numbers A-Rod has put up since he got here, with a ring or without one... The bottom line is that the entire team, is mostly made up of guys who have accomplished things away from the Yankees and are certified Hall-Of-Famers, but untill they achieve the ultimate goal, as a team and win a title, they all deserve a little knocking |
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| TJGOnee |
granted he makes $25.2 mill a year, but since the next highest paid player behind him is Manny at $20 mill, does A-Rod have to play $5.2 mill better than him to make up the difference...
too many times expectations come from salary and it's not fair...
if some moron in Texas is gonna pay that much for a player, then that's their problem |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by TJGOnee
I'm just saying that if the Yankees had won in '04 & '05, and A-Rod and the gang had rings, then people wouldn't be fanning the flames about how he's playing... I'll take the numbers A-Rod has put up since he got here, with a ring or without one... The bottom line is that the entire team, is mostly made up of guys who have accomplished things away from the Yankees and are certified Hall-Of-Famers, but untill they achieve the ultimate goal, as a team and win a title, they all deserve a little knocking |
See the way this year is going, I cant knock anyone on the team really besides AROD and RJ is hard to knock cause he is getting older and everyone doesnt CALL on him as the best pitcher in baseball anymore... AROD, however is supposed to be the best player in the game and has not looked like it this year.. On the day he reported to spring training I was there watching with my boys, well AROD went into the cages with Jeter and Bernie and was hitting, well Jeter was hitting ok in BP and so was Bernie, but AROD looked like shit.. He looks today just like he did that first day... Its like this, if you are hailed at work about being the best employee, and you start a slump and not hitting numbers when the office is still hitting numbers, are you the best still?? Will you continue to make the same income and get raises and etc.? No, so why is AROD still being hailed as a great player when he is having a subpar season when he is needed the most while guys like Melky, Mussina, Posada, Jeter, BERNIE, etc. have picked up their games to a new level when needed... Where the fuck is AROD??? I am telling you, this year the pressure is on more than ever because of the injuries and he is crumbling... |
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| TJGOnee |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
See the way this year is going, I cant knock anyone on the team really besides AROD and RJ is hard to knock cause he is getting older and everyone doesnt CALL on him as the best pitcher in baseball anymore... AROD, however is supposed to be the best player in the game and has not looked like it this year.. On the day he reported to spring training I was there watching with my boys, well AROD went into the cages with Jeter and Bernie and was hitting, well Jeter was hitting ok in BP and so was Bernie, but AROD looked like shit.. He looks today just like he did that first day... Its like this, if you are hailed at work about being the best employee, and you start a slump and not hitting numbers when the office is still hitting numbers, are you the best still?? Will you continue to make the same income and get raises and etc.? No, so why is AROD still being hailed as a great player when he is having a subpar season when he is needed the most while guys like Melky, Mussina, Posada, Jeter, BERNIE, etc. have picked up their games to a new level when needed... Where the fuck is AROD??? I am telling you, this year the pressure is on more than ever because of the injuries and he is crumbling... |
I hear ya... |
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| WILL309 |
| If the Yankees had won in '04 & '05 and A-Rod put up those crappy numbers in the post season and if he was having the year that he is having now New Yorkers would still boo him. There is a big difference between A-Rod not performing & Jeter or Bernie not performing. They have bleed pinstripes forever! A-Rod was a hired gun who has done crap! How many guaranteed hall of famers do the Yankees have? If Jeter ended his career today he would not make it nor would Shefield, Williams, Matsui, Giambi, Posada or anyone else. Mussina may make it, Johnson will make it but he is not going in as a Yankee! You need to perform everyday in NY for the fans not to boo you! No one cares what you did yesterday they want a win today. Steinbrenner wants wins today! I am a huge A-Rod fan before he was a Yankee & now that he is a Yankee I think he is still the best player in baseball but he is becoming the Knoblauch of '06. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by WILL309
If the Yankees had won in '04 & '05 and A-Rod put up those crappy numbers in the post season and if he was having the year that he is having now New Yorkers would still boo him. There is a big difference between A-Rod not performing & Jeter or Bernie not performing. They have bleed pinstripes forever! A-Rod was a hired gun who has done crap! How many guaranteed hall of famers do the Yankees have? If Jeter ended his career today he would not make it nor would Shefield, Williams, Matsui, Giambi, Posada or anyone else. Mussina may make it, Johnson will make it but he is not going in as a Yankee! You need to perform everyday in NY for the fans not to boo you! No one cares what you did yesterday they want a win today. Steinbrenner wants wins today! I am a huge A-Rod fan before he was a Yankee & now that he is a Yankee I think he is still the best player in baseball but he is becoming the Knoblauch of '06. |
AMEN BROTHER!!! The only thing I might disagree with this post is that Jeter prob would make the HOF.... |
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| Lemonjello |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
On the day he reported to spring training I was there watching with my boys, well AROD went into the cages with Jeter and Bernie and was hitting, well Jeter was hitting ok in BP and so was Bernie, but AROD looked like shit. |
I'm surprised he didn't call you over and ask you for some hitting tips. :rolleyes: |
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| TJGOnee |
the bottom line here is that we're all Yankee fans and want the best players to perform the best...
hopefully A-Rod can go on a tear soon and carry us for a week or two till Matsui comes back and then Sheffy... we can't get more than 4 games behind the Red Sox with Schilling throwing the way he is and Beckett starting to heat up |
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| TJGOnee |
Quote: Originally posted by Lemonjello
I'm surprised he didn't call you over and ask you for some hitting tips. :rolleyes: |
lol :beatu: |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by Lemonjello
I'm surprised he didn't call you over and ask you for some hitting tips. :rolleyes: |
LOL, really though, the way he is playing he should be getting all the advice he can get.. |
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| WILL309 |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
AMEN BROTHER!!! The only thing I might disagree with this post is that Jeter prob would make the HOF.... |
Thank you! I dont think that Jeter would get into the Hall of Fame if he were to retire today. If he gets 3,000 hits then he is a shoe in. But Jeter is a different player from A-Rod! No one ever came out and said that Jeter was the greatest player in baseball but they say that about A-Rod. Jeter is the leader of the Yankees! He sets the tone as the captain. I was at the 14 inning game with the Red Sox where he jumped into the stands to make that catch that sparked the win. He is a great leader not a great player!
New York fans want anyone to produce! Whether you are a star or not New Yorkers want you to perform. But it makes things worse when someone who is paid $25 million a year has worse numbers then the rookies. It makes things worse when he is called the greatest and he cant hit his way out of a bag this year. He BETTER pick things up in the next few weeks, they play the Red Sox 9 more times, including 2 double headers! |
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| ndhalogod |
How can people praise Sheffield, a guy who's feigned multiple injuries because a) he wants a better contract offer with ridiculous guaranteed money and b) he's a fossil, and then badmouth Arod? Arod has switched positions, been flexible in his offensive role, stolen bases, been apologetic and honest about errors and mistakes, and really left his ego at the backdoor in favor of guys like Jeter, Posada, Mussina, Bernie, and Rivera.
He has admittedly been down a bit in the post-season and clutch situation (7th inning on---hitting about .270 when averaged out), but you need more than a few hundred AB's to make any blanket generalizations there. And the fielding mishaps are totally mental errors. Taking infield, he probably makes that throw home successfully 49/50 times.
Who says Giambi is clean now? If anything, I would imagine he took a year off roids then found a superior product + masking agent to reinvigorate his career.
What about the pitching? The Yankees cumulative ERA from 2001-2003 was roughly 3.97. From 2004-2006, it's roughly 4.53. Even an unclutch Arod isn't costing the team a half-run per game, but the pitching's geriatric state sure is.
This has really turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Would you guys really prefer to have the "clutch" Scott Brosius in favor of one of the 25 greatest hitters in MLB history? You get what you pay for---his $25.2m is absurdly overpriced (the Marlins team payroll is about $14.8m, and Miguel Cabrera is probably a better long-term player at this point than Arod). But that's what you wanted. Blame Cashman and Stein, not the player who is doing exactly what everyone expected. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by ndhalogod
How can people praise Sheffield, a guy who's feigned multiple injuries because a) he wants a better contract offer with ridiculous guaranteed money and b) he's a fossil, and then badmouth Arod? Arod has switched positions, been flexible in his offensive role, stolen bases, been apologetic and honest about errors and mistakes, and really left his ego at the backdoor in favor of guys like Jeter, Posada, Mussina, Bernie, and Rivera.
He has admittedly been down a bit in the post-season and clutch situation (7th inning on---hitting about .270 when averaged out), but you need more than a few hundred AB's to make any blanket generalizations there. And the fielding mishaps are totally mental errors. Taking infield, he probably makes that throw home successfully 49/50 times.
Who says Giambi is clean now? If anything, I would imagine he took a year off roids then found a superior product + masking agent to reinvigorate his career.
What about the pitching? The Yankees cumulative ERA from 2001-2003 was roughly 3.97. From 2004-2006, it's roughly 4.53. Even an unclutch Arod isn't costing the team a half-run per game, but the pitching's geriatric state sure is.
This has really turned into a self-fulfilling prophecy. Would you guys really prefer to have the "clutch" Scott Brosius in favor of one of the 25 greatest hitters in MLB history? You get what you pay for---his $25.2m is absurdly overpriced (the Marlins team payroll is about $14.8m, and Miguel Cabrera is probably a better long-term player at this point than Arod). But that's what you wanted. Blame Cashman and Stein, not the player who is doing exactly what everyone expected. |
You are misguided, AROD is not doing whats expected... you watch, there will be trade talk, and he prob wont be traded before the end of the season, but if he keeps going downhill the way he has this season and really bad the last month, he wont finish next season as a Yankee |
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| ndhalogod |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
You are misguided, AROD is not doing whats expected... you watch, there will be trade talk, and he prob wont be traded before the end of the season, but if he keeps going downhill the way he has this season and really bad the last month, he wont finish next season as a Yankee |
As usual, you're missing the entire point. He's doing exactly what most people who know anything about baseball predicted (i.e. putting up HoF numbers but not clicking in NY). How does "trade talk" refute my point? I think that would be something the fickle Boss and NYY faithful would like. But they'd have to throw in about $17m/year to make it worth anyone's while to take him. Good luck with that. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by ndhalogod
As usual, you're missing the entire point. He's doing exactly what most people who know anything about baseball predicted (i.e. putting up HoF numbers but not clicking in NY). How does "trade talk" refute my point? I think that would be something the fickle Boss and NYY faithful would like. But they'd have to throw in about $17m/year to make it worth anyone's while to take him. Good luck with that. |
See for someone who says I dont know much, you apparently dont.. the Rangers are paying 10 mill of Arods Salary, this leaves about 15 left over which the Yankees would willingly pay $5,000,000 which makes Arod a $10,000,000 hall of fame player with another team, not a bad deal for someone else.. i also spoke with someone i know who works in the AP, he said that the Yankees are in fact negotiating with the Phillies and Angels to possible work out a 3-way trade with Abreu going to the Angels, Arod going to the Phillies, and Vlad going to the Yanks, its not a done deal, but it is in fact being talked with all 3 teams.. So it is in fact not a rumor, it is being discussed... |
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| PicksForArtie |
| ok, I am out to get my kids go eat and see a minor league game tonight.. i will have my cell phone close with the Yankees game dialed in, hopefully Arod does something great tonight and I can end this thread... Bottomline is the yanks NEED to win after Arod gave the game up last night... |
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| ndhalogod |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
See for someone who says I dont know much, you apparently dont.. the Rangers are paying 10 mill of Arods Salary, this leaves about 15 left over which the Yankees would willingly pay $5,000,000 which makes Arod a $10,000,000 hall of fame player with another team, not a bad deal for someone else.. i also spoke with someone i know who works in the AP, he said that the Yankees are in fact negotiating with the Phillies and Angels to possible work out a 3-way trade with Abreu going to the Angels, Arod going to the Phillies, and Vlad going to the Yanks, its not a done deal, but it is in fact being talked with all 3 teams.. So it is in fact not a rumor, it is being discussed... |
You're right, it's 9.43 mil per year owed by the Rangers ($67m total). So that does leave about 7-8m per year the Yanks would have to swallow, in my opinion, to make a trade feasible. That deal you just mentioned is simply not possible, though. I'm calling bullshit. Abreu is a guy in the waning days of his career, and has steadily declined the past two seasons in power.
The deal contains a significant talent disparity, and doesn't make ANY sense for the Phillies. They're 13 games behind and trying to dump Gordon and Dellucci for anyone willing to give any value and absorb the costs. Arod's contract lasts 4 more years, and Abreu and Vlad are 2 each. What do the Angels have to be gained from the deal---Vlad for Abreu? They're 2 games out of first...that's simply an irrational decision.
And what random AP writer/employee has any inside information and isn't exploiting it for personal gain? |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by ndhalogod
You're right, it's 9.43 mil per year owed by the Rangers ($67m total). So that does leave about 7-8m per year the Yanks would have to swallow, in my opinion, to make a trade feasible. That deal you just mentioned is simply not possible, though. I'm calling bullshit. Abreu is a guy in the waning days of his career, and has steadily declined the past two seasons in power.
The deal contains a significant talent disparity, and doesn't make ANY sense for the Phillies. They're 13 games behind and trying to dump Gordon and Dellucci for anyone willing to give any value and absorb the costs. Arod's contract lasts 4 more years, and Abreu and Vlad are 2 each. What do the Angels have to be gained from the deal---Vlad for Abreu? They're 2 games out of first...that's simply an irrational decision.
And what random AP writer/employee has any inside information and isn't exploiting it for personal gain? |
From what I understand there are some minor league players involved also for the Angels.. And its not exactly a secret among AP reporters and its not close to a done deal, its just being talked about, so if someone was to report it and it doesnt go, they look like a dumbass.. The Phillies would have a lot to gain, they get a player thats a HOF'r, as long as he is not in NY, with quite a few years left for 10 mill or so, which I believe is the same as Abreu is getting or close.. the Angels gain a little bit as far as a cheaper salary plus they get some youth in some minor leaguers and some in baseball feel Abreu will put up some bigger numbers if he gets away from philly.. i am out to see the minor league game.. is there anything I should send you to make sure i dont spend money incorrectly at the game?/ After all, you ave become my financial advisor, correct?? |
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| WILL309 |
As per Yahoo!.com: New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez laughed off a trade rumor that had him being shipped to the Philadelphia Phillies, according to the New York Post. The supposed blockbuster deal had Rodriguez and Melky Cabrera going to Philly for Bobby Abreu, Pat Burrell, Tom Gordon and David Bell. A-Rod's response: "I would veto it."
I agree with the dealing of A-Rod but I thought the Yankees learned there lesson about trading young player to get older ones. They shouldn't think about trading Melky or Cano. They need to start thinking about the future rather then thinking about now. ESPN said a few weeks back that a lot of the big teams minor league clubs are depleted because of trades. Why can't MLB be like the NFL where you can just cut someone?
In A-Rods defense, Curt Shilling said it best a few months ago on ESPN that he considers A-Rod a freak. Because if you think about the players who have gone 40/40, Canseco- juice head, Bonds- alleged but never proven juice head and A-rod, he is the only one who was never accused of doing steroids. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Plain and Simple:
YANKEES SUCK
They wont win a world series till they get ALOT more pitching.
its that simple! |
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| ndhalogod |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
From what I understand there are some minor league players involved also for the Angels.. And its not exactly a secret among AP reporters and its not close to a done deal, its just being talked about, so if someone was to report it and it doesnt go, they look like a dumbass.. The Phillies would have a lot to gain, they get a player thats a HOF'r, as long as he is not in NY, with quite a few years left for 10 mill or so, which I believe is the same as Abreu is getting or close.. the Angels gain a little bit as far as a cheaper salary plus they get some youth in some minor leaguers and some in baseball feel Abreu will put up some bigger numbers if he gets away from philly.. i am out to see the minor league game.. is there anything I should send you to make sure i dont spend money incorrectly at the game?/ After all, you ave become my financial advisor, correct?? |
The reporters just say "it was in discussions and fell through" as always to save face. That's like saying one of the tv stock analysts can't keep their jobs if he or she makes a bad call. The Angels have an excellent farm system. I can't really see too many Phils or Yanks prospects making the deal click. Maybe the Angels could force the Yankees to take Darin Erstad's bloated, overpaid corpse ($8.75m to be shitty/dead)?
Vlad makes $13.5m and Abreu makes $13.6m, so financially, it could work easily if the Phils had much to offer and were willing to dump serious young talent. The Angels have about 10 young studs, the Phils have Hamels, Gonzalez and Bourn, and the Yanks have Philip Hughes and Eric Duncan. I just don't think this trade can happen. Arod hasn't done enough bad and the Phils are in a dumping mode.
By the way, still no hate for the Yanks' arms? Again, self-fulfilling prophecy. They should've paid $22m for Clemens, given Sheff a 1 year extension and none of this would matter. Oh and not dumped absurd amounts of money on Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Kevin Brown, and Kyle Farnsworth. |
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| ndhalogod |
Quote: Originally posted by WILL309
As per Yahoo!.com: New York Yankees third baseman Alex Rodriguez laughed off a trade rumor that had him being shipped to the Philadelphia Phillies, according to the New York Post. The supposed blockbuster deal had Rodriguez and Melky Cabrera going to Philly for Bobby Abreu, Pat Burrell, Tom Gordon and David Bell. A-Rod's response: "I would veto it."
I agree with the dealing of A-Rod but I thought the Yankees learned there lesson about trading young player to get older ones. They shouldn't think about trading Melky or Cano. They need to start thinking about the future rather then thinking about now. ESPN said a few weeks back that a lot of the big teams minor league clubs are depleted because of trades. Why can't MLB be like the NFL where you can just cut someone?
In A-Rods defense, Curt Shilling said it best a few months ago on ESPN that he considers A-Rod a freak. Because if you think about the players who have gone 40/40, Canseco- juice head, Bonds- alleged but never proven juice head and A-rod, he is the only one who was never accused of doing steroids. |
That's my other point. I think this is deliberately being done by the BOSS to get into Arod's head. Basically, he's saying, stop dicking around and being weak-willed or you're going somewhere that isn't here.
That deal would be wild, though. The Yankes get a good defensive 3b with no bat, a really solid corner OF (which they need), and another really solid all-around OF plus some familiar bullpen help in Gordon. The Phillies are left rebuilding with Ryan Howard, Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Arod, Milky, Rowand, Wife Beater, Cole Hamels and not much else. That IF would just be absurd, though. |
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| WILL309 |
Quote: Originally posted by ndhalogod
The reporters just say "it was in discussions and fell through" as always to save face. That's like saying one of the tv stock analysts can't keep their jobs if he or she makes a bad call. The Angels have an excellent farm system. I can't really see too many Phils or Yanks prospects making the deal click. Maybe the Angels could force the Yankees to take Darin Erstad's bloated, overpaid corpse ($8.75m to be shitty/dead)?
Vlad makes $13.5m and Abreu makes $13.6m, so financially, it could work easily if the Phils had much to offer and were willing to dump serious young talent. The Angels have about 10 young studs, the Phils have Hamels, Gonzalez and Bourn, and the Yanks have Philip Hughes and Eric Duncan. I just don't think this trade can happen. Arod hasn't done enough bad and the Phils are in a dumping mode.
By the way, still no hate for the Yanks' arms? Again, self-fulfilling prophecy. They should've paid $22m for Clemens, given Sheff a 1 year extension and none of this would matter. Oh and not dumped absurd amounts of money on Carl Pavano, Jaret Wright, Kevin Brown, and Kyle Farnsworth. |
I definately agree with the point you made regarding the pitching. The Yankees have old arms. Mussina is good but he is definately not the Mussina that he used to be. Johnson is getting old and losing the bite on his pitches. Wang is too young but is getting better quick. Then who do they have? They have a lot of pitches who cant do shit cause they are always hurt. Thats excluding Rivera, but he is getting old too. Since Cecil Fielder joined the team the Yankees have just been going after hitting then they would worry about pitching. They need to hold on to those prospects instead of investing in old arms. And by the way, from what I remember Clemens doesnt have a great post season record, please correct me if I am wrong. But pitchers like Livan & Orlando Hernandez have great post season records but the Yankees wont go after them. I can totally see the Yankees going after Kerry Wood or Mark Prior cause they never pitch! The Yankees shouldnt even be thinking about trading A-Rod unless its for a young ace, which there really arent that many of. |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
| E-Rod picks up another error, leading to another run, right after losing a routine pop foul in the moonlight!!! |
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| johnnyct8285 |
| i'm not gonna bash A-rod and fuck everyone else that does. |
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| PicksForArtie |
| Well I am not gonna bash Arod, he did get a clutch hit, even though he still played like shit, so i wont badh him, but i will lay off him today |
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| BullYson |
"Struggling" is the word I hear week after week, but I really don't see him struggling at all, unless you compare him to his own almost superhuman seasons that he has put up in the recent past.
A-Rod is on pace to go .282-36-121-114-16 this year, and while that may not match his 2005 season, do you know how many players hit 35 HRs, knocked in 120 runs and scored 120 runs last season?
The answer is two, A-Rod and Albert Pujols
Source-Ray Flowers SI.com |
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| PicksForArtie |
| Dude, please, do you even watch TV?? His own players are even saying he is in a struggle right now.. The reason he is struggling is because he isnt playing with any consitancy, the man gets 3 or 4 hits in one game then goes to shit for a while... I mean EVEN he would say he is struggling right now, that post you just did was idiotic |
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| yambag |
| Even the Moose said he Suck's |
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| BullYson |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
Dude, please, do you even watch TV?? His own players are even saying he is in a struggle right now.. The reason he is struggling is because he isnt playing with any consitancy, the man gets 3 or 4 hits in one game then goes to shit for a while... I mean EVEN he would say he is struggling right now, that post you just did was idiotic |
If you get your sports news from TV, I am sorry for ya!!
Whether it's an untimely error or a big strikeout with runners in scoring position, A-Rod has been the primary target of all things negative. Jeter can go 0-for-5 and strand eight men on base, but if A-Rod has two hits -- but neither wins the game for New York -- he'll bear the brunt of the criticism.
Compare these two stat lines:
Player A: .316 average, 21 home runs, 79 RBIs, 63 runs, .388 on-base percentage
Player B: .284 average, 21 home runs, 71 RBIs, 67 runs, .386 on-base percentage
The first? National League MVP candidate David Wright. The second? Rodriguez.
Don't tell me my post was idiotic when you are clueless and probably not a true Yankee fan anyway!! |
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| BullYson |
Quote: Originally posted by yambag
Even the Moose said he Suck's |
Actually Moose said
"Leave this guy alone for a while, let us see if we can get him to play," Mussina said. "The way he's being treated right now, it's not going to make it any better. It's making it worse -- and we can't win without him."
Know your facts, you Headline Readers |
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| PicksForArtie |
| Dude, you are a COMPLETE moron... You are right, Moose did say that.. that makes it sound like Arod is playing great, right? Are you reading correctly, I mean you did type that.. I get my feeling about Arod watching him in person and on TV, you just repeated what I said with a exact quote, yet you disagree... Maybe you need to take deeper breaths or read what you write before you hit (Submit Reply) |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by BullYson
If you get your sports news from TV, I am sorry for ya!!
Whether it's an untimely error or a big strikeout with runners in scoring position, A-Rod has been the primary target of all things negative. Jeter can go 0-for-5 and strand eight men on base, but if A-Rod has two hits -- but neither wins the game for New York -- he'll bear the brunt of the criticism.
Compare these two stat lines:
Player A: .316 average, 21 home runs, 79 RBIs, 63 runs, .388 on-base percentage
Player B: .284 average, 21 home runs, 71 RBIs, 67 runs, .386 on-base percentage
The first? National League MVP candidate David Wright. The second? Rodriguez.
Don't tell me my post was idiotic when you are clueless and probably not a true Yankee fan anyway!! |
Did you really say on here that Arod is a MVP candidate?? You just fell off the moron meter to a new level.. how can you even compare Jeter to Arod, you know what.. Come back with whatever you want, I wont even put a thought into anything you post, you are off the meter.. I cant even begin to imagin how you survive
Oh yeah, one more thing... I do get a bunch of my sports news from TV radio and Newspapers, maybe I dont have the inside sources you do MORON! |
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| BullYson |
I never said he wasn't struggling. 18 errors is unacceptable, Period.
You should take a deep breath and read what you write, because you are clueless! |
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| BullYson |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
Did you really say on here that Arod is a MVP candidate?? You just fell off the moron meter to a new level.. how can you even compare Jeter to Arod, you know what.. Come back with whatever you want, I wont even put a thought into anything you post, you are off the meter.. I cant even begin to imagin how you survive
Oh yeah, one more thing... I do get a bunch of my sports news from TV radio and Newspapers, maybe I dont have the inside sources you do MORON! |
Like I said, take a deep breath and read... The quote says D. Wright is MVP candidate, not A Rod.......despite similar numbers |
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| Lemonjello |
Quote: Originally posted by ndhalogod
Abreu is a guy in the waning days of his career, and has steadily declined the past two seasons in power.
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Waning days of his career?!? Yes, his HR numbers are down, but he's only *32* and is on pace for 110 RBI this year, which would tie his career high. |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
Quote: Originally posted by BullYson
Actually Moose said
"Leave this guy alone for a while, let us see if we can get him to play," Mussina said. "The way he's being treated right now, it's not going to make it any better. It's making it worse -- and we can't win without him."
Know your facts, you Headline Readers |
Why don't you quote EVERYTHING that Moose said: :rolleye2:
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Blame Thrown At A-Rod
Mussina Doesn't Hold Back After Losing Grip In Sixth
July 21, 2006
By DOM AMORE, Courant Staff Writer
TORONTO -- Alex Rodriguez can't escape these klieg lights. They bear down on him relentlessly.
Following a game decided five innings after his throwing error, he was in sharp focus.
"I know he's played better and I know he's disappointed in the way he's playing," said pitcher Mike Mussina, who dominated the first five innings Thursday night but came unraveled after Rodriguez's throwing error in the sixth. "It's just not him right now, and we need him to be the player he is."
In a clubhouse where one player rarely talks candidly about another, Mussina stepped out. Unlike Chien-Ming Wang, who pitched around three Rodriguez errors to win Monday night, Mussina did not. The Blue Jays took the lead with four runs in the sixth, changing the tenor of a game that was going the Yankees' way.
Though the Yankees tied it in the eighth, Vernon Wells' home run off Mariano Rivera in the 11th inning lifted the Blue Jays to a 5-4 victory at Rogers Centre.
"The pitch was inside, where I wanted it to be," said Rivera, who had not given up a home run since Aug. 16, a span covering 288 batters. "You have to give the credit to Vernon Wells."
The Yankees (55-38), who have lost two in a row after a five-game winning streak to start the second half, are 21/2 games behind the division-leading Red Sox and trail the White Sox by three in the wild card standings.
But Rodriguez, who has 1,999 hits and 449 home runs, is in a terrible way right now. He has 17 errors, five more than he made all last season. He was asked by YES Network to respond to all the talk on radio and TV shows this week that it may be time for him to leave New York.
"Nothing could be further from the truth," Rodriguez said. "That's a ridiculous thought. ... It's not fun to go through something like this. You don't want to hurt your teammates. But I'm working hard at it. I feel bad for Moose. He was pitching a great game."
The Yankees worked hard to push single runs across in the third, fourth and fifth innings against Jays ace Roy Halladay, one of the top pitchers in baseball. Miguel Cairo singled, stole second and scored on Johnny Damon's double in the third. Rodriguez doubled in the fourth and scored on a groundout. And Melky Cabrera beat out an infield hit in the fifth, stole second, went to third on an error and scored on a fly ball.
Mussina was working on a gem, striking out six through five innings and allowing only two hits. But he hung a slider and leadoff hitter Aaron Hill banged it into the left field corner for a double. Hill moved up on a grounder, then Reed Johnson hit a chopper to Rodriguez, who has been getting under his sidearm throws all week. Rather than throw to first for an easy out, he threw home at a difficult angle. His throw sailed high and wide for an error, and Johnson ended up on second.
"I was expecting him to throw to first," Mussina said. "Then I saw he was throwing home, and a good throw would have had him by 20 feet."
Mussina said he would have approached the rest of the inning differently if Rodriguez threw to first. The bases would have been empty with two outs. Instead, there was a runner at second and one out. Frank Catalanotto singled to right to drive in Johnson, then Wells singled to left and Troy Glaus, who had been 0-for-8 with six strikeouts against Mussina this season, hit a high curveball into the left field corner to bring in the tying and go-ahead runs.
"The whole inning changes, I wouldn't have pitched guys the same way," Mussina said. "I had to make pitches to get out of it and I felt I did, but Catalanotto hits a bloop single and Wells hit a ground ball. The hit by Glaus and the first hit by Hill were the two balls they hit hard."
Others were not so willing to criticize Rodriguez.
"You have to overcome those things to be successful," manager Joe Torre said. "If anything, it should make you more determined. I didn't sense any letdown. When the ball was hit to him, I said `he hit it to the right guy,' because Alex was the only guy who could throw home. He didn't hesitate. If he threw to first, that would have been fine, too."
Said Rivera, "[Errors are] part of the game. You just have to support your teammates and move on."
The Yankees did, even after Halladay, now smelling a win, retired five in a row. Manager John Gibbons took him out with two out and nobody on in the eighth to let B.J. Ryan, his $47 million closer, face Jason Giambi in a lefty matchup. Giambi took a rare inside-out swing and hit a grounder through the vacated left side of the infield, then Rodriguez worked a walk and Jorge Posada, breaking his bat, blooped a single to left to tie the game at 4. It was Ryan's third blown save in 27 chances.
Ryan, Justin Speier and Brian Tallet held the Yankees down through the 11th. Scott Proctor replaced Mussina in the eighth and pitched two scoreless innings, and Rivera pitched a 1-2-3 10th. Catalanotto started the 11th with a single but was thrown out stealing. Wells hammered the next pitch out of the park, his fourth hit of the game. |
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| ndhalogod |
Quote: Originally posted by Lemonjello
Waning days of his career?!? Yes, his HR numbers are down, but he's only *32* and is on pace for 110 RBI this year, which would tie his career high. |
A guy who hits 16 dongs, .285, and 100 RBI in that lineup and stadium is fairly fungible, and absurdly overpriced for $13.6m/yr. He does have some great value because he has a very high OBP and runs a good bit, but we'll see how long that lasts.
I was also referencing him relative to Arod and Vlad (not compared to Jeff Bagwell or Russ Ortiz), who are guys that seem to be maintaining production as Abreu falls off. Would you trade him straight up for either of those two? That was my point. |
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| PicksForArtie |
| Just to let everyone know I am not "bashing" Arod, but the man is 1 for his last 8 with 6 k's 1 error and 1 HR, and that doest include his game Thurs, which was another great performance... You guy still love him?? dickwads... |
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Well The Yanks snapped the losing streak, and Big WANG gets his 11th win.
A Rod struck out 4 (FOUR) times. Oh shit-------
The winning run was a bases loader Jeter Walk. We'll take it!!
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Struggling Alex Rodriguez was the Yankees' designated hitter Saturday at Toronto after committing five errors in five games -- and his woes shifted to the plate. He went 0-for-4 with four strikeouts, including one with the bases loaded in the sixth. (Clutch hitting today for Arod, 6th inning 1st and 3rd 1 out he k's, then the 7th inning he k'd with bases loaded and 2 outs..)
(Updated 07/22/2006).
LAST 7 GAMES
Date Opp AB R H HR RBI BB SB
07/15 CHW 5 1 1 0 1 0 0
07/16 CHW 4 1 2 1 2 0 0
07/17 SEA 4 0 0 0 0 0 0
07/18 SEA 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
07/19 SEA 4 1 2 0 0 0 0
07/20 TOR 4 1 1 0 0 1 0
07/21 TOR 4 1 1 1 3 0 0
Today 0-4
.253 last 8 games with a ton oh k's, and I know the series before the White Sox he was 0 for his last 7 with 5 k's
Here's another quote from Torre, (got it on ESPN)
"He's just struggling right now," manager Joe Torre said. "He's striking out. He's swinging and missing at some pitches that he hits." (funny people in here says he isnt struggling, yet Torre said he is....)
A-Rod has been fighting himself at the plate and in the field for much of the season, committing 18 errors already, the most of any third baseman in the Majors. Rodriguez's latest miscue -- another errant throw -- came Friday night against the Blue Jays.
In fact, Rodriguez's error total is topped by only two players in the Majors: Milwaukee's Rickie Weeks (22) and Los Angeles' Rafael Furcal (19).
A-Rod's sixth-inning error on Thursday helped open the door for a four-run inning by Toronto, giving the Blue Jays a 4-3 lead. He now has five errors in the past five days, as his throwing mechanics continue to be out of whack. (MLB.COM)
"If I knew the right way to give him a kick in the [rear end], I would," Mussina said. "It's hard to tell which is the best way to do it. He has to be who he is for us to be successful, and he's not right now. I don't know how to get him back there. "
Mussina admits that he was "a little upset" about the error immediately following the game, and he still believes that, had Rodriguez thrown to first, making it a 3-1 game with two outs and no one on base, the game would have played out differently.
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| ArtieRules100 |
| Gay-Rod sucks once again. 4 K's. $25 mill a year. That's a shame. |
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| MillerTime8606 |
| A-rods a great player and this is just the evil empire fans bashing him because, they aren't happy unless they can boo someone on their team. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by MillerTime8606
A-rods a great player and this is just the evil empire fans bashing him because, they aren't happy unless they can boo someone on their team. |
this is a typical quote of a fool who doesnt know what he is talking about... Yankees buy World Series, right?? Well thats usually next out of your mouth... This didnt really deserve a comeback, cause you obviously dont have anything intelligent or with merit to say, but i will give you a little test to do on your own...
You obviously are a SOX fan, IE: go see my other thread about the definition, but anyway..
Look up how many players on the Yankees roster came up through the minors and then go check the Red Sox/White Sox roster, and tell me how many of their players were free agents/trades... This is a subject I am tired of.. Yankees actually get a good minor league system and do pay, TO KEEP THEIR OWN DUMBASS!!!
Arod does suck, prove me otherwise.. (oops, you have 2 things to do know) |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
this is a typical quote of a fool who doesnt know what he is talking about... Yankees buy World Series, right?? Well thats usually next out of your mouth... This didnt really deserve a comeback, cause you obviously dont have anything intelligent or with merit to say, but i will give you a little test to do on your own...
You obviously are a SOX fan, IE: go see my other thread about the definition, but anyway..
Look up how many players on the Yankees roster came up through the minors and then go check the Red Sox/White Sox roster, and tell me how many of their players were free agents/trades... This is a subject I am tired of.. Yankees actually get a good minor league system and do pay, TO KEEP THEIR OWN DUMBASS!!!
Arod does suck, prove me otherwise.. (oops, you have 2 things to do know) |
Let's see the list. Back yourself up with facts.
The ONLY reason these people are in the lineup is due to injury, or else you'd never have heard of a Guile, or anyone one of those other scrubs they have in the lineup. Torre, Cashman, and King George are LUCKY these people are producing, of course it makes them BRILLIANT for having them in the lineup. :rolleye2:
If there was no injuries, all those players would be trade bait for the next superstar they could pluck from another team.
Again, let's see the list. |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
I'll even help you out a bit:
From the Red Sox minor league system currently on the active roster:
Manny Delcarmen
Kason Gabbard
Craig Hansen
Jon Lester (who was a more touted prospect than Papelbon)
Jonathan Papelbon
Curt Schilling (2nd round pick of the 1986 draft)
Kevin Youkilis
Trot Nixon
Al Nipper (pitching coach) :D
On the 40 man roster but currently not active (but have appeared with the team at some point this season):
Abe Alvarez
Lenny DiNardo (2003 Rule 5 draft pick)
David Pauley (minor league trade, never made pro debut until going through Sox farm system)
Brandon Moss
David Murphy
Adam Stern (2005 Rule 5 draft pick) |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllMedia
I'll even help you out a bit:
From the Red Sox minor league system currently on the active roster:
Manny Delcarmen
Kason Gabbard
Craig Hansen
Jon Lester (who was a more touted prospect than Papelbon)
Jonathan Papelbon
Curt Schilling (2nd round pick of the 1986 draft)
Kevin Youkilis
Trot Nixon
Al Nipper (pitching coach) :D
On the 40 man roster but currently not active (but have appeared with the team at some point this season):
Abe Alvarez
Lenny DiNardo (2003 Rule 5 draft pick)
David Pauley (minor league trade, never made pro debut until going through Sox farm system)
Brandon Moss
David Murphy
Adam Stern (2005 Rule 5 draft pick) |
Ok you got a point, but how many players do they depend on that came up from the minors???
And you are counting Curt Schilling, who they bought back, he barely played with them until this second go around...
You are naming all shit players, except for Paplebon, and Schilling dont count, his ass really hasnt played for them until now... The core of the Yankees is made up of more homegrown players.. Dont be difficult... Who is a stud for the Red Sox that wasnt bought?? Yankees STUDS are Jeter, Posada, Cano, Cabrera, Rivera, Wang.. Come on, name me the Red Sox Studs that are true life Red Sox? Paplebon, Varitek........ come on help me here.. |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
Lester is a shit player? (5-0, going for #6 today)
Hansen is a shit player? He's been solid, if not almost flawless, from the pen.
Youkilis is a shit player?
Shall I go on? |
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Im not about to get on any Yankee fans here being a Redosx fan in NY I have enough to deal with BUT one thing I can honestly say is I have a feeling that A-Rod just cant seem to win with no matter what team he's on. It is very surprising how shaky he has been playing and it makes me wonder if it is really that difficult to play in NY with all the press. I mean damn just how relaxed is every other market out there.
I think the Tigers are for real this year and it worries me and it should worry Yankee fans too cause only one team is coming out of the AL east this year for the playoffs. |
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| MillerTime8606 |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
this is a typical quote of a fool who doesnt know what he is talking about... Yankees buy World Series, right?? Well thats usually next out of your mouth... This didnt really deserve a comeback, cause you obviously dont have anything intelligent or with merit to say, but i will give you a little test to do on your own...
You obviously are a SOX fan, IE: go see my other thread about the definition, but anyway..
Look up how many players on the Yankees roster came up through the minors and then go check the Red Sox/White Sox roster, and tell me how many of their players were free agents/trades... This is a subject I am tired of.. Yankees actually get a good minor league system and do pay, TO KEEP THEIR OWN DUMBASS!!!
Arod does suck, prove me otherwise.. (oops, you have 2 things to do know) |
Um lets look at this first off Tigers fan been one for life. Before I hear about how I"m a bandwagon fan every year for the past 10 years I've been to 20+ games. Trust me that's alot of losing seasons. :)
To prove A-rod doens't suck we just have to look at his career. His numbers have constantly been great and he's a lock for the hall of fame. The fans riding his ass every game isn't going to help him.
With the Yankees it doesn't matter he'll start hitting and get a 10 game streak going and Jeter will slump and you guys will all be bashing Jeter and booing him non-stop at Yankee stadium while cheering for A-Rod and pulling his jearsy out of your closets. You guys aren't happy unless you can bitch. |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by MillerTime8606
Um lets look at this first off Tigers fan been one for life. Before I hear about how I"m a bandwagon fan every year for the past 10 years I've been to 20+ games. Trust me that's alot of losing seasons. :)
To prove A-rod doens't suck we just have to look at his career. His numbers have constantly been great and he's a lock for the hall of fame. The fans riding his ass every game isn't going to help him.
With the Yankees it doesn't matter he'll start hitting and get a 10 game streak going and Jeter will slump and you guys will all be bashing Jeter and booing him non-stop at Yankee stadium while cheering for A-Rod and pulling his jearsy out of your closets. You guys aren't happy unless you can bitch. |
You like most Arod supporters are missing the point... Arod is showing he is crumbling under the NY pressure, look at his stats the last year from the playoffs to now... Stop talking about the glory days, cause then I will bring up Donny baseballs 145 Rbis |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllMedia
Lester is a shit player? (5-0, going for #6 today)
Hansen is a shit player? He's been solid, if not almost flawless, from the pen.
Youkilis is a shit player?
Shall I go on? |
Your posts are idiotic, do you consider those players you just named STUDS along the like of the Yankee studs I named?? If so, then you are proof of why there is or was no such thing as a curse, the Red Sox just sucked for 86 years... |
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| BullYson |
I have an A-Rod theory. With the loss of Godzilla, Sheff and Cano, the opposing pitchers now have three less great bats to pitch to. Usually teams would be forced to pitch to A-Rod, He had Sheff and Matsui right next to him in the line-up. Pitchers were forced to give him some pitches.
Jeter is having an unbelievable year, but when does he not!! Pitch him anywhere and he'll put the ball in play.
Giambino is tearing it up as well despite his .258 avg he is still producing, 28HR-78RBIs. Now with Giambi, teams play that crazy shift, and he does hit to right field most of the time. If you recall when Giambi came back from the roids deal, the NY crowd boo'd him bad. He embraced it and became the comeback player of the year.
Melky Way Cabrera is a pure hitter. He was hitting well over .400 in the Minor Leagues. He is producing for the Yanks, but the scouting reports aren't fully in on that guy yet. The Teams will learn to shut him down. He's a young guy with a bright future!
The point, A-Rod is being shut down by good scouting, good pitching and a lot of pressure from the NY fans and Media. He is arguably one of the best players right now, but I think he is truly losing his cool. This will be a true test of his character for him to overcome this mess. The errors are mental, for him to put up the numbers he has throughout his career, he has to be mantally strong. No?
All the greats go into slumps at times, this is baseball where our idea of being good means you get a hit 3 out of 10 tries.
Anyway, let's see where this takes us. Trade deadline is a week away but I will predict that A-Rod is playing for the Yanks all year........no trade will go down!
Get some damn pitching!!! |
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| PicksForArtie |
Quote: Originally posted by BullYson
I have an A-Rod theory. With the loss of Godzilla, Sheff and Cano, the opposing pitchers now have three less great bats to pitch to. Usually teams would be forced to pitch to A-Rod, He had Sheff and Matsui right next to him in the line-up. Pitchers were forced to give him some pitches.
Jeter is having an unbelievable year, but when does he not!! Pitch him anywhere and he'll put the ball in play.
Giambino is tearing it up as well despite his .258 avg he is still producing, 28HR-78RBIs. Now with Giambi, teams play that crazy shift, and he does hit to right field most of the time. If you recall when Giambi came back from the roids deal, the NY crowd boo'd him bad. He embraced it and became the comeback player of the year.
Melky Way Cabrera is a pure hitter. He was hitting well over .400 in the Minor Leagues. He is producing for the Yanks, but the scouting reports aren't fully in on that guy yet. The Teams will learn to shut him down. He's a young guy with a bright future!
The point, A-Rod is being shut down by good scouting, good pitching and a lot of pressure from the NY fans and Media. He is arguably one of the best players right now, but I think he is truly losing his cool. This will be a true test of his character for him to overcome this mess. The errors are mental, for him to put up the numbers he has throughout his career, he has to be mantally strong. No?
All the greats go into slumps at times, this is baseball where our idea of being good means you get a hit 3 out of 10 tries.
Anyway, let's see where this takes us. Trade deadline is a week away but I will predict that A-Rod is playing for the Yanks all year........no trade will go down!
Get some damn pitching!!! |
I predict he will stay a Yankee this year also.. I also feel that if he can get his head out of his ass, then he can get past all this shit.. Scouts arent telling hitters that he will make bad throws and boot gorundballs.. This guy is striking out where a fly ball out would score a run.. He is in a major mess right now, can he get himself out?? Thats going to show whether he is the best player in baseball.. I agree, the Yankees need to go get pitching and Christ almighty stop picking people up off the waiver wire, these people are on waivers for a reason! |
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| Well, cant really bash him, he had a good night.... So i will leave him alone for another day, wasnt a clutch game (even though he did hit a double with Jeter on 2nd-they were winning already) but he had a good game.. So I say good job Arod, keep it going |
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Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
Ok you got a point, but how many players do they depend on that came up from the minors???
And you are counting Curt Schilling, who they bought back, he barely played with them until this second go around...
You are naming all shit players, except for Paplebon, and Schilling dont count, his ass really hasnt played for them until now... The core of the Yankees is made up of more homegrown players.. Dont be difficult... Who is a stud for the Red Sox that wasnt bought?? Yankees STUDS are Jeter, Posada, Cano, Cabrera, Rivera, Wang.. Come on, name me the Red Sox Studs that are true life Red Sox? Paplebon, Varitek........ come on help me here.. |
I am a fan of neither team but you are way off here. Posada @ .288? A stud? Cabrera @ .276 a stud? Why? 'Cause he's a Yankee? Please.
Trot is a .300 hitter and a solid player, Lester is unbeaten, Hansen has been very good.
Take Youk and/or Trot, they both have better stats than Posada and/or Cabrera so it would help your case if you looked up some stats before making your statements. |
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Quote: Originally posted by johnni37
I am a fan of neither team but you are way off here. Posada @ .288? A stud? Cabrera @ .276 a stud? Why? 'Cause he's a Yankee? Please.
Trot is a .300 hitter and a solid player, Lester is unbeaten, Hansen has been very good.
Take Youk and/or Trot, they both have better stats than Posada and/or Cabrera so it would help your case if you looked up some stats before making your statements. |
You dumbass!!! Posada has been a stud, and he is having a great year, with clutch hits and compared to other catchers, he is kicking ass, not to mention how he has handled a shitty pitching staff... Cabrera is a stud, he was a stud in the minors and is kicking ass in a difficult situation.. next time you want to compare outfielders to other outfielders, dont bring up a catcher! |
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Quote: Originally posted by johnni37
I am a fan of neither team but you are way off here. Posada @ .288? A stud? Cabrera @ .276 a stud? Why? 'Cause he's a Yankee? Please.
Trot is a .300 hitter and a solid player, Lester is unbeaten, Hansen has been very good.
Take Youk and/or Trot, they both have better stats than Posada and/or Cabrera so it would help your case if you looked up some stats before making your statements. |
Hey moron, here are some stats for you!
BA RBI HR SLG
Posada .288 51 12 .476
Youkilis .292 46 11 .455
Nixon .299 44 6 .428
Posada's stats are right there with them, in less at bats, as a catcher.. Go learn something, then come back... or just stay away dumbass |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
Well, cant really bash him, he had a good night.... So i will leave him alone for another day, wasnt a clutch game (even though he did hit a double with Jeter on 2nd-they were winning already) but he had a good game.. So I say good job Arod, keep it going |
2-5. Horrible. Why not 3-5. A-rod sucks. ;) |
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Quote: Originally posted by Pussah2
2-5. Horrible. Why not 3-5. A-rod sucks. ;) |
Do you read?? I am not giving him shit, but he needs to be a little more consitent than a good game once a week... I am hoping he can continure |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by PicksForArtie
Do you read?? I am not giving him shit, but he needs to be a little more consitent than a good game once a week... I am hoping he can continure |
did you see the smiley face after. ;) |
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