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| redeye |
If I may be blatantly honest, I think Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited by shilling for a Democrat politician. It's a way to mislead voters that there's a cure for Parkinson's disease if only Claire McCaskill gets elected.
If you start making promises to people who suffer from diseases like Parkinson's that there's a cure right around the corner if only somebody gets elected, you are creating a false-hope scenario -- and that is cruel, if you ask me.
MJF Video - click here
Stem cells may cause tumours: US study
October 23, 2006 - 1:09PM
Injecting human embryonic stem cells into the brains of Parkinson's disease patients may cause tumours to form, U.S. researchers reported on Sunday.
Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of Rochester Medical Center in New York said human stem cells injected into rat brains turned into cells that looked like early tumours.
Writing in the journal Nature Medicine, the researchers said the transplants clearly helped the rats, but some of the cells started growing in a way that could eventually lead to a tumour.
Various types of cell transplants are being tried to treat Parkinson's disease, caused when dopamine-releasing cells die in the brain.
This key neurotransmitter, or message-carrying chemical, is involved in movement and Parkinson's patients suffer muscle dysfunction that can often lead to paralysis. Drugs can slow the process for a while but there is no cure.
The idea behind brain cell transplants is to replace the dead cells. Stem cells are considered particularly promising as they can be directed to form the precise desired tissue and do not trigger an immune response.
Goldman's team used human embryonic stem cells. Taken from days-old embryos, these cells can form any kind of cell in the body. This batch had been cultured in substances aimed at making them become brain cells.
Previous groups have tried to coax stem cells into becoming dopamine-releasing cells.
Goldman's team apparently succeeded and transplanted them into the rats with an equivalent of Parkinson's damage. The animals did get better.
But the grafted cells started to show areas that no longer consisted of dopamine-releasing neurons, but of dividing cells that had the potential to give rise to tumours.
The researchers killed the animals before they could know for sure, and said any experiments in humans would have to be done very cautiously.
Scientists have long feared that human embryonic stem cells could turn into tumours, because of their pliability.
Opponents of embryonic stem cell research cite such threats. Many opponents, including President George W. Bush and some members of Congress, believe it is immoral to destroy human embryos to obtain their stem cells. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
| The Republicans are exploiting you for your illness right NOW! |
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| BeerPal |
| Look, Einstein, do you think theyt had to twist his arm to do it? He knows that your back-assward, anti-science, fundamentalist, born-again president is helping to hasten the suffering and death of millions. He ain't as stupid as you are. |
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| Snoopyrules |
What role might human embryonic stem cells play in treating different diseases?
The most publicized clinical goal of stem cell research is often called "regenerative medicine." This strategy would involve nudging stem cells in the cell culture dish to evolve, or differentiate, into the specialized cells that make up each of the body's tissues. If scientists can meet this challenge, then, theoretically:
Beating-heart cells could be transplanted into diseased or damaged heart tissue.
Dopamine-producing brain cells could replenish those destroyed in Parkinson's patients.
Right now, scientists can observe embryonic stem cells in the culture dish differentiate spontaneously into specialized cells. And they've learned that certain chemicals, or growth factors, can drive the cells to specialize randomly.
But scientists can't yet control the direction in which the cells specialize.
They need to figure out how to control this specialization, so that they can prompt a cell to become, say, a liver cell rather than a heart cell. This requires identifying the many genetic steps that lead a cell to evolve one way or another.
UCSF's Matthias Hebrok and Michael German are working to identify the multiple steps that human embryonic stem cells take on their way to becoming pancreatic islet cells. This research involves studying the genes that turn on and off as a stem cell begins to develop. They have identified some of the key steps in the process, but they need to identify many more.
If they succeed, the payoff could be great and relatively quick.
Today, scientists transplant (from cadaver donors) the full pancreas or individual insulin-producing pancreatic islet cells into patients, with some success. This is partly because UCSF scientist Jeffrey Bluestone, who oversees a major international effort to deliver more effective drugs targeting diabetes and other autoimmune diseases, has developed a drug that reduces rejection of transplanted cells.
The number of organs and cells available from donated cadavers is very limited, however. If scientists had access to a large supply of pancreatic islet cells, there is a strong likelihood that transplant therapy would eventually work in patients. |
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| cecilturtle06 |
President Duh says it's immoral to save the living (e.g. people suffering from Alzheimers, Parkisons, etc), but he'll be damned if someone messes with the embryos.
Hmmm...Thou shalt not kill. Kill who, the living? Or the embryos? |
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| salafibrigades |
| Poor Michael J! He is being used by these sick people for political gain. Shame on them. The Reptilians make us stronger people. Face it, Mr Bush will be our leader for years to come, baruk HaShem. |
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| Snoopyrules |
Human embryonic stem cells emerge five to seven days into the development of the embryo, when it is a hollow sphere made up of approximately 100 to 150 cells. At this stage, the embryo is known as a blastocyst. One portion of the blastocyst contains the "inner cell mass." This is where the embryonic stem cells are.
To obtain the cells, scientists apply chemicals to the embryo, which dissolve its coating, exposing the stem cells. This process destroys the embryo. Some people oppose the use of embryos for research because they consider them living beings.
The embryos that are studied at US universities have been donated for research by patients who have undergone fertility treatments. The embryos were created through in vitro fertilization. The embryos have been left over following the fertility treatments and, depending on the patient's request, would otherwise have been stored indefinitely or discarded |
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| artie's_poptart |
| Wow, what a novelty! Another dumbass thread created by redeye |
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| Ass Boil |
I'm sure Mr. Fox was forced to do the commercial.
The irony is that embryonic stem cell therapy could quite possibly cure redeye of the horrible mental retardation he suffers from.... |
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| kali |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
I'm sure Mr. Fox was forced to do the commercial.
The irony is that embryonic stem cell therapy could quite possibly cure redeye of the horrible mental retardation he suffers from.... |
he may be beyond help, unfortunately for us. |
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| Chocky |
| like Terry Schiavo was exploited? Except Michael isnt brain dead, and he actually seems like he'd be appreciative of the help. |
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| Reed Rothchild |
| Michael J Fox wouldn't have to shill for the Dems and Stem Cell research if you Righties would just pray harder for him. |
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| Robinsmuff |
Little known fact is that Fox actually injected himself with a chemical that he knew would give him Parkinson. He did so 15 years ago all the while knowing that some day he would be able to help the Democrats regain control of the house & Senate if he was diagnosed with an incurrable disease that would allow him to attack the GOP in the future. In fact the commercial spot now seen on the WEB was actually filmed in 1997 while taking a break from his movie career. The entire plan would have been full proof if not for the detective work of the brilliant minds of Limbaugh & Redeye.
Bastards!!!!!!! |
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| mb33139 |
Does redeye ever miss a friggin' edition of hannity or limbaugh? They were talking about Michael today on the radio and BAM!!! Here is the cut and paste.
How typically right wing. Go find an original thought. |
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| halfrican920 |
| Just when you think redeye's posts couldn't get more irrelevant... |
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| redeye |
Excuse me but...
Micheal J. Fox DOES go off of his medications to do certain public appearances. He admitted that. He did it when he spoke before congress to prove his point. The video of MJF looked very similar to how he looked during his congressional speech, maybe a bit worse.
I find it suspicious that, despite under the effects, he keeps constant eye contact & stays in view with the camera. Remeber that he is an actor.
I certainly hope MJF isn't holding off getting something done for his Parkinson's just to promote the cause. Stem cell transplants happen every day and there are other procedures for Parkinson's patients.
Don't you people ever watch the news? Read a newspaper |
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| Ass Boil |
Are you a doctor?
Are you Michael J. Fox?
Then shut the fuck up.
Who are you to tell him what he can and can't do with his own body, or what commercials he can make? |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| He can only make commercials supporting Republican policies you dolt! |
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| iatebethO |
Quote: Originally posted by Robinsmuff
Little known fact is that Fox actually injected himself with a chemical that he knew would give him Parkinson. He did so 15 years ago all the while knowing that some day he would be able to help the Democrats regain control of the house & Senate if he was diagnosed with an incurrable disease that would allow him to attack the GOP in the future. In fact the commercial spot now seen on the WEB was actually filmed in 1997 while taking a break from his movie career. The entire plan would have been full proof if not for the detective work of the brilliant minds of Limbaugh & Redeye.
Bastards!!!!!!! |
And that bastard Christopher Reeve JUMPED off his horse so that he could campaign for Democrats too.
If there was a God everyone of these right wing pukes would get a disease that stem cell research could heal. When it's their ass on the line then their story would change. |
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| Ass Boil |
haha!
Howard just rolled you, browneye....
stupid shit. |
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| Oz |
| redeye, on what grounds are you against stem cell research? |
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| Ass Boil |
| On the grounds that he does not want scientists to find a cure for Republicanism.... |
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| FatesWebb |
Quote: Originally posted by redeye
If I may be blatantly honest, I think Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited by shilling for a Democrat politician. It's a way to mislead voters that there's a cure for Parkinson's disease if only Claire McCaskill gets elected.
If you start making promises to people who suffer from diseases like Parkinson's that there's a cure right around the corner if only somebody gets elected, you are creating a false-hope scenario -- and that is cruel, if you ask me.
MJF Video - click here
Stem cells may cause tumours: US study
October 23, 2006 - 1:09PM
Injecting human embryonic stem cells into the brains of Parkinson's disease patients may cause tumours to form, U.S. researchers reported on Sunday.
Steven Goldman and colleagues at the University of Rochester Medical Center in New York said human stem cells injected into rat brains turned into cells that looked like early tumours.
Writing in the journal Nature Medicine, the researchers said the transplants clearly helped the rats, but some of the cells started growing in a way that could eventually lead to a tumour.
Various types of cell transplants are being tried to treat Parkinson's disease, caused when dopamine-releasing cells die in the brain.
This key neurotransmitter, or message-carrying chemical, is involved in movement and Parkinson's patients suffer muscle dysfunction that can often lead to paralysis. Drugs can slow the process for a while but there is no cure.
The idea behind brain cell transplants is to replace the dead cells. Stem cells are considered particularly promising as they can be directed to form the precise desired tissue and do not trigger an immune response.
Goldman's team used human embryonic stem cells. Taken from days-old embryos, these cells can form any kind of cell in the body. This batch had been cultured in substances aimed at making them become brain cells.
Previous groups have tried to coax stem cells into becoming dopamine-releasing cells.
Goldman's team apparently succeeded and transplanted them into the rats with an equivalent of Parkinson's damage. The animals did get better.
But the grafted cells started to show areas that no longer consisted of dopamine-releasing neurons, but of dividing cells that had the potential to give rise to tumours.
The researchers killed the animals before they could know for sure, and said any experiments in humans would have to be done very cautiously.
Scientists have long feared that human embryonic stem cells could turn into tumours, because of their pliability.
Opponents of embryonic stem cell research cite such threats. Many opponents, including President George W. Bush and some members of Congress, believe it is immoral to destroy human embryos to obtain their stem cells. |
I was going to rip you a new one, but it looks like Billy said it perfectly.
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphilly
The Republicans are exploiting you for your illness right NOW! |
DITTO. |
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| tamboozie |
| That cunt Paul Michael Glassers wife died of A.I.D.s just to make the repubes look bad. |
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| redeye |
An Edwards Outrage
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, October 15, 2004; Page A23
After the second presidential debate, in which John Kerry used the word "plan" 24 times, I said on television that Kerry has a plan for everything except curing psoriasis. I should have known there is no parodying Kerry's pandering. It turned out days later that the Kerry campaign has a plan -- nay, a promise -- to cure paralysis. What is the plan? Vote for Kerry.
This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa:
"If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."
In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsome display of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately, for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflicted is despicable.
Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage?
First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one of the great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around the corner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did, that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians is scandalous.
Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no idea where it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cell research is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative one at that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures for paralysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The last fad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothing came of it.
As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype -- and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cord injuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise instead to concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) with the hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been the snake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I never expected a candidate for vice president to be one of them.
Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented from getting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is a travesty.
George Bush is the first president to approve federal funding for stem cell research. There are 22 lines of stem cells now available, up from one just two years ago. As Leon Kass, head of the President's Council on Bioethics, has written, there are 3,500 shipments of stem cells waiting for anybody who wants them.
Edwards and Kerry constantly talk of a Bush "ban" on stem cell research. This is false. There is no ban. You want to study stem cells? You get them from the companies that have the cells and apply to the National Institutes of Health for the federal funding.
In his Aug. 7 radio address to the nation, Kerry referred not once but four times to the "ban" on stem cell research instituted by Bush. At the time, Reeve was alive, so not available for posthumous exploitation. But Ronald Reagan was available, having recently died of Alzheimer's.
So what does Kerry do? He begins his radio address with the disgraceful claim that the stem cell "ban" is standing in the way of an Alzheimer's cure.
This is an outright lie. The President's Council on Bioethics, on which I sit, had one of the world's foremost experts on Alzheimer's, Dennis Selkoe from Harvard, give us a lecture on the newest and most promising approaches to solving the Alzheimer's mystery. Selkoe reported remarkable progress in using biochemicals to clear the "plaque" deposits in the brain that lead to Alzheimer's. He ended his presentation without the phrase "stem cells" having passed his lips.
So much for the miracle cure. Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem cell researcher at NIH, has admitted publicly that stem cells as an Alzheimer's cure are a fiction, but that "people need a fairy tale." Kerry and Edwards certainly do. They are shamelessly exploiting this fairy tale, having no doubt been told by their pollsters that stem cells play well politically for them.
Politicians have long promised a chicken in every pot. It is part of the game. It is one thing to promise ethanol subsidies here, dairy price controls there. But to exploit the desperate hopes of desperate people with the promise of Christ-like cures is beyond the pale.
There is no apologizing for Edwards's remark. It is too revealing. There is absolutely nothing the man will not say to get elected. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
| i am not a democrat but he probably wanted to do the commercial. of course they are exploiting it but i don't see a problem. he wanted to do it |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
redeye, on what grounds are you against stem cell research? |
hey redeye - take a sec to answer if you don't mind |
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| Ass Boil |
I'm sure browneye and DOUCHE-HERE don't have a problem with Herr Bush handing out hundreds of millions of our tax dollars to failed "faith" based groups who make all kinds of bullshit "christ like" claims....
but real science that could save lives must be bad...
fucking idiots |
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| Monster_Zero |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
hey redeye - take a sec to answer if you don't mind |
If you really want an answer, you should call up the Rush Limpballs show and ask him. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by Monster_Zero
If you really want an answer, you should call up the Rush Limpballs show and ask him. |
I guess that's the thing I'm trying to find out. Redeye never posts his own thoughts and we're supposed to interpret them from transplanting postings taken from Limbaugh's site. I'm not sure why anyone even responds to him since he never offers anything of substance to debate. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
I'm sure browneye and DOUCHE-HERE don't have a problem with Herr Bush handing out hundreds of millions of our tax dollars to failed "faith" based groups who make all kinds of bullshit "christ like" claims....
but real science that could save lives must be bad...
fucking idiots |
no i don't ...they spend the money better and are more sucessful then the government programs. i know you hate that because you don't want anyone getting off heroin or boos if jesus had something to do with it . and if companys want they can do stem cell research . just the goverment is not gonna pay for it and if drug companys really thought it could do anything ..trust me they would ..remember they are a business and money spent today can bring back 10 times that amount in 10 years
so there |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
no i don't ...they spend the money better and are more sucessful then the government programs. i know you hate that because you don't want anyone getting off heroin or boos if jesus had something to do with it . and if companys want they can do stem cell research . just the goverment is not gonna pay for it and if drug companys really thought it could do anything ..trust me they would ..remember they are a business and money spent today can bring back 10 times that amount in 10 years
so there |
You couldn't be more of a hypocrite if you tried. Or more stupid... you don't even understand the argument.
So churches who claim to do a better job than the government, or other social programs DO deserve to receive federal funds, but researchers and doctors who can do a better job than the government DO NOT deserve federal money? Nevermind the fact that most of Bush's faith based programs have been a collosal failure. His abstinence only "faith" based program actually created MORE teen pregnancies.
Please provide proof that the church programs you speak of are more effective. Using your own supposedly "conservative" logic, shouldn't those churches be able to pay for their programs themselves?
you are a joke. |
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| FatesWebb |
Quote: Originally posted by redeye
An Edwards Outrage
By Charles Krauthammer
Friday, October 15, 2004; Page A23
After the second presidential debate, in which John Kerry used the word "plan" 24 times, I said on television that Kerry has a plan for everything except curing psoriasis. I should have known there is no parodying Kerry's pandering. It turned out days later that the Kerry campaign has a plan -- nay, a promise -- to cure paralysis. What is the plan? Vote for Kerry.
This is John Edwards on Monday at a rally in Newton, Iowa: "If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again."
In my 25 years in Washington, I have never seen a more loathsome display of demagoguery. Hope is good. False hope is bad. Deliberately, for personal gain, raising false hope in the catastrophically afflicted is despicable.
Where does one begin to deconstruct this outrage?
First, the inability of the human spinal cord to regenerate is one of the great mysteries of biology. The answer is not remotely around the corner. It could take a generation to unravel. To imply, as Edwards did, that it is imminent if only you elect the right politicians is scandalous.
Second, if the cure for spinal cord injury comes, we have no idea where it will come from. There are many lines of inquiry. Stem cell research is just one of many possibilities, and a very speculative one at that. For 30 years I have heard promises of miracle cures for paralysis (including my own, suffered as a medical student). The last fad, fetal tissue transplants, was thought to be a sure thing. Nothing came of it.
As a doctor by training, I've known better than to believe the hype -- and have tried in my own counseling of people with new spinal cord injuries to place the possibility of cure in abeyance. I advise instead to concentrate on making a life (and a very good life it can be) with the hand one is dealt. The greatest enemies of this advice have been the snake-oil salesmen promising a miracle around the corner. I never expected a candidate for vice president to be one of them.
Third, the implication that Christopher Reeve was prevented from getting out of his wheelchair by the Bush stem cell policies is a travesty.
George Bush is the first president to approve federal funding for stem cell research. There are 22 lines of stem cells now available, up from one just two years ago. As Leon Kass, head of the President's Council on Bioethics, has written, there are 3,500 shipments of stem cells waiting for anybody who wants them.
Edwards and Kerry constantly talk of a Bush "ban" on stem cell research. This is false. There is no ban. You want to study stem cells? You get them from the companies that have the cells and apply to the National Institutes of Health for the federal funding.
In his Aug. 7 radio address to the nation, Kerry referred not once but four times to the "ban" on stem cell research instituted by Bush. At the time, Reeve was alive, so not available for posthumous exploitation. But Ronald Reagan was available, having recently died of Alzheimer's.
So what does Kerry do? He begins his radio address with the disgraceful claim that the stem cell "ban" is standing in the way of an Alzheimer's cure.
This is an outright lie. The President's Council on Bioethics, on which I sit, had one of the world's foremost experts on Alzheimer's, Dennis Selkoe from Harvard, give us a lecture on the newest and most promising approaches to solving the Alzheimer's mystery. Selkoe reported remarkable progress in using biochemicals to clear the "plaque" deposits in the brain that lead to Alzheimer's. He ended his presentation without the phrase "stem cells" having passed his lips.
So much for the miracle cure. Ronald D.G. McKay, a stem cell researcher at NIH, has admitted publicly that stem cells as an Alzheimer's cure are a fiction, but that "people need a fairy tale." Kerry and Edwards certainly do. They are shamelessly exploiting this fairy tale, having no doubt been told by their pollsters that stem cells play well politically for them.
Politicians have long promised a chicken in every pot. It is part of the game. It is one thing to promise ethanol subsidies here, dairy price controls there. But to exploit the desperate hopes of desperate people with the promise of Christ-like cures is beyond the pale.
There is no apologizing for Edwards's remark. It is too revealing. There is absolutely nothing the man will not say to get elected. |
so your point is, that instead of try to find cures, just let the sick die? |
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| FatesWebb |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
no i don't ...they spend the money better and are more sucessful then the government programs. i know you hate that because you don't want anyone getting off heroin or boos if jesus had something to do with it . and if companys want they can do stem cell research . just the goverment is not gonna pay for it and if drug companys really thought it could do anything ..trust me they would ..remember they are a business and money spent today can bring back 10 times that amount in 10 years
so there |
boos?
and it is the CIA that brings the heroin into the country, the same CIA that grandaddy bush worked for. the heroin is why we attacked afghanistan, because the taliban told the northern alliance to stop producing poppy. So we went in there, took over the country, and turned the poppy back on.
now heroin import from afghanistan has gone from about 3% to about 40%
but you support this..... and you complain about boos, and stem cell research.
Anytime you hear
"THE WAR ON" that means it is a lie! whether it is drugs, terrorism, aids, ect.... they make these lies up to get money/funding/backing.... and they dont use the money for what it was given for. |
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| joeyramonestwin |
[QUOTE=redeye]
I find it suspicious that, despite under the effects, he keeps constant eye contact & stays in view with the camera. Remeber that he is an actor.
I hope people "act" like they have some fucking common sense during the next election and get all the stupid motherfuckers like yourself out of office. God I wish it was 2008.... |
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| Snoopyrules |
Quote: Originally posted by redeye
I find it suspicious that, despite under the effects, he keeps constant eye contact & stays in view with the camera. Remeber that he is an actor.
Don't you people ever watch the news? Read a newspaper |
This was a good rule to follow during the Reagan (the bad actor) years. I wish you could have advised back than. |
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| WillowGlen |
I dont know whats worse. That Redeye constantly cuts and pastes Limbaugh material trying to pass it off as his own thoughts. Or that he would continue to post it on a board dedicated to a radio show that played all the same Limbaugh crap this morning proving that he is just an thief devoid of any original thought.
Fucking moron. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Fortunately, I have access to this thing called the Internet and this nifty search engine called Google. A few clicks led me to William J. Weiner M.D., professor and chairman of the department of neurology at the University of Maryland Medical Center. He's also director of the Parkinson's clinic there.
Even better, it turns out Dr. Weiner has a phone. When I reached him, he said he'd seen the ad earlier in the day and was fairly surprised to hear about Limbaugh's reaction. Here's why:
What you are seeing on the video is side effects of the medication. He has to take that medication to sit there and talk to you like that. ... He's not over-dramatizing. ... [Limbaugh] is revealing his ignorance of Parkinson's disease, because people with Parkinson's don't look like that at all when they're not taking their medication. They look stiff, and frozen, and don't move at all. ... People with Parkinson's, when they've had the disease for awhile, are in this bind, where if they don't take any medication, they can be stiff and hardly able to talk. And if they do take their medication, so they can talk, they get all of this movement, like what you see in the ad. |
http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=51219
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| redeye |
Fox’s Foul
A Missouri political ad crosses a line.
In a commercial drowning in false hope and overhype, Michael J. Fox, Claire McCaskill, and their funders don’t mention that stem-cell research — including embryo-destroying research — is already legal and happening not just in Missouri but across the U.S. What they also don’t tell you is that in creating a constitutional right to human cloning, the Missouri amendment is more radical than anything even the United Nations is currently willing to do. The commercial also doesn’t mention that there are some real potential drawbacks to jumping into embryonic-stem-cell research for Parkinson’s patients. Embryonic-stem-cell research is not the panacea its advocates would have you believe.
The campaign in Missouri this fall isn’t the first time we’ve seen such over-the-top rhetoric. When it comes to embryonic-stem-cell research and cloning, politicians have often become snake-oil salesmen. About this time in the 2004 presidential-election cycle, Democratic vice-presidential nominee John Edwards outrageously announced, “If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.”
Republican Jim Talent is in many ways a great candidate to be running against Amendment 2. His own public record speaks to the confusion that surrounds the ballot initiative and the issue in general, having briefly earned the frustration of fellow cloning opponents earlier this year when he withdrew support from a Senate bill that would ban cloning, believing its broad language would shut off some non-embryo-destroying alternative research. That move earlier this year, while wrongheaded, speaks to both how complicated the whole issue is and how, contrary to the Fox implication, Talent (like myriad other cloning opponents) is in fact pro-hope.
Amendment 2 is not a matter of voting for or against sick people. Claire McCaskill should be ashamed for approving a message that suggests such a thing. But apparently she’s comfortable running as just another snake-oil salesman. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| Stem Cells are little tiny babies!!! You are killing them!!! |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by redeye
Fox’s Foul
A Missouri political ad crosses a line.
In a commercial drowning in false hope and overhype, Michael J. Fox, Claire McCaskill, and their funders don’t mention that stem-cell research — including embryo-destroying research — is already legal and happening not just in Missouri but across the U.S. What they also don’t tell you is that in creating a constitutional right to human cloning, the Missouri amendment is more radical than anything even the United Nations is currently willing to do. The commercial also doesn’t mention that there are some real potential drawbacks to jumping into embryonic-stem-cell research for Parkinson’s patients. Embryonic-stem-cell research is not the panacea its advocates would have you believe.
The campaign in Missouri this fall isn’t the first time we’ve seen such over-the-top rhetoric. When it comes to embryonic-stem-cell research and cloning, politicians have often become snake-oil salesmen. About this time in the 2004 presidential-election cycle, Democratic vice-presidential nominee John Edwards outrageously announced, “If we do the work that we can do in this country, the work that we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again.”
Republican Jim Talent is in many ways a great candidate to be running against Amendment 2. His own public record speaks to the confusion that surrounds the ballot initiative and the issue in general, having briefly earned the frustration of fellow cloning opponents earlier this year when he withdrew support from a Senate bill that would ban cloning, believing its broad language would shut off some non-embryo-destroying alternative research. That move earlier this year, while wrongheaded, speaks to both how complicated the whole issue is and how, contrary to the Fox implication, Talent (like myriad other cloning opponents) is in fact pro-hope.
Amendment 2 is not a matter of voting for or against sick people. Claire McCaskill should be ashamed for approving a message that suggests such a thing. But apparently she’s comfortable running as just another snake-oil salesman. |
hey - what is your stance on stem cell research? not someone else's |
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was rush high on oxycontin when he spewed this?
and, the responses, did he hear them? because...he had to have an ear operation because he did so much hillbilly heroin
that's the guy telling the republicans what to say and think..... |
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Vote “No,” Missouri
By The Editors
The pro-cloning ballot initiative in Missouri has a lot going for it: industry backing, celebrity endorsements, bipartisan support, and great press. What it lacks is honesty; and if opponents hammer home that point between now and Election Day, it may yet go down to a richly deserved defeat.
The initiative is being packaged as a way to ban cloning, when in fact it would put a right to clone into the state constitution. The initiative is designed to protect scientists’ ability to create cloned human embryos for use in research. Just five years ago, everyone agreed that this research involved cloning. Supporters tried to build support for it by calling it “therapeutic cloning” or “research cloning.” When those tactics failed, the pro-cloning movement decided to ditch the word “cloning” altogether — and, with remarkable chutzpah, to accuse those of us who keep using the word of being liars. (There are still a few supporters of cloning who, to their credit, have not gone along with this terminological spin; about them, the spinners are silent.)
The initiative doesn’t ban cloning. It bans only the implantation of a cloned embryo into a woman’s womb to initiate a pregnancy. In other words, it outlaws the development of a cloned embryo into a cloned baby: You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research. (If artificial wombs can be made to work, however, the law would allow even for cloned babies.)
Nor is this the end of the cloners’ twisting of language. They do not just deny they are promoting cloning; they do not even want to face up to the fact that what they want to kill is an embryo. In Missouri, the phrase “early stem cell research” is being used. It is a double deception. It ignores the features of this research that make it controversial: its reliance on the cloning and destruction of human embryos. And it implies that the initiative’s opponents are against stem-cell research. In truth, they support research so long as it does not have those objectionable features.
The ads for the initiative claim that this kind of research can cure Alzheimer’s disease: a claim that reputable scientists who support the research say is absurdly unlikely.
The point of this initiative is political. “Stem-cell research” is popular, but cloning isn’t. If this initiative can bamboozle a red state, the theory is, the cause will be unstoppable. It is up to Missouri voters to put the brakes on this dishonest campaign. |
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| I dont know, can you cut and paste another one? |
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| who the fuck are "the editors" ? |
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| The first rule of Project Republican is that you do not ask questions, sir. |
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Quote: Originally posted by Oz
hey - what is your stance on stem cell research? not someone else's |
What is so damned important about embryonic stem cell research? Why not adult stem cells? Why not research cells that can be extracted from the umbilical cord? Because you can't take abortion out of this mix; it is the only thing that you liberals will never compromise on! |
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Its not abortion, retard. It was never in a womb!
Congrats on 1000 posts....without saying a fucking thing. |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
What is so damned important about embryonic stem cell research? Why not adult stem cells? Why not research cells that can be extracted from the umbilical cord? Because you can't take abortion out of this mix; it is the only thing that you liberals will never compromise on! |
Well, it's certainly clear that you have no idea what you're talking about as usual. :rolleyes: |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
What is so damned important about embryonic stem cell research? Why not adult stem cells? Why not research cells that can be extracted from the umbilical cord? Because you can't take abortion out of this mix; it is the only thing that you liberals will never compromise on! |
this doesn't tell me why you're against it other than for political reasons. Do you believe that life begins at 'conception'? What is your major issue with it? |
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Quote: Originally posted by Oz
this doesn't tell me why you're against it other than for political reasons. Do you believe that life begins at 'conception'? What is your major issue with it? |
They have to change that, too...since there was no "conception" in these cases. |
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Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
Its not abortion, retard. It was never in a womb!
Congrats on 1000 posts....without saying a fucking thing. |
You are sick! You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research. Hello!
You libs are so desperate so new your message is Republicans are against Parkinson's disease being cured. This is a price to pay for this type of shit. You would think you libs could figure this out after losing as many elections as you have.
Liberals claim that if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease or spinal paralysis. It's no different than the way they do it in the environmental movement; if you oppose the environmentals, why, you must be for dirty water and dirty air.
Look at the history of the Democrats over the last 25 years & with trying to pull this type of bullshit -- it is not surprising. |
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| why are people against cloning too? what sort of retard says "no cloning!" |
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Why not use adult stem cells instead of using human embryonic stem cells in research?
Human embryonic stem cells are thought to have much greater developmental potential than adult stem cells. This means that embryonic stem cells may be pluripotent—that is, able to give rise to cells found in all tissues of the embryo except for germ cells rather than being merely multipotent—restricted to specific subpopulations of cell types, as adult stem cells are thought to be. |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
You libs are so desperate so new your message is Republicans are against Parkinson's disease being cured. This is a price to pay for this type of shit. You would think you libs could figure this out after losing as many elections as you have.
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Sorry, but this is exactly what you're saying by taking a misguided moral stand to get in the way of potentially saving lives. If the price to save peoples lives and advance science is losing some elections, than I'm ok with that. I would imagine most liberals would be. Our humanity guides us. |
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redeye's right...we should probably just throw away all of those embryonic stem cells...morality should trump human life everyday...could you be more selfish?
p.s. anyone agree, as soon as someone tells me their republican i feel the need to talk slower...like their brain damaged or something...sort of like the way people interact with borat... |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
You are sick! You can create a cloned human embryo as long as you kill it during research. Hello!
You libs are so desperate so new your message is Republicans are against Parkinson's disease being cured. This is a price to pay for this type of shit. You would think you libs could figure this out after losing as many elections as you have.
Liberals claim that if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease or spinal paralysis. It's no different than the way they do it in the environmental movement; if you oppose the environmentals, why, you must be for dirty water and dirty air.
Look at the history of the Democrats over the last 25 years & with trying to pull this type of bullshit -- it is not surprising. |
Do you think that In Vitro procedures are murder? Since, ya know, they enter dozens of embryos into the womans womb hoping that one sticks and fertilizes into a human being...that means she is murdering dozens of tiny babies. And they are cute tiny babies too. Do you support that?
Man you are sick. |
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[QUOTE]Liberals claim that if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease or spinal paralysis. It's no different than the way they do it in the environmental movement; if you oppose the environmentals, why, you must be for dirty water and dirty air.[/QUOT
............................(.)< here fuckface its the worlds smallest violin...and its playing just for you....fucking moron |
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Eat shit, browneye:
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Parkinson Foundation Debunks Limbaugh’s False Smears on Michael J. Fox
Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly attacked actor Michael J. Fox for appearing in television campaign ads promoting stem cell research. Fox, who suffers from Parkinson’s disease, appears “visibly racked by tremors” in the ads.
“He is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Limbaugh told listeners yesterday. “He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”
According to the National Parkinson’s Foundation, Limbaugh has no idea what he’s talking about. The Washington Post reports:
[I]n an interview in Ladies Home Journal’s September edition, Fox said he was taking a medication that causes jerking, fidgeting and other abnormal involuntary movements, known as dyskinesia. Fox said he was taking another medication to lessen those side affects.
An official of the National Parkinson Foundation said movements like those exhibited by Fox are the result of taking medication to treat the disease, which would otherwise result in rigidity.
“When you see someone with those movements, it’s not because they have not taken medication but because they probably have taken medication for some time,” the official said. “If you don’t take the medication, then you freeze.”
Limbaugh continued the assault today, calling Fox’s video “an attack ad” that is “filled with disinformation about embryonic stem cell research.”
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/10/24/rush-stem-cell/
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Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
............................(.)< here fuckface its the worlds smallest violin...and its playing just for you....fucking moron |
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Quote: Originally posted by Snoopyrules
Why not use adult stem cells instead of using human embryonic stem cells in research?
Human embryonic stem cells are thought to have much greater developmental potential than adult stem cells. This means that embryonic stem cells may be pluripotent—that is, able to give rise to cells found in all tissues of the embryo except for germ cells rather than being merely multipotent—restricted to specific subpopulations of cell types, as adult stem cells are thought to be. |
The embryonic stem cell research angle from Fox is pure snake oil, and in violent opposition to one of the leading researchers Fox funds. That researcher is the one who noted Embryonic Stem Cell treatments for Parkinson’s - the supposed research Fox claims Republicans are trying to outlaw - cause tumors. The adult stem cell therapies by the same doctor avoid embryonic cells all together and use the patients own cells to correct the damage. This is the kind of research everyone supports and hopes works. So Fox is either being fooled or playing us as fools. Given he is an actor without a science background I will give him the benefit of the doubt and assume he was sold the snake oil like so many others. But in the end the ads are pure misinformation and lies. This is all the Democrats have to offer America it seems.[b] Too bad the democrats can’t show the same campassion for a 6 month old human being (not a six month old human baby - though one has doubts about that too at times) as they do for an ailing Hollywood star. |
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Quote: Originally posted by Oz
hey - what is your stance on stem cell research? not someone else's |
redeye wouldn't know what his stance his. He hasn't been able to give his own personal opinions for some time. What Rush Dumbbaugh said as played on Howard's show this morning made Rush look like a total fool; a complete uninformed idiot. Maybe for a reality check he needs to have Michael J. Fox and Muhammed Ali on his show. Then that blowhard will learn that maybe doing full research on stem cells isn't so bad after all. |
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| You mean like Republicans, who want every cell cluster to be born out of "compassion", then they are on their own, just waiting for a douchebag Republican to create an unnecessary war to send them off to.... |
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How simple does this have to get before you reactionaries on this board can deal with the content:
#1) Embryonic Stem Cell treatments for Parkinson’s - the supposed research Fox claims Republicans are trying to outlaw - cause tumors
#2) When Fox says that Talent opposes research into "stem cells," he means "embryonic stem cells." And it's because Fox, tragically afflicted Parkinson's Disease, needs a cure. But Fox doesn't let on that, yes, even adult stem cells have yielded treatment for Parkinson's.
Read the testimony of Dr. Dennis Turner, who suffered extreme shaking from 1991-1999 until adult stem cell therapy, conducted by Dr. Michel F. Levesque, helped give him four virtually pain-free years from treatment. Or the research into five Parkinson's patients who demonstrated a 61% increase in physical coordination and lessening of symptoms.
So yes, Mr. Fox, Senator Talent does support stem cells. He supports adult stem cells, he supports research that has yielded positive treatments for Parkinson's patients, and he did it all without requiring the federally-subsidized slaughter of embryoes. Insert the word "embryonic" somewhere into your vitriolic attack against the senator in a last-minute push for Claire McCaskill, and maybe then you can air that commercial. Alas, but perhaps that truthful commercial would be so much less effective.
would argue that Mr. Fox is damaging what has traditionally been a bipartisan effort to address and cure illnesses. And that's the primary point here -- Democrats are politicizing diseases and illnesse.
All you Libs have left is to smear and destroy. You make no points because the facts are the facts. So Bring it on. Throw out more insults & ignore the content.
Liberals claim that if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease or spinal paralysis.
It is unseemly, it is exploitative, and it is downright mean to mislead people who suffer from horrible diseases that there is a cure around the corner -- if only Republicans could be defeated. When will you figure it out that you can't get away with these types of lies anymore. |
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Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
You mean like Republicans, who want every cell cluster to be born out of "compassion", then they are on their own, just waiting for a douchebag Republican to create an unnecessary war to send them off to.... |
Won't you lean how to speak English or go fuck yourself? You are so low in ideology you are reduced to politicizing diseases. How miserable must you be. |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
Won't you lean how to speak English or go fuck yourself? You are so low in ideology you are reduced to politicizing illnesses & diseases. How miseralble must you be. |
Some advice:
If you are going to be the grammar and spelling police, you should have less than 3 errors in that declaration....
fucking retard. |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
How simple does this have to get before you reactionaries on this board can deal with the content:
#1) Embryonic Stem Cell treatments for Parkinson’s - the supposed research Fox claims Republicans are trying to outlaw - cause tumors
#2) When Fox says that Talent opposes research into "stem cells," he means "embryonic stem cells." And it's because Fox, tragically afflicted Parkinson's Disease, needs a cure. But Fox doesn't let on that, yes, even adult stem cells have yielded treatment for Parkinson's.
Read the testimony of Dr. Dennis Turner, who suffered extreme shaking from 1991-1999 until adult stem cell therapy, conducted by Dr. Michel F. Levesque, helped give him four virtually pain-free years from treatment. Or the research into five Parkinson's patients who demonstrated a 61% increase in physical coordination and lessening of symptoms.
So yes, Mr. Fox, Senator Talent does support stem cells. He supports adult stem cells, he supports research that has yielded positive treatments for Parkinson's patients, and he did it all without requiring the federally-subsidized slaughter of embryoes. Insert the word "embryonic" somewhere into your vitriolic attack against the senator in a last-minute push for Claire McCaskill, and maybe then you can air that commercial. Alas, but perhaps that truthful commercial would be so much less effective.
would argue that Mr. Fox is damaging what has traditionally been a bipartisan effort to address and cure illnesses. And that's the primary point here -- Democrats are politicizing diseases and illnesse.
All you Libs have left is to smear and destroy. You make no points because the facts are the facts. So Bring it on. Throw out more insults & ignore the content.
Liberals claim that if you don't embrace their political and cultural agenda, then you're for Parkinson's disease or spinal paralysis.
It is unseemly, it is exploitative, and it is downright mean to mislead people who suffer from horrible diseases that there is a cure around the corner -- if only Republicans could be defeated. When will you figure it out that you can't get away with these types of lies anymore. |
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Parkinson Foundation Debunks Limbaugh’s False Smears on Michael J. Fox
Rush Limbaugh has repeatedly attacked actor Michael J. Fox for appearing in television campaign ads promoting stem cell research. Fox, who suffers from Parkinson’s disease, appears “visibly racked by tremors” in the ads.
“He is exaggerating the effects of the disease,” Limbaugh told listeners yesterday. “He’s moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. … This is really shameless of Michael J. Fox. Either he didn’t take his medication or he’s acting.”
According to the National Parkinson’s Foundation, Limbaugh has no idea what he’s talking about. The Washington Post reports:
[I]n an interview in Ladies Home Journal’s September edition, Fox said he was taking a medication that causes jerking, fidgeting and other abnormal involuntary movements, known as dyskinesia. Fox said he was taking another medication to lessen those side affects.
An official of the National Parkinson Foundation said movements like those exhibited by Fox are the result of taking medication to treat the disease, which would otherwise result in rigidity.
“When you see someone with those movements, it’s not because they have not taken medication but because they probably have taken medication for some time,” the official said. “If you don’t take the medication, then you freeze.”
Limbaugh continued the assault today, calling Fox’s video “an attack ad” that is “filled with disinformation about embryonic stem cell research.” |
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Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Some advice:
If you are going to be the grammar and spelling police, you should have less than 3 errors in that declaration....
fucking retard. |
BWAHAHAHAH!! :funny: :rofl: |
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Rush's own words & he has been proven to be exactly right.
October 23, 2006
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected. I've seen him on Boston Legal. I've seen him on a number of stand-up appearances. I know he's got it; it's pitiable that he has the disease. It is a debilitating disease, and I understand that fully. Just stick with me on this.
All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
Let me just say this about it. The reason I went and grabbed the audio from John Edwards, where he said in 2004 on the campaign trail, "If we can do the work that we can do in this country, the work we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." That was about stem cells, and that was a misleading statement, and it didn't work for the Breck Girl, implying that if it weren't for George W. Bush and his stubbornness on stem cells that we've got a cure for spinal deterioration and injury, and we don't. We do not have anywhere near a cure. We can't we regenerate nerves yet, folks, and that's what has to happen to cure paralysis in the spine. Stem cells do not promise any such thing, nor do they for Parkinson's disease. So the reason that I went and got the Breck Girl to compare it to Michael J. Fox is because I think the intent here is the thing. I think, if I may be blatantly honest, brazenly so, I think this is much more offensive than Hillary's Senate opponent implying that she's ugly.
Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democrat politician. In the process of doing that, creating an impression like John Edwards tried to do that is not reality. Michael J. Fox is using his illness as a way to mislead voters into thinking that their vote for a single United States Senator has a direct impact on stem cell research in Missouri. It doesn't, and it won't. So Mr. Fox is using his illness as another tactic to try to secure the election of a Democrat senator by implying that with her election, that we'll be on the road to stem cell research her opponent opposes and people who suffer from Parkinson's disease as he does will have a cure. It's a negative ad, and negative ads work, and people criticize them all the time as I am doing to this one, but when you see it, there's something wrong about it in the get-go. It's the exploitation of someone's illness. I wonder if this would become a trend and all kinds of illness were being exploited how people would end up reacting to it and feeling about it. So if this was not an act, then I apologize. I've not seen this type of appearance by Michael J. Fox before and that's why it struck me the way it did. But despite all that, I mean it's pitiable and it's very sad anybody has this disease, because it is debilitating in ways that people that don't have it don't even understand. But to exploit it like this in misrepresenting the political agenda of a particular candidate, there's nothing admirable about that.
BREAK TRANSCRIPT
I must share this. I have gotten a plethora of e-mails from people saying Michael J. Fox has admitted in interviews that he goes off his medication for Parkinson's disease when he appears before Congress or other groups as a means of illustrating the ravages of the disease. So lest there be any misunderstanding, we talked about a half hour ago of the commercial that's running for Claire McCaskill featuring Michael J. Fox on what appears to be when he's off his meds. I have never seen him this way and I stated when I was commenting to you about it that he was either off his medication or acting. He is an actor after all, and started hearing from people, "Oh, no, I've seen him on TV this way, this is how the disease has affected him when he's not on his medications." Then the e-mails started coming in saying he's admitted not to taking them in certain circumstances so as to illustrate how the disease affects people. All of which I understand, and I'm not even critical of that. Parkinson's disease is hideous.
Let me just stress once again in what I said in closing this out, that I think this is exploitative in a way that's unbecoming either Claire McCaskill or Michael J. Fox, because in this commercial for Claire McCaskill he's using his illness in a way to mislead voters that there's a cure for Parkinson's disease if only Claire McCaskill gets elected, if only Jim Talent is defeated. And of course it's all about stem cell research, which is a huge ballot initiative in Missouri anyway. I'm sorry, Missoura. He pronounced it Missoura. There are two ways to pronounce my home state, Missouri and Missoura. And Missoura, in certain sectors is the preferred pronunciation. It is a way to relate to certain Missourans. We never say Missourans, we say Missourians. But it's a way to reach out, "I understand you, I know your state" and so forth. There's a lot of politics in the commercial. But Mr. Fox was allowing his illness to be used as a tactic to trying to secure the election of a Democrat senator who is going to somehow, her election is going to lead to the cure for Parkinson disease via stem cell research because her opponent, Jim Talent, opposes it, which is not true. He may oppose embryonic stem cell research, does not oppose adult stem cell research or even cord blood, I don't believe, research, umbilical cord research.
The comparison is obvious, and that is to the Breck Girl, John Edwards, who did the same thing by saying Christopher Reeve will walk again if only John Kerry is elected because we will do the work that needs to be done. And that kind of thing, when you start making false promises to people who suffer from diseases like this that are horrible and debilitating, when you start telling them that there's a cure right around the corner if only somebody gets elected, you are misleading them, you are creating a creating a false-hope scenario, and that is cruel, if you ask me, that is cruel and it is mean to lead people to believe that we are much further along in research than we are. There's nobody involved in the research who is saying we're anywhere near any kind of a cure for spinal disease, paralysis, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's. In fact, the closest we are to Alzheimer's is nicotine. I mean supposedly nicotine will limit or lessen the impact of Alzheimer's down the road. And now they're also saying it about pot, the evil weed.
So let there be no misunderstanding about this. I stand corrected, did not know and had never seen Michael J. Fox in the way I saw him in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. But people have and have seen him say in interviews that he doesn't take his medications when he wants to make an impression to show people just how horrible the disease is. And it's true of all Parkinson's patients. At some point the medication will not work, and the condition will become permanent, and there's nothing pleasant about it. It's one of the most frustrating diseases one can have. Pope had it. It's not pleasant in any way, shape, manner, or form, nor did I mean to implicate that one could easily act it out for the purposes of a commercial. |
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Embryonic stem cells. Embryonic stem cells, which come from the inner cell mass of a human embryo, have the potential to develop into all or nearly all of the tissues in the body. The scientific term for this characteristic is "pluripotentiality."
Adult stem cells. Adult stem cells are unspecialized, can renew themselves, and can become specialized to yield all of the cell types of the tissue from which they originate. Although scientists believe that some adult stem cells from one tissue can develop into cells of another tissue, no adult stem cell has been shown in culture to be pluripotent.
See the difference stink eye |
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White House Falsely Claims New Stem Cell Study ‘Has Not Been Reviewed By Scientists and Bio-Ethicists Yet’
Today, a new study was published that shows embryonic stem cells lines can be created without the destruction of human embryos. Previously, the White House has said they oppose the creation of new stem cell lines because it involved the destruction of embryos.
In today’s New York Times, White House spokeswoman Emily Lawrimore said “Any use of human embryos for research purposes raises serious ethical questions. This technique does not resolve those concerns.” This afternoon, the White House changed their story. Here’s Deputy Press Secretary Dana Perino:
QUESTION: Any decision to perhaps revisit the President’s position on federal funding for stem cell research, in light of this new development that was published yesterday in the journal Nature?
PERINO: …This study today reported in Nature Magazine has not been reviewed by scientists and bio-ethicists yet, but it is one that the President believes deserves a good look. He is encouraged that there are scientists who are continuing to look for innovative ways to do stem cell research that would not involve the destruction of embryos. And so he is going to listen to folks after they have a chance to review the study, but it does hold some promise that they would be able to do that type of research without destruction of a human embryo.
This is false. ThinkProgress spoke with bioethicist Ronald Green, who is an ethics advisor to Robert Lanza, an author of the study. Green said that in order to be published in Nature, the paper went through a rigourous peer review process, which lasted nearly three months.
The study was also reviewed by bioethicts. It was reviewed and approved by the Ethics Advisory Board of Advanced Cell Technology. Also an independent review board was constituted to scrutinize the study, as required by Massachusetts law. |
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Quote: Originally posted by redeye
Rush's own words & he has been proven to be exactly right.
October 23, 2006
BEGIN TRANSCRIPT
Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected. I've seen him on Boston Legal. I've seen him on a number of stand-up appearances. I know he's got it; it's pitiable that he has the disease. It is a debilitating disease, and I understand that fully. Just stick with me on this.
All I'm saying is I've never seen him the way he appears in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances.
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Let me just say this about it. The reason I went and grabbed the audio from John Edwards, where he said in 2004 on the campaign trail, "If we can do the work that we can do in this country, the work we will do when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." That was about stem cells, and that was a misleading statement, and it didn't work for the Breck Girl, implying that if it weren't for George W. Bush and his stubbornness on stem cells that we've got a cure for spinal deterioration and injury, and we don't. We do not have anywhere near a cure. We can't we regenerate nerves yet, folks, and that's what has to happen to cure paralysis in the spine. Stem cells do not promise any such thing, nor do they for Parkinson's disease. So the reason that I went and got the Breck Girl to compare it to Michael J. Fox is because I think the intent here is the thing. I think, if I may be blatantly honest, brazenly so, I think this is much more offensive than Hillary's Senate opponent implying that she's ugly.
Michael J. Fox is allowing his illness to be exploited and in the process is shilling for a Democrat politician. In the process of doing that, creating an impression like John Edwards tried to do that is not reality. Michael J. Fox is using his illness as a way to mislead voters into thinking that their vote for a single United States Senator has a direct impact on stem cell research in Missouri. It doesn't, and it won't. So Mr. Fox is using his illness as another tactic to try to secure the election of a Democrat senator by implying that with her election, that we'll be on the road to stem cell research her opponent opposes and people who suffer from Parkinson's disease as he does will have a cure. It's a negative ad, and negative ads work, and people criticize them all the time as I am doing to this one, but when you see it, there's something wrong about it in the get-go. It's the exploitation of someone's illness. I wonder if this would become a trend and all kinds of illness were being exploited how people would end up reacting to it and feeling about it. So if this was not an act, then I apologize. I've not seen this type of appearance by Michael J. Fox before and that's why it struck me the way it did. But despite all that, I mean it's pitiable and it's very sad anybody has this disease, because it is debilitating in ways that people that don't have it don't even understand. But to exploit it like this in misrepresenting the political agenda of a particular candidate, there's nothing admirable about that.
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I must share this. I have gotten a plethora of e-mails from people saying Michael J. Fox has admitted in interviews that he goes off his medication for Parkinson's disease when he appears before Congress or other groups as a means of illustrating the ravages of the disease. So lest there be any misunderstanding, we talked about a half hour ago of the commercial that's running for Claire McCaskill featuring Michael J. Fox on what appears to be when he's off his meds. I have never seen him this way and I stated when I was commenting to you about it that he was either off his medication or acting. He is an actor after all, and started hearing from people, "Oh, no, I've seen him on TV this way, this is how the disease has affected him when he's not on his medications." Then the e-mails started coming in saying he's admitted not to taking them in certain circumstances so as to illustrate how the disease affects people. All of which I understand, and I'm not even critical of that. Parkinson's disease is hideous.
Let me just stress once again in what I said in closing this out, that I think this is exploitative in a way that's unbecoming either Claire McCaskill or Michael J. Fox, because in this commercial for Claire McCaskill he's using his illness in a way to mislead voters that there's a cure for Parkinson's disease if only Claire McCaskill gets elected, if only Jim Talent is defeated. |
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