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| GyroPyro |
| Giuliani makes his move for the White House. He filed papers with establishing a exploratory committee to see how much money he can raise for his campaign. He'll make an excellent President. I only wish he'd be pro-life and anti-homosexual. Nevertheless, he's gonna be our next President! |
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| FatesWebb |
| yep, he is a 9/11 profiteer, and knew about the collapse of the wtc towers before even the firefighters. and he banned cameras at the wtc as well. sounds like a solid choice, if you want 8 more years of hell. |
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| GyroPyro |
| He led the country during one of its most horrible tragedies. I wish you'd treat 9-11 with more respect. Lives were lost that day. Rudy Giuliani deserves to be our leader. |
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| ihatecabbie |
| Republicans can't win elections. :rolleyes: |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Yeah,Rudy was a great Movie.
Especially when he tackled the quarterback for Georgia Tech whose name was Rudy Alllen. What a coincedence! |
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| GyroPyro |
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
Yeah,Rudy was a great Movie.
Especially when he tackled the quarterback for Georgia Tech whose name was Rudy Alllen. What a coincedence! |
I think Rudy will make an even better President. |
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| artiel |
| He will win if he runs, and although I will have the satisfaction that it will smash the disillusion that he is a great leader, I will be very horrified that he is a VERY VERY dangerous person. He is in the inner circles, he knows what happened on THAT day, and he will never talk. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
He led the country during one of its most horrible tragedies. I wish you'd treat 9-11 with more respect. Lives were lost that day. Rudy Giuliani deserves to be our leader. |
people in nyc thought he was an idiot until 9-11 and he's a party schill with no balls - mccain would have been way better until he sucked off GW in the 04 election and kowtowed to the religious right - f'em both |
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| FatesWebb |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
He led the country during one of its most horrible tragedies. I wish you'd treat 9-11 with more respect. Lives were lost that day. Rudy Giuliani deserves to be our leader. |
OK so on abc video rudy ADMITS that he got the warning to leave the building over 8 hours before it collapsed, but why were the firefighters not given the same warnings? and why should he now after the fact go around on some sorta propaganda world tour profiting off of it? and also why should he have banned cameras and such from the crime scene?
Are you sure he isnt part of the problem posing as part of the solution?
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| GyroPyro |
| You people seem to forget how Rudy cleaned up NYC. NYC was a trash heap when he took over for fuck head Dinkins. Oooh, just because Giuliani ordered all the strip joints and porno shops closed so that families can walk around the streets of NYC without having the pervs creep them, boo-hoo, you're just so mad at him. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
You people seem to forget how Rudy cleaned up NYC. NYC was a trash heap when he took over for fuck head Dinkins. Oooh, just because Giuliani ordered all the strip joints and porno shops closed so that families can walk around the streets of NYC without having the pervs creep them, boo-hoo, you're just so mad at him. |
you think he closed any strip clubs? :rolleyes: - he put up concrete barricades so you can't cross the street - what a genius |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
You people seem to forget how Rudy cleaned up NYC. NYC was a trash heap when he took over for fuck head Dinkins. Oooh, just because Giuliani ordered all the strip joints and porno shops closed so that families can walk around the streets of NYC without having the pervs creep them, boo-hoo, you're just so mad at him. |
I thought conservatives were for non-governmental interaction with business...?
:lol: oh yeah, that's right... it's all bullshit. |
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| GyroPyro |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
you think he closed any strip clubs? :rolleyes: - he put up concrete barricades so you can't cross the street - what a genius |
He didn't put restrictions against strip clubs and peep shows? You weren't one of the many thousands of Liberal jerkoffs who wanted him kicked out of office for reducing the number of porno outlets in and around 42nd Street and Times Square? |
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| GyroPyro |
Quote: Originally posted by artiel
I thought conservatives were for non-governmental interaction with business...?
:lol: oh yeah, that's right... it's all bullshit. |
Sure dude. It shouldn't come as no surprise that exposing pornography to children wouldn't bother you. Sorry. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
He didn't put restrictions against strip clubs and peep shows? You weren't one of the many thousands of Liberal jerkoffs who wanted him kicked out of office for reducing the number of porno outlets in and around 42nd Street and Times Square? |
do you even listen to stern? your viewpoints border on religiously retarded conservative - you are afraid of science, you hate women, gays, you're a xenophobe - you've proven yourself to be clearly paranoid and delusional - I'm sure flight of the bumblebee plays when you beat your pecker in your mom's basement - take down the stryper posters while you're at it |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
Sure dude. It shouldn't come as no surprise that exposing pornography to children wouldn't bother you. Sorry. |
who is exposing porn to children you moron? you had better hate the internet while you're at it - I'm surprised that the mention of HTML and embedded tags doesn't make you go into the fetal position with a bible |
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| Ironpirate |
| Rudy/mccain 08 |
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| GyroPyro |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
do you even listen to stern? your viewpoints border on religiously retarded conservative - you are afraid of science, you hate women, gays, you're a xenophobe - you've proven yourself to be clearly paranoid and delusional - I'm sure flight of the bumblebee plays when you beat your pecker in your mom's basement - take down the stryper posters while you're at it |
whoa, whoa, whoa, what does this have to do with allowing porno shops to operate in high-density commercial districts? Commercial districts whose main economy is the theater, which attracts scores of families. Or maybe you'd rather have porno shops serve as the main economy for NYC and fuck the tourist trade? |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
Sure dude. It shouldn't come as no surprise that exposing pornography to children wouldn't bother you. Sorry. |
That's typical. You take one statement made, and spin it into something else. I don't think there is anyone that would say that children should have to view pornography while walking down the street... on the other hand, there is no need to pass sweeping legislation getting rid of those businesses.
Restrictions on types and locations of advertisement could easily solve any problem. A little discreteness goes a long way. |
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| Ironpirate |
| porno industry is huge and taxed and also men have to jerk off. |
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| GyroPyro |
Quote: Originally posted by artiel
That's typical. You take one statement made, and spin it into something else. I don't think there is anyone that would say that children should have to view pornography while walking down the street... on the other hand, there is no need to pass sweeping legislation getting rid of those businesses.
Restrictions on types and locations of advertisement could easily solve any problem. A little discreteness goes a long way. |
Okay, maybe I skewed the argument in the attempts to make a point, which is that MOST of all the porno shops along 42nd Street had graphic posters and the most seedy element all over them. How can you expect to take your family out to a show and have to navigate around these creeps? Giuliani had to enforce stringent laws against them in order to curb the negative element. In so doing he turned the economy in NYC around. |
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| txcoltfan |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
Nevertheless, he's gonna be our next President! |
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
The GOP will nominate a pro-choice candidate?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. |
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| FatesWebb |
| I think the point is made if you mention rudy, all you get is anarchy. |
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| GyroPyro |
| Don't get me wrong, I love porno, but we're talking about a segment of the industry that was operating without restrictions. There were "buddy booths" in these joints before Giuliani had them removed. BTW, Giuliani created havens for the porno shop to continue its trade in industrial districts and hinterland zones. |
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| FatesWebb |
| how you know about the buddy booths? what th F is a buddy booth? |
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| FatesWebb |
1. buddy booth
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...erm=buddy+booth
A coin-op theatre booth in a nudie shack that has seating accomodations for two, or the same where two people in separate booths can remove a blind or partition between the cubicles. Either way, the purpose is to observe your buddy "enjoying" the film with you.
Jon wanted to go in on a buddy booth with me at the XTC porno hut, but I wasn't in the mood to watch him arc on the video screen. |
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| GyroPyro |
Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
how you know about the buddy booths? what th F is a buddy booth? |
The porno shops/peep shows would advertise "buddy booths" right in the open, in front of families and whomever. What are 'buddy booths?' Exactly what you think they are. |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
1. buddy booth
http://www.urbandictionary.com/defi...erm=buddy+booth
A coin-op theatre booth in a nudie shack that has seating accomodations for two, or the same where two people in separate booths can remove a blind or partition between the cubicles. Either way, the purpose is to observe your buddy "enjoying" the film with you.
Jon wanted to go in on a buddy booth with me at the XTC porno hut, but I wasn't in the mood to watch him arc on the video screen. |
Sounds pretty good if you could take your chick in there.... and they were clean... but I'm sure they're not. |
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| cashflow |
| If I remember corrrectly, didn't new and improved Rudy make the point of divorcing his wife and marrying his longtime mistress after 9/11? |
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| clonetrooper |
Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
OK so on abc video rudy ADMITS that he got the warning to leave the building over 8 hours before it collapsed, but why were the firefighters not given the same warnings? and why should he now after the fact go around on some sorta propaganda world tour profiting off of it? and also why should he have banned cameras and such from the crime scene?
Are you sure he isnt part of the problem posing as part of the solution?
FatesWebb |
Lets go to the videotape. Post it. Don't throw that out there without proof. |
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| artiel |
C'mon fates, come with the vid.
I've never seen it, and I'm curious as to what exactly he says. |
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| Oz |
| what fates is talking about is the emergency command center for the mayor was in building 8 - I don't recall exactly but he was either told to not go there or never went there in the first place - um, that would be why he's still alive today |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
people in nyc thought he was an idiot until 9-11 and he's a party schill with no balls - mccain would have been way better until he sucked off GW in the 04 election and kowtowed to the religious right - f'em both |
Thats odd....I seem to remember him being RE-Elected in 1997ish?? Funny, I'm pretty sure that it was pre 9/11/01.... :rolleyes: |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Thats odd....I seem to remember him being RE-Elected in 1997ish?? Funny, I'm pretty sure that it was pre 9/11/01.... :rolleyes: |
er yeah - he sure did - I'm not saying the guy is satan - but in what is perceived as the lesser of two evils (him and Messinger) "evil" still wins - you can't trust a guy that pushed to suspend the election so he could retain his mayorship - hell, even I at the time though "what a great idea" - but in retrospect how is he above the law? he's a schill - |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
people in nyc thought he was an idiot until 9-11 and he's a party schill with no balls - mccain would have been way better until he sucked off GW in the 04 election and kowtowed to the religious right - f'em both |
not an idiot. they thought he was a dictator who helped turn NYC into the capital of the world and Times Square into a place you could bring families again. He forced people to work, cut back on welfare, helped get rid of the mob, get rid of the scum hanging out on the streets like the window cleaners who used piss on your windows and forced you to pay them or threatened violence. He moved the homeless somewhere, just out of sight of all NY'rs. I always Giuliani even before he became a god after 9/11.
Giuliani showed how to lead, your boy Nagin in New orleans is a fucking putz who did nothing and blamed the government for not helping. |
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| FatesWebb |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
what fates is talking about is the emergency command center for the mayor was in building 8 - I don't recall exactly but he was either told to not go there or never went there in the first place - um, that would be why he's still alive today |
actually it was building 7 that his emergency command center was in. |
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| Stickman |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
what fates is talking about is the emergency command center for the mayor was in building 8 - I don't recall exactly but he was either told to not go there or never went there in the first place - um, that would be why he's still alive today |
Nope,
He's alive today because WTC 7 was evacuated very early in the day. He was never in any danger. He would still be alive even if he stayed in WTC 7 because then the order to demo it would not have been given unless he was out of there.
Anyone who thinks that WTC 7 collapsed because of damage from the fall of the towers either has never seen the distance between the towers and WTC 7 or hasn't studied the situation very closely. |
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| Reed Rothchild |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
I only wish he'd be pro-life and anti-homosexual. Nevertheless, he's gonna be our next President! |
Giuliani is unlikely to win a Republican nomination for those very reasons. If the christian conservatives still dominate the party in 08, it will more likely be McCain. Of course, McCain is unfit for the presidency cause he adopted a dark skinned child. |
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| GyroPyro |
| The Democunts have weak candidates. Giuliani will ass fuck them with or without the christian conservatives. Many Democrats are going to vote for Rudy over 'Hell'ary. |
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| Chris Tucker |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
He led the country during one of its most horrible tragedies. |
New York is not the country, stupid. |
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| Ranger BobO |
Quote: Originally posted by Chris Tucker
New York is not the country, stupid. |
Pathetic. :rolleyes: |
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| Jack Shit |
Anyone who thinks Giuliani will be the GOP nominee is a fucking fool.
Pro choice, pro gun control, pro gay rights, told wife he was leaving her when she was lying in a hospital bed with cancer, taken to court to stop him from living in Gracie Mansion with his wife, children AND mistress. :funny: |
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| Hater |
| Gyro, are you really an idiot or this is just your SFN schtick? |
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| Jack Shit |
Quote: Originally posted by GyroPyro
The Democunts have weak candidates. Giuliani will ass fuck them with or without the christian conservatives. Many Democrats are going to vote for Rudy over 'Hell'ary. |
:rolleyes: Elections have consequences. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Rudy took the homeless off the streets and replaced them with tourists.
:D |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull
Rudy took the homeless off the streets and replaced them with tourists.
:D |
great campaign slogan. Can just see the video. SHow scenes of NY like in Taxi Driver with strip clubs, hookers, drugs and homeless people and than show times square now. |
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| bjstet |
| he won't make it past the republican primary |
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| BeerPal |
| I like to think this nation has had enough of the Republican agenda for awhile. Plus the fact that Iraq is only going to spin completely out of control and we all know who is responsible for that. I think we'll find that a Republican is unelectable in 2008. |
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| angrychink |
| they can't get away from bush fast enough |
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| Psychomike |
Here's the facts:
35% of registered Dems say they would cross over to vote for him if the election were held today
Many people saw the Dems response to Katrina and remembered his response to 911. The Dems can't handle it.
He wisely kept himself far away from Bush.
I believe he and Rice would smash Hillary- and the Dems got nothing else. |
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| angrychink |
rice is even more of an empty head than bush
but, she speaks better (mostly because she memorizes the talking points better) |
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| Pussah2 |
Quote: Originally posted by BeerPal
I like to think this nation has had enough of the Republican agenda for awhile. Plus the fact that Iraq is only going to spin completely out of control and we all know who is responsible for that. I think we'll find that a Republican is unelectable in 2008. |
all of his social issues are democrat |
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| angrychink |
aren't most peoples?
except for the fundy repukes? |
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| Shocker54 |
| I think I take almost anybody to be president over Hillary Clinton. I sware if she won I would move out of this country until her term was up. |
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| angrychink |
| thank god you're leaving then |
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| Psychomike |
He is pro abortion, as is 56% of the republican party (believe it or not, its about the same figure as Dems who support abortion).
But not since Eisenhower have so many people said in polls they would vote for Rudy.
Like him or not, ya gotta admit that's incredible.
His personal past can't be brought up by the Dems anyway.
Because then Hillary's past becomes fair game.
The Dems are so screwed. |
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| angrychink |
bush = 31% DISAPPROVAL RATING
that's all that needs to be said |
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| BeerPal |
Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
bush = 31% DISAPPROVAL RATING
that's all that needs to be said |
Make that a 31% approval rating |
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| wendy |
| rudi compared Bush to Churchill..case CLOSED |
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| wendy |
| rudi compared Bush to Churchill..case CLOSED |
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| mgraczyk71 |
Quote: Originally posted by Psychomike
He is pro abortion, as is 56% of the republican party (believe it or not, its about the same figure as Dems who support abortion).
But not since Eisenhower have so many people said in polls they would vote for Rudy.
Like him or not, ya gotta admit that's incredible.
His personal past can't be brought up by the Dems anyway.
Because then Hillary's past becomes fair game.
The Dems are so screwed. |
why do people call it pro abortion instead of pro choice? i never understood that |
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| FatesWebb |
Quote: Originally posted by mgraczyk71
why do people call it pro abortion instead of pro choice? i never understood that |
because they are for the right to choose, given circumstances... nobody is pro abortion. |
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| mgraczyk71 |
Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
because they are for the right to choose, given circumstances... nobody is pro abortion. |
i just think it's stupid for people to assume that if people aren't pro life then they must be pro abortion.
sorry didn't mean to hijack the post it just bothers me when people say that because it shows ignorance. anyway carry on |
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| sfgirl |
| What's his platform on foreign policy? :dontknow: |
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