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GnarlyBarkley
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200502170843.asp

probably because you're all too involved with reactionist politics and conspiracy theories. i could really care less about "debating" with the stoners and mixed-up kids who post in this pathetic excuse for a political forum. i'll leave the people with half a brain with this though, take a look at this huge story, why isn't it big news on CNN? look at the people on the "left" and what they're fighting for. look at what people like George Soros stand for and where they throw their money. these are the people you're aligned with politically? if this country hadn't lost it's balls in the 1960s this piece of garbage Lynn Stewart would be hung for treason. an activist judge and Soros' money got her a light sentence.
iatebethO
Quote: Originally posted by GnarlyBarkley
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200502170843.asp

probably because you're all too involved with reactionist politics and conspiracy theories. i could really care less about "debating" with the stoners and mixed-up kids who post in this pathetic excuse for a political forum. i'll leave the people with half a brain with this though, take a look at this huge story, why isn't it big news on CNN? look at the people on the "left" and what they're fighting for. look at what people like George Soros stand for and where they throw their money. these are the people you're aligned with politically? if this country hadn't lost it's balls in the 1960s this piece of garbage Lynn Stewart would be hung for treason. an activist judge and Soros' money got her a light sentence.


Probably because nobody gives a fuck. National Review? More Bush propaganda.
angrychink
is that where that sick fuck kristol is from?
G-Spot
Oh Fucking Christ, another NeoCunt whining about George Soros.

Go wash your vagina.
GnarlyBarkley
don't take time to read the article...who cares where it's from, go dig up the AP piece on it douchebags. so many clueless people on this board, i don't know if it's frightening or hilarious
Robinsmuff
Quote: Originally posted by GnarlyBarkley
don't take time to read the article...who cares where it's from, go dig up the AP piece on it douchebags. so many clueless people on this board, i don't know if it's frightening or hilarious


What is frightening is people like you & your absolute ignorance to your ignorance. It is clear in reading your post you actually believe you are one of the well informed & educated. You're a fucking simple minded idiot who digest what ever bullshit your ultra conservative leaders feed you. If you truly searched for & internalized real information from a multitude of resources you would realize how fucking pathetic your frame of reference is.

I read your article & if this is what keeps you up at night you are to fucking stupid to argue with. today our President signed a law that effectively allows him to hold any American citizen prisoner with out explanation or trial. This law conflicts with the very ideals our Country was founded on. One of our most basic rights has vanished overnight due to a bunch of fucking pussies like yourself who live in terror of whatever your leaders tell you to be afraid of, & you are worried about Sorros. The terrorist have already won by causing our fear to allow our leaders to slowly strip our rights, & ill informed asswipes like yourself think you have the answers. Pathetic!!!
Crazytree
Quote: Originally posted by GnarlyBarkley
don't take time to read the article...who cares where it's from, go dig up the AP piece on it douchebags. so many clueless people on this board, i don't know if it's frightening or hilarious


I read the article... or at least the first two paragraphs... and I too do not give a fuck... and neither should anyone else... unless you're reaching for straws as your beloved SS Republican continues to take on water and list heavily to the side while your mental invalid Captain is assuring everyone that everything is "magnificent and under control".

see you on the bottom of the ocean, asshole.:gdf:
Kill Van Kull
Quote: Originally posted by Robinsmuff
What is frightening is people like you & your absolute ignorance to your ignorance. It is clear in reading your post you actually believe you are one of the well informed & educated. You're a fucking simple minded idiot who digest what ever bullshit your ultra conservative leaders feed you. If you truly searched for & internalized real information from a multitude of resources you would realize how fucking pathetic your frame of reference is.

I read your article & if this is what keeps you up at night you are to fucking stupid to argue with. today our President signed a law that effectively allows him to hold any American citizen prisoner with out explanation or trial. This law conflicts with the very ideals our Country was founded on. One of our most basic rights has vanished overnight due to a bunch of fucking pussies like yourself who live in terror of whatever your leaders tell you to be afraid of, & you are worried about Sorros. The terrorist have already won by causing our fear to allow our leaders to slowly strip our rights, & ill informed asswipes like yourself think you have the answers. Pathetic!!!


yeah...what he said!

Wow, that was quite a beat-down there 'muff.

It is so very sad that people like this, with their "absolute ignorance to their own ignorance," are slowly erroding everything this country stands for and consistantly voting against their own best interests.

I believe the reason they fall for the "marketing" is because many of them feel insignificant in today's America and got beat-up in high school.

:p
patcracker
Quote: unless you're reaching for straws as your beloved SS Republican continues to take on water and list heavily to the side while your mental invalid Captain is assuring everyone that everything is "magnificent and under control".


:lol: your to funny
Reed Rothchild
What's the big deal? She broke the law, and should have got more jail time, but what about the sentence is "activist"? I thought judicial activisim was all about judges overturning legislation, "legislating" from the bench. It looks like the Soros contributions were as much about ensuring her compenent representation as anything else. That's one of the great things about this country, even baby killing mad dog rapists are at least entitled to legal counsel.
eyegore62
Quote: Originally posted by Robinsmuff
What is frightening is people like you & your absolute ignorance to your ignorance. It is clear in reading your post you actually believe you are one of the well informed & educated. You're a fucking simple minded idiot who digest what ever bullshit your ultra conservative leaders feed you. If you truly searched for & internalized real information from a multitude of resources you would realize how fucking pathetic your frame of reference is.

I read your article & if this is what keeps you up at night you are to fucking stupid to argue with. today our President signed a law that effectively allows him to hold any American citizen prisoner with out explanation or trial. This law conflicts with the very ideals our Country was founded on. One of our most basic rights has vanished overnight due to a bunch of fucking pussies like yourself who live in terror of whatever your leaders tell you to be afraid of, & you are worried about Sorros. The terrorist have already won by causing our fear to allow our leaders to slowly strip our rights, & ill informed asswipes like yourself think you have the answers. Pathetic!!!


I assume you are referring to the Military Commissions Act.

This contradicts this statement "today our President signed a law that effectively allows him to hold any American citizen prisoner with out explanation or trial" you made....

Sec. 948c. Persons subject to military commissions

`Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military commission under this chapter.

I could not find anything in here (albeit after a quick review) to support your claim. Where did you read that citizens can be held without explanation or trial?
Kill Van Kull
Quote: Originally posted by eyegore62
I assume you are referring to the Military Commissions Act.

This contradicts this statement "today our President signed a law that effectively allows him to hold any American citizen prisoner with out explanation or trial" you made....

Sec. 948c. Persons subject to military commissions

`Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military commission under this chapter.

I could not find anything in here (albeit after a quick review) to support your claim. Where did you read that citizens can be held without explanation or trial?



I think what he means is a detainee's that is designated as an enemy combatant under the Combat Status Review Tribunal, would lose guarantees provided by the Bill of rights, like habeus corpus, regardless of whether he were an American citizen or not.

I'm no expert, but that's what it sounds lile to me...
FatesWebb
Quote: Originally posted by GnarlyBarkley
http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200502170843.asp

probably because you're all too involved with reactionist politics and conspiracy theories. i could really care less about "debating" with the stoners and mixed-up kids who post in this pathetic excuse for a political forum. i'll leave the people with half a brain with this though, take a look at this huge story, why isn't it big news on CNN? look at the people on the "left" and what they're fighting for. look at what people like George Soros stand for and where they throw their money. these are the people you're aligned with politically? if this country hadn't lost it's balls in the 1960s this piece of garbage Lynn Stewart would be hung for treason. an activist judge and Soros' money got her a light sentence.


first of all her client was framed TWO TIMES. secondly, they broke the law, when they took away the client lawyer privledge. YOU DEFEND THAT? THIS IS AMERICA! OR IS IT ANYMORE??

you are ignorant on this subject!!! if you knew the facts you would not be posting this BS!!!

FatesWebb
Robinsmuff
Quote: Originally posted by eyegore62
I assume you are referring to the Military Commissions Act.

This contradicts this statement "today our President signed a law that effectively allows him to hold any American citizen prisoner with out explanation or trial" you made....

Sec. 948c. Persons subject to military commissions

`Any alien unlawful enemy combatant is subject to trial by military commission under this chapter.

I could not find anything in here (albeit after a quick review) to support your claim. Where did you read that citizens can be held without explanation or trial?


I am assuming that this question has since been answered for you in other post, but in case it hasn't here

According to every legal expert I have heard or read about this subject, the President or a commission he forms, can paint anyone as an enemy combatant & hold them without explanation.
Quote: legislation that allows American citizens to be labeled “enemy combatants,” incarcerated, and tortured. Senator Arlen Specter warned


Those are the words of a Republican Senator & legal expert.

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