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| Apoc13 |
The Red Sox are in serious discussions with the Rockies about acquiring first baseman Todd Helton, but a trade hinges on how much of Helton's contract the Rockies would be willing to assume, FOXSports.com has learned.
The Rockies would receive right-hander Craig Hansen along with two other prospects, according to a major-league source.
Class AA center fielder Jacoby Ellsbury, the Sox's top position prospect, almost certainly is one of the Rockies' targets, but it is likely that a variety of major-and minor-league names are being exchanged.
Todd Helton hit .302 with 15 homers and 81 RBIs in 2006. (John Grieshop/MLB Photos / Getty Images)
The talks began when the Red Sox inquired about Helton at the general managers' meetings in November and have continued periodically since then, another source said.
The discussions also are being reported by the Denver Post.
Helton, 33, possesses a complete no-trade clause and is guaranteed $90.1 million over the next six seasons. He has said he would consider Boston, according to the Post, but his remaining salary is a major obstacle to any deal.
The Red Sox already have spent a combined $209 million this season on right-hander Daisuke Matsuzaka, shortstop Julio Lugo and right fielder J.D. Drew. However, the revenue that the Sox expect to generate from the addition of Matsuzaka could enable the club to absorb Helton and any luxury-tax penalties it might incur.
Helton, a left-handed hitter, could hit second in the Red Sox's batting order or as low as seventh, with the Sox sticking a right-handed hitter such as Kevin Youkilis or switch-hitter such as Jason Varitek in the sixth spot behind the left-right-left combination of David Ortiz, Manny Ramirez and Drew.
The Sox currently are set at first with Youkilis, but Helton had a higher on-base/slugging percentage than Youkilis in 2006 even though he was slowed by a serious stomach ailment. Helton also suffers from back trouble, one reason that the Angels balked at trading for him at the winter meetings.
If the Sox acquired Helton, they possibly could move Youkilis to third and trade Mike Lowell, who is entering the last year of his contract. The addition of Helton would not address the team's need for a closer; sending Lowell to a team such as the Padres could bring relief help.
It also is conceivable that Lowell could be included in the Helton deal, enabling the Rockies to move third baseman Garrett Atkins to first. Two sources, however, said that Lowell was not in the trade, leaving the Rockies with the possibility of shifting right fielder Brad Hawpe to first and also using John Mabry at the position.
Helton will account for $16.6 million of the Rockies' projected $55 million payroll next season. Owner Charlie Monfort acknowledged the possibility of trading him last week in an interview with the Post. Helton has said that he is open to the idea. |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| If the Red Sox get Helton that lineup will be scary. |
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| jimmyritt33 |
| Helton at Fenway and the Pesky pole? Wow, would be interesting. |
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| Apoc13 |
| The Red Sox have an interest in acquiring Rockies first baseman Todd Helton, according to a report in Saturday's Denver Post. The teams spoke about a Manny Ramirez for Helton swap at the GM meetings in November, but this time the Rockies seem to have an interest in young Boston pitchers Craig Hansen and Manny Delcarmen, the Post reported. The newspaper also reported nothing was imminent, but that Helton has heard of Boston's interest in him and would not rule out playing for the Red Sox. The Red Sox will only make a deal "if the chips are perfectly in place," major league sources told the Globe's Nick Cafardo Saturday. One of the major issues involved in a deal for Helton is the five years and $91.1 million left on his contract. The Red Sox would most likely need the Rockies to pick up half of that contract in order to avoid going over the $148 million luxury tax threshold, according to Cafardo. Helton is a .333 career hitter. |
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| kingofkings |
| helton and drew can hangout together on the dl. |
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| KingOfAllMedia |
| I commented on this possible trade in the 2007 Red Sox thread. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by A.Lang=Crazy
If the Red Sox get Helton that lineup will be scary. |
Helton's number's are inflated playing in the Rockies, and you lose the best infielder you have and another solid bat in Lowell. And don't forget, the Red Sox's pen is weak, they lose a very good arm in that trade as well.....
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
HI GUYS....... :booty:
As a Yankee fan, I love this trade............You guys unload the most consistent defender you have, the same guy many of you clowns felt would get the Red Sox back to the World Series, along with Tavarez, who did EVERYTHING and more that was asked of him last year, weakening your already weak pen, for Helton, who has six years remaining on his contract -- the remainder of a nine-year, $141.5 million extension he signed in 2003...HAAAAAAAAAA, that will bring the Red Sox a few million under the Yanks, HAaaaaaaaaaa....Helton played in the Rockies, where balls FLY out of the park and his power #'s have been gooinhg down the past few years...Freaking clowns miss the playoffs one year and Theo panics, I LOVE IT!!!
MAKE THE TRADE!! PLEASE GOD and BABY JESUS!!! |
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| DLee84331 |
| Why in God's name would you trade Manny for Helton? Helton's numbers have always been suspect because of playing in Colorado. I don't care how much of a malcontent Manny is, the Red Sox will curse the day they trade Manny. He's always killed the Yanks, that's for sure. |
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| Apoc13 |
Quote: Originally posted by nuge67
Helton's number's are inflated playing in the Rockies, and you lose the best infielder you have and another solid bat in Lowell. And don't forget, the Red Sox's pen is weak, they lose a very good arm in that trade as well..... |
except that they would get a solid bullpen guy for lowell. |
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| Apoc13 |
Quote: Originally posted by DLee84331
Why in God's name would you trade Manny for Helton? Helton's numbers have always been suspect because of playing in Colorado. I don't care how much of a malcontent Manny is, the Red Sox will curse the day they trade Manny. He's always killed the Yanks, that's for sure. |
if you read the story, manny is staying...it's helton for young pitching |
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| otherone4life |
| keep mortgaging the future mensa |
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| DLee84331 |
| My apologies. But is that better? The Sox don't need that much help on the offensive side of the ball. They need a closer and bullpen help. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by otherone4life
keep mortgaging the future mensa |
:bigclap: |
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| nuge67 |
I hope Helton's wife, who is black, likes Boston....
It's been almost 30 years since buses of black students were pelted with rocks and tomatoes in South Boston. More than a decade has lapsed since Charles Stuart shot his wife in Mission Hill and sparked a veritable witch hunt for a black killer who never existed.
Is Boston, America's third-whitest major metropolitan area, as racist as it once was? Can a city that embraces its history firmly and fondly shed its reputation? Is this city of neighborhoods in fact a city of segregated ethnic enclaves?
Despite the fact that many visitors to the city of Boston think this city is a "happy medium" in many ways, we in Boston are far from living happily together.
Of all the cities I've traveled to, Boston is one of the most segregated, racist, and classist. Yes, like many other cities, Boston has a "Little Italy" (we call it the North End) and a Chinatown; these areas are as much for the sake of new immigrants who want the comfort of others who speak their language, as they are tourist attractions. It's the other neighborhoods, the ones that the tourists, business travelers, and college kids don't usually see, that trouble me.
The Boston Red Sox were the last major league baseball team to integrate their roster. In 1959 -- 12 years after Jackie Robinson broke the league's color barrier by joining the Brooklyn Dodgers -- the Red Sox brought infielder Pumpsie Green up from the minors.
The legacy of racial exclusion on the Red Sox extended into the Fenway Park stands, where black fans often felt unwelcome.
Seems like some things never change |
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| Remo Williams |
| I've read rumors of Helton coming out here to Anaheim to protect Vlad. I wouldn't touch Helton, he has a bad back and his numbers are down since the steroid rumors. |
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| GRATEFUL DEAD |
Yep, he's supposed to have been a HUGE steroids user, whose numbers nosedived once he got off the juice.
He's supposed to have had real back backnee just like Sosa and McGwire............... |
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| GRATEFUL DEAD |
| That said, with the Yanks shitty pitching, Bosox win the division EASILY with Helton........... |
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| FUGLY2 |
Quote: Originally posted by GRATEFUL DEAD
Bosox win the division EASILY with Helton........... |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by FUGLY2
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:lol:
I am with Fug on this one. I mean, the Yanks had NO pitching last year and where what, 10 games better then the Sox? So the Sox pitching got 11 or more games better then the Yanks pitching, and if so, who the FUCK is going to save games for them? They have NO pen and NO closer. I hope grampa Schilling and Old Man Wake can go a full 9 every time out and you better pray D Mat wins 25 games or else the Sox will be struggling for a Wild Card and maybe fighting to stay out of 3rd..........
And I admit, the Yankee staff isn't the best, but I don't think this will be the same rotation come the trading deadline.............. |
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| Remo Williams |
| Plus JD Drew will miss about 70 games since he isn't in a contract year. While the Yankees and Red Sox are arguing over who is going to win the Blue Jays have been sneaking up in the rear view mirror. |
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| nuge67 |
Quote: Originally posted by Remo Williams
Plus JD Drew will miss about 70 games since he isn't in a contract year. While the Yankees and Red Sox are arguing over who is going to win the Blue Jays have been sneaking up in the rear view mirror. |
I agree and I also feel the Sox are looking at another 3rd place finish and 1st will be a battle between the Yanks and Jays |
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| FU-Artie-HiFred |
Quote: Originally posted by kingofkings
helton and drew can hangout together on the dl. |
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