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| Ass Boil |
If the Taliban is all gone, as our Bush loving whores will have us think, why are we hearing more and more stories like this?
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Disembowelled, then torn apart: The price of daring to teach girls
By Kim Sengupta in Ghazni, Afghanistan
Published: 29 November 2006
The gunmen came at night to drag Mohammed Halim away from his home, in front of his crying children and his wife begging for mercy.
The 46-year-old schoolteacher tried to reassure his family that he would return safely. But his life was over, he was part-disembowelled and then torn apart with his arms and legs tied to motorbikes, the remains put on display as a warning to others against defying Taliban orders to stop educating girls.
Mr Halim was one of four teachers killed in rapid succession by the Islamists at Ghazni, a strategic point on the routes from Kabul to the south and east which has become the scene of fierce clashes between the Taliban and US and Afghan forces.
The day we arrived, an Afghan policemen and eight insurgents died during an ambush in an outlying village. Rockets were found, primed to be fired into Ghazni City during a visit by the American ambassador a few days previously.
But, as in the rest of Afghanistan, it is the civilians who are bearing the brunt of this conflict. At the village of Qara Bagh, the family of Mr Halim are distraught and terrified. His cousin, Ahmed Gul, shook his head: "They killed him like an animal. No, no. We do not kill animals like that, it would be haram. They took away a father and a husband, they had no pity. We are all very worried. Please go now, you see those men standing over there? They are watching. It is dangerous for you, and for us."
Fatima Mushtaq, the director of education at Ghazni, has had repeated death threats, the notorious "night letters". Her gender, as well as her refusal to send girls home from school, has made her a particular source of hatred for Islamist zealots.
"I think they killed him that way to frighten us, otherwise why make a man suffer so much? Mohammed Halim and his family were good friends of ours and we are very, very upset by what has happened. He came to me when the threats first began and asked what he should do. I told him to move somewhere safe. I think he was trying to arrange that when they came and took him," she said.
The threats against Ms Mushtaq also extend to her husband, Sayyid Abdul, and their eight children. "When the first letters arrived, I tried to hide them from my husband," she said. "But then he found the next few. He said we must stand together. We talked, and we decided that we must tell the children. So that they can be prepared, but it is not a good way for them to grow up."
Ms Mushtaq is familiar with the ways of the Taliban. During their rule she and her sister ran secret schools for girls at their home. The Taliban beat them for teaching the girls algebra.
http://news.independent.co.uk/world...icle2023831.ece
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| Mr Zaremba |
| The only place the Taliban are gone from is the front page and lead story |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Mr Zaremba
The only place the Taliban are gone from is the front page and lead story |
That's because the CIA has used them for what they needed to do, be scapegoats for 9/11.
Now they don't need the Taliban until they need to blow up another national landmark. |
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| FatesWebb |
| did you know that there wasnt just 1 flight during the grounding after 9/11 there were 2. one of them had taliban on board. the other had bin ladens and saudi royals. |
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| Stickman |
Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
did you know that there wasnt just 1 flight during the grounding after 9/11 there were 2. one of them had taliban on board. the other had bin ladens and saudi royals. |
FW, please post the link to the taliban story. Being in C. Florida I'm well familiar with the BL flights out of Tampa. I haven't heard about taliban though. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stickman
FW, please post the link to the taliban story. Being in C. Florida I'm well familiar with the BL flights out of Tampa. I haven't heard about taliban though. |
I have yet to hear a good right-wing spin on this.
What explanation, if any, have they offered for this particular madness? |
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| Stickman |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
I have yet to hear a good right-wing spin on this.
What explanation, if any, have they offered for this particular madness? |
They have explained. The gov't was concerned for their safety. I'm pretty sure that's what Richard Clarke explains in Against All Enemies. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stickman
They have explained. The gov't was concerned for their safety . I'm pretty sure that's what Richard Clarke explains in Against All Enemies. |
That's RIGHT! The government was CONCERNED FOR BIN LADEN'S FAMILY'S SAFETY!!!!!
But they certainly weren't concerned about the safety of the thousands of lives lost in WTC!?
And they certainly weren't concerned about the safety of the homeless and destitute in New Orleans!?
Boy!!!!! Gotta love the great bang up job Bush has been doing so far! WOW! I wish he could run for a third term..... |
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| jasonsuperman75 |
It is true that the Anti Coalition Members (ACM) do not want to educate the girls, and do blow up and threaten people who run girls schools. Many of the ones that are the real pain in the ass, are from Pakistan. This place is full of chaos, it is a fine line between the bad guys and local nationals.
For those people that think I need to stay here, my answer to you is we are only getting in the way, and actually strenghtening the cause of the ACM. There are whole provences that are mainly "Taliban". Who are we as a nation to force change upon other countries? The main threat to us in the USA has been broken apart, we need to move towards education so people can make their own choices, not violence.
If we continue to force our way of life on both Afghanistan and Iraq, we are only creating more hate towards the USA, and ultimately the fall of our great country. It should be up to the people of both countries to decide their own fate. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by jasonsuperman75
It is true that the Anti Coalition Members (ACM) do not want to educate the girls, and do blow up and threaten people who run girls schools. Many of the ones that are the real pain in the ass, are from Pakistan. This place is full of chaos, it is a fine line between the bad guys and local nationals.
For those people that think I need to stay here, my answer to you is we are only getting in the way, and actually strenghtening the cause of the ACM. There are whole provences that are mainly "Taliban". Who are we as a nation to force change upon other countries? The main threat to us in the USA has been broken apart, we need to move towards education so people can make their own choices, not violence.
If we continue to force our way of life on both Afghanistan and Iraq, we are only creating more hate towards the USA, and ultimately the fall of our great country. It should be up to the people of both countries to decide their own fate. |
A beautiful sentiment.....
We can't even find the money to educate our kids here in the USA let alone fund kids to educate in Iraq....
Maybe China will let Bush borrow another 3 trillion dollars..... |
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| eyegore62 |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
A beautiful sentiment.....
We can't even find the money to educate our kids here in the USA let alone fund kids to educate in Iraq....
Maybe China will let Bush borrow another 3 trillion dollars..... |
We can find the money, and provide the money, read the budgets.... In California, where you live, if I recall, the 2007 state budget for education is over $40 billion dollars, just for K-12. $40 billion, almost 1/3 of the entire state budget.
That said, I cannot argue with the fact that the Bush administration has, to the disappointment of conservatives, spent like a drunken sailor.. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by eyegore62
We can find the money, and provide the money, read the budgets.... In California, where you live, if I recall, the 2007 state budget for education is over $40 billion dollars, just for K-12. $40 billion, almost 1/3 of the entire state budget.
That said, I cannot argue with the fact that the Bush administration has, to the disappointment of conservatives, spent like a drunken sailor.. |
What's the budget been before 2007?
You know our Governor Schwarzenpecker has been trying to rape the school budget for years now right? Everytime he tries to take money from the budget, the people slap him down..... |
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| eyegore62 |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
What's the budget been before 2007?
You know our Governor Schwarzenpecker has been trying to rape the school budget for years now right? Everytime he tries to take money from the budget, the people slap him down..... |
not the people, Don Perata and his legislature, and the school unions. Throwing more money at a system as poor as the California educational system has not worked. If your wife spends and spends, but nothing good comes of it, do you give her more money?
By the way, I like your avatar with the tree.... |
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