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| Stonewall |
Iran on course for nuclear bomb, EU toldIran on course for nuclear bomb, EU told
By Daniel Dombey and Fidelius Schmid in Brussels
Published: February 12 2007 22:18 | Last updated: February 13 2007 13:51
Iran will be able to develop enough weapons-grade material for a nuclear bomb and there is little that can be done to prevent it, an internal European Union document has concluded.
In an admission of the international community’s failure to hold back Iran’s nuclear ambitions, the document – compiled by the staff of Javier Solana, EU foreign policy chief – says the atomic programme has been delayed only by technical limitations rather than diplomatic pressure. “Attempts to engage the Iranian administration in a negotiating process have not so far succeeded,” it states.
The downbeat conclusions of the “reflection paper” – seen by the Financial Times – are certain to be seized on by advocates of military action, who fear that Iran will be able to produce enough fissile material for a bomb over the next two to three years. Tehran insists its purposes are purely peaceful.
“At some stage we must expect that Iran will acquire the capacity to enrich uranium on the scale required for a weapons programme,” says the paper, dated February 7 and circulated to the EU’s 27 national governments ahead of a foreign ministers meeting yesterday.
“In practice . . . the Iranians have pursued their programme at their own pace, the limiting factor being technical difficulties rather than resolutions by the UN or the International Atomic Energy Agency.
“The problems with Iran will not be resolved through economic sanctions alone.”
The admission is a blow to hopes that a deal with Iran can be reached and comes at a sensitive time, when tensions between the US and Tehran are rising. Its implication that sanctions will prove ineffective will also be unwelcome to EU diplomats. Only yesterday the bloc agreed on how to apply United Nations sanctions on Tehran, overcoming a dispute between Britain and Spain over Gibraltar.
Iran has set up several hundred centrifuges to enrich uranium, a process that can yield both nuclear fuel and weapons-grade material. But analysts say that Iran is behind schedule on plans to install 3,000 centrifuges to produce enriched uranium on a larger scale.
Last year Ernst Uhrlau, the head of German intelligence, said Tehran would not be able to produce enough material for a nuclear bomb before 2010 and would only be able to make it into a weapon by about 2015.
The EU document is embarrassing for advocates of negotiations with Iran, since last year it was Mr Solana and his staff who spearheaded talks with Tehran on behalf of both the EU and the permanent members of the UN Security Council.
The paper adds that Tehran’s rejection of the offer put forward by Mr Solana “makes it difficult to believe that, at least in the short run, [Iran] would be ready to establish the conditions for the resumption of negotiations”.
Copyright The Financial Times Limited 2007
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| DUDE-HERE |
don't worry with strong democrats in office like we have now...iran wouldn't dare
:p |
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| booybob |
Come on guys, you know this is wrong. The religion of peace would never want to build a nuke. It is all George Bush's fault. If our ignorant country would have elected Al Gore,
all the worlds problems would be solved and we would be living in utopia.
I wonder how long it is going to take the Democrats to say this intel is wrong and George Bush deceived the EU??? |
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| Oz |
| isn't Christianity (its derivatives) supposed to be a religion of peace |
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| patcracker |
| When Herr Bush over committed our Armed forces in Iraq it gave Iran the green ligt to do whatever it wanted. Like it or not but this again happened on Bush's watch. How many more failures by this Administration are you right leaning people going to put up with until you see who the problem is? The "War on terror" has been sooooooo mismanaged that the USA has lost all its credibility. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
isn't Christianity (its derivatives) supposed to be a religion of peace |
when christians start blowing themselves up..then i'll compare them |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
don't worry with strong democrats in office like we have now...iran wouldn't dare
:p |
They've been pushing the "decider"'s buttons and will continue to do so.
They know that pussy has stretched the military too thin. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by SCUM
bombs away infidels |
Spoken like a true member of the American Taliban. :borg: |
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| Halcyon |
I guess we better run in with only 3000 troops without the proper equipment to immediately overthrow the Iranian government so we can establish another failed democracy which would allow Afghanistan and Syria to run in and take over Iraq and Iran.....
Wondertwin powers ACTIVATE!!!!!
Form of: A retarded unthinking nazi-like President!
Form of: Unbelievable profits for Big Oil and other no-bid contract friends of Bush! |
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| Stonewall |
| Who knows if Iran is seeking a bomb, but one thing for sure the U.S. went about this, so far, through negotiation. Through the U.N.. With our "allies". All on the Up and Up. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
when christians start blowing themselves up..then i'll compare them |
Don't know if any have blown themselves up, yet, but I'd hardly call a certain faction of them a religion of peace when they blow up abortion clinics all in "the name of god". Extreme isllam nutjobs and extreme crhistian nutjobs have one thing in common: Both groups are nutjobs who use their interpretation of what their bible/quran says and act out in a violent way. |
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| booybob |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Who knows if Iran is seeking a bomb, but one thing for sure the U.S. went about this, so far, through negotiation. Through the U.N.. With our "allies". All on the Up and Up. |
No matter what happens GWB is screwed. If the talks are a success it was the UN not Bush
If the talks fail it was Bush's fault.
Nuke the sand nig*ers now before they nuke us. :bigclap: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by booybob
No matter what happens GWB is screwed. If the talks are a success it was the UN not Bush
If the talks fail it was Bush's fault.
Nuke the sand nig*ers now before they nuke us. :bigclap: |
Why put the * in it? We all know what a racist piece of shit you are Ironpirate.... why not just say it? |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by booybob
No matter what happens GWB is screwed. If the talks are a success it was the UN not Bush
If the talks fail it was Bush's fault.
Nuke the sand nig*ers now before they nuke us. :bigclap: |
Yeah, because like Iraq, they are going to do that.
You fucking idiot. |
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| harley-davidson |
| I though we already read this book...the wmd's, the mushroom cloud,mobile bio units,secret airplanes that could attack us here ,IRAQ developing nukes...oh now it's IRAN ....second verse same as the first |
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| Halcyon |
Don't forget the best part of that WMD conspiracy...
That Saddam knew we were coming and had everything flown over to another country so we wouldn't find it.
:jj: :rofl: :burst: :lol:
Tell me that isn't just fucking hilarious.... |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: That Saddam knew we were coming and had everything flown over to another country so we wouldn't find it. |
Did you hear the one where he buried all his WMD'S in the sand......because he knew we were coming...lol... :daz: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
Did you hear the one where he buried all his WMD'S in the sand......because he knew we were coming...lol... :daz: |
You mean like how Bush apologists hide their heads in the sand any time a REAL issue is brought up on this forum? |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by patcracker
When Herr Bush over committed our Armed forces in Iraq it gave Iran the green ligt to do whatever it wanted. Like it or not but this again happened on Bush's watch. How many more failures by this Administration are you right leaning people going to put up with until you see who the problem is? The "War on terror" has been sooooooo mismanaged that the USA has lost all its credibility. |
maybe u haven't noticed what two countries border IRAN...........that would be Afghanistan and Iraq...... which has the presence of the most dangerous, powerful and intelligent armed forces in the world within their borders........ |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
They've been pushing the "decider"'s buttons and will continue to do so.
They know that pussy has stretched the military too thin. |
how has he pressed it thin???? it's all in the same region that the shit is going to go down in...... come on now you can't fight a war against iran without having a presence there first.... we have them surrounded so when the shit hits the fan we WILL be ready!!!! |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
how has he pressed it thin???? it's all in the same region that the shit is going to go down in...... come on now you can't fight a war against iran without having a presence there first.... we have them surrounded so when the shit hits the fan we WILL be ready!!!! |
Where does Somalia or N. Korea fit in your grand scheme of not spreading too thin? |
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| JTProcess |
| OH MY FUCKING GOD I'M SHITTING MY PANTS IN FEAR... PLEASE JUST LET GEROGE BUSH DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE I'M SO FUCKING SCARED I DON'T CARE ANYMORE... GEORGE BUSH IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE US FROM THIS IMMINENT THREAT... THERE'S NO TIME TO THINK... I HEARD THE WORD NUCLEAR AND THAT SCARES ME TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO INVADE AND GET AT LEAST 3000 MORE OF OUR TROOPS KILLED LOOKING FOR THIS WEAPON!! |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
OH MY FUCKING GOD I'M SHITTING MY PANTS IN FEAR... PLEASE JUST LET GEROGE BUSH DO WHATEVER HE WANTS BECAUSE I'M SO FUCKING SCARED I DON'T CARE ANYMORE... GEORGE BUSH IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SAVE US FROM THIS IMMINENT THREAT... THERE'S NO TIME TO THINK... I HEARD THE WORD NUCLEAR AND THAT SCARES ME TO THE POINT THAT WE NEED TO INVADE AND GET AT LEAST 3000 MORE OF OUR TROOPS KILLED LOOKING FOR THIS WEAPON!! |
You're a pro-terrorist sympathizer..... Why do you hate America? |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Don't forget the best part of that WMD conspiracy...
That Saddam knew we were coming and had everything flown over to another country so we wouldn't find it.
:jj: :rofl: :burst: :lol:
Tell me that isn't just fucking hilarious.... |
No, no, no, they sent it to Syria via trucks. The righties KNOW it, because they saw the satellite images of it happening, just like the satellite images of the trailers used to develope the weapons.......OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPSsssssss |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
No, no, no, they sent it to Syria via trucks. The righties KNOW it, because they saw the satellite images of it happening, just like the satellite images of the trailers used to develope the weapons.......OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPSsssssss |
Oh that's right... Bush FLEW the Bin Laden family out of the country when the rest of us were grounded during 9/11....
Boy, sometimes I get my facts mixed up.. :doh: |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
how has he pressed it thin???? it's all in the same region that the shit is going to go down in...... come on now you can't fight a war against iran without having a presence there first.... we have them surrounded so when the shit hits the fan we WILL be ready!!!! |
what the fuck?
So are you suggesting we abandon afghanistan AGAIN, for the whim of a wanna-be dictator (bush)? Not only that, since we can even beat a bunch of, some "sand niggers" to quote the mentality of the right, in Iraq what makes you think we can beat them in Iran? |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
what the fuck?
So are you suggesting we abandon afghanistan AGAIN, for the whim of a wanna-be dictator (bush)? Not only that, since we can even beat a bunch of, some "sand niggers" to quote the mentality of the right, in Iraq what makes you think we can beat them in Iran? |
No, Nedmark61 is trying to say that because we're in Afghanistan AND Iraq, we're surrounding Iran so when shit pops off, we can bust them up cuz we surround them... so we're not spread too thin....
Except
We failed in Iraq
We're in Somalia for god knows what reason
N. Korea is acting up lately (Psst... they actually HAVE WMDs)
We still don't have the man responsible for 9/11 |
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| zimmie |
Still wondering when the Democrats are gonna bring those 100,000 troops we have in Germany and Korea. They started those wars........
WHEN ARE THOSE TROOPS COMING HOME DEMOCRATS?????? |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
I'm a child fucker |
Yes, you are |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Still wondering when the Democrats are gonna bring those 100,000 troops we have in Germany and Korea. They started those wars........
WHEN ARE THOSE TROOPS COMING HOME DEMOCRATS?????? |
hey dumbass, are those troops currently involved in a war? The army has closed many bases in germany already. And germany was the main jump-off point for deployment to the middle east.
The VAST majority of those troops there in germany and korea are there because of the military stationing people around the world.
Those troops aren't being shot at every day, with NO CLEAR plan on how to win the war in Iraq.
I would like to see the actual # of troops in Deutschland and Korea. I wonder if it is MORE of your fucking LIES. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Yes, you are |
Child fucker, little boy toucher zimmie.
Not to mention a cunt-faced LIAR. |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: 4 Reasons abortion should be kept legal: zimmie, NCMike06, DUDE-HERE, SDVT-2 |
.........................>LMAOROTF<................................................ |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
Child fucker, little boy toucher zimmie.
Not to mention a cunt-faced LIAR. |
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: |
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| ChaseDC |
| sorry, I had to correct my typo. :D |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
.........................>LMAOROTF<................................................ |
Thinking about making it a 5:
that stupid ass booy-whatever-the-fuck-his-name-is is a bordeline new addition to the keep abortion legal list. |
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| falseprophet |
Quote: Originally posted by booybob
Come on guys, you know this is wrong. The religion of peace would never want to build a nuke. It is all George Bush's fault. If our ignorant country would have elected Al Gore,
all the worlds problems would be solved and we would be living in utopia.
I wonder how long it is going to take the Democrats to say this intel is wrong and George Bush deceived the EU??? |
Have you noticed that your beloved Republicans have been in power for the last couple of terms? Why the fuck did Dubya allow this to happen, what with his perchant for military action and such? He was so busy trying to dethrone Saddam that he took his eye off the real enemy and in the process lost all credibility necessary to unify the world against this kind of threat. Maybe on his last day in office he'll just turn the whole region into a sheet of glass. |
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