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| joetissirius |
| what's a guy to do? sixers suck, flyers blow!!! 2 organizations in sports that have officially hit the wall. looking forward to spring traing for the first time in many years. :( :( |
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| JBEEZEE |
| WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Who gives a shit! :sleepin: :suicide: |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| I hear ya..i use to go to 20 some flyers games a year....not worth it this year..sixers did the right thing its just going to take awhile.....phillies are going to be very good..i hope....they are saying howard wants soriano type money.....ya gotta pay..and dump pat the bats big salary.....i am joining the y and learning how to play racketball to stay busy......it does suck this year.... |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
I hear ya..i use to go to 20 some flyers games a year....not worth it this year..sixers did the right thing its just going to take awhile.....phillies are going to be very good..i hope....they are saying howard wants soriano type money.....ya gotta pay..and dump pat the bats big salary.....i am joining the y and learning how to play racketball to stay busy......it does suck this year.... |
he'll get the money load and be locked in here at least for 5 years. we should see a world series in the howard era |
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| timdawg6 |
Howard isnt up for aribtration until 2 years. We will have to pay Chase firsrt.
You need to check out big Five basketball, nothing like those games. Go to a nova game hot bitches galore |
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| WhiteBoy |
| Pitchers and catchers report in about a month |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| The Phillies organization is damn lucky they have Howard and Utley. Utley and Howard are the only bright spotsthe Phillies have in their everyday lineup. One of them will not be around when they are eligible for free agency and free to sign with another team. |
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| WhiteBoy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
The Phillies organization is damn lucky they have Howard and Utley. Utley and Howard are the only bright spotsthe Phillies have in their everyday lineup. One of them will not be around when they are eligible for free agency and free to sign with another team. |
Rollins is a better than average SS and Rowand is a good player.....plus they have one of the top rotations in the NL.
I wouldn't say they are lucky |
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| timdawg6 |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
The Phillies organization is damn lucky they have Howard and Utley. Utley and Howard are the only bright spotsthe Phillies have in their everyday lineup. One of them will not be around when they are eligible for free agency and free to sign with another team. |
Never happen. And we have many bright spots in our lineup. Victrino is starting to come along. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by timdawg6
Howard isnt up for aribtration until 2 years. We will have to pay Chase firsrt.
You need to check out big Five basketball, nothing like those games. Go to a nova game hot bitches galore |
you're right about the big five. been to a few of them games |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
The Phillies organization is damn lucky they have Howard and Utley. Utley and Howard are the only bright spotsthe Phillies have in their everyday lineup. One of them will not be around when they are eligible for free agency and free to sign with another team. |
hopefully it won't be with the mets. but we need a phillie for life. i know it's rare nowadays, and all the owners of the phillies care about one thing, their bottom line, but they owe it to us dammit!!!!!!!!! |
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| A.Lange=Crazy |
| The Phillies know Utley and Howard are the future of the team. They will lock them up for many years like the Mets did with Reyes and Wright. Utley will get his big deal at the end of this season and Howard will get his 2 years from now. Both of them are still under arbritration so we don't have to give them a long term deal right now. With Hamels and Myers in the rotation with Utley and Howard in the lineup we have a bright future. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| my buddy lives next to cole in west chester says he is really cool guy.....went to afrcia to build houses this offseason with his wife for africans.......love the big 5 my dad went to nova...chicks are really nice and daddy is always loaded..... hope we keep both..we cant wait till 08 on howard it will be too late by then......i agree about victorino is coming arond.....just need a number five hitter..i cant take pat looking at strike 3 anymore it drives me nuts.... |
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| timdawg6 |
| Nothing like Pat the Bat with that dumb ass look on his face as strike three goes right down the middle or the change up fools the shit out of him. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
Quote: Originally posted by WhiteBoy
Rollins is a better than average SS and Rowand is a good player.....plus they have one of the top rotations in the NL.
I wouldn't say they are lucky |
Rollins, I'll agree with, even though he is a terrible leadoff hitter. I'll chalk that up to it's not him writing out the lineup card. Rowand I totally disagree with. Other than running into a wall and saving a game during a rain shortened win, he is nothing special at all. Too many strikeouts in the Phillies line-up and with no protection for Howard in the lineup, they will not score as many runs as you might think. They have improved their starting rotation from what they have had in the past. But while their staff has gotten better, so has a few other teams in the NL. Their best chance at the playoffs was the last two years and they couldn't get over the hump. The only thing they can pin their hopes on is that the Mets starting rotation falls apart (Pedro injured, Glavine old man) and they can win the East. Winning the division is their only ticket to the playoffs. |
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| A.Lange=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
Rollins, I'll agree with, even though he is a terrible leadoff hitter. I'll chalk that up to it's not him writing out the lineup card. Rowand I totally disagree with. Other than running into a wall and saving a game during a rain shortened win, he is nothing special at all. Too many strikeouts in the Phillies line-up and with no protection for Howard in the lineup, they will not score as many runs as you might think. They have improved their starting rotation from what they have had in the past. But while their staff has gotten better, so has a few other teams in the NL. Their best chance at the playoffs was the last two years and they couldn't get over the hump. The only thing they can pin their hopes on is that the Mets starting rotation falls apart (Pedro injured, Glavine old man) and they can win the East. Winning the division is their only ticket to the playoffs. |
Are best chance to make the playoffs is this year. This is the best team we have had the last 5-10 years. Burrell will surprise many of you guys this year and will have a good year. Pitching wins champsionships and right now we have one of the best rotations in the nl. Are only weakest right now is are bullpen and we have some players to trade in Lieber, prospects for bullpen help. Even if we don't win the division we still have a good chance to win the wild card. Rollins might not have a high obp, but he is still one of the better ss's in the league as he always is in the top 10 in runs and stolen bases. Name better teams than the Phillies that won't win their division. The Dodgers should win the west, St. Louis the central, and we have a good shot to win the east. Teams like the Giants, Padres, Astros, Braves, and Cubs will compete for the wc, but right now I would say we have a better team than all of them. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| this is by far our best team in years...and rowand might not hit 310 but he adds a presence on and of the field that this team needed also great defensive center fielder.....hope to win the divsion..but the wildcard will be wide open again this year..... |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
this is by far our best team in years...and rowand might not hit 310 but he adds a presence on and of the field that this team needed also great defensive center fielder.....hope to win the divsion..but the wildcard will be wide open again this year..... |
i think rowand will come on strong this year. i think the injuries affected his swing |
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| WhiteBoy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
Rollins, I'll agree with, even though he is a terrible leadoff hitter. I'll chalk that up to it's not him writing out the lineup card. Rowand I totally disagree with. Other than running into a wall and saving a game during a rain shortened win, he is nothing special at all. Too many strikeouts in the Phillies line-up and with no protection for Howard in the lineup, they will not score as many runs as you might think. They have improved their starting rotation from what they have had in the past. But while their staff has gotten better, so has a few other teams in the NL. Their best chance at the playoffs was the last two years and they couldn't get over the hump. The only thing they can pin their hopes on is that the Mets starting rotation falls apart (Pedro injured, Glavine old man) and they can win the East. Winning the division is their only ticket to the playoffs. |
Not score runs??? They led the league in runs last season.
Victorino may lead off this season, allowing Manual to drop Rollins to 2nd or 5th in the lineup.
And the rotation has a chance to be real good. Hamels is going to be a stud, real soon.
And as much shit as Burrell gets (and he deserves it for all the called 3rd strikes), he does hit 30 hrs and drive in 100.
It seems like there are a bunch of Phillies fans here, what is your ideal batting order? Mine:
Victorino
Rollins
Utley
Howard
Burrell
Helms
Rowand
Ruiz/Coste
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| A.Lange=Crazy |
| Thats my lineup too. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| l like that lineup but would not mind getting someone for 5 and move pat down one...but i would love to see all that speed up top....runs wont be the problem osing 4 run leads late with no pen could be...but i think we can find some warm bodies still... |
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| roadheadsamazin |
| Yeah our Philly teams are doing horrible. Sixers and Flyers are terrible. Mabe the Wings will be good. HaHa. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
Quote: Originally posted by WhiteBoy
Not score runs??? They led the league in runs last season.
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They led the league in runs, true. But you need to subtract Abreu's 60 runs scored in almost 100 games and that puts them in 5th in the league in runs scored. How did the Phillies replace Abreu's numbers for their 2007 team? And the lineups you pose having Howard hitting fourth and Burrell hitting fifth would beg me to pitch around Howard. Don't forget the last couple of series with Washington and Florida, when they owned Howard (who was red hot going into the final week of the season.) In order for Howard to have anything near the season he had last year he needs to get the Barry Bonds eye and maximize the 3 or 4 quality pitches he'll se during a game. Burrell does put up good numbers but he leaves alot of runners on base with his backwards K's. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
They led the league in runs, true. But you need to subtract Abreu's 60 runs scored in almost 100 games and that puts them in 5th in the league in runs scored. How did the Phillies replace Abreu's numbers for their 2007 team? And the lineups you pose having Howard hitting fourth and Burrell hitting fifth would beg me to pitch around Howard. Don't forget the last couple of series with Washington and Florida, when they owned Howard (who was red hot going into the final week of the season.) In order for Howard to have anything near the season he had last year he needs to get the Barry Bonds eye and maximize the 3 or 4 quality pitches he'll se during a game. Burrell does put up good numbers but he leaves alot of runners on base with his backwards K's. |
While you make some good points jim..abreu is not the problem...before we traded him last year nothing...then we start playing... i dont know the numbers off hand.. i and drunk and stoned as well..but abreu..while a decent player is a clubhouse nightmare..lazy or whatever..plus we can get shane into the lineup and he has more speed and glove but yes less bat..howard will see fewer pitches this year..but hopeful it wont all be on him this time...
love this thread lets keep it going..mets suck.... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
love this thread lets keep it going..mets suck.... |
Why dont you guys make the playoffs first, then talk.....
Philly fans were just as high on their team last year, and like normal they shit the bed down the stretch.
When was the last time you even made the postseason?
1993?
Now tell me who sucks? |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Why dont you guys make the playoffs first, then talk.....
Philly fans were just as high on their team last year, and like normal they shit the bed down the stretch.
When was the last time you even made the postseason?
1993?
Now tell me who sucks? |
take away the mets playoff run last year, i'm not sure, but i think overall the phillies have had better seasons. i just woke up, didn't have my coffe(i'm starting to feel my age)and i don't want to google that info. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Why dont you guys make the playoffs first, then talk.....
Philly fans were just as high on their team last year, and like normal they shit the bed down the stretch.
When was the last time you even made the postseason?
1993?
Now tell me who sucks? |
yeh just cause you made it last year...the yankees you are not.....you guys have a good team lots of speed at the top of the lineup..but lots of question marks....i agree about shitting the bed but they were a young team and i think you learn from a stretch run like that...so in closing we all suck...but i live in philly so mets suck more.....sixers better not start winning..i want oden..... |
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| WhiteBoy |
1 down...1 to go
Utley agrees to seven-year, $85M extension ESPN.com news services
Chase Utley might be the best second baseman in the National League. Now, the Phillies are paying him as such.
Utley and the Phillies agreed to a seven-year, $85 million extension Sunday, avoiding salary arbitration. The extension covers the final three arbitration seasons for Utley and his first four seasons of free agency. The deal is contingent on Utley passing a physical.
"We view Chase as not only a great second baseman but also one of the top 10-15 players in the game," Phillies assistant general manager Ruben Amaro Jr. said. "He's a hard-nosed, full-throttle player who exemplifies the spirit of Philadelphia. He is tailor-made for this city and we couldn't be happier to lock him up for years to come."
Utley, who made $500,000 in 2006, hit .309 last season with 40 doubles, 32 home runs, 102 RBIs and 131 runs. He also had a 35-game hitting streak that tied for the 10th-longest in major league history and longest by a second baseman.
Utley also became the 15th player in major league history -- and second Phillie -- to hit .300, and record 200 hits, 30 home runs, 100 RBIs, 40 doubles and 130 runs in one season. He and Hall of Famer Chuck Klein (1930 and 1932) are the only Phillies to accomplish the feat.
Over the past two seasons, Utley leads all major league second basemen in home runs (57), RBIs (197), hits (350) and runs (217). He was Philadelphia's first-round pick in the 2000 draft |
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| sixers610 |
Quote: Originally posted by JBEEZEE
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Who gives a shit! :sleepin: :suicide: |
if you don't care, why did you open the thread? you clearly knew what it was about..
Anyways, I agree, this is not a good time for sports fans in Philadelphia... and I have no reason to think that the Phillies will be any better this year. |
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| WhiteBoy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
They led the league in runs, true. But you need to subtract Abreu's 60 runs scored in almost 100 games and that puts them in 5th in the league in runs scored. How did the Phillies replace Abreu's numbers for their 2007 team? And the lineups you pose having Howard hitting fourth and Burrell hitting fifth would beg me to pitch around Howard. Don't forget the last couple of series with Washington and Florida, when they owned Howard (who was red hot going into the final week of the season.) In order for Howard to have anything near the season he had last year he needs to get the Barry Bonds eye and maximize the 3 or 4 quality pitches he'll se during a game. Burrell does put up good numbers but he leaves alot of runners on base with his backwards K's. |
I'll bet you Victorino replaces many of Abreu's runs.
And Helms is an offensive upgrade at 3rd, which will add a few more runs.
Scoring isn't the issue......as AssFace said, its going to be protecting those late inning leads.
The NL East will be tight again this year.....the Mets have a loaded lineup, but the starting rotation is weak.........the Marlins have a ton of young arms..............and the Phils appear to have their best team in many years.
Can't wait til April! |
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| WhiteBoy |
| This thread was originally about winter sports in Philly and we end up talking about the Phillies............that shows how bad the Sixers and Flyers really are :( |
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| timdawg6 |
| Chase Utley 85 MIllion dollar extension. Howard will be up next year making way over 100 mill maybe even 200 |
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| Hey Now MoFo |
| The Flyers are unwatchable, and the Sixers just suck. So I am looking forward to the Phillies and the NFL draft. Golf starts again which can hold me over. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
Victorino suprisingly got over 400 AB's last year and scored 70 runs. While good numbers for Victorino be careful not to put him up on a pedastool yet, a problem that many sports fans have.
Abreu, "a clubhouse nightmare" as you put it, put up consistant numbers every year. I am a numbers guy and you need to fill those numbers that you were assured he put up. Helms and Victorino combined may put up close to those but it is no guarantee. My point is that a "clubhouse nightmare" does still have value to a team on the field, while maybe not off of it.
I can't understand the nature of some fans. They want to get rid of the "clubhouse nightmares" in the player uniforms, but embrace a "clubhouse nightmare" in the managerial position like Larry Bowa. While Charlie Manual has made numerous mistakes during the course of the past 2 seasons, every manager does, the players clearly like playing for him. I think he has received over the top harsh criticism from some fans (led by a sports talk station that doesn't like the way a good ole boy from W Virginia talks) that want him fired. But if I am a modern day player I want a manager to give me a little kick in the pants but with more encouragement, not a guy that will show you up in the dugout and flip out at every little misstep along the way.
I like that the Phillies took care of Utley but I hope that it wasn't given a little too early in his playing career.
The bottom line is that the Phillies, in my opinion, can only reach the playoffs by winning the East. Too many other teams have gotten better in the National League. |
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| timdawg6 |
| Good points there. But sometimes no matter how good the player is they have to go. Bobby put up huge numbers and we will miss him. However sometimes its addition by subtraction and we have to part ways. |
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| JokeyTheJackman |
Wings? |
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| otherone4life |
| I thought winter sports in Philly were the same as the other 3 seasons ..whine, bitch and complain about how much your teams suck ... |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| I am glad we locked up Utley long term he is my favorite player. Howard will get his deal next year. Hopefully we can lock up Hamels and Myers too. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| i have nothing against abreu..and he did put up great numbers...the attitude of this team changed when he left..for whatever reason....not just utley and howard but a whole team changed a little...i think u had to tie up utley now for the long run..hope howard is next....i also did not think bowa was a nightmare...players just turned him off.... or do i like happy go lucky charlie m....think charlie needs to get a baseball guy as a bench coach for those in game calls..but he is very good with players and egos etc...again late bullpen help...for lieber... and decent year from pat the bat and this team is in the postseason this year.... |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| if you could go back in time, do you think Scott Rolen would have left if Charlie Manuel was the manager? Most fans loved Bowa, but the players hated him! And think if you have a manager or supervisor you can't stand. There's only so much you can deal with before you tune him out. I'd run through a brick wall if the person I was working for was good to me. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
i have nothing against abreu..and he did put up great numbers...the attitude of this team changed when he left..for whatever reason....not just utley and howard but a whole team changed a little...i think u had to tie up utley now for the long run..hope howard is next....i also did not think bowa was a nightmare...players just turned him off.... or do i like happy go lucky charlie m....think charlie needs to get a baseball guy as a bench coach for those in game calls..but he is very good with players and egos etc...again late bullpen help...for lieber... and decent year from pat the bat and this team is in the postseason this year.... |
They hired a couple new coaches for Manuel this year and most of them have head coach experience so that will help. Abreu was a cancer on the team and I am glad he is gone. He is a good player, but he doesn't have the drive to lead a team to the playoffs like Utley does. It is Utley and Howard's team now and this is the best rotation we have had in awhile. If we can get some bullpen help we will have a good shot to make the playoffs. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
if you could go back in time, do you think Scott Rolen would have left if Charlie Manuel was the manager? Most fans loved Bowa, but the players hated him! And think if you have a manager or supervisor you can't stand. There's only so much you can deal with before you tune him out. I'd run through a brick wall if the person I was working for was good to me. |
Rolen would of left anyway he can't handle the pressure in Philly. It looks like he doesn't like LaRussa now as they haven't talked since the world series and he might be traded. I doubt it was Bowa it is Rolen he wanted out. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
| Rolen was a big pussy anyway............WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH Mommy and Daddy, i don't like it here! Just like that fag Eric Lindros! |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| A typical Philly response indeed. Yeah he's a big pussy, i'll take David Bell and Abraham Nunez at 3rd base. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
They hired a couple new coaches for Manuel this year and most of them have head coach experience so that will help. Abreu was a cancer on the team and I am glad he is gone. He is a good player, but he doesn't have the drive to lead a team to the playoffs like Utley does. It is Utley and Howard's team now and this is the best rotation we have had in awhile. If we can get some bullpen help we will have a good shot to make the playoffs. |
The Phillies resolved a couple issues lingering with their bullpen. First off, the Phillies avoided arbitration with Ryan Madson by agreeing to pay him $1.1 million in the upcoming season. Meanwhile, the Phillies also signed Antonio Alfonseca to a minor league contract. but they still need more. don't think this is enough. dead on about abreu. and it is hu this year without the distractions |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
A typical Philly response indeed. Yeah he's a big pussy, i'll take David Bell and Abraham Nunez at 3rd base. |
you snorting coke? david bell blows. the best move they made getting rid of him |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
if you could go back in time, do you think Scott Rolen would have left if Charlie Manuel was the manager? Most fans loved Bowa, but the players hated him! And think if you have a manager or supervisor you can't stand. There's only so much you can deal with before you tune him out. I'd run through a brick wall if the person I was working for was good to me. |
he took a shit on us phillies fans as well. fuck him!!! |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
They hired a couple new coaches for Manuel this year and most of them have head coach experience so that will help. Abreu was a cancer on the team and I am glad he is gone. . |
If you ask Nuge67 he will tell you that Abreu was the reason why the Yankees won the division last year.
A cancer on one team is a savior on another team.
Also, "head coaches" in baseball are referred to as managers. Just busting balls :D |
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| jimmyritt33 |
Quote: Originally posted by joetissirius
you snorting coke? david bell blows. the best move they made getting rid of him |
I guess you didn't get my attempt at sarcasm. Scott Rolen's shit on Philly was what? Not to come out to a curtain call? Please... Isn't funny how 2 players, Schilling and Rolen, both commented on the Phillies commitment to winning, left town and both won WS rings. What do the fans do, take managment's side on the deal. Then the owners go out and sign players to extensions, Abreu, Burrell, Lieberthal, etc and the fans still take a shit on the players and management. Go out and sign Thome to a free agent deal, trade for Kevin Millwood. And now the fans take a shit on the deals. At the time all of those deals were thought to be good deals.
What happens if Utley has a good season this year and then steadily declines in numbers to an average 2B, how bad will the fans villify the owners for this contract extension? |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
If you ask Nuge67 he will tell you that Abreu was the reason why the Yankees won the division last year.
A cancer on one team is a savior on another team.
Also, "head coaches" in baseball are referred to as managers. Just busting balls :D |
Abreu might of helped the Yankees, but he wasn't the reason they won the division. I am still in football mode so excuse me saying head coach instead of manager. Anyway I heard that Lieber has 3 teams interested in him now being the Rangers,Brewers, and Padres. All three of them have good bullpens and we could get a decent pitcher from them. I also saw on one website teams problems and it said the Mets rotation with the solution being they will trade for Lieber. I would rather keep Lieber and not help out the Mets. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
I guess you didn't get my attempt at sarcasm. Scott Rolen's shit on Philly was what? Not to come out to a curtain call? Please... Isn't funny how 2 players, Schilling and Rolen, both commented on the Phillies commitment to winning, left town and both won WS rings. What do the fans do, take managment's side on the deal. Then the owners go out and sign players to extensions, Abreu, Burrell, Lieberthal, etc and the fans still take a shit on the players and management. Go out and sign Thome to a free agent deal, trade for Kevin Millwood. And now the fans take a shit on the deals. At the time all of those deals were thought to be good deals.
What happens if Utley has a good season this year and then steadily declines in numbers to an average 2B, how bad will the fans villify the owners for this contract extension? |
I don't regret them signing Thome or trading for Millwood both were good moves that didn't work out in the end. Don't worry Utley will continue to be the best 2b in baseball the next 5 seasons. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
I also saw on one website teams problems and it said the Mets rotation with the solution being they will trade for Lieber. I would rather keep Lieber and not help out the Mets. |
As a Mets fan I want nothing to do with Lieber.
That guy will not win a big game in October. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
As a Mets fan I want nothing to do with Lieber.
That guy will not win a big game in October. |
It won't matter because you guys will be sitting home in October. If you look at Lieber's stats in the postseason and in September when the pressure is on he pitches well. You can't tell me Maine, Perez, and whoever is your #5 starter are better than Lieber. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
The East is a 2 horse race with the Phillies and the Mets. Whoever gets out to the hot start will win the division. The Wild Card will come from the Central (Cardinals, Astros, maybe Cubs?)
I just get a little worried that the Phillies are repeating history once again by first signing Utley long term (he's not eligible to be a free agent til 2009) and the having to sign Howard to long term monster money. Will they have leftover money to spend on players they need down the road. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| I hope they do get some back end bullpen..no guy with six fingers is the answer....they should still have money utleys deal is spread out a bit..last two year are rough at 15 mil per..but by then the yankees will take him...just a joke....i want them both here a long time....just cant wait....tailgating at 11am for 1 BPS game.....cold beer..girls in small shirts.... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
It won't matter because you guys will be sitting home in October. If you look at Lieber's stats in the postseason and in September when the pressure is on he pitches well. You can't tell me Maine, Perez, and whoever is your #5 starter are better than Lieber. |
Keep drinking that Phillies Kool Aid.
You guys will choke again this year.
What has it been, 20 years since you made the playoffs?
Make playoffs....then talk............ |
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| bluesoul |
Quote: Originally posted by JBEEZEE
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HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Who gives a shit! :sleepin: :suicide: |
I give a shit. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Keep drinking that Phillies Kool Aid.
You guys will choke again this year.
What has it been, 20 years since you made the playoffs?
Make playoffs....then talk............ |
who choked last year? thought the mets were supposed to win it all? and you can give me the phillies drought all you want, it doesn't bother me. we are on an upswing in philly and the gay mets( according to artie :D ), will be sniffing our butts the next few years |
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| Hey Now MoFo |
| If this comes down to a chase for the division with the Mets it will be a great year. I think both teams are very good, but both have trouble spots. It will come down to what team can overcome or overachieve their trouble spots. |
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| grogansghost |
Quote: Originally posted by Hey Now MoFo
If this comes down to a chase for the division with the Mets it will be a great year. I think both teams are very good, but both have trouble spots. It will come down to what team can overcome or overachieve their trouble spots. |
mets had their chance last year. the phils clubhouse will be looser this year. it will be a great year for the fightin phils :D |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by grogansghost
mets had their chance last year. the phils clubhouse will be looser this year. it will be a great year for the fightin phils :D |
need some middle relief. but you make a valid point |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by joetissirius
who choked last year? thought the mets were supposed to win it all? and you can give me the phillies drought all you want, it doesn't bother me. we are on an upswing in philly and the gay mets( according to artie :D ), will be sniffing our butts the next few years |
Before the season started the Mets were going to be happy to make the playoffs. They were not even picked by most "experts" to win the division. Do you remember their starting rotation last year? Pedro,Glavine,Bannister,Trachsel and Zambrano. Nobody was picking those starters to get to the world series........ Our core is so young and to see them get as far as they did so early just goes to show the type of GM Minaya is, and that was only his first year. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| now that willie is making twice what he made last year there will be some pressure to be as good if not better then last year...mets are good but not great...think they could be setting willie up for a tough year in nyc.....saw myers at local bar last week looks like he lost some lbs..shocking...and he was drinking miller lite...he could be the key to big year along with cole...and not to leave him out but the new philly AI had one hell of a game last night..he better not win to many for us..we need number one pick...... |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
now that willie is making twice what he made last year there will be some pressure to be as good if not better then last year...mets are good but not great...think they could be setting willie up for a tough year in nyc..... |
And to think I always thought that players made teams better, not the amount of $$ managers make.
Gotta love uneducated Phillies fans............. :D
Keep talking in January.....When October comes you guys will be in your normal tee time slots. |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
And to think I always thought that players made teams better, not the amount of $$ managers make.
Gotta love uneducated Phillies fans............. :D
Keep talking in January.....When October comes you guys will be in your normal tee time slots. |
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Excuse me but was that the Mets or the Yankees in the 2006 World Series last year???? |
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| WhiteBoy |
from ESPN:
QUESTION 6: WHICH TEAM HAS THE MOST INTIMIDATING FANS?
Flyers• TOP VOTE-GETTER: Philadelphia Flyers (24%).
(I guess this poll was taken last year :( ) |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
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Excuse me but was that the Mets or the Yankees in the 2006 World Series last year???? |
Does it matter?
You would have loved to gotten any sniff of the playoffs better much 1 game from the Series.
Win some games......then talk!!!
NINE TEEN NINETY THREE!!!! |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by WhiteBoy
from ESPN:
QUESTION 6: WHICH TEAM HAS THE MOST INTIMIDATING FANS?
Flyers• TOP VOTE-GETTER: Philadelphia Flyers (24%).
(I guess this poll was taken last year :( ) |
gotta be one of them soccer teams in europe :D |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by joetissirius
gotta be one of them soccer teams in europe :D |
I am guessing it is USA only :D
If not it would have to be soccer. Those fans are crazy racists. There are none of those here! |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
I am guessing it is USA only :D
If not it would have to be soccer. Those fans are crazy racists. There are none of those here! |
not in this era, but i would imagine jackie robinson would beg to differ. and let's not forget the redsox:The Boston Red Sox were the last major league team to integrate, due to the steadfast resistance provided by owner Tom Yawkey and manager Mike "Pinky" Higgins |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| i think that still stems from the braod street bullies stuff....the only other think that made big news was the guy who fell into penatly box and got popped by domi a couple years back..media gave us some grief for that...it was great though.....i wouldnt go to a raiders game and wear a denver hat....thug life ends life.....but its moslty and act i bet...no acting in top 20 rows in the linc...but the 700 level of the vet it is not..... |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
Does it matter?
You would have loved to gotten any sniff of the playoffs better much 1 game from the Series.
Win some games......then talk!!!
NINE TEEN NINETY THREE!!!! |
Yeah well whatever you want to cry about, BUT YOU WEREN"T THERE EITHER !!!! so knock it off! |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
Yeah well whatever you want to cry about, BUT YOU WEREN"T THERE EITHER !!!! so knock it off! |
What the fuck are you talking about?
NINE TEEN NINETY THREE!!!!! |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
What the fuck are you talking about?
NINE TEEN NINETY THREE!!!!! |
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| yzerman |
| go see the wings guys. you can get tickets in the upper level for $10. end to end action, lots of scoring, fights, music, the games are a lot of fun. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by yzerman
go see the wings guys. you can get tickets in the upper level for $10. end to end action, lots of scoring, fights, music, the games are a lot of fun. |
been there before. good time, but not into lacrosse. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
Quote: Originally posted by joetissirius
been there before. good time, but not into lacrosse. |
agreed I went.... when i was in highschool..they are fun but..thats it just fun..dont really care who wins and loses..its so bad this year i did not even know the nhl all star game was this week....i have turned hockey totally off in...sucks..i hate bobby clark...it wasnt' hitches fault... |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
agreed I went.... when i was in highschool..they are fun but..thats it just fun..dont really care who wins and loses..its so bad this year i did not even know the nhl all star game was this week....i have turned hockey totally off in...sucks..i hate bobby clark...it wasnt' hitches fault... |
Chairman Ed Snider
President and C.O.O. of Comcast-Spectacor Peter Luukko
General Manager Paul Holmgren
Senior Vice President Bob Clarke
Executive Vice President Keith Allen
Governor Ed Snider
Alternate Governors Peter Luukko, Phil Weinberg
Senior Vice President, Sales Joe Croce
Vice President, Marketing and Communications Shawn Tilger
Executive Assistants Lisa D'Aprile, Cheri Arnao, Mya Gupta, Kate Dreyer
Receptionists Ann Bachich, Debbie Brown
how many names in here do you recognize? ed is loyal to a degree where it hurts his franchise. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
Quote: Originally posted by joetissirius
Chairman Ed Snider
President and C.O.O. of Comcast-Spectacor Peter Luukko
General Manager Paul Holmgren
Senior Vice President Bob Clarke
Executive Vice President Keith Allen
Governor Ed Snider
Alternate Governors Peter Luukko, Phil Weinberg
Senior Vice President, Sales Joe Croce
Vice President, Marketing and Communications Shawn Tilger
Executive Assistants Lisa D'Aprile, Cheri Arnao, Mya Gupta, Kate Dreyer
Receptionists Ann Bachich, Debbie Brown
how many names in here do you recognize? ed is loyal to a degree where it hurts his franchise. |
i bet you some of those ex assistants are hot......yeh its not good...we have a shitty owner for 3 of the 4 teams in philly..i dont hate lurie...eagles have spent money..and cut the right people..somethimes at cost of friendships..but they make good business decsions...the flyers do not.... we way ovepayed roenick..the sixers are cheap and stupid with money the do spend...jeff rullen....and phillies..of old hopefully....would always try and just get by never making big deal to get over the top....i am 29 years old and have never been to a champ parade..and i am sorry the mummers suck..i got nothing....sixers in 1980 i was 3... |
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| Hey Now MoFo |
| I was 5 after the last championship, Chickes and Petes has a movie screening about the reasoning behind why we have not won a championship in so long. Its on Feb 5th (check that date), I think they call it The Curse of Billy Penn. |
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| Hey Now MoFo |
Quote: Originally posted by Hey Now MoFo
I was 5 after the last championship, Chickes and Petes has a movie screening about the reasoning behind why we have not won a championship in so long. Its on Feb 5th (check that date), I think they call it The Curse of Billy Penn. |
Here is the info - http://www.phrustratedphan.com/ |
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| AssFaceKilla |
looks cool but i am out of town that day for business...i would think it will be released at some point on dvd..i will be sure to check it out.....they got some good people involved if you read the credits..no lindros though.....fag.... |
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| yzerman |
Quote: Originally posted by AssFaceKilla
agreed I went.... when i was in highschool..they are fun but..thats it just fun..dont really care who wins and loses. |
yeah, good point. i have a couple friends who play for the wings, so i had to get the plug in ;) |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by Hey Now MoFo
I was 5 after the last championship, Chickes and Petes has a movie screening about the reasoning behind why we have not won a championship in so long. Its on Feb 5th (check that date), I think they call it The Curse of Billy Penn. |
billy used to stand tall, proud overlooking the skyline of brotherly love. then that fuckin one liberty place had to knock him down a notch. yes, my friends, a skyscraper came along and had to get billy pissed. so with his mighty powers, he put the curse on the one think that philadelphia loves and cherishes. cream cheese and cheesesteaks you say? that would be to easy to get rid of cows. the answer was simple, our beloved flyers, eagles, sixer and phillies shall carry the burden of being the only city in the country that has 4 professional franchises without a championship since the early 80's. :rolleyes: btw, billy penn lived on the same street i grew up on :D |
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| Hey Now MoFo |
Quote: Originally posted by joetissirius
billy used to stand tall, proud overlooking the skyline of brotherly love. then that fuckin one liberty place had to knock him down a notch. yes, my friends, a skyscraper came along and had to get billy pissed. so with his mighty powers, he put the curse on the one think that philadelphia loves and cherishes. cream cheese and cheesesteaks you say? that would be to easy to get rid of cows. the answer was simple, our beloved flyers, eagles, sixer and phillies shall carry the burden of being the only city in the country that has 4 professional franchises without a championship since the early 80's. :rolleyes: btw, billy penn lived on the same street i grew up on :D |
Lets just get to the real reasons why there is not a damn championship in this city:
Owners have been the major problem.
Not lucky at all - The Fog Bowl cost theEagles the game, I still think we were the best team in the NFC that year. I was to young but the blue line call (or non call) in the Flyers/Islanders Stanley Cup Series. There are plenty more as well.
I think the biggest thing is that it comes down to the fact that besides 3 teams the rest were not the best in their leagues since 83. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by Hey Now MoFo
Lets just get to the real reasons why there is not a damn championship in this city:
Owners have been the major problem.
Not lucky at all - The Fog Bowl cost theEagles the game, I still think we were the best team in the NFC that year. I was to young but the blue line call (or non call) in the Flyers/Islanders Stanley Cup Series. There are plenty more as well.
I think the biggest thing is that it comes down to the fact that besides 3 teams the rest were not the best in their leagues since 83. |
i'll be 45 in march. grew up in the 70's and maybe we were a little spoiled back in the day with all the teams. no excuse for the birds not to have a ring. can't blame the front office on them. the phillies and sixers, valid point. katz killed every fan in this city that loved the sixers, and i don't even know where to start on the group that bought the phillies. but the phillies, as of now, are young and hungry, and our best chance to get a championship for philly |
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| Billyfromsphily |
Look at the story in the Todays Sunday Philadelphia Inquirer available on Philly.com.
It says that Ed Snider says he is miserable.
he was a miserable prick 20 years ago. A friend of mine worked for him and he is a piece of shit as a human being.
See the same issue for Stephen Smiths article on McNabb having character but no leadership qualities...Ony a brother could get away with that and Smith hit it right on the head with that call. |
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| cab3 |
| They both suck. The 76ers need help its going to be hard for them the next couple seasons |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| looks like the only thing hitting anything right now in Philly is Andy Reid's sons. FYI in case you missed it one son got a road rage incident this morning, flashed a gun at the other motorist and took off (luckily they got his license plate number) and the other son ran a red light and t-boned another car (the woman had to get airlifted to a Philly hospital). Fucking Mormons. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
looks like the only thing hitting anything right now in Philly is Andy Reid's sons. FYI in case you missed it one son got a road rage incident this morning, flashed a gun at the other motorist and took off (luckily they got his license plate number) and the other son ran a red light and t-boned another car (the woman had to get airlifted to a Philly hospital). Fucking Mormons. |
they're fucked!! must have been artie fanshttp://philadelphia.comcastsportsne...0p.asp?ID=44418 |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| Phillies signed Myers to a 3 year extension. Locked up Rollins, Utley, and now Myers. Next year Howard will get his big contract and with these guys we will be a force in the nl east for the next 5 years. |
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| Hey Now MoFo |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
Phillies signed Myers to a 3 year extension. Locked up Rollins, Utley, and now Myers. Next year Howard will get his big contract and with these guys we will be a force in the nl east for the next 5 years. |
I am looking forward to this year. I just can't wait till the first pitch. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| while it's good (right now) that they are locking up their core players, my hope is that this isn't the same thing that happened 5 or 6 years ago (Burrell, Abreu, Lieberthal, etc). The Phillies organization hasn't had a good track record with long term deals. I prefer the old Cleveland Indians mentality of only signing players to a max 3 year deal. I realize players are always going to want a 7 year deal, but the end of those contracts almost always bite you in the ass. |
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| KingOfAllWhites |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
while it's good (right now) that they are locking up their core players, my hope is that this isn't the same thing that happened 5 or 6 years ago (Burrell, Abreu, Lieberthal, etc). The Phillies organization hasn't had a good track record with long term deals. I prefer the old Cleveland Indians mentality of only signing players to a max 3 year deal. I realize players are always going to want a 7 year deal, but the end of those contracts almost always bite you in the ass. |
FINALLY a Philly fan who is not drinking the kool aid.
Thats for making me believe again that not all Philly fans are idiots!! |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
while it's good (right now) that they are locking up their core players, my hope is that this isn't the same thing that happened 5 or 6 years ago (Burrell, Abreu, Lieberthal, etc). The Phillies organization hasn't had a good track record with long term deals. I prefer the old Cleveland Indians mentality of only signing players to a max 3 year deal. I realize players are always going to want a 7 year deal, but the end of those contracts almost always bite you in the ass. |
The only contract that is really long is Utley's. I don't worry about him much he loves to play the game and I don't think he will stop playing hard now that he got the big contract. With the market this year Utley wasn't going to settle for a 3 year deal he wants to stay in Philly. As long as he leads us to the playoffs I don't really care what he does the last 2 years of his contract. I would rather give him the deal he wants then watch him sign with the Mets for a even bigger deal. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
The only contract that is really long is Utley's. I don't worry about him much he loves to play the game and I don't think he will stop playing hard now that he got the big contract. With the market this year Utley wasn't going to settle for a 3 year deal he wants to stay in Philly. As long as he leads us to the playoffs I don't really care what he does the last 2 years of his contract. I would rather give him the deal he wants then watch him sign with the Mets for a even bigger deal. |
It's what happens at the end of contracts that fucks every team up. It's not about the length of contracts it's the high dollar value at the end of the contract. For example Myers just signed a 3 year extension (good on the surface) but the last years is for almost $13 million, not good. It always amazes me how sports owners keep shooting themselves in the feet by putting the big money at the end of a contract and not the beginning.
Also, in signing Utley to a long term deal the Phillies potentially have a problem because in his new contract there is a limited trade clause where he has approve the trade to a team from a list he has supplied to the Phillies (sound familiar?)
By the way my source is MLB4U.com a great site for almost everything you need to know about MLB teams. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
Quote: Originally posted by KingOfAllWhites
FINALLY a Philly fan who is not drinking the kool aid.
Thats for making me believe again that not all Philly fans are idiots!! |
We've had our arguments in the past over the whole Barry Bonds fiasco, but I am not a Philly fan just a huge big time baseball fan. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
It's what happens at the end of contracts that fucks every team up. It's not about the length of contracts it's the high dollar value at the end of the contract. For example Myers just signed a 3 year extension (good on the surface) but the last years is for almost $13 million, not good. It always amazes me how sports owners keep shooting themselves in the feet by putting the big money at the end of a contract and not the beginning.
Also, in signing Utley to a long term deal the Phillies potentially have a problem because in his new contract there is a limited trade clause where he has approve the trade to a team from a list he has supplied to the Phillies (sound familiar?)
By the way my source is MLB4U.com a great site for almost everything you need to know about MLB teams. |
Thats in pretty much every contract now days a limited trade clause and most of the money in the back end of the deal. Look at deals like Beltran,Soriano, and Utley they all have limited trade clauses and alot of money in the final years of the deal. I am not worried abut Utley I don't want to see him get traded anyway. I want to see him retire as a Phillie. Myers deal he is 26 years old and the contract will expire when he turns 30. He will still be in his prime so I'm not worried about his contract. |
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| joetissirius |
Quote: Originally posted by jimmyritt33
while it's good (right now) that they are locking up their core players, my hope is that this isn't the same thing that happened 5 or 6 years ago (Burrell, Abreu, Lieberthal, etc). The Phillies organization hasn't had a good track record with long term deals. I prefer the old Cleveland Indians mentality of only signing players to a max 3 year deal. I realize players are always going to want a 7 year deal, but the end of those contracts almost always bite you in the ass. |
Burrell, Abreu, Lieberthal: how can you even compare them to Rollins, Utley, Myers,and Howard :rolleyes: |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| are we talking stats? or are we talking contracts? |
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