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| Over/Under on how long it takes this guy to be fired/resign?
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| SaintJimmy |
I'll put the line at three weeks.
And I'll take the under.
Updated: 2 hours, 6 minutes ago
JAKARTA, Indonesia - A top U.S. general said Tuesday there was no evidence the Iranian government was supplying Iraqi insurgents with highly lethal roadside bombs, apparently contradicting claims by other U.S. military and administration officials.
Gen. Peter Pace, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said U.S. forces hunting down militant networks that produced roadside bombs had arrested Iranians and that some of the material used in the devices were made in Iran.
“That does not translate that the Iranian government per se, for sure, is directly involved in doing this,” Pace told reporters in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. “What it does say is that things made in Iran are being used in Iraq to kill coalition soldiers.”
His remarks might raise questions on the credibility of the claims of high-level Iranian involvement, especially following the faulty U.S. intelligence that was used to justify the invasion of Iraq in 2003.
Three senior military officials in Baghdad said Sunday that the highest levels of Iranian government were responsible for arming Shiite militants in Iraq with the bombs, blamed for the deaths of more than 170 U.S. troops
Asked Monday directly if the White House was confident that the weaponry is coming on the approval of the Iranian government, spokesman Tony Snow said, “Yes.”
Iran on Monday denied any involvement.
“Such accusations cannot be relied upon or be presented as evidence. The United States has a long history in fabricating evidence. Such charges are unacceptable,” Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini told reporters in Tehran. |
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| Oz |
| he clearly hates America |
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| patcracker |
| Well the rhetoric has changed. You will notice how ALL republic politicians no longer say that a debate on Iraq will hurt the morale of the troops. Now it looks like the White House has backed off the claims that the Iranian government has authorized these bombs. The White House has painted itself into a nice corner and the American People are not letting them out of it. Look how many of these BushBots get owned here on a daily basis. The American People are into the "cry wolf" stage of this Administration.Nothing that comes out of the White House can be trusted. The Republic party started this rhetoric and now they have to eat it. |
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| angrychink |
notice too how diplomacy worked with north korea
what dumbya didn't want to do with iraq (diplomacy) |
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| DUDE-HERE |
jakarta indonesia....lol
well if the story came from there it must be true |
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| angrychink |
| what that bush never, ever, ever understood diplomacy because he was such a fucking arrogant prick chickenhawk? |
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| Hater |
| Dude I fail to see how the country of origin of the article in anway impacts the fact that Pace actually said these things...he was quoted as saying them....they're on video.,..in your haste to defend Bush at any cost you've grown crazily petty... |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
notice too how diplomacy worked with north korea
what dumbya didn't want to do with iraq (diplomacy) |
Why would we even need diplomacy with Iraq!?!?!?!?
They didn't threaten us at ALL!!!
We went in there with no reason at all.......
What diplomacy did we need in Iraq? Tell them to get rid of their WMD programs instead of running in there and looking? That hasn't worked before, it wouldn't work now. There was no need for diplomacy in Iraq.... we shouldn't have invaded in the first place. |
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| angrychink |
true
but, just as north korea had the other countries dealing with it (s korea, china, japan, et. al)
iraq could have iran, syria, et. al
but, dumbya couldn't negotiate with others...so, the dumbfuck invaded
it's dumbya's inability to speak that is at the crux of this problem |
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| otherone4life |
| as to your question, he's the freaking Chairman of the JCS, not some GS-9 who can get shitcanned before Friday. He ain't goin' anywhere ... |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by otherone4life
as to your question, he's the freaking Chairman of the JCS, not some GS-9 who can get shitcanned before Friday. He ain't goin' anywhere ... |
If he keeps a'spoutin' off like this (bein' truthful an' all), he'll be gone in a month. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
It seems to me, with all the common sense I can muster, that Iran may very well be supplying bombs/parts to insurgents in Iraq.
But the fact that it comes from an administration with a long and proven track record of lies and deception, makes me more than a little skeptical.
:rolleyes: |
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| JTProcess |
| Hey Jimmy... can you post a link for this story? |
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| patcracker |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
jakarta indonesia....lol
well if the story came from there it must be true |
The Pacific rim has the highest amount of Al Qeada. I think DUDE should do a little research. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Hater
Dude I fail to see how the country of origin of the article in anway impacts the fact that Pace actually said these things...he was quoted as saying them....they're on video.,..in your haste to defend Bush at any cost you've grown crazily petty... |
They ALL have. They cannot deal with the FACT that they have been lied to. That they are SHEEP.
How DARE anyone criticise the CHIMP in chief!!!!!!!!!!????
All the BUSHBOTS are digusting, lieing, pieces of shit who need to be shoved into the sewer where they belong. |
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| ChaseDC |
wow, didn't DOUCHE-HERE post the same thing?
Hey zimmie? Did you touch a boy today? |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: All the BUSHBOTS are digusting, lieing, pieces of shit who need to be shoved into the sewer where they belong. |
If the cocaine monkey ever gives them marching orders to walk into the sewer,they will all go voluntarily |
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| hoochieking |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
jakarta indonesia....lol
well if the story came from there it must be true |
Funny we say the same thing about posts from you. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
If the cocaine monkey ever gives them marching orders to walk into the sewer,they will all go voluntarily |
Of course, just like teh fucking retards who followed Jim Jones did.
Enjoy your kool-aid, zimmie the childfucker! |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: Speaking of embarrassing, this is as embarrassing as Chase DC begging to give blowjobs at the bus station.. |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNgaVtVaiJE
Funny how nowhere did I hear anyone say invade and occupy IRAQ... |
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| harley-davidson |
ZIMMIE if this wasn't so much fun....cleaning your clock I mean........>Quote: ollectively, these failures justify the resignation - or impeachment - of George W. Bush and Dick Cheney, who are ultimately responsible for the failure of their Administration to protect the American people.
The Bush administration ignored the issue of terrorism from the moment it assumed office:
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They ignored the final report of the Hart-Rudman commission, the Road Map for National Security: Imperative for Change, that was issued on January 31, 2001
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They blocked Senate hearings on the Hart-Rudman commission's report, scheduled for the week of May 7, 2001, by announcing a brand new commission led by Vice President Dick Cheney - which never met before 911
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They ignored repeated requests from the Hart-Rudman commission from January 2001 to September 6, 2001, when National Security adviser Condoleezza Rice said she would "pass on" their concerns
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They ignored repeated requests from Senator Dianne Feinstein to restructure US counter-terrorism and homeland defense programs, starting in July 2001 and continuing through September 10, 2001, when Dick Cheney's Chief of Staff told Feinstein to wait 6 months
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They ignored the report of the Gore Commission on Aviation Safety and Security
The Bush administration changed Bill Clinton's policy towards Afghanistant to appease Al Qaeda, the Taliban, and their Saudi backers to promote the interests of oil companies, putting profits for campaign contributors ahead of fighting terrorism:
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They prevented FBI terrorism experts from investigating Saudi Arabian ties to Al Qaeda before 911, leading to the resignation of FBI Deputy Director John O'Neill only two weeks before 911
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They ordered the Naval Strike Force - which President Clinton deployed near Afghanistan on 24-hour alert in order to strike Osama Bin Laden - to "stand down" before 911
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They gave $43 million to the Taliban in April 2001
When appeasement failed, the Bush administration then prepared for war against Afghanistan:
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They issued an ultimatum to the Taliban in July 2001, telling them to turn over Osama Bin Laden and permit Unocal to build a pipeline across Afghanistan in return for a "carpet of gold" - or face a "carpet of bombs"
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They prepared a National Security Presidential Directive on September 9, 2001, a detailed "game plan to remove al-Qaida from the face of the Earth"
The Bush administration ignored numerous warnings from US and foreign agencies:
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They ignored warnings as early as June from the National Security Agency's Echelon electronic spy network that Middle Eastern terrorists were planning to hijack commercial aircraft to use as weapons to attack important symbols of American and Israeli culture
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They ignored warnings from an FBI agent in Phoenix on July 10, 2001 about suspicious Arab pilots with ties to Al Qaeda who were training in a local flight school, urging a nationwide investigation of Arab students in flight schools
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Bush personally ignored warnings from the CIA on August 6, 2001 that Al Qaeda planned to hijack US planes
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They ignored warnings from Jordanian intelligence in the summer that a major attack was planned inside the US using airplanes
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They ignored warnings from Israeli intelligence in August that large-scale terrorist attacks on highly visible targets on the American mainland were imminent, organized by a cell of as many of 200 terrorists said to be preparing a big operation
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They ignored warnings from Russian intelligence in August that at least 25 terrorist were trained in Afghanistan and Pakistan to attack US targets, with future plans to attack financial, nuclear, and space facilities
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They ignored warnings from Moroccan intelligence in August that Bin Laden was "very disappointed" by the failure of the 1993 WTC bombing, and planned "large-scale operations in New York in the summer or autumn of 2001"
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They rejected a search warrant requests by FBI agents in Minneapolis for Moussaoui's computer disk
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They ignored warnings from Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak on August 31 of an impending attack on the US
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They ignored phone calls from Abu Zubaida, bin Laden's chief of operations, to the United States that were intercepted by the National Security Agency shortly before 911
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They ignored an extroardinary number of "puts" on the stocks which were hardest hit by the 911 attacks, including American and United airlines, in the days leading up to 911
The Bush administration failed to take meaningful precautions against a terrorist attack when so many warnings were being issued:
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Bush went on vacation for the month of August, after only six months on the job
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They allowed counterterrorism agencies to "stand down" from the highest level of alert before August 6, 2001, despite repeated warnings from CIA director George Tenet
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The FAA knew about concerns that Moussaiou would hijack a 747 in August 2001, but failed to warn the airlines
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They failed to assign more sky marshalls or to make cockpit doors more secure
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They changed FAA policy to prohibit pilots from carrying guns
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They failed to increase the readiness levels of our Air Defense
On 911, Bush failed to take decisive action:
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George W. Bush said on two occasions that he saw the first plane hit the World Trade Center at 8:46 a.m. on 911, and was told by Andrew Card about the second plane hitting the World Trade Center at 9:05 a.m. - yet Bush did nothing but listen to a children's story until 9:30 a.m. instead of ordering fighter jets to intercept all hijacked planes immediately
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George W. Bush and Dick Cheney ordered the Pentagon to shoot down Flight 93 over Pennsylvania at 9:55 a.m., but could have shot down the other three flights if they had not waited so long to act
Following 911, Bush used the tragedy to promote the agenda of his wealthy and powerful supporters:
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Bush pushed through the USA Patriot Act, which rewarded right-wing opponents of freedom and civil liberties
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Bush demanded additional tax cuts for the wealthy using the pretense of "stimulating" the economy
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Bush massively increased defense spending, to the direct personal benefit of his father and his cronies in the Carlyle Group
To cover up his failures, the Bush administration resorted to stonewalling, fingerpointing, and lies about 911:
They have continually lied about the extent of the warnings about the 911 attack
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Shortly after 911, Ari Fleischer declared flatly that there were "no warnings"
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When it was revealed in May 2002 that the CIA briefed Bush personally on August 6, 2001, they claimed that the briefing did not address terrorist attacks in the US; then they claimed it was a "low-level" briefing based on only one warning
Condoleezza Rice said, "I don't think anyone could have predicted that these people... would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile." (5/16/02)
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The Pentagon commissioned a study in 1993 called "Terrorism 2000", which predicted multiple simultaneous attacks, the use of airplanes as weapons, targeting of large landmarks and financial centers, etc.
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A Fedex employee tried to crash a DC-10 into FedEx HQ in Memphis in 1994, but was apprehended
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An Islamic fundamentalist group hijacked an Air France flight and loaded it with 27 tons of fuel to destroy the Eiffel Tower, but special forces stormed the plane on the ground
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Abdul Hakim Murad and Ramsey Yousef conceived of 'Project Bojinka' in 1995, a plan to blow up 11 US airline flights over the Pacific in 1995, and to crash airplanes into the Pentagon and the CIA, which definitely caught the attention of counter-terrorism experts in the US
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The Library of Congress Report on The Sociology And Psychology Of Terrorism warned in 1999 about suicide hijackers
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The Pentagon conducted a drill in December 2000 to respond to an airline crashing into the Pentagon
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U.S. and Italian officials were warned in July 2001 that Islamic terrorists might attempt to kill President Bush and other leaders by crashing an airliner into the Genoa summit of industrialized nations
They did everything possible to block an independent commission investigation
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Bush and Cheney personally called Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle urging him not to conduct an investigation
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When pressure for an independent commission became too strong, they suddenly announced warnings of another attack - although they did not raise the official alert level above yellow, leading to widespread speculation of a deliberately false alarm to stop the momentum
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When the Independent Commission finally began its work, Bush used Nixon's dictatorial doctrine of "Executive Privilege" to deny commissioners access to crucial documents
George W. Bush himself has repeatedly JOKED about the 911 attack
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"Lucky me. I hit the trifecta," George W. Bush, shortly after 9/11 - quoted by Bush Budget Director Mitch Daniels, 11/28/01. |
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| Halcyon |
Hmm... no surprise there.... |
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| harley-davidson |
| Now come on ZIMMIE..supporting BUSH is like being a one legged man in an ass kicking contest...isn't it? |
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| JTProcess |
Thanks man... I've been arguing with one of my right wing friends about this... great article.
It's funny how short peoples attention spans are
"YEAH LET'S INVADE IRAN!!"
... uhh... remember 4 years ago? When the case was being made for Iraq?? and it was all bullshit?? ...
DO YOU FUCKING REMEMBER THAT??? AT ALL?? HUGE QUAGMIRE? BS WAR? PEOPLE DYING LEFT AND RIGHT? BILLIONS IN US TAX PAYER MONEY BEING LOST?
Are people really that fucking retarded? |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
Thanks man... I've been arguing with one of my right wing friends about this... great article.
It's funny how short peoples attention spans are
"YEAH LET'S INVADE IRAN!!"
... uhh... remember 4 years ago? When the case was being made for Iraq?? and it was all bullshit?? ...
DO YOU FUCKING REMEMBER THAT??? AT ALL?? HUGE QUAGMIRE? BS WAR? PEOPLE DYING LEFT AND RIGHT? BILLIONS IN US TAX PAYER MONEY BEING LOST?
Are people really that fucking retarded? |
Remember when the Democrats had full control of the House and Senate and we had a democrat President...... and shit got SO fucked up that we voted for ALL Republicans!?
Yeah... guess what we're doing in '08? We put Democrats back in for House and Senate.... What party do you think the President will hail from in '08?
Yeah... people are that fucking stupid |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by patcracker
The Pacific rim has the highest amount of Al Qeada. I think DUDE should do a little research. |
man are you a dumb fuck
that was sarcasm shithead
did you notice the " LOL " |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
man are you a dumb fuck
that was sarcasm shithead
did you notice the " LOL " |
lol |
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