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| BigTitsMan |
Turn on the news channels. Most have not even mentioned the war in Iraq in a week. So, what this means is that Israeli lives, the same people for whom the war in Iraq is being fought, are worth more than the Americans. The Israeli government tells the US to toss its salad and America asks: "Would you like jelly or syrup?"
Damn the US corporate media for its spineless cowardice. This act of treason, just one of many, will never be forgotten.
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| Crazytree |
It's true.
People care more about a missing Israeli soldier than the 20 US troops that have died this month in Iraq.
People don't understand that Israel's actions have the net effect of severely undermining our stabilization efforts in Iraq as well. |
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| BigTitsMan |
| I sent Bill O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Anderson Cooper, Glenn Beck, Joe Scarborough, and a few others a printable application for Israeli citizenship. Since they bend over for that government so willingly, they might as well live there. |
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| Teddy Duchamp |
| I bet w strokes his schlong to the israeli flag. |
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| walt zink |
Quote: Originally posted by BigTitsMan
I sent Bill O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Anderson Cooper, Glenn Beck, Joe Scarborough, and a few others a printable application for Israeli citizenship. Since they bend over for that government so willingly, they might as well live there. |
that's fucking brilliant....
personally, this all stems from the UN passing off a european problem onto another area of the world, and the problem has just gotten significantly worse, and i can't see how people can blondly follow israel. if i were a palestinian in 1948, and i was shoved out of my home, i'd be a pretty pissed off individual as well. i don't condone what palestine does, for instance, and i fault them just as much for the escalation of problems in that region, but their government has a valid beef with israel.
also, correct me if wrong, and please back up with proof (about to nap so no time to look), but hasn't israel been the primary aggressor with every or most of these conflicts? that certainly doesn't endear me to their cause, either. |
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| thoroldjames |
Quote: Originally posted by BigTitsMan
Turn on the news channels. Most have not even mentioned the war in Iraq in a week. ] |
says more about what the media and gov't think of your attention span and intellect than anything else
(by you i mean everyone :) )
these are the same people that made front page news of a horse with a broken leg for fucksakes. |
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| thoroldjames |
Quote: Originally posted by walt zink
also, correct me if wrong, and please back up with proof (about to nap so no time to look), but hasn't israel been the primary aggressor with every or most of these conflicts? that certainly doesn't endear me to their cause, either. |
seems 50/50 ish to me, no winner in this clusterfuck
http://www.historyguy.com/arab_israeli_wars.html
here ya go you lazy prick, enjoy your nap :)
my 1st cut&paste, very proud of myself right now :D |
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| sir1us |
| yea this shit is truely fucked up, make Americans forget Americans so they can further that puppet government in iraq while w and his corporate dingleberries soak it in. |
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| Sieve Boy |
Quote: Originally posted by walt zink
also, correct me if wrong, and please back up with proof (about to nap so no time to look), but hasn't israel been the primary aggressor with every or most of these conflicts? that certainly doesn't endear me to their cause, either. |
They've defended theirselves more than they've taken to the offensive directly, that being said when they do take to the offensive or counter their attackers move... I'd say they are the most overwhelmingly agressive military force in the world. They just plain don't hold back until their enemy is definatively defeated, I have no doubts that Lebanon is going to be crushed and anyone in that country who opposes the Israeli forces (Hizbollah) will be thoroughly routed. |
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| Teddy Duchamp |
Quote: Originally posted by Sieve Boy
They've defended theirselves more than they've taken to the offensive directly, that being said when they do take to the offensive or counter their attackers move... I'd say they are the most overwhelmingly agressive military force in the world. They just plain don't hold back until their enemy is definatively defeated, I have no doubts that Lebanon is going to be crushed and anyone in that country who opposes the Israeli forces (Hizbollah) will be thoroughly routed. |
yeah, thats why hezbollah drove israel out 6 years ago. thats why israel has never been able to weed out all the palestinian resistance. what kind of fuckin dream world are you living in? "they dont hold back til their enemy is defeated"??????? News to sieve boy, lots of people who oppose israel have not been "crushed" and wont be "crushed" by this latest tirade. Israel cant get rid of them all..it's never going to happen. this war is hopeless for them. if this is how they want it, this is the way it'll always be. |
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| jigzaw |
| you can be sure if the Arabs had the force that Israel does and Israel was po-dunk, the Arabs would have slaughtered every last Jew. |
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| thoroldjames |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
you can be sure if the Arabs had the force that Israel does and Israel was po-dunk, the Arabs would have slaughtered every last Jew. |
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| Abba |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
you can be sure if the Arabs had the force that Israel does and Israel was po-dunk, the Arabs would have slaughtered every last Jew. |
Yeah? What makes you so sure of that, mr. expert historian? Are you a world renowned sociologist with years of experience in the Arab world? No? Then please SHUT THE FUCK UP child about things you don't even remotlely know.
Did it ever occur to you that maybe Israel's to blame for the hatred leveled against it? Nah, probably not. Now go be a good little sheeple and bend over for AIPAC. |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by jigzaw
you can be sure if the Arabs had the force that Israel does and Israel was po-dunk, the Arabs would have slaughtered every last Jew. |
even the crazies in Iran have not demanded that any Jews be killed.
they would simply round the Jews up and throw them out of the country.
you know... exactly like the Israelis did to millions of Palestinians in 1948.
Quote: Originally posted by Sieve Boy
They've defended theirselves more than they've taken to the offensive directly, that being said when they do take to the offensive or counter their attackers move... I'd say they are the most overwhelmingly agressive military force in the world. They just plain don't hold back until their enemy is definatively defeated, I have no doubts that Lebanon is going to be crushed and anyone in that country who opposes the Israeli forces (Hizbollah) will be thoroughly routed. |
I disagree a bit. the IDF has claimed [quite unbelievably] that they have destroyed half of Hizbollah's warfighting capacity.
this fact stands in stark contradiction to the reality, which is that Hizbollah is successfully engaging IDF forces and continues to rain down scores of rockets on Israel daily.
the sad truth is that a modern military is not particularly effective against an illusory opponent like Hizbollah. they lack a rigid command-and-control organization like a normal army. the only way to defeat them is to wipe out the entire population that they are part of. this is what the British did in Malaya, what Germany did in the occupied countries, and what we did in the Phillipines. unfortunately, in the modern world... people are a lot less likely to support this type of scorched earth warfare. |
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| Sieve Boy |
Quote: Originally posted by Crazytree
the sad truth is that a modern military is not particularly effective against an illusory opponent like Hizbollah. they lack a rigid command-and-control organization like a normal army. the only way to defeat them is to wipe out the entire population that they are part of. this is what the British did in Malaya, what Germany did in the occupied countries, and what we did in the Phillipines. unfortunately, in the modern world... people are a lot less likely to support this type of scorched earth warfare. |
Rip on me if you must, but the point I was trying to make is based on Israeli conflicts in the past such as those in the 60's & 70's. Crazytree is correct, there is no solid, proven way to be able to defeat an enemy such as this. In an outright military conflict, a military force possessed by such as Israel or America could defeat any force of comparison. Some coward that drives around in Baghdad, gets out of his car, pops off a mortar round, and gets back in his car to scurry away... that is a threat that no one can easily counter with any military force to date.
Teddy, that is exactly the kind of thing that Palestinian militants and other terrorist groups such as HAMAS, Hizbollah, etc are all doing as well as the Iraqi insurgency. That being said, like I've said in the past, Israel has an extremely aggressive military. I don't doubt that they'll avoid LOAC a bit to meet their military and defense goals, twisting LOAC a bit is the only way to begin to defeat an enemy such as this... |
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