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| Ass Boil |
The hunt for bin Laden
Near the end of the press conference, Newsweek senior White House correspondent Richard Wolffe noted that Bush had previously said that "the idea of sending Special Forces to Pakistan to hunt down bin Laden was as a strategy that would not work." Wolffe went on to ask Bush why he thinks "it's a bad idea to send more resources to hunt down bin Laden wherever he is." Following is Bush's response:
BUSH: We are, Richard. ... Pakistan is a sovereign nation. In order for us to send thousands of troops into a sovereign nation, we've got to be invited by the government of Pakistan.
Secondly, the best way to find somebody who is hiding is to enhance your intelligence and to spend the resources necessary to do that; then when you find him, you bring him to justice. And there is a kind of an urban myth here in Washington about how this administration hasn't stayed focused on Osama bin Laden. Forget it. It's convenient throw-away lines when people say that. We have been on the hunt, and we'll stay on the hunt until we bring him to justice, and we're doing it in a smart fashion, Richard. We are. And I look forward to talking to [Pakistani] President [Pervez] Musharraf.
Look, he doesn't like Al Qaeda. They tried to kill him. And we've had a good record of bringing people to justice inside of Pakistan, because the Paks are in the lead. They know the stakes about dealing with a violent form of ideological extremists. And so we will continue on the hunt. And we've been effective about bringing to justice most of those who planned and plotted the 9/11 attacks, and we've still got a lot of pressure on them. The best way to protect the homeland is to stay on the offense and keep pressure on them.
This answer could have provoked several follow-up questions:
If allegations that your administration has not stayed focused on bin Laden are nothing more than an "urban myth," how do you explain the CIA's decision in late 2005 to disband the unit that for a decade had focused solely on locating and capturing the Al Qaeda leader? Further, if we "have been on the hunt," why did you state in a March 13, 2002, press conference, "I truly am not that concerned about [bin Laden]"?
You asserted that Pakistan is committed to bringing bin Laden to justice. But how do you explain reports that the Pakistani army recently negotiated a "peace agreement" with Al Qaeda militants along the Afghan border -- where many believe bin Laden is hiding?
If bin Laden is in fact in Pakistan, how do you square the United States' continued alliance with Pakistan with your own previous statement that any country harboring terrorists is no better than terrorists?
Bush proceeded to call on the final reporter, Time magazine White House correspondent Mike Allen. But rather than address any of these issues, Allen shifted to an entirely different topic: reports that Bush brought up the concept of a "Third Awakening" during a recent meeting with conservative journalists. |
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| thoroldjames |
I love it
shows just how little these asshats in power think of the American public.
either that or they are in fact mentally handicapped |
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| harley-davidson |
| what ever happened to " your either with us or your agianst us"...lol |
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| Ass Boil |
| I wonder if any Republicans remember Bush saying he would treat the countries harboring terrorists the same as the terrorists themselves? |
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| Abba |
Quote: Originally posted by thoroldjames
I love it
shows just how little these asshats in power think of the American public.
either that or they are in fact mentally handicapped |
They don't care anymore because our job is over. Before the 2008 election, there WILL be another terrorist attack, a bad one, which will throw the country into chaos, and Bush in his enlightened ways will implement martial law, start operating his condentration camps Halliburton's been building, and suspend the election indefinately, citing "safety concerns".
Dude, even that black hole of death robot Cheney is saying shit he would have never admit to before, simply because they don't care anymore. |
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| Ass Boil |
| Where's that whore NCMike? I wonder if he has an opinion on Bush saying we cannot go into Pakistan and get OBL unless we are "invited"? |
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| Billyfromsphily |
So Pakistan is a "Sovereign" nation and "Iraq" is not ? Harboring terrorists is not a problem in Pakistan? They will cooperate?
Who the fuck is he kidding? .......................OH yeah, Ironasshole and NCMORON06.
November can't come fast enough! Let him operate for the last 2 years with accountability! |
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| SaintJimmy |
I find it absolutely amazing that people like ncmike will see this, and think nothing of it, even though it clearly defies all reason.
un-fucking-believable :( |
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| FatesWebb |
| HAH I would like to interject an I TOLD YOU SO here. It seems I said we would not attack Pakistan, about 2 weeks ago... I stated that the ties of the CIA and the ISI were too strong to allow attacking this country. |
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| intelliplus |
| Mush is fucking Bush and the bugger is allowing that to happen knowingly or unknowingly. Mush is making a joker of Bush and therefore of entire America. pakistan is a TERRORIST COUNTRY AND MUSH IS ITS CHIEF. What an ally chosen by BUSH! Bush is an insult to American intellect. |
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| Stonewall |
It's not like we are not going into Pakistan. We surely are and we recently bombed a site in Pakistan where we thought Zawahiri was located.
The Muslims in Pakistan view Al Qaeda and the Taliban in a very good light. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
HAH I would like to interject an I TOLD YOU SO here. It seems I said we would not attack Pakistan, about 2 weeks ago... I stated that the ties of the CIA and the ISI were too strong to allow attacking this country. |
WHAT????????????
Its simpler than that, They have the BOMB and we don't want them to use it or sell it! Don't over complicate the situation! |
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| Stern-E-Duke |
| Quote: Secondly, the best way to find somebody who is hiding is to enhance your intelligence and to spend the resources necessary to do that; then when you find him, you bring him to justice. And there is a kind of an urban myth here in Washington about how this administration hasn't stayed focused on Osama bin Laden. Forget it. It's convenient throw-away lines when people say that. We have been on the hunt, and we'll stay on the hunt until we bring him to justice, and we're doing it in a smart fashion, Richard. We are. And I look forward to talking to [Pakistani] President [Pervez] Musharraf. |
I believe the bullshit meter is redlining.
Typical vague Bush rhetoric. |
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| Ass Boil |
| Anyone who cares to read the original authorization Bush was given after 9/11 will see that it specifically authorized him to go after bin Laden...... He has used it for everything but. |
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| Ass Boil |
Where the hell are all the Bush apologists on this? Bush just said he will not go into Pakistan unless he is "invited"! Pakistan has basically admitted Osama bin Laden is hiding there, and they have made some sort of fucking bullshit "peace agreement" with him.
What will you Republicans say when Osama puts his name on another attack? |
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| Billyfromsphily |
The will cut and run and blaime Clinton/Kerry/Gore or even Jimmy Carter as they usually do.
Bush now is using the hypocritical practice of returning to the standards set by other administrations after he has seen how his cavalier and cowboy style has failed so miserably the
last 6 years.
"OH I was always a supporter of the Geneva Convention, we should take a second look at the enviroment" type of Bullshit. You will see some of the most amazing lying yet, when the House and Senate are lost in November. |
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| DREAD |
| If the Pakistani government has lost control of a region- it is not Pakistan- it is Talibanistan. Hit it and hit it hard with some nukes. |
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| urbanangel |
| Iran is a sovereign nation too and it didn't stop the U.S. from sending in special ops. Here's betting that they are operating in Pakistan as well on the real low down hush hush. |
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| Luther |
| HAHAHA Truely Bizarre. |
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| intelliplus |
Mush is milking Bush and the kind of money and weaponry the ass is granting to Pakistan, much to the chagrin of a peace-loving country like India that has suffered a lot due to terrorism unequivocally supported and abetted by Pakistan, soon all that sum and ammo is going to be used against Americans among others.
Simply because an arch- terrorist like Mush has the BOMB , doesn't mean that Bush should strengthen the monster further. Until or unless the global nursery of terrorism Pakistan and itsChief care-taker Mush is not killed, Pakistan will keep throwing dust in the eyes of the world and keep sending and training terrorists.
PAKISTAN IS THE BREEDING GROUND OF ALL TERRORISM AND MUST BE SET RIGHT. |
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| txcoltfan |
| Nothing surprising here. We've known for a while now that Bush isn't actually concerned with catching terrorists or going after the governments that give them safe harbor. All of his tough talk is just wannabe cowboy bullshit. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote:
Press secretary to the president of Pakistan tells ABC Osama bin Laden will not be captured if he agrees to live 'peaceful life'
Ron Brynaert
Published: Tuesday September 5, 2006
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Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan, press secretary to the president of Pakistan, tells ABC News that -- if found -- Osama bin Laden won't be arrested, as long as he promises to behave like a "peaceful citizen."
"If he is in Pakistan, bin Laden 'would not be taken into custody,' Major General Shaukat Sultan Khan told ABC News in a telephone interview, 'as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen," report Brian Ross and Gretchen Peters at ABC's blog, The Blotter.
"No, as long as one is being like a peaceful citizen, one would not be taken into custody," said Khan. "One has to stay like a peaceful citizen and not allowed to participate in any kind of terrorist activity."
"The surprising announcement comes as Pakistani army officials announced they were pulling their troops out of the North Waziristan region as part of a 'peace deal' with the Taliban," reports ABC.
Pakistan will also be returning many Taliban prisoners and seized weapons.
According to VOA, "security experts say Afghan insurgents and remnants of Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network have managed to establish several bases in the region."
Earlier today, President Bush cited Pakistan's help in working together "to stop the world's most dangerous men from getting their hands on the world's most dangerous weapons," in a speech on the global war on terror he gave in Washington, D.C. to the Military Officers Association of America.
"Working with Great Britain and Pakistan and other nations, the United States shut down the world's most dangerous nuclear trading cartel, the AQ Khan network," Bush had said. "This network had supplied Iran and Libya and North Korea with equipment and know-how that advanced their efforts to obtain nuclear weapons."
The president also said that "we're working with friends and allies to deny the terrorists the enclaves they seek to establish in ungoverned areas across the world."
Dr. Abdul Qadeer Khan, famously known as the "father of Pakistan's nuclear program," was dismissed from his position as Science Adviser to President Musharraf in January of 2004 but was never arrested. A month later, after apologizing to the nation on television, Musharraf pardoned A.Q. Khan.
Reports of al Qaeda in Pakistan
It has recently been reported that al Qaeda's production company, As Sahab, is based in Pakistan.
"Five years after 9/11, Pakistan appears to have replaced Afghanistan as the group's center of gravity," reported CNN. "Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, are widely believed to be in the more remote parts of this country."
"Waziristan is one of the places where bin Laden and al-Zawahiri are thought to have hidden out and where As Sahab produces its work," wrote Henry Schuster for CNN.
Two-and-a-half years ago, after reports surfaced that al-Zawahiri had been "captured or killed" in Pakistan, Shaukat Sultan Khan, then spokesman for the Army, said that nobody could "be confident" about such news.
"It can't be said with certainty who is here and who is not here," said Shaukat Sultan Khan in March of 2004.
ABC'S Report
"In effect, the Pakistani government said today as long as bin Laden and the Taliban promise to behave they can stay in Pakistan and will not be taken into custody," reported Brian Ross on ABC's broadcast Tuesday evening.
ABC noted that the deal with Taliban militants "comes just six months after President Bush said Pakistani President Musharraf was committed to victory against terrorists."
"Mr. President and I reaffirmed our shared commitment to a broad and lasting strategic partnership," Bush had said in a joint press conference with Musharraf held during his March visit to Pakistan. "And that partnership begins with close cooperation in the war on terror."
In that press conference, a reporter asked the president if the United States was "getting the access and the help that it needs to go after al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden."
"The best way to defeat al Qaeda is to find -- is to share good intelligence to locate them, and then to be prepared to bring them to justice," Bush had said.
News that Pakistan will "in effect" leave Osama bin Laden alone if he behaves "peacefully" in the region is certain to cause a stir less than a week before the five-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. Democrats, as well as many Republicans, may characterize Pakistan's stance as going against President Bush's 2001 declaration that nations which harbor terrorists should be considered "hostile."
"Every nation, in every region, now has a decision to make," Bush told the world on September 20, 2001. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists."
"From this day forward, any nation that continues to harbor or support terrorism will be regarded by the United States as a hostile regime," Bush had declared.
After Bush's speech today, Senator John Kerry, the 2004 Democratic Presidential nominee, accused the president of losing "focus" on the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 attacks.
"Because President Bush lost focus on the killers who attacked us and instead launched a disastrous war in Iraq, today Osama bin Laden and his henchmen still find sanctuary in the no man's land between Afghanistan and Pakistan, where they still plot attacks against America," said Kerry.
Early Wednesday morning, ABC reported that Pakistan was now denying "it would allow Osama bin Laden to avoid capture under terms of a peace agreement it signed with Taliban leaders in the country's North Waziristan area," and that the Pakistani military spokesman had been "grossly misquoted."
"'If he is in Pakistan, today or any time later, he will be taken into custody and brought to justice,' the Pakistani ambassador to the United States, Mahmud Ali Durrani, said in a statement," according to The Blotter.
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/P...istan_0905.html
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| Ironpirate |
| haha, now liberals want us to invade a country, lmao |
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| intelliplus |
| Pakistan is a Terrorist State MORON out to destroy you! What would a clown like you do then,'lmao'? |
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| intelliplus |
One wonders why America does not put pressure on Bush to act against Pakistan when it has been proven beyond any iota of doubt that all terrorist acts in the world emanate from Pakistan. All roads to terrorism either start or end at pakistan.
Inspite of this, Bush calls Musharraf a 'gentleman' whose working he so very much admires! One wonders whether Bush is a bigger ass than we think or the credit be given to that Devil named Mush for throwing dust into the eyes of the world so dexterously. The fact is that all this while he is continually running with the deer and hunting with the hound at the same time.
If you want to end terrorism America finish Pakistan and Mush first . And to begin with end all ties with a rogue and terrorist country like Pakistan. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
haha, now liberals want us to invade a country, lmao |
You are such a goddamned retard. The point is that countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were ALWAYS more of a threat than iraq.... Sorry that has to be pointed out to you, fuckface. |
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| thoroldjames |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
You are such a goddamned retard. The point is that countries like Pakistan and Saudi Arabia were ALWAYS more of a threat than iraq.... Sorry that has to be pointed out to you, fuckface. |
He's not the only one who needs to have this fact pointed out to him
HE'S A FAAAAAAGGGGG :D |
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| intelliplus |
I know that you know that your name says it all that you are an ASS and when so ever someone fucks you hard your ass BOILS.
Good that I fucked you and could bring your goddamn ass to boil again. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by intelliplus
I know that you know that your name says it all that you are an ASS and when so ever someone fucks you hard your ass BOILS.
Good that I fucked you and could bring your goddamn ass to boil again. |
Not sure what your problem is, bud, but I think you are barking up the wrong tree.... |
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| intelliplus |
Assboil,
I apologise that I mistook your reply containing invectives to Ironpirate as it
appeared just below my post and indulged in absolutely unnecessary and unfair
adjectives.
I learnt about the mistake as soon as the post hit the board but I being new to the forum could not edit or repost immediately due to restrictions in place. Hence sent you an email and apology therein.
SORRY! |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by intelliplus
Assboil,
I apologise that I mistook your reply containing invectives to Ironpirate as it
appeared just below my post and indulged in absolutely unnecessary and unfair
adjectives.
I learnt about the mistake as soon as the post hit the board but I being new to the forum could not edit or repost immediately due to restrictions in place. Hence sent you an email and apology therein.
SORRY! |
It's ok friend, I figured that's what it was.... Nice rant, though! ;) |
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| intelliplus |
Quote: Originally posted by Assboil
| Quote: It's ok friend, I figured that's what it was.... Nice rant, though! |
I admire your sportsmanspirit ! |
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| Jackie's Career |
Quote: Originally posted by Ironpirate
haha, now liberals want us to invade a country, lmao |
LOL |
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