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Just a friendly reminder of where the king chickenhawk's true loyalties lie.....
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The Greed Factor
Sanctions against rogue regimes would have been abandoned if Dick Cheney had had his way.
By David J. Sirota and Jonathan Baskin
Web Exclusive: 09.15.04
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In 1992, the Republican Party launched a vicious assault against Bill Clinton for traveling overseas and speaking out against his country’s foreign policy during the Vietnam War. It was the beginning of a strategy to demean the national-security credentials of the Democratic Party. Now, twelve years later, Vice President Dick Cheney has updated the tactic, hammering those who question George W. Bush’s prosecution of the war on terror and impugning John Kerry’s commitment to national security. His rhetoric has been so vitriolic, he actually suggested last week that a Kerry presidency would mean "we will get hit again" by terrorists.
Beyond blatantly mischaracterizing Democrats’ positions on defense, these shameless attacks serve to distract from the vice president’s own proclivity for undermining American foreign policy. The record shows that over the last decade, Cheney was willing first to do business with countries on the U.S. government’s terror list, then to travel abroad and condemn U.S. counter-terrorism policy when it got in his way. In the process, Cheney proved repeatedly he could be trusted to put Halliburton’s bottom line ahead of his country’s national security.
As Secretary of Defense under George H.W. Bush, Cheney helped lead a multinational coalition against Iraq and was one of the architects of a post-war economic embargo designed to choke off funds to the country. He insisted the world should “maintain sanctions, at least of some kind,” so Saddam Hussein could not “rebuild the military force he’s used against his neighbors.”
But less than six years later, as a private businessman, Cheney apparently had more important interests than preventing Hussein from rebuilding his army. While he claimed during the 2000 campaign that, as CEO of Halliburton, he had “imposed a ‘firm policy’ against trading with Iraq,” confidential UN records show that, from the first half of 1997 to the summer of 2000, Halliburton held stakes in two firms that sold more than $73 million in oil production equipment and spare parts to Iraq while Cheney was in charge. Halliburton acquired its interest in both firms while Cheney was at the helm, and continued doing business through them until just months before Cheney was named George W. Bush’s running mate.
Perhaps even more troubling, at the same time Cheney was doing business with Iraq, he launched a public broadside against sanctions laws designed to cut off funds to regimes like Iran, which the State Department listed as a state sponsor of terrorism. In 1998, Cheney traveled to Kuala Lumpur to attack his own country's terrorism policies for being too strict. Under the headline, “Former US Defence Secretary Says Iran-Libya Sanctions Act ‘Wrong,’” the Malaysian News Agency reported that Cheney “hit out at his government" and said sanctions on terrorist countries were "ineffective, did not provide the desired results and [were] a bad policy.”
Two years later, Cheney traveled to another country to demand America weaken restrictions on doing business with Iran’s petroleum industry, despite Clinton administration warnings that Iranian oil revenues could be used to fund terrorism. “We're kept out of [Iran] primarily by our own government, which has made a decision that U.S. firms should not be allowed to invest significantly in Iran,” he told an oil conference in Canada. “I think that's a mistake.”
Now new reports suggest Cheney’s desire to do business with Iran may have amounted to more than words. Details of Halliburton’s activities in Iran have been investigated by the Treasury Department and were recently forwarded to the U.S. attorney in Houston. Such an action is taken only after Treasury finds evidence of ‘serious and willful violations’ of sanctions laws. Halliburton already admits one of its subsidiaries “performs between $30 [million] and $40 million annually in oilfield service work in Iran.”
Why is this record important in the current presidential debate? Because as Cheney barnstorms around the country touting the Bush administration’s record, his years at Halliburton indicate he is willing to put other priorities before America’s national security. Even as Iran built ties to terrorists and worked to develop a nuclear weapon, Cheney insisted corporations must do “business in countries that may have policies that the U.S. does not like.” His reasoning? “The good Lord didn't see fit to put oil and gas only where there are democratic regimes friendly to the United States.”
Such comments contrast sharply with the Republicans’ message at their national convention. Far from embodying lofty ideals of “freedom” and “democracy,” Cheney’s record depicts a man governed by greed. As the election nears, that poses an important question to all Americans: Are we really comfortable with this person -- and this ideology -- shaping U.S. policy in an age of global terror?
David Sirota is the Director of Strategic Communications at the American Progress Action Fund. Jonathan Baskin is the Fund’s research assistant.
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Doing Business With The Enemy
Aug. 29, 2004
(CBS) Did it ever occur to you that when President Bush says, "Money is the lifeblood of terrorist operations," he's talking about your money -- and every other American's money?
Just about everyone with a 401(k) pension plan or mutual fund has money invested in companies that are doing business in so-called rogue states.
In other words, there are U.S. companies that are helping drive the economies of countries like Iran, Syria and Libya, all places that have sponsored terrorists. Correspondent Lesley Stahl reported on this story last January.
"The revenue that is generated from the work that these companies are doing, we believe, helps to underwrite and support terrorism,” says William Thompson, the New York City comptroller who oversees the $80 billion in pension funds for all city workers.
He says he wants everyone with a retirement or investment portfolio to know what these companies are up to: “We're going to increase the public visibility on this issue until these companies change their practices.”
He’s actually identified specific companies that have invested in these rogue countries, including Halliburton, Conoco-Phillips and General Electric. And he points out that New York's pension funds own nearly $1 billion worth of stock in these three Fortune 500 companies, which have operations in Iran and Syria.
What was Thompson’s reaction when he found out about this? “Anger that there were companies that could be contributing to attacks on our nation,” he says. “You’d think to yourself, well, why would they do that? … I didn't think they could. And more than anything it was, you thought, that the law prevented them from doing this.”
In fact, U.S. law does ban virtually all commerce with the rogue nations, but there's a loophole that G.E., Conoco-Phillips and Halliburton have exploited: The law does not apply to any foreign or offshore subsidiary so long as it is run by non-Americans.
“These three companies, as far as we were concerned, appear to have violated the spirit of the law,” says Thompson. “In the case of Halliburton, as an example, they have an offshore subsidiary in the Cayman Islands. That subsidiary is doing business with Iran.”
That subsidiary, Halliburton Products and Services, Ltd., is wholly owned by the U.S.-based Halliburton and is registered in a building in the capital of the Cayman Islands – a building owned by the local Calidonian Bank. Halliburton and other companies set up in this Caribbean Island, because of tax and secrecy laws that are corporate friendly.
Halliburton is the company that Vice President Dick Cheney used to run. He was CEO from 1995 to 2000, during which time Halliburton Products and Services set up shop in Iran. Today, it sells about $40 million a year worth of oil field services to the Iranian government.
In the case of Iran, Thompson says they earn most of their revenues through their oil industry. So what is the connection between that oil business and terrorism and weapons of mass destruction?
“The Iranian government is receiving dollars from it. And then turning around and exporting terrorism around the world. It benefits terrorism. At least that's our belief,” says Thompson.
60 Minutes decided to ask Halliburton's subsidiary about its work in Iran. But we weren't allowed to enter the building with a camera. So we went in with a hidden camera, and were introduced to David Walker, manager of the local Calidonian Bank, where the subsidiary is registered.
60 Minutes was expecting to find a bustling business, but, to our surprise, Walker told us that while Halliburton Products and Services was registered at this address, it was in name only. There is no actual office here or anywhere else in the Caymans. And there are no employees on site.
We were told that if mail for the Halliburton subsidiary comes to this address, they re-route it to Halliburton headquarters in Houston.
“If you understood what most of these companies do, you would, they're not doing any business in Cayman per se. They're doing business, international business,” says Walker. “Would it make sense to have somebody in Cayman pushing paper around? I don't know. And some people do it. And some people don't. And it's mostly driven by whatever the issues are with the head office.”
Does that mean the head office is calling the shots? If it is, that would be against the law, which says the subsidiary must be completely independent of the U.S. company. But 60 Minutes’ attempts to ask headquarters in Houston about this were rebuffed.
In a letter to New York City Comptroller Thompson, Halliburton says its Cayman Island subsidiary is actually run out of Dubai. 60 Minutes went there and learned that it shares office space, phone and fax lines with a division of its U.S.-based parent company -- which raises more legal questions about its independence from Houston. But once again, our inquiries went unanswered.
In its letter to Thompson, Halliburton insists it is complying with all U.S. laws. But he and legal experts we consulted believe they are dancing right along the edge of legality.
“If the intent was to try and prevent United States-based companies from doing business in these "rogue" nations, then it appears as if they've gotten around what the law had intended,” says Thompson, who filed a shareholder’s resolution calling on the company to review and justify its operations in Iran. “Halliburton attempted to block the shareholder resolution. They went to the SEC and asked for permission not to put this before shareholders.”
Did the SEC take it up and rule on it?
“Oh, absolutely. The SEC ruled against Halliburton and said that it had to be put in front of the shareholders,” says Thompson, who plans to file the resolution at the next shareholders meeting in April.
He’s also taking issue with GE and its electrical work in Iran, as well as Conoco-Phillips' gas production business in Syria: “If there are nations that wind up increasing their resources because these companies are doing business there, and we're attacked because of it, it in fact undermines our entire country.”
Thompson says he decided to open the investigation in the first place at the request of New York City's police and firemen, who were outraged when they learned where their retirement money was going.
“The members of the Fire Department and the Police Department, after September 11th, given the fact that hundreds of them died in the World Trade Center as a result of a terrorist attack, had greater sensitivity than almost anybody,” says Thompson. “And they were the ones who kind of took the lead on this.”
But why do moral issues come into play when talking about pension funds?
“The way we've approached it isn't as on a moral basis, it is as investors,” says Thompson. “And what is in the best long-term interests of our pension funds because we hold stock in these companies.”
What these companies are doing, he says, isn't just a question of ethics - it's financially unsound, and bad for business.
Roger Robinson, who runs a research firm in Washington that monitors companies working in rogue states, agrees. He cites the case of Talisman Energy, whose reputation was damaged when it did business with the Islamic Republic of Sudan. The negative publicity led to something Wall Street calls "The Sudan Discount of Talisman Stock."
“In other words, the share value or stock price was depressed by some 20, 25 percent by some estimates,” says Robinson, who believes that Halliburton and GE could face the same risk.
Robinson has identified nearly 400 companies that are in most pension portfolios that are doing business in terrorist-sponsoring states. Well over 200, he says, are actually doing business in Iran; of that, more than 60 are doing business in Libya.
He says the companies are funneling tens of billions of dollars worth of capital, technology and know-how to the state-owned oil and gas sectors of these two countries.
Does he ever say to himself that by revealing this information, he’s taking steps to hurt the company and hurt the pension fund?
“I think that it could be looked at another way. We're certainly alerting investors to a genuine new risk category in the markets, every bit as legitimate as environmental risk was through Three Mile Island, Exxon Valdez and superfund legislation,” says Robinson. “So investors, we think, have a right to know. Remember, this is their retirement dollars. They should have a sense of those who invest on their behalf, are there genuine risks there?”
With that question of risk in mind, state treasurers across the country, like David Peterson of Arizona, are using Robinson's database to investigate their pension portfolios.
“I want to find out what projects they're doing and what is specifically the dollars they're investing, where they're going,” says Peterson.
Taken together, state-run pension investments amount to something like $7 trillion.
“Connecticut is working on it,” adds Peterson. “I know Pennsylvania, their legislature passed unanimously that we need to screen, with the approval of their pension system, for these risks.”
But some of the state treasurers are running into resistance from the pension funds. In Peterson's case, the Arizona State Retirement System refused to tell him anything about its holdings.
“I have asked the pension system. We'd like to know what investments you have, the scope of your investments, what companies you're involved with. We had a legislator ask,” says Peterson. “We actually had an intern from this office ask about what investments holdings do they have in some of these companies. And they just didn't want to provide it to us.”
And Peterson believes that they really don’t have grounds to refuse to give him, as state treasurer, that information.
“They've more just kind of tried to be evasive, and said that it's too hard to get this information,” he says.
This went on for months, but to our surprise, when we asked Arizona's pension fund managers for a list of its holdings, they gave it to us right away. And it confirmed what Peterson had suspected: that Arizonans unwittingly own stock in companies like Halliburton, General Electric and Conoco-Phillips.
“There's about 11 to 14 companies that are on the S&P 500 that are involved in some substantial projects with some of these countries,” says Peterson.
Congress recently directed the Securities and Exchange Commission to monitor companies operating in rogue nations.
But in New York, Comptroller Thompson isn't waiting. He says he's going to expand his investigation to include Boeing and other companies that do business in terrorist states.
“Those countries depend on dollars from us to live, to do business also,” says Thompson. “If we have, and if we put pressure on the companies, and they can't do business there, and others become embarrassed in doing business or buying oil there, well maybe we can help to force these countries to change their practices.”
Does he think this issue's going away?
“This issue isn't going to go away any time soon, at all,” says Thompson.
Halliburton declined 60 Minutes' request for an interview, but in an e-mail, the company indicated it has no intention of leaving Iran -- or addressing the questions we raised about the independence of its subsidiary.
The company did suggest that Thompson is playing politics with pension funds, insisting there is no connection between its operations in Iran and either terrorism or nuclear research.
As for General Electric and Conoco-Phillips, they say they are breaking no laws, and like Halliburton, make no apologies for their business dealings with states that sponsor terrorism.
Since 60 Minutes first broadcast this story, the company's work in Iran has come under increasing scrutiny - first by the Treasury Department and members of Congress, and most recently, by the Justice Department, which last month convened a federal grand jury in Houston to investigate whether the company is violating the U.S. embargo against Iran.
Halliburton officials, who declined our requests for an interview, maintain that the company is violating no laws or regulations. As for the other companies mentioned in our report, General Electric called our reporting "shallow and one-sided," while Conoco-Phillips announced that it will not accept any new business in any country that sponsors terrorism.
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....Cheney was hired by Halliburton in 1995, not long after he went on a fly-fishing trip in New Brunswick, Canada, with several corporate moguls. After Cheney had said good night, the others began talking about Halliburton’s need for a new C.E.O. Why not Dick? He had virtually no business experience, but he had valuable relationships with very powerful people. Lawrence Eagleburger, the Secretary of State in the first Bush Administration, became a Halliburton board member after Cheney joined the company. He told me that Cheney was the firm’s “outside man,” the person who could best help the company expand its business around the globe. Cheney was close to many world leaders, particularly in the Persian Gulf, a region central to Halliburton’s oil-services business. Cheney and his wife, Lynne, were so friendly with Prince Bandar, the Saudi Ambassador to the U.S., that the Prince had invited the Cheney family to his daughter’s wedding. (Cheney did not attend.) “Dick was good at opening doors,” Eagleburger said. “I don’t mean that pejoratively. He had contacts from his former life, and he used them effectively.”
Under Cheney’s direction, Halliburton thrived. In 1998, the company acquired its main rival, Dresser Industries. Cheney negotiated the $7.7-billion deal, reportedly during a weekend of quail-hunting. The combined conglomerate, which retained the Halliburton name, instantly became the largest company of its kind in the world. But, in its eagerness to merge, Halliburton had failed to detect the size of the legal liability that Dresser faced from long-dormant lawsuits dealing with asbestos poisoning. The claims proved so ruinous that several Halliburton divisions later filed for bankruptcy protection. The asbestos settlements devastated the company’s stock price, which fell by eighty per cent in just over a year.
Cheney’s defenders have argued that no one could have anticipated the extent of the asbestos problem. Yet the incident presaged a current criticism of Cheney: that he can be blindsided by insular decision-making. Eagleburger, who was on Dresser’s board of directors before it merged with Halliburton, told me, “I can’t fault Cheney as such on asbestos, but somebody slipped up somewhere in the due diligence. Somebody should have caught it.”
The Dresser merger also raised ethical questions. The United States had concluded that Iraq, Libya, and Iran supported terrorism and had imposed strict sanctions on them. Yet during Cheney’s tenure at Halliburton the company did business in all three countries. In the case of Iraq, Halliburton legally evaded U.S. sanctions by conducting its oil-service business through foreign subsidiaries that had once been owned by Dresser. With Iran and Libya, Halliburton used its own subsidiaries. The use of foreign subsidiaries may have helped the company to avoid paying U.S. taxes.
In some ways, the Libya and Iran transactions were consistent with Cheney’s views. He had long opposed economic sanctions as a political tool, even against South Africa’s apartheid regime. During the 2000 campaign, however, Cheney said he viewed Iraq differently. “I had a firm policy that we wouldn’t do anything in Iraq, even arrangements that were supposedly legal,” he told ABC News. But, under Cheney’s watch, two foreign subsidiaries of Dresser sold millions of dollars’ worth of oil services and parts to Saddam’s regime. The transactions were not illegal, but they were politically suspect. The deals occurred under the United Nations Oil-for-Food program, at a time when Saddam Hussein chose which companies his government would work with. Corruption was rampant. It may be that it was simply Halliburton’s expertise that attracted Saddam’s regime, but a United Nations diplomat with the Oil-for-Food program has doubts. “Most American companies were blacklisted,” he said. “It’s rather surprising to find Halliburton doing business with Saddam. It would have been very much a senior-level decision, made by the regime at the top.” Cheney has said that he personally directed the company to stop doing business with Saddam. Halliburton’s presence in Iraq ended in February, 2000.
During the 2000 Vice-Presidential debate Senator Joseph Lieberman teased Cheney abou the fortune he had amassed at Halliburton. “I’ pleased to see, Dick, that you’re better off than you were eight years ago,” he said.
“I can tell you that the government had absolutely nothing to do with it,” Cheney shot back. In fact, despite having spent years championing the private sector and disparaging big government, Cheney devoted himself at Halliburton to securing government funds. In the five years before Cheney joined Halliburton, the company received a hundred million dollars in government credit guarantees. During Cheney’s tenure, this amount jumped to $1.5 billion. One alliance that Cheney worked hard to make was with the Export-Import Bank, in Washington; he won the support of James Harmon, a Clinton appointee and the bank’s chairman. Harmon agreed to make a four-hundred-and-ninety-million-dollar loan guarantee to a Russian company that was drilling a huge oil field in Siberia. It was the largest loan guarantee to a Russian company in the bank’s history, and a big chunk of it would facilitate the Russian company’s purchase of Halliburton’s services. There was a hitch, however: the Russian company, Tyumen Oil, was caught in a messy dispute with several competitors, all of whom accused the others of being corrupt.
Cheney was undeterred by these charges. But he almost lost the Export-Import loan when the State Department attempted to block it, on the ground that Tyumen was involved in illegal activity. According to a source who worked at the State Department at the time, Cheney personally lobbied the government in an effort to keep the deal alive. He was particularly incensed by the involvement of the Central Intelligence Agency, which sided with the State Department. According to a friend of Cheney’s, he was convinced that the C.I.A. had been duped by opposition research spread by Tyumen’s rivals. Eventually, the deal went through. By then, though, Cheney’s frustration with government had become profound. As he said in a speech in 1998, “The average Halliburton hand knows more about the world than the average member of Congress.”
In the spring of 2000, Cheney’s two worlds—commerce and politics— merged. Halliburton allowed its C.E.O. to serve simultaneously as the head of George W. Bush’s Vice-Presidential search committee. At the time, Bush said that his main criterion for a running mate was “somebody who’s not going to hurt you.” Cheney demanded reams of documents from the candidates he considered. In the end, he picked himself—a move that his longtime friend Stuart Spencer recently described, with admiration, as “the most Machiavellian fucking thing I’ve ever seen.”
One man who was especially pleased by Cheney’s candidacy was Ahmed Chalabi, the Iraqi dissident who was the leading proponent of overthrowing Saddam Hussein. Cheney had come to know Chalabi through conservative circles in Washington. “I think he is good for us,” Chalabi told a U.P.I. reporter in June, 2000.
For months there has been a debate in Washington about when the Bush Administration decided to go to war against Saddam. In Ron Suskind’s recent book “The Price of Loyalty,” former Treasury Secretary Paul O’Neill charges that Cheney agitated for U.S. intervention well before the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. Additional evidence that Cheney played an early planning role is contained in a previously undisclosed National Security Council document, dated February 3, 2001. The top-secret document, written by a high-level N.S.C. official, concerned Cheney’s newly formed Energy Task Force. It directed the N.S.C. staff to coöperate fully with the Energy Task Force as it considered the “melding” of two seemingly unrelated areas of policy: “the review of operational policies towards rogue states,” such as Iraq, and “actions regarding the capture of new and existing oil and gas fields.”
A source who worked at the N.S.C. at the time doubted that there were links between Cheney’s Energy Task Force and the overthrow of Saddam. But Mark Medish, who served as senior director for Russian, Ukrainian, and Eurasian affairs at the N.S.C. during the Clinton Administration, told me that he regards the document as potentially “huge.” He said, “People think Cheney’s Energy Task Force has been secretive about domestic issues,” referring to the fact that the Vice-President has been unwilling to reveal information about private task-force meetings that took place in 2001, when information was being gathered to help develop President Bush’s energy policy. “But if this little group was discussing geostrategic plans for oil, it puts the issue of war in the context of the captains of the oil industry sitting down with Cheney and laying grand, global plans.”
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| halfrican920 |
| Unfortunately republicans love money more than they love their country....there is NO way one could possible defend this type of action |
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Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft.
Selective Service Number 326 46 228.
Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.
Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.
Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.
Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E.. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.'
Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!
Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), w hile a fugitive from justice.
Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21,1977, from President Carter.
Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personne l; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today.
There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.
The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?
THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forth coming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to Recall anything about past events while under oath. |
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Quote: Originally posted by oat
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft.
Selective Service Number 326 46 228.
Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.
Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.
Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.
Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E.. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.'
Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!
Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), w hile a fugitive from justice.
Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21,1977, from President Carter.
Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personne l; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today.
There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.
The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?
THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forth coming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to Recall anything about past events while under oath. |
Cut and paste!! Good job, so you support what cheney did? Why do you like Clinton so much, he's been out of office for over 6 years? |
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Quote: Originally posted by oat
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft.
Selective Service Number 326 46 228.
Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.
Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.
Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.
Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E.. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.'
Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!
Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), w hile a fugitive from justice.
Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21,1977, from President Carter.
Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personne l; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today.
There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.
The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?
THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forth coming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to Recall anything about past events while under oath. |
Umm, yeah.
And what exactly does any of that have to do with Dick Cheney doing business with terrorist nations?
Oh, and psst - Bill Clinton isn't the president anymore..... |
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| oat |
| Not a damn thing... Just posting why are you so defensive? |
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| oat |
| What is the statute of limitations on being a scumbag? |
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| jerryjr99 |
from the looks of the title of the thread I figured fatesweb had started it..
Good Job agent mulder |
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| Ironpirate |
| oh god not another bullshit assboil thread, please when can I take off my tin cap? |
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| jerryjr99 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
oh god not another bullshit assboil thread, please when can I take off my tin cap? |
Welcome aboard my level minded friend!!
Beware of these people they think the fukin feds are out to get them and Bush is responsible for 9-11 all the way to their hemroid problems.. Its all Bush's fault they say |
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| harley-davidson |
| your brain is a tin fucking cap |
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| jerryjr99 |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
My brain is a tin fucking cap |
Why did u turn ur brain into a tin cap man?? |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by jerryjr99
Welcome aboard my level minded friend!!
Beware of these people they think the fukin feds are out to get them and Bush is responsible for 9-11 all the way to their hemroid problems.. Its all Bush's fault they say |
I notice in all your bullshit you did not provide a single bit of evidence to prove anything I posted wrong....
And you hitching your wagon to shitpirate's shooting star only proves how horrible your judgement is.... |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: I notice in all your bullshit you did not provide a single bit of evidence to prove anything I posted wrong.... |
and i ask you assboil.......were you realy suprised they didn't...they are all the same no facts...all bullshit....just like their fearless leader |
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| Ironpirate |
| LIBERALS CAN ONLY ATTACK THEY HAVE NOTHING TO STAND FOR, IVE HAVE YET TO SEE A LIBERAL POST SOMETHING POSITIVE!@# Whats that say about your party? Bunch of bitchy woman playing monday morning qb bringing up half truths from over 5 years ago. No wonder you guys cant win, all you do is bitch. HAve you posted one issue or democrat platform? All you do is attack Bush, hes not running for president ever again. Its so painfully obvious that liberals are scared. |
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| BeerPal |
Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
LIBERALS CAN ONLY ATTACK THEY HAVE NOTHING TO STAND FOR, IVE HAVE YET TO SEE A LIBERAL POST SOMETHING POSITIVE |
Unclear on the concept and too stupid to understand that there is NOTHING positive about the Shrub Administration to post about. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
LIBERALS CAN ONLY ATTACK THEY HAVE NOTHING TO STAND FOR, IVE HAVE YET TO SEE A LIBERAL POST SOMETHING POSITIVE!@# Whats that say about your party? Bunch of bitchy woman playing monday morning qb bringing up half truths from over 5 years ago. No wonder you guys cant win, all you do is bitch. HAve you posted one issue or democrat platform? All you do is attack Bush, hes not running for president ever again. Its so painfully obvious that liberals are scared. |
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| FatesWebb |
come on guys, google can be your friend...
http://www.google.com/search?q=halliburton+nuclear+iran
Halliburton Secretly Doing Business with Key Member of Iran's ...
Scandal-plagued Halliburton, the oil services company once headed by Vice President Dick was secretly working with one of Iran’s top nuclear program ...
www.commondreams.org/views05/0806-21.htm - 19k - Cached - Similar pages
Halliburton Doing Business With the 'Axis of Evil' (washingtonpost ...
The Halliburton contract, the parliamentarians complained, was "a threat to Iran's nuclear stance." An Iranian government spokesman did not respond to the ...
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/artic...8-2005Feb2.html - Similar pages
portland imc - 2005.08.12 - Cheney/Halliburton sold Iran nuclear ...
Still receiving a million dollars a year from the corporation, Cheney's Halliburton supplied the nuclear components to Iran in 2004 that neocon's are now ...
portland.indymedia.org/en/2005/08/322950.shtml - 49k - Cached - Similar pages
Terror Watch: Halliburton’s Deal with Iran - Newsweek National ...
Halliburton’s CEO says his company is pulling out of Iran. ... to the country’s hotly-disputed nuclear enrichment program—a project the Bush administration ...
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6982444/site/newsweek/ - 58k - Cached - Similar pages
Al Jazeera
Halliburton sources revealed that the company sold Iran centrifuges and detonators to be used specifically for a nuclear reactor as well oil and natural gas ...
www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/conspirac...tory.asp?id=244 - 41k - Sep 5, 2006 - Cached - Similar pages
Jason Leopold: Halliburton and Iran
Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran’s nuclear secrets and accepting as much as $1 ...
www.counterpunch.org/leopold08062005.html - 46k - Cached - Similar pages
Iran Focus-Iran’s top nuclear negotiator faces charges over ...
Iran’s top nuclear negotiator faces charges over Halliburton ties. Fri. 29 Jul 2005. Iran Focus Tehran, Iran, Jul. 29 – Iran’s judiciary has arrested ...
www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3040 - 16k - Cached - Similar pages
Halliburton Unit Wins Contract in Iran
The Halliburton unit, headquartered in Dubai, is reportedly the target of a grand ... so long as Iran refuses to set aside its nuclear weapons ambitions and ...
daily.nysun.com/Repository/m2.asp?Issue=NYS/2005/01/12&ID=Ar00103&Mode=HTML - 13k - Cached - Similar pages
Halliburton, Iran, and Nukes - OK Indymedia
It's unclear whether Halliburton was actually privy to Iran's nuclear activities. A company spokesperson did not return numerous calls for comment. ...
www.okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id...save_prefs=true - 24k - Cached - Similar pages
Halliburton, Iran, and Nukes - Oklahoma (state news) Government ...
Nasseri was interrogated by Iranian authorities in late July for allegedly providing Halliburton with Iran's nuclear secrets, and accepting as much as $1 ...
www.okimc.org/newswire.php?story_id...print_page=true - 8k - Cached - Similar pages |
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| SDVT-2 |
Quote: Originally posted by halfrican920
Unfortunately republicans love money more than they love their country....there is NO way one could possible defend this type of action |
At least 40 of the 100 US senators are millionaires, some many times over, according to financial disclosure filings submitted last month. Republicans on the list outnumbered Democrats by a narrow margin of 22 to 18. However, Democratic senators hold the top five spots on the list and eight of the top ten, according to an analysis of the forms by CNN. |
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| Ironpirate |
Quote: Originally posted by SDVT-2
At least 40 of the 100 US senators are millionaires, some many times over, according to financial disclosure filings submitted last month. Republicans on the list outnumbered Democrats by a narrow margin of 22 to 18. However, Democratic senators hold the top five spots on the list and eight of the top ten, according to an analysis of the forms by CNN. |
Yeah and how many more republicans are there though? |
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| Ass Boil |
That is the most pointless argument. Who cares if the person is a millionaire? It's how they vote that affects your life. Republicans ( and some Dems ) will always put corporate interests first. many of the wealthy Dems were the ones saying "we don't need a tax cut".
Keep trying. |
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Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
LIBERALS CAN ONLY ATTACK THEY HAVE NOTHING TO STAND FOR, |
1) Prove it.
Until then, we'll file it under "unproven Oxycontin-addict talking point."
Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
IVE HAVE YET TO SEE A LIBERAL POST SOMETHING POSITIVE! |
2) That's proof? It's not even factual. Is anyone surprised that once again, Ironpirate is dead wrong?
3) Positive posts? We start whole positive TOPICS! Here are just a few positive topics started by me:
* Happy Labor WEEK!
* New AP Poll: Most Americans Plan to Vote for Democrats
* Conservatives Weep As Black People Are Allowed to Keep Voting in the South
4) How could you not know? You've posted in the above! |
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Quote: Originally posted by oat
Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 8, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft.
Selective Service Number 326 46 228.
Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968.
Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969.
Bill Clinton refuses to report and is not inducted into the military.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07, 1969, under authority of Col. E. Holmes.
Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment.
Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969.
Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E.. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction.'
Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1, 1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE!
Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40.
Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), w hile a fugitive from justice.
Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21,1977, from President Carter.
Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President of the United States.
All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton.
After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personne l; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished.
Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, DC that are now dead would be alive today.
There are two men, both extremely wealthy. One develops relatively cheap software and gives billions of dollars to charity.
The other sponsors terrorism. That being the case, why was it that the Clinton Administration spent more money chasing down Bill Gates over the eight years in office, than Osama bin Laden?
THINK ABOUT IT! It is a strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8 Million for her forth coming memoir. Bill gets about $12 Million for his memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years being unable to Recall anything about past events while under oath. |
This is a hoax.
It is easily disproved merely by typing any part of it into Google. It is so poorly written that anyone who would be fooled into posting it fails the basic test of minimal intelligence.
What does that say about you, oat?
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/politics/clintondraft.asp
Claim: Bill Clinton was the "first pardoned federal felon ever to serve as President of the U.S."
Status: False.
Example: [Collected on the Internet, 2002] |
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Quote: Originally posted by oat
What is the statute of limitations on being a scumbag? |
Define "scumbag.' Could it be:
"one who posts defaming lies online"
"one who fails to check his sources and therefore makes himself into the gullible butt of a transparently obvious Internet hoax?"
"one who hopes to refute highly-relevent truth with off-topic lies"
Which kind is oat? |
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| incoherent |
| Sure is a long time for this cut n run from the likes of Ironpirate and oat |
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| Ass Boil |
| I would love to get the brilliant redeye's opinion on this subject. :rolleyes: |
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| harley-davidson |
| i was listening to thom hartman the other week,fuckin cheney and rumsfelds paranoid bullshit goes way back,back to the 70's,they thought russia had subs that could defeat radar,they couldn't find them ...but they knew they were there.....and well they never were found,but yea these fucking idiots wanted to start shit with russia over these fucking ghost subs 30-35 years ago... |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
i was listening to thom hartman the other week,fuckin cheney and rumsfelds paranoid bullshit goes way back,back to the 70's,they thought russia had subs that could defeat radar,they couldn't find them ...but they knew they were there.....and well they never were found,but yea these fucking idiots wanted to start shit with russia over these fucking ghost subs 30-35 years ago... |
Yeah, I heard that too. That blew my mind. It's unbelievable they can get away with it again.... |
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| Crazytree |
| abramoff and bob ney both lobbied the white house on behalf of arms dealers wanting to do business with iran. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Crazytree
abramoff and bob ney both lobbied the white house on behalf of arms dealers wanting to do business with iran. |
abramamoff.... |
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| harley-davidson |
fuckin reagan got caught selling arms to the iran contra's,and when they held hearings on it his defense was " i don't remember" nothing ever came out of it....
these fucking guys like browneye wanna blame clinton for everything,and i don't worship clinton,all the fucking monsters we are fighting right now...bush sr and reagan created and or armed the idiots..and that includes bin-ladin old ronnie reagan armed and trained bins troops |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
fuckin reagan got caught selling arms to the iran contra's,and when they held hearings on it his defense was " i don't remember" nothing ever came out of it....
these fucking guys like browneye wanna blame clinton for everything,and i don't worship clinton,all the fucking monsters we are fighting right now...bush sr and reagan created and or armed the idiots..and that includes bin-ladin old ronnie reagan armed and trained bins troops |
I'm in the same boat, hd. I was never impressed with Clinton, but every day Bush has been in office makes him look that much better, IMHO...
This group of Republicans we have right now are unlike any other group this country has ever seen. They are members of a bloodthirsty cult, only they get our armed forces to do their dirty work for them. |
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