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| angrychink |
ACTIVE-DUTY U.S. MILITARY MEMBERS SPEAK OUT AGAINST WAR ON '60 MINUTES'
Thu Feb 22 2007 15:21:11 ET
They say they are not disloyal. They say they are not shirking their duty and that they do not oppose war. But over 1,000 active-duty and reserve members of the U.S. military are against the war in Iraq and have said so in an unusually public way -- by petitioning Congress last month. Several of them appear to explain their actions in a Lara Logan report to be broadcast on 60 MINUTES Sunday Feb. 25 (7:00-8:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
"I'm not anti-war. I'm not a pacifist. I'm not opposed to protecting our country and defending our principles," says Navy Petty Officer Jonathan Hutto, an Iraq war veteran who, along with another veteran, initiated the petition. A 1995 law called the Military Whistleblower act enables military personnel to express their own opinions about Iraq in protected communication directly to Congress. Hutto and others spoke with 60 MINUTES while off duty, off base and out of uniform as conscientious citizens. "But at the same time, as citizens, it's our obligation to have a questioning attitude... about policy," Hutto tells Logan.
Marine Sgt. Liam Madden, who helped Hutto to found the organization they call Appeal for Redress that has attracted 1,000 other military members, is more blunt. "Just because we volunteered for the military doesn't mean we volunteered to put our lives in unnecessary harm and to carry out missions that are illogical and immoral."
These GIs and others Logan spoke with expressed frustration with their efforts in Iraq and believe there is no end in sight to the war. Other Iraqi war veterans still on duty there believe Appeal for Redress misses a larger point. "As an American soldier, I feel like we took an oath to obey the orders of our commander-in-chief and officers appointed over us," says Army Spec. James Smauldon. Said another serviceman in Iraq, Army Capt. Lawrence Nunn, "I know what IÕm here fighting for, to give the Iraqi people some democracy and hope, so I am 100 percent behind this mission. You don't sign up to pick which war you go to."
Another Appeal for Redress member counters, "Our leadership gets to choose the mission. Congress gets to choose the mission," Staff Sgt. Matt Nuckolls says. He's loyally committed to whatever Congress wants him to do but savors the right to question it. "My Congressman is Lacy Clay. I would like to tell him as a constituent of his, 'Is the mission in Iraq really what you want us to be doing?' And then [if] he responds yes, okay, well, we go back to Iraq and keep doing what we're doing." |
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| vegaseric |
| That's fine. Have you ever thought that the other few million service men don't need to sign petitions to support the war? It's cool that they came out and said this...I think it will be funny when they go back to their unit now that this is public. |
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| angrychink |
hey the more people know
the better
(R)ight? |
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| vegaseric |
| Who knows could work for or against. |
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| angrychink |
more information usually hurts the bush admin
(see recent results) |
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| vegaseric |
| Liberals think everything hurts BUSH...hence 2004 elections. |
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| angrychink |
current events buddy
anything happen in november 2006
or do repukes like assholes ONLY remember their last win?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
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| vegaseric |
| He's a lame duck. Do you think he's going to be voted out of office? Do you think that he's concerned about who hates him or not? I don't think he really cares but who knows. |
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| angrychink |
not at all, he's an asshole and a jerk
but, it is good to know that you totally ignored the loss of the house and the senate
( i mean......damn!!! - do you know how many seats were lost?!?) |
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| angrychink |
Quote: Originally posted by vegaseric
He's a lame duck. |
well
you were off by a letter |
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| vegaseric |
| It doesn't matter. I told you from the begining that I would wait and see what the senate and the house do. In my opinion, all they are doing is giving BUSH shit about Iraq. Is that what they really wanted to do with power? Maybe if democrats actually did something for AMERICAN CIVILIANS, they might get ahead. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Of course, if vegaseric the dumpy little fake republican pussy ever had the balls to actually JOIN the military instead of just running his cowardly cock-hole, he'd know how BRAVE it is for active-duty members to publically criticize the sitting administration.
Typical of his disconnected party, people who like to talk big about things they know NOTHING about.
Faggot.
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Of course, if vegaseric the dumpy little fake republican pussy ever had the balls to actually JOIN the military just running his cowardly cock-hole, he'd know how BRAVE it is for active-duty members to publically criticize the sitting administration.
Typical of his disconnected party, people who like to talk big about things they know NOTHING about.
Faggot. |
He's just a stupid, young, dumb fucking punk, with a chip on his shoulder and a big mouth and feels supporting the UN-nessesary bloodshed in IRAQ makes him appear to be a man....but we all know different |
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| angrychink |
| how do u know vegaseric is dumpy? |
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| patcracker |
Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
how do u know vegaseric is dumpy? |
YOu haveny seen the pictures AB has posted? He would never make it past the 2 week point of basic training. Im 42 and slightly overweight but still could go thru basic training again. |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: YOu haveny seen the pictures AB has posted? He would never make it past the 2 week point of basic training. Im 42 and slightly overweight but still could go thru basic training again. |
I'D love to have him for a week doing what I do for a living, I'M 41 and the last guy they put on it was 25 and couldn't handle it..lol ..( I grew up on a farm hard heavy work was never a stranger to me...) old fatty there would be crying for mommy inside a half a day....LOL |
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| vegaseric |
| patcracker, everyone online can go thru basic! |
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| Crazytree |
| your rabid support for the Bush Administration leads me to conclude that you have sucked at least one cock in your lifetime. |
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| vegaseric |
| crazytree, I'm no liberal I tell you! |
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| Crazytree |
| no, you're a chickenhawk armchair commando. |
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| otherone4life |
| no one agrees w/the war except BIG TIME and W |
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