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| Shocker54 |
| Since everyone in this room is interested in making an easy buck. This is a place where you can give advice on Texas Hold em. I really suck at this game and I am sure some others do too. So if theres a few good players out there. Chime in! :cool: |
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| guinness6 |
| I did some searches on google for this a while back. Of course about 3,000 websites came up. Mostly, all they had was common sense tips because every hand in any situation could be played differently. There are no definites. |
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| Shocker54 |
Quote: Originally posted by guinness6
I did some searches on google for this a while back. Of course about 3,000 websites came up. Mostly, all they had was common sense tips because every hand in any situation could be played differently. There are no definites. |
I am so horrible at poker. I could really use help :( |
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| tonysxl1200c |
| OK I'll admit I'm a NOOB when it comes to poker. Is there anyplace online where I can play and LEARN before I get into real games for real money?? Basically I'm a beginner. |
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| Il Gatto |
Quote: Originally posted by tonysxl1200c
OK I'll admit I'm a NOOB when it comes to poker. Is there anyplace online where I can play and LEARN before I get into real games for real money?? Basically I'm a beginner. |
Any of the big online poker rooms let you play with fake chips I believe. I know pokerstars.com does. I've learned a lot playing that way. |
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| guinness6 |
Quote: Originally posted by Il Gatto
Any of the big online poker rooms let you play with fake chips I believe. I know pokerstars.com does. I've learned a lot playing that way. |
Its not really a good tool (though it can be fun) for learning poker because people will play on anything, seeing the hand right up to the river. If it was real money, they would have dropped much earlier. |
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| Il Gatto |
Quote: Originally posted by guinness6
Its not really a good tool (though it can be fun) for learning poker because people will play on anything, seeing the hand right up to the river. If it was real money, they would have dropped much earlier. |
True, there's a lot of reachers on there. And sometimes those bad moves win(it is for fake chips, unless you buy into real money). But if you want to learn how to make plays and learn the basics while you play, it's good enough. I've learned a lot about strategy, just by playing there. You can learn to recognize those bad players/goofballs. Anyway, I gained enough confidence by learning there to play a couple of live sit and go's at casinos and faired decent.
I wish I could play more live tables now, but the casinos are 1.5-3 hours away, and they are packed. Maybe I can find some private clubs around, but last I read they were getting raided a few months back. |
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| guinness6 |
| yea, I have the pleasure of playing a weekly game with some friends (mostly for bullshit, the $20 ante isn't going to 'make' anyone). |
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| tonysxl1200c |
| I'm asking because Pennsylvania legalized slots and a casino opened up about 20 mins away. Right now there are no table games but they are coming in a few years. I figured it would be a cool place to hang out occasionally and even better if I knew what I was doing at the table. |
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| guinness6 |
Quote: Originally posted by tonysxl1200c
I'm asking because Pennsylvania legalized slots and a casino opened up about 20 mins away. Right now there are no table games but they are coming in a few years. I figured it would be a cool place to hang out occasionally and even better if I knew what I was doing at the table. |
I sometimes play on Paradise Poker. But just because you win a bunch don't think you're going to tear up a live table, thats all. I guess it can be good practice, just take it with a grain of salt. |
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| Il Gatto |
Quote: Originally posted by tonysxl1200c
I'm asking because Pennsylvania legalized slots and a casino opened up about 20 mins away. Right now there are no table games but they are coming in a few years. I figured it would be a cool place to hang out occasionally and even better if I knew what I was doing at the table. |
That's why I tried online to learn first, because the casinos that were nearby just went to brand new poker rooms. I'm seriously considering playing in a decent tourney(if I can single table qualify) in a Oklahoma casino towards the end of the year. I need to play some more live though. |
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| Il Gatto |
Quote: Originally posted by guinness6
I sometimes play on Paradise Poker. But just because you win a bunch don't think you're going to tear up a live table, thats all. I guess it can be good practice, just take it with a grain of salt . |
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| elway0798 |
I play at the casinos here in detroit 3 to 4 nights a week. It's my jod I show up at around 2;30 3 when every mark in there is wasted then the bus of old ppl from toledo get there at 7:30 am and thats like shootin fish in a barrel.
I'm not gonna say to anyone that I don't walk out a loser on many ocasion. But more times than not I got someones money.
Everyone has the missconception(sp) it's all luck. TRUE if ur playing fools or donkeys is the proper term. Cause they play a hand till the river. My advise to ppl (if wanted ) is to find the donkey and find the table captian the one who seems to know whats going on. I tell u to do that for 2 reasons
!. You can't bluff the table idiot. If he's got a pair aces (black ones) and the board lays out 4 diamonds. He'll still call. Cause he knows no better
2. Find the captian or captians they will be the easiest to bluff (if ur convincing in ur bluff) Cause if they got 2 black aces and the board has 4 diamonds even if u have shit he won't call.
I'll answere questions if some of u want. I usually play min 300 no limit at greektown casino detroit. And would be happy to help.
My hero whos has unknowingly won me a lot of cash with his insight 
And yes "super system 1 and 2" are great 1 is the poker bible but this one will explain how to win fast and it's a much eaiser read to follow.
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| Shocker54 |
Quote: Originally posted by elway0798
I play at the casinos here in detroit 3 to 4 nights a week. It's my jod I show up at around 2;30 3 when every mark in there is wasted then the bus of old ppl from toledo get there at 7:30 am and thats like shootin fish in a barrel.
I'm not gonna say to anyone that I don't walk out a loser on many ocasion. But more times than not I got someones money.
Everyone has the missconception(sp) it's all luck. TRUE if ur playing fools or donkeys is the proper term. Cause they play a hand till the river. My advise to ppl (if wanted ) is to find the donkey and find the table captian the one who seems to know whats going on. I tell u to do that for 2 reasons
!. You can't bluff the table idiot. If he's got a pair aces (black ones) and the board lays out 4 diamonds. He'll still call. Cause he knows no better
2. Find the captian or captians they will be the easiest to bluff (if ur convincing in ur bluff) Cause if they got 2 black aces and the board has 4 diamonds even if u have shit he won't call.
I'll answere questions if some of u want. I usually play min 300 no limit at greektown casino detroit. And would be happy to help. |
whats ur aim? |
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| elway0798 |
| don't understand the question. Do U mean whats my game? |
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| timdawg6 |
Quote: Originally posted by Shocker54
Since everyone in this room is interested in making an easy buck. This is a place where you can give advice on Texas Hold em. I really suck at this game and I am sure some others do too. So if theres a few good players out there. Chime in! :cool: |
Hey the best thing to do is to play like a 5 or 10 dollar tournament on Bodog, that way you get people for the most part playing for real and if you lose it wont kill you.
Look out for people playing on teams. |
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| elway0798 |
| If anyone has a question for playing on line or at a live table feel free to ask. I'll share tells and bluffs with all in both formats |
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| Shocker54 |
Quote: Originally posted by elway0798
If anyone has a question for playing on line or at a live table feel free to ask. I'll share tells and bluffs with all in both formats |
What do u usually look for in ur pocket cards before the flop. To determine if ur going to bet or not |
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| timdawg6 |
| A good poker player dosent need cards, thats too broad of a ?. |
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| elway0798 |
Quote: Originally posted by Shocker54
What do u usually look for in ur pocket cards before the flop. To determine if ur going to bet or not |
TimDawg is right for the moderate to advanced player cards mean nothing it's all about the read, pressure on the opponent and position. If just starting at the bedginner level. Play top ten hands mostly and the small pairs maybe the Ax suited but becareful with those ace rag hands. And quik tip dont call a raise with a hand u wouldn't raise or bet out with.
1 AA
2. KK
3. QQ
4. AK (suited)
5. JJ (yes it seems better than an ace king suited but the odds are strong an A K or Q will hit the flop reducing those J's to dueces)
6. 10 10
7. A Q (suited)
8. A Q
9. K Q
10. 99
With the exception of #s 8 9 10. The rest preflop and in position (hopefully u understand the importance of position will talk that later) I either open (not just calling but making the firsy raise) the betting or reraise. Maybe not all the time with AQ suited tho u don't want to run in to AK
Position is the most important aspect of the game. When ur the dealer at a home game or the net or the casino. You have the oppertunity(sp) to act last after the flop. Meaning you get to see exactly what everyone else is doing. You get to see them tell u a story and the better u get at reading their stories the better information u'll have when it's ur turn to act last. And if a story aint adding up you'll pick off a lot of bluffs. But reading ppl takes time so for the start play top ten hands. See how it works in the long run.
I myself love playing the suited connecters 78 89 910 because if u hit the flop good u'll win a lot in return. And if I do play a suited connecter I play it for a raise. So ppl think I'm on high cards. And if ur suited connector don't hit it's easy to dump.
1 last thing for now learn the value in pot odds. You might face a big bet on the turn or river but add it up if you have a hand that is made or could hit the turn or river see if ur getting 2 to 1 on ur money to call it.
Example the pot total is 8000 after the flop. Player1 bets 2000 player2 calls 2,000 and now it's to u with a hand like an openended srt8 draw or 4 to the flush ect.. Right there with a hand like I said the pot total dictates u call. 12000 in the pot and only 2000 for u to call .Ur getting crazy odds on ur money with the chance of hitting ur card on the river. Then if ur lucky and hit lights out.
And on the flip side of that if the pot odds dont add up in ur favor then muck it. Unless u got the chips. Can't type no more for a minute LOL be back....... |
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| Jack the Hammer |
| You know what gambling website is the best to play online poker with? I have been on Full Tilt and it seems that every other hand is a Flush or a straight for any pot, never seen this in any poker game before, are these sites semi-rigged when seeing this? |
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| guinness6 |
Quote: Originally posted by elway0798
AA
2. KK
3. QQ
4. AK (suited)
5. JJ |
These can be tricky too, because you might have the top pair pre-flop, but once that flop hits, someone might have 3 2s and you're done. Best thing to do with a hand like this is bet it hard, get as many to drop before the flop even comes. |
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| elway0798 |
Quote: Originally posted by guinness6
These can be tricky too, because you might have the top pair pre-flop, but once that flop hits, someone might have 3 2s and you're done. Best thing to do with a hand like this is bet it hard, get as many to drop before the flop even comes. |
You may have missunderstood. Those hands the top5 AA KK QQ AK(s) JJ. I tell all beiginers to push hard. Cause as a beginer u don't want to get outplayed on any other street and u want the weaker hands that might just limp in to get out. Now there will be those times you get pAA and someone else has p4's and flops a set. Just an unlucky flop. U get a hand like kings get as much money in the pot as you can. Never as a beginner try to get creative postflop with ppl above ur talent level. Cause if ur ( a beginner) gonna bust out u might as well get ur money in good with a hand like aces or kings preflop. Odd are ur opponent may have a QJ KQ p10's or bullshit and will fold to ur allin bet with aces. Poker is a different game the better you get. And are able to play good postflop.
No bullshit I was in a min 100 dollar buyin table at the casino and was up from 100 to about 375. Got dealt KK. My thought was lets not blast anyone out the pot by overbetting. So I openend the pot for 25 to go. Thinking if no ace hits the flop I'm pushin hard. Well no ace hit the flop was 2 8 2. I bet the pot (there was 4 ppl that stayed in preflop) fold fold fold then I hear this little old lady say allin for 300. Talk about an overbet! I didn't think she had aces cause she woulda reraise my opening bet and for her to call a raise with a duece in her hand would be stupid. So hell with it went all in the board read ( 8 2 2) LMAO!! she flopped quad 2's. Just sharin a horrible beat there. I could have gotten away from the hand thinking she flopped a boat with p8's but I went with my read that she didn't have ace's I was right no aces just 4 dueces LMAO |
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| elway0798 |
Quote: Originally posted by Jack the Hammer
You know what gambling website is the best to play online poker with? I have been on Full Tilt and it seems that every other hand is a Flush or a straight for any pot, never seen this in any poker game before, are these sites semi-rigged when seeing this? |
Full tilt was prolly the one I lost the most money due to outdraws ppl hittin 1 outers on the river ect... These sites seemed riged but who knows. Doylesroom is a good one Ultimate bet (don't slow play there tho u'll get sucked out on almost every time) but it's a good site. They all hand out beats that you'd never see in a home game or even on TV.
I saw on full tilt a boat lose to quads and then the quads lost to a royal flush. No BS. Fulltilt is a good site minus the amazingly bad beats. |
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| timdawg6 |
| All of these sites are rigged |
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| elway0798 |
| U can download a program that will let u see other ppl's hole cards on line. Due a search at yahoo or google for *on line poker cheats* pretty interesting the shit thats out there. The site I saw used as an example was party poker. |
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| nunpuncher |
Quote: Originally posted by elway0798
U can download a program that will let u see other ppl's hole cards on line. Due a search at yahoo or google for *on line poker cheats* pretty interesting the shit thats out there. The site I saw used as an example was party poker. |
well my frien bought 2 of thheese programs and both were scams
as for internet poker being fixed it is total bullshit you just see 100 times more hands per hour so you see more bad beats
i was in vegas and had pocket 2s the flop came out j j 2
i flopped a boat and checked it
three bets in front of me i reraised 3 callers
the turn came out 2 now i had quads
so bet out small got raised and reraised
river was a k got all my money in 2 callers and one had jj
i lost with quads to higher quads
so it happens in live games also
oh yeah after happened i got a huge bonus from the dealer for a bad beat pot and the guy with jjjj got a bonus for high hand of the night |
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| elway0798 |
That was a bad beat bro!^^^
I had p6's at the 50 100 (buy in) no limit (at the casino). flop was ( 10 4 6 ) bullzeye flopped a set! And had 2 guys in the pot as well 1 bet out the other reraised and me with a set smooth called. The turn brought a 4 ( 10 6 4 4 ) Now I turn a boat HELL YEAH! Guy bets out other guy calls. I raise it up the first guy folds the other says allin. With the pot odds and a BOAT I made the call. Fucker flipped over P10's for 10's over 4's My ass had 6's over. I still can't shake that 1 there was about 450 in the pot. But hell what can u do. |
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| nunpuncher |
| god that is defeating i got thoose pain chiils for ya reading that one |
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| showstoppa |
Quote: Originally posted by timdawg6
A good poker player dosent need cards, thats too broad of a ?. |
That is not always true in today's poker world, especially in tournament play. A lot of bad players will call any bet, so you cannot bluff them off a hand. And, you can't bust someone without having the better hand. |
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