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DUDE-HERE

POWER: GORE MANSION USES 20X AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD; CONSUMPTION INCREASE AFTER 'TRUTH'
Mon Feb 26 2007 17:16:14 ET

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

For Further Information, Contact:
Nicole Williams, (615) 383-6431
editor@tennesseepolicy.org

angrychink

if only you used 0.001%

of the misguided hatred you have towards dems

on the repukes

you would just shut the fuck up and go away

try it

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
if only you used 0.001%

of the misguided hatred you have towards dems

on the repukes

you would just shut the fuck up and go away

try it

come on

defend gores right to waste

gore is right...global warming is caused by humans----> him

angrychink

come on

defend dumbya's right to be a stupid ignorant motherfucker

(remember, the last election)

you bash a guy who just won an academy for a documentary

while ignoring the stupidest warmonger idiot pussy chickenhawk ever who is dividing our country

for party

BaBaBoston

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
come on

defend gores right to waste

gore is right...global warming is caused by humans----> him

as mush as you are your party wanna deny it, its caused by you too asshole

angrychink

Quote: Originally posted by BaBaBoston
as mush as you are your party wanna deny it, its caused by you too asshole

dude's probably stoned (again)

a statement like that

will probably make him think in circles for 15 minutes, at least

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

booybob

Bush may be fucked up, but why does EVERYTHING have to go back to Bush??

The article clearly points out how much of a hypocrite Al Gore is.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.
I GUESS HE FORGOT TO PUT IN HIS LOW ENERGY LIGHT BULBS

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.
I HUESS HE DOES NOT HAVE A HIGH EFFICENCY HEATING SYSTEM

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.
I GUESS IT IS OK FOR A DEM TO BE RICH AND WASTE ENERGY LIKE THIS.

Remember, this has nothing to do with Bush.
It is about Al Gore the HYPROCRITE

BaBaBoston

Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
dude's probably stoned (again)

a statement like that

will probably make him think in circles for 15 minutes, at least

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

theres nothing wrong with bein stoned :cool:

but being a blind neo-con to the issues and people out there is fucked up....
i understand having your own values and beliefs if there democrat or republican
but the neo-cons in this site are truely rediculous its not even worth arguing or discussion politics because their all strictly one sided and refuse to admit anything is wrong

MissingMentalPatient

Hater

Dude - Do you cup Drudge's balls while you suck his dick?

let's add some facts to your drudge hysteria:

Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.

2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:

What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

(http://www.thinkprogress.org)

NCMike06

Hater

Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06

NCMIKE have you seen the documentary? Just curious b/c I've noticed an alarming trend of conservative morons commenting on the movie all over the internet even though they've never seen it...it's actually quite humorous when somebody lists everything that's wrong with the movie and then you ask them if they've seen it and they say NO...fucking pathetic...

booybob

Quote: Originally posted by Hater
Dude - Do you cup Drudge's balls while you suck his dick?

let's add some facts to your drudge hysteria:

Responding to Drudge’s attack, Vice President Gore’s office told ThinkProgress:

1) Gore’s family has taken numerous steps to reduce the carbon footprint of their private residence, including signing up for 100 percent green power through Green Power Switch, installing solar panels, and using compact fluorescent bulbs and other energy saving technology.

2) Gore has had a consistent position of purchasing carbon offsets to offset the family’s carbon footprint — a concept the right-wing fails to understand. Gore’s office explains:

What Mr. Gore has asked is that every family calculate their carbon footprint and try to reduce it as much as possible. Once they have done so, he then advocates that they purchase offsets, as the Gore’s do, to bring their footprint down to zero.

(http://www.thinkprogress.org)

Who do we buy the offsets from?
How much do they cost?
How do they work?
Where will my money go?
What do they do with the money?
Do the Chinese and Indians have to buty offset, or are the exempt?

30,000$ in utilites and he is using green energy, that either works like shit or not at all! :D

NCMike06

LOL...carbon offsets....thats the Gore way of saying...I can't pratice what I preach, so I'll buy 'carbon offsets' instead.

What does Gore do in his other 2 mansions???? Are they heated and cooled when he is not there?? How much land is wasted by those mansions while he is not there??

How many private planes has he flown in since leaving the VP office?? Wonder if he took a limo to the Oscars last nite??

ChaseDC

The only farce is the stance that global warming isn't caused by humans.

NCMike06

Quote: Originally posted by Hater
NCMIKE have you seen the documentary? Just curious b/c I've noticed an alarming trend of conservative morons commenting on the movie all over the internet even though they've never seen it...it's actually quite humorous when somebody lists everything that's wrong with the movie and then you ask them if they've seen it and they say NO...fucking pathetic...

I have seen most of Al Gore's movie...I would hardly consider it a documentary though. The exaggerations, and scare tactics are laughable. Not to mention all the factual errors.

ChaseDC

Factual errors because you know it as a result of expertise or because you read articles on your right-wing nutjob "news" sites?

NCMike06

Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
The only farce is the stance that global warming isn't caused by humans.

Then you would be happy to explain the periods of time in our history where the earth was warmer/cooler/warmer again than it is now....before the evil capitalist pig, or the evil SUV.

ChaseDC

So you drive an SUV?

YOU don't explain anything other than copy and pasting the radical right wing propaganda concerning this issue.

NCMike06

Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
Factual errors because you know it as a result of expertise or because you read articles on your right-wing nutjob "news" sites?

Because, unlike you, I actually research and study the situation. You are severely limited by you obvious lack of reading and comprehension skillsl, as you have shown again and again.

You might want to read this:

http://www.cei.org/pages/ait_response-book.cfm

When you learn how to read and comprehend, that is.

NCMike06

Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
So you drive an SUV?

YOU don't explain anything other than copy and pasting the radical right wing propaganda concerning this issue.

You are the one making the nonsensical claim about man being responsible for something that has been going on for millions of years. I am asking you to prove it.... in the context of other periods of time where the climate was warmer than today.

Have someone explain it to you.

Stickman

PLEASE show one ten year period in history in which the earth was as hot as it is now, increasing as much and as fast as it has the last ten years.

Billyfromsphily

Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Because, unlike you, I actually research and study the situation. You are severely limited by you obvious lack of reading and comprehension skillsl, as you have shown again and again.

Study What??..............................Research what?????

Who the fuck are you kidding!!!! You just cut and paste bullshit from Rush and other neo idiots!

Comprehension is something you have not learned so shut the fuck up!

Its rich seeing you practice your deep seeded denial ! Thats the only truth about you LIEMASTER !

Hater

in the Global warming argument people continually say this warming cycle has been going on for millions of years...it's a cycle...it's a cycle...

ufortunately, they fail to realize that the industrial revolution broke out in 1780, at which point humans really started to impact their environment negatively...that was only a couple of hundred years ago...please...the millions of years cycle talk is bullshit in light of the recent advent of industry...period...

skitz

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
POWER: GORE MANSION USES 20X AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD; CONSUMPTION INCREASE AFTER 'TRUTH'
Mon Feb 26 2007 17:16:14 ET

The Tennessee Center for Policy Research, an independent, nonprofit and nonpartisan research organization committed to achieving a freer, more prosperous Tennessee through free market policy solutions, issued a press release late Monday:

Last night, Al Gore’s global-warming documentary, An Inconvenient Truth, collected an Oscar for best documentary feature, but the Tennessee Center for Policy Research has found that Gore deserves a gold statue for hypocrisy.

Gore’s mansion, [20-room, eight-bathroom] located in the posh Belle Meade area of Nashville, consumes more electricity every month than the average American household uses in an entire year, according to the Nashville Electric Service (NES).

In his documentary, the former Vice President calls on Americans to conserve energy by reducing electricity consumption at home.

The average household in America consumes 10,656 kilowatt-hours (kWh) per year, according to the Department of Energy. In 2006, Gore devoured nearly 221,000 kWh—more than 20 times the national average.

Last August alone, Gore burned through 22,619 kWh—guzzling more than twice the electricity in one month than an average American family uses in an entire year. As a result of his energy consumption, Gore’s average monthly electric bill topped $1,359.

Since the release of An Inconvenient Truth, Gore’s energy consumption has increased from an average of 16,200 kWh per month in 2005, to 18,400 kWh per month in 2006.

Gore’s extravagant energy use does not stop at his electric bill. Natural gas bills for Gore’s mansion and guest house averaged $1,080 per month last year.

“As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk to walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use,” said Tennessee Center for Policy Research President Drew Johnson.

In total, Gore paid nearly $30,000 in combined electricity and natural gas bills for his Nashville estate in 2006.

For Further Information, Contact:
Nicole Williams, (615) 383-6431
editor@tennesseepolicy.org

Oh well then that settles it then. Climate change is all made up.

Assbonnet.

skitz

Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Because, unlike you, I actually research and study the situation. You are severely limited by you obvious lack of reading and comprehension skillsl, as you have shown again and again.

You might want to read this:

http://www.cei.org/pages/ait_response-book.cfm

When you learn how to read and comprehend, that is.

If you actuualy studied you would realize that the overwhelming majority of scientists and scientific organizations believe humans are making a significant contribution to climate change.

Instead you already have formed a political conclusion and scour the intertubes to find anything to support your conclusion; facts and science be damned.

Assbonnet.

Ass Boil

Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
LOL...carbon offsets....thats the Gore way of saying...I can't pratice what I preach, so I'll buy 'carbon offsets' instead.

What does Gore do in his other 2 mansions???? Are they heated and cooled when he is not there?? How much land is wasted by those mansions while he is not there??

How many private planes has he flown in since leaving the VP office?? Wonder if he took a limo to the Oscars last nite??

A "free" market douche like you should be just fine with carbon offsets. After all, it is capitalism and environmentalism all in one, right?. Gore can afford to do his business and pay to offset his carbon footprint by funding renewable energy projects around the world.

Not to mention the fact that our government's energy policy allows polluting companies to buy "credits" from non-polluting companies in the same fucking way and they ADVERTISE that policy as a "free market" based solution to pollution control!

So unless you are prepared to criticize your Chimp-In-Chief for his "market based" approach to environmental policy, shut your stupid hole about Gore using the same principle to offset his carbon use.

Quote:

The 1990 Clean Air Act significantly changed the government's approach to controlling air pollution, embracing for the first time a market-based strategy designed to give utility companies incentives to comply. Under Title IV of the Clean Air Act, each of the 110 electric utilities with the most sulfur dioxide emissions was granted a set number of pollution "allowances" based on its historical fuel use. An allowance is equivalent to one ton of sulfur dioxide emissions. Each utility may emit sulfur dioxide up to the limit -- the "cap" -- imposed by its allowances. However, if a utility emits less than its allotted amount, by being more efficient, by using a lower-sulfur fuel, or by using a renewable energy source like solar or hydroelectric power, it may sell its unused allowances to another utility as "pollution credits." Conversely, if a utility cannot stay within the limits imposed by its allowances, it can buy pollution credits from a less-polluting utility. The system has two major advantages: it rewards companies that pollute less and yet it is flexible enough to accommodate companies that cannot meet the standard of pollution control.

Title IV of the Clean Air Act has significantly decreased emissions from utilities according to a recent summary report. Between 1990 and 2002, sources in the Acid Rain Program emitted 10.2 million tons of sulfur dioxide in 2002, down from 15.7 million tons in 1990. These emissions were slightly more than the 2002 allowances granted under the program as utilities took advantage of unused allowances from previous years to go slightly above the cap for 2002. Similarly, with the drop in emissions, the nation as a whole saw a similar dip in wet sulfate (acid rain) deposition and in ambient sulfate concentrations in the mid-Appalachian and northeastern U.S. where acid rain is a significant problem *.

Recently, in 2003, the Bush Administration has proposed a Clear Skies Act which would utilize a similar system for setting and reducing emissions from utilities and other industrial sources of sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides and mercury emissions. In fact, it would replace the Acid Rain Program and extend it to 2018. Again, rather than setting emission limits for individual plants, the Act would allow plants to buy and trade emission credits toward meeting the cap.* The Act has faced strong opposition from environmental groups and some states, who believe it would allow older, dirtier plants to increase pollution and emissions. In particular, the Act eliminates the New Source Review program, which requires older plants expanding or modifying their production process and emissions to apply new pollution control equipment. Instead, they favor a more traditional approach of setting stricter emission standards for both old and new plants.

There are potential flaws in this "free trade" system. For example, the allowance program assumes that reductions in sulfur dioxide emissions will be of equal benefit to human health and the environment regardless of where they are made. This is not always true; some areas of the country are more prone to acid rain than others. Emission reductions in an area where such emissions do not contribute to an acid rain problem will do little to help regions that are subject to such problems. The Adirondack Council, the local governing structure of the famous state park in upstate New York, protested the fact that New England utilities would be allowed to sell pollution credits to midwestern utilities, whose pollution is the source of acid rain already damaging northeastern forests, lakes, and rivers. Thus, even as utilities in the Northeast significantly reduce emissions, the area environment will not improve if midwestern utilities do not also reduce emissions.* Because of these problems, the EPA recently adopted new, stricter regulations on major utilities in the Midwest and Northeast for nitrogen oxide emissions beginning in 2000 (nitrogen oxides, along with sulfur dioxide, contribute to acid rain formation).*

Despite these criticisms, Texas has embraced several of these new market-based approaches in its effort to reduce pollution.
http://www.texasep.org/html/air/air_1nfa_mkt.html

ChaseDC

Quote: Originally posted by Billyfromsphily
Study What??..............................Research what?????

Who the fuck are you kidding!!!! You just cut and paste bullshit from Rush and other neo idiots!

Comprehension is something you have not learned so shut the fuck up!

Its rich seeing you practice your deep seeded denial ! Thats the only truth about you LIEMASTER !

Exactly. The fucking dick tries to prove me wrong with another link.

Linking doesn't prove that he is more knowledgeable than Gore. it just proves he knows how to google.

ChaseDC

Assbonnet.

:npp:

Timmy

If your gonna talk all that shit, you should live off the grid. If Darrly Hannah can do it, why cant Gore??

NCMike06

Quote: Originally posted by Stickman
PLEASE show one ten year period in history in which the earth was as hot as it is now, increasing as much and as fast as it has the last ten years.

Ever hear of the Midieval Warming Period???

http://earth.usc.edu/geol150/evolut...stmillenia.html

http://www.co2science.org/scripts/C...t_1thousand.jsp

Happy reading :)

As for the last 10 years:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/...4/09/do0907.xml

Quote: There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998

By Bob Carter
Last Updated: 12:01am BST 09/04/2006

For many years now, human-caused climate change has been viewed as a large and urgent problem. In truth, however, the biggest part of the problem is neither environmental nor scientific, but a self-created political fiasco. Consider the simple fact, drawn from the official temperature records of the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia, that for the years 1998-2005 global average temperature did not increase (there was actually a slight decrease, though not at a rate that differs significantly from zero).

Yes, you did read that right. And also, yes, this eight-year period of temperature stasis did coincide with society's continued power station and SUV-inspired pumping of yet more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere.

Did you know that the earth has only warmed about .6 C in the past 100 years. ?

Did you know that the majority of that warming occurred pre 1940?

Did you know that the earth cooled from 1940ish until the mid 70's, causing the global cooling scare of the mid 70's?

Did you know that NUMEROUS studies have shown that the global temperature increases have historically PRECEEDED a CO2 increase.? THe 20th Century was NO different.

Did you know that the entire Global Alarmist scare is based on unproven models...the predictions of which have been lowered in each successive IPCC report.?

Timmy

By the way, what is up with "carbon offsett?". Does that mean rich people can pollute all they want so long as they buy their way out of guilt? CRACKER PLEASE!!

FatesWebb

Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Then you would be happy to explain the periods of time in our history where the earth was warmer/cooler/warmer again than it is now....before the evil capitalist pig, or the evil SUV.

huh? ok so it happens every year, you have this because plants go dormant during the winter, and they are not sucking down carbons... while they are dormant, then in the summer when they are not dormant they are sucking down the carbons, which causes the effect you mention on a yearly basis... sorta like the earth taking a yearly breath....

other than that there have only been 2 warming periods in the past 300 thousand years. and they were nothing compared to third one that has happened in the last 15 years. record temperatures across the board, actually the top 10 record temperatures have all happened in the last 15 years.

which yes they can tell the temperature 300 thousand years ago by sampling the ice from very low, since the ice was layed down in layers year after year.. sorta like a trees rings. they drill down for samples and then analize it for oxygen, carbon etc, and they can tell the temperature at that time as well as the carbon content etc....

Your in denial. that is the "inconvenient" part of "an inconvenient truth"

FW

Billyfromsphily

Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
You are the one making the nonsensical claim about man being responsible for something that has been going on for millions of years. I am asking you to prove it.... in the context of other periods of time where the climate was warmer than today.

Have someone explain it to you.

Thats the kettle calling the pot black!

"Have someone explain it to you"?

You have no comprehension skills and you suggest this?

You would die without cut and paste!

booybob

Quote: Originally posted by Timmy
By the way, what is up with "carbon offsett?". Does that mean rich people can pollute all they want so long as they buy their way out of guilt? CRACKER PLEASE!!

It is a typical rich mans idea, do as I say not as I do.
All these left wing enviromental types drive an suv, fly in private jets, speed 30.,000$per year on utilities. They want the common man to change, but they don't want to.

zimmie

Just think of all the power consumed by all of us because of Al Gore's previous creation........

THE INTERNET

Have the astronauts been able to identify his house from space yet?

Billyfromsphily

Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Just think of all the power consumed by all of us because of Al Gore's previous creation........

THE INTERNET

Have the astronauts been able to identify his house from space yet?

No, but they did see your cave on the last mission to Mars!

DUDE-HERE

Group questions level of energy use at Gore home
High electric billing records show 'green power' also was purchased

By ANNE PAINE
Staff Writer

A day after a film about his efforts to combat global warming won an Oscar, former Vice President Al Gore was called a hypocrite by a Tennessee group that said his Belle Meade home is consuming too much energy.

The home's average monthly electric bill last year was just under $1,200, according to bills that The Tennessean acquired from Nashville Electric Service.

"As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk (the) walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," said Drew Johnson, president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, identified as a free-market think tank.

Gore's power bill shows, however, that the former vice president may be doing just that.

Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills.

That's a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources.

The green power Gore purchased in those three months is equivalent to recycling 2.48 million aluminum cans or 286,092 pounds of newspaper, according to comparison figures on NES' Web site.

NES joined the TVA program in 2000 to give power customers a way to support environmentally sound sources of electricity. The Tennessean could not determine when Gore signed up for green power.

NES gets its electricity from TVA. Most is produced from coal, which emits carbon, a greenhouse gas. A lesser amount comes from nuclear power and a small amount from hydroelectric.

An Inconvenient Truth, the movie about Gore's global warming battle, details how greenhouse gases are trapping heat next to the earth, causing a changing climate with melting ice caps and more violent storms.

"Every family has a different carbon footprint," said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore. The Gores' 10,000-square-foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard has a large one.

The Green Power Switch program isn't all that Gore and his wife, Tipper, are doing, Krider said.

They use compact fluorescent light bulbs and are in the midst of a renovation project that includes having solar panels installed on their home to reduce fossil fuel consumption, she said.

Their car? A Lexis hybrid SUV.

"They, of course, also do the carbon emissions offset," she said.

That means figuring out how much carbon is emitted from home power use, and vehicle and plane travel, then paying for projects that will offset that with use of renewable energy, such as solar power.

Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe, she said.

Johnson, whose group usually focuses on government spending issues, said he "doesn't differ much from Al Gore on his environmental concerns."

"We went into this just asking the question, 'Is the leader of the environmental movement basically living up to his word?' Given that he's a Tennessean, I thought it's a question we should ask."

What they found is someone whose home uses as much power in a month as an average family would use in a year, he said.

In addition to the electric bill, the natural gas bill for Gore's home and guesthouse ran $1,080 per month last year, Johnson said.

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement."

Rather than attacking one man — Gore — Johnson and his group should be taking a larger view and trying to make a difference to reduce global warming, Krider said.

That should include helping to get government and corporations, which are big energy users, on board to reduce energy and move to renewable resources, she said.

"They're trying to single out one person rather than look at the big picture," Krider said.

FatesWebb

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
Group questions level of energy use at Gore home
High electric billing records show 'green power' also was purchased

By ANNE PAINE
Staff Writer

A day after a film about his efforts to combat global warming won an Oscar, former Vice President Al Gore was called a hypocrite by a Tennessee group that said his Belle Meade home is consuming too much energy.

The home's average monthly electric bill last year was just under $1,200, according to bills that The Tennessean acquired from Nashville Electric Service.

"As the spokesman of choice for the global warming movement, Al Gore has to be willing to walk (the) walk, not just talk the talk, when it comes to home energy use," said Drew Johnson, president of the Tennessee Center for Policy Research, identified as a free-market think tank.

Gore's power bill shows, however, that the former vice president may be doing just that.

Gore purchased 108 blocks of "green power" for each of the past three months, according to a summary of the bills.

That's a total of $432 a month Gore paid extra for solar or other renewable energy sources.

The green power Gore purchased in those three months is equivalent to recycling 2.48 million aluminum cans or 286,092 pounds of newspaper, according to comparison figures on NES' Web site.

NES joined the TVA program in 2000 to give power customers a way to support environmentally sound sources of electricity. The Tennessean could not determine when Gore signed up for green power.

NES gets its electricity from TVA. Most is produced from coal, which emits carbon, a greenhouse gas. A lesser amount comes from nuclear power and a small amount from hydroelectric.

An Inconvenient Truth, the movie about Gore's global warming battle, details how greenhouse gases are trapping heat next to the earth, causing a changing climate with melting ice caps and more violent storms.

"Every family has a different carbon footprint," said Kalee Krider, a spokeswoman for Gore. The Gores' 10,000-square-foot house on Lynnwood Boulevard has a large one.

The Green Power Switch program isn't all that Gore and his wife, Tipper, are doing, Krider said.

They use compact fluorescent light bulbs and are in the midst of a renovation project that includes having solar panels installed on their home to reduce fossil fuel consumption, she said.

Their car? A Lexis hybrid SUV.

"They, of course, also do the carbon emissions offset," she said.

That means figuring out how much carbon is emitted from home power use, and vehicle and plane travel, then paying for projects that will offset that with use of renewable energy, such as solar power.

Gore helped found Generation Investment Management, through which he and others pay for offsets. The firm invests the money in solar, wind and other projects that reduce energy consumption around the globe, she said.

Johnson, whose group usually focuses on government spending issues, said he "doesn't differ much from Al Gore on his environmental concerns."

"We went into this just asking the question, 'Is the leader of the environmental movement basically living up to his word?' Given that he's a Tennessean, I thought it's a question we should ask."

What they found is someone whose home uses as much power in a month as an average family would use in a year, he said.

In addition to the electric bill, the natural gas bill for Gore's home and guesthouse ran $1,080 per month last year, Johnson said.

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement."

Rather than attacking one man — Gore — Johnson and his group should be taking a larger view and trying to make a difference to reduce global warming, Krider said.

That should include helping to get government and corporations, which are big energy users, on board to reduce energy and move to renewable resources, she said.

"They're trying to single out one person rather than look at the big picture," Krider said.

Wow, so your retracting your initial claims, and agreeing that gore is doing the right thing? your amazing Dude-Here, never let anyone tell you any different. thanks for admiting you were wrong.

FW

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
Wow, so your retracting your initial claims, and agreeing that gore is doing the right thing? your amazing Dude-Here, never let anyone tell you any different. thanks for admiting you were wrong.

FW

at the end of that article they still question his use..and call him a waster

" "We went into this just asking the question, 'Is the leader of the environmental movement basically living up to his word?' Given that he's a Tennessean, I thought it's a question we should ask."

What they found is someone whose home uses as much power in a month as an average family would use in a year, he said.

In addition to the electric bill, the natural gas bill for Gore's home and guesthouse ran $1,080 per month last year, Johnson said.

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement."

Rather than attacking one man — Gore — Johnson and his group should be taking a larger view and trying to make a difference to reduce global warming, Krider said.

That should include helping to get government and corporations, which are big energy users, on board to reduce energy and move to renewable resources, she said.

"They're trying to single out one person rather than look at the big picture," Krider said. "

but i guesss you didn't read this part

typical

FatesWebb

I think you misunderstood, they only brought that up to point out that johnson was not paying attention to the fact that Gore has reduced his carbon footprint, and is paying for greener energy. you even pasted in your message above...

Rather than attacking one man — Gore — Johnson and his group should be taking a larger view and trying to make a difference to reduce global warming, Krider said.

That should include helping to get government and corporations, which are big energy users, on board to reduce energy and move to renewable resources, she said.

"They're trying to single out one person rather than look at the big picture," Krider said. "

this is pointing out that Johnson did not do his research, and is narrow minded. The only reason your quote is there

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement." -Johnson

is to point out that johnson is narrow minded, and not looking at the whole picture.

Dude just admit it, you made a mistake and posted an article that is meant to debunk your first post....

I still love ya, but that is what happened.....

SaintJimmy

Quote: Originally posted by FatesWebb
I think you misunderstood, they only brought that up to point out that johnson was not paying attention to the fact that Gore has reduced his carbon footprint, and is paying for greener energy. you even pasted in your message above...

Rather than attacking one man — Gore — Johnson and his group should be taking a larger view and trying to make a difference to reduce global warming, Krider said.

That should include helping to get government and corporations, which are big energy users, on board to reduce energy and move to renewable resources, she said.

"They're trying to single out one person rather than look at the big picture," Krider said. "

this is pointing out that Johnson did not do his research, and is narrow minded. The only reason your quote is there

"For someone in his position not to take steps to reduce his own energy consumption is disingenuous," he said. "He's simply not taking all the steps he can take and should take as the leader of the environmental movement." -Johnson

is to point out that johnson is narrow minded, and not looking at the whole picture.

Dude just admit it, you made a mistake and posted an article that is meant to debunk your first post....

I still love ya, but that is what happened.....

Quit picking on DUDE.

He can't read.

DUDE-HERE

SO WHAT...IS HE WRONG

Look Al Gore shoudl know people are gonna come after him if his house is not in order...lets look at ed begley...if al gore would be more liek him ..thanm articles like this wouldn't come out
begley makes his own power through solar and he creates so much and stores it that he sells it to LA DWP. dept water and power..him i respect..i respect gore too and i saw his movie and to a degree i agree with him. there has never been this many people on the planet..so who knows..i hope he's wrong but i am not a scientist so i can do is trust people who are giving me the information. there are both sides who say yes and no. my problem is both sides of scientists get grants to prove it or disprove it which is the way they support themselves and their familys. and when it all boils down people care more about that then the world or the planet and who knows maybe they convince themselves right or wrong, they do.

everyone still arguing a non-substantiated drudgereport story - nobody figure out this is bullshit yet?

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
everyone still arguing a non-substantiated drudgereport story - nobody figure out this is bullshit yet?

yea shoot the messenger lol

nevermind its true

but its not from a liberally approved news source, so therefore it must be bullshit

now if it were posted in infowars.com or crooks and liars.com

then i would believe it

lol

booybob

Al Gore has been preaching about global warming for the last 7yrs.
Why is it that he is just starting to do the right thing with solar power,etc??

Instead of just talking, shouldnt he be leading?

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
yea shoot the messenger lol

nevermind its true

but its not from a liberally approved news source, so therefore it must be bullshit

now if it were posted in infowars.com or crooks and liars.com

then i would believe it

lol

inforwars i don't believe, do you? - crooksandliars just posts clips and editorial - this piss poor drudgereport doesn't even have a good source and lists it as fact - do you know the difference here?

angrychink

that's almost like dumbya

saying we need to try to start limiting fossil fuel usage by 10-15%

6 years after he gets into office

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by booybob
Al Gore has been preaching about global warming for the last 7yrs.
Why is it that he is just starting to do the right thing with solar power,etc??

Instead of just talking, shouldnt he be leading?

7 years..wanna shoot for over 20

and during his VPship..he did nothing

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
7 years..wanna shoot for over 20

and during his VPship..he did nothing

prove it - Gore has a lot more foresight than you give him credit for - he's not a hypocrite like Bono :rolleyes:

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
inforwars i don't believe, do you? - crooksandliars just posts clips and editorial - this piss poor drudgereport doesn't even have a good source and lists it as fact - do you know the difference here?

the fact comes from

Tennessee Center for Policy Research

but i guess you don't like them

they too are not a liberally approved source

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
prove it - Gore has a lot more foresight than you give him credit for - he's not a hypocrite like Bono :rolleyes:

he isn't ?

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
the fact comes from

Tennessee Center for Policy Research

but i guess you don't like them

they too are not a liberally approved source

don't be a dummy and do your research on your source
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php

angrychink

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
don't be a dummy and do your research on your source
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php

sup oz

don't you think people have been trying to pound that into it's tiny repuke pea brain?

facts are like kryptonite to a repuke

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
don't be a dummy and do your research on your source
http://www.tennesseepolicy.org/main/page.php

whats wrong with the source

oh yea

its not a liberally approved source
.
sorry i forgot

angrychink

dude

you keep forgetting

liberals don't require approval, they're free thinkers, remember?

it's the repukes who need these stupid fucking approvals, because of their self righteous ignorance

you're dimissed

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
prove it - Gore has a lot more foresight than you give him credit for - he's not a hypocrite like Bono :rolleyes:

he uses 20 times more energy than the average person....thats proof enough for me

where is his hybrd limo..where is hollywoods hybrid limo..or bio diesal limo?

where ?

daryl hanna has a bio diesal..she is not a hypocrit ..we don't agree politically but she is not a hypocrit neither is ed begley..and i know we don't agree politically but i respect him

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
he uses 20 times more energy than the average person....thats proof enough for me

where is his hybrd limo..where is hollywoods hybrid limo..or bio diesal limo?

where ?

daryl hanna has a bio diesal..she is not a hypocrit ..we don't agree politically but she is not a hypocrit neither is ed begley..and i know we don't agree politically but i respect him

Dude-Here sucks cock for a living and kicks homeless children - that enough proof for everybody?

You see DH - you can't believe everything you read on the internet....or can you?

WV Booker

IT'S THE EMISSIONS, STUPID...... the amount of energy consumed isn't an issue and Gore has never proposed limits on the amount people use..... the issue is the emissions that come from energy production.....

fuckin idiots......

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by WV Booker
IT'S THE EMISSIONS, STUPID...... the amount of energy consumed isn't an issue and Gore has never proposed limits on the amount people use..... the issue is the emissions that come from energy production.....

fuckin idiots......

lol..thats funny

so cars don't effect global warming

lol..thats news to me

go watch inconvenient truth stupit

WV Booker

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
lol..thats funny

so cars don't effect global warming

lol..thats news to me

go watch inconvenient truth stupit

boy, now that's ironic...... enough with your calling me stupiD while misspelling it......

the thread YOU STARTED is about his home energy use.... if YOU want to talk about cars start another thread......

angrychink

pitt

phone call for stu pitt

Reed Rothchild

Al Gore and all the rest of the global warming alarmists need to just STFU. They don't realize that short term corporate profits are much more important than the long term health of the environment, I mean, how many of you are going to be around in a hundred years anyway? And everyone knows that no theory can be taken as fact until 100% of all scientists everywhere in the entire world completely agree.

otherone4life

I'm sure those folks are non partisan ...mrrrr

Halcyon

If Gore is preaching about Global Warming, and meanwhile he's living in a giant mansion with massive amounts of wasted power....

I think he's a fucking dick.

But that doesn't disprove Global Warming isn't man-made. I'm still waiting for these morons claiming that it isn't man-made to prove to me it isn't.

Showing a trend that the Earth heats up on it's own by 1 degree every so often really doesn't prove shit to me that it ISN'T man-made. All it proves is that the Earth heats up every so often on it's own by 1 degree.

EDIT: ChaseDC.... great new AV :btu:

SDVT-2

Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon

Showing a trend that the Earth heats up on it's own by 1 degree every so often really doesn't prove shit to me that it ISN'T man-made. All it proves is that the Earth heats up every so often on it's own by 1 degree.

:scratch:

Halcyon

Quote: Originally posted by SDVT-2
:scratch:

Slowly.... re-read it, very slowly. And ask yourself what each word means.

I know you can do it.

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
If Gore is preaching about Global Warming, and meanwhile he's living in a giant mansion with massive amounts of wasted power....

I think he's a fucking dick.

But that doesn't disprove Global Warming isn't man-made. I'm still waiting for these morons claiming that it isn't man-made to prove to me it isn't.

Showing a trend that the Earth heats up on it's own by 1 degree every so often really doesn't prove shit to me that it ISN'T man-made. All it proves is that the Earth heats up every so often on it's own by 1 degree.

EDIT: ChaseDC.... great new AV :btu:

agreed

hey angrychink why not jump all over hal for calling gore a dick

kali

rent solar panels

this site proposes the interesting idea that instead of investing a large amount of money Buying solar panels, rent them and end up paying a set amount according to the contract you make with them.

btw, like gore i have been using low energy light bulbs for about 20 years and no one is giving me a metal for it. but it DOES save money on bulbs and energy. and that's reward enough for me.

betabryan

Gore's carbon toe print is 10x the average carbon footprint.

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by WV Booker
boy, now that's ironic...... enough with your calling me stupiD while misspelling it......

the thread YOU STARTED is about his home energy use.... if YOU want to talk about cars start another thread......

lol...what do u hear when you listen to howard ?

angrychink

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
agreed

hey angrychink why not jump all over hal for calling gore a dick

dude

you don't seem to understand

everybody is entitled to their opinion

just when you show yours

it is so incredibly fucking stupid that people have to tell you that

there's a slight difference

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
lol...what do u hear when you listen to howard ?

you still believe this is a real story?

Timmy

Gore doesnt have to have such a large footprint. Thats like saying im an enviromentalist cause i lowerd my Escalade by a 1/2 inch to improve my highway drag.

Hes a waster. Which isnt so bad accept he talks so much shit.

are people just totally unable to read? the article isn't real - :doh:

oat

I wish I had a big house..... I can imagine what these dipshits would be saying if that article was about Bush..........

Billyfromsphily

They would say the usual, FREE MARKET ! He can afford it , type of shit!

angrychink

that's just it

if it was bush it would be endless justification (i mean, look at what these ass clowns are saying to justify this fucking war)

instead...they bash gore ?!?

fuck, talk about no fucking program/agenda

tourette_ticker

Quote: Originally posted by Oz
are people just totally unable to read? the article isn't real - :doh:

What do I read to show the article isn't real?

Timmy

Its like an evangelist cheating on his wife. People cheat on thier wives, but if you get on your soapbox and preach agaisnt it, well you best no be fucking any whores.

Quote: Originally posted by tourette_ticker
What do I read to show the article isn't real?

the source is a republican source that's main message is to discredit democrats - the story is carried nowhere else as an independent source - drudge even initially carried the story as non-linked source which is always a sign of bullshit

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
dude

you don't seem to understand

everybody is entitled to their opinion

just when you show yours

it is so incredibly fucking stupid that people have to tell you that

there's a slight difference

unless you a republican and then your opinions don't matter much to a demorat..

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by oat
I wish I had a big house..... I can imagine what these dipshits would be saying if that article was about Bush..........

oh if it were bush..forget it

AHHHH HAAAAAA GOT CHA

angrychink

Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
unless you a republican and then your opinions don't matter much to a demorat..

wrong wrong wrong yet again

you stupid motherfucker

you just happen to be a repuke

and you just happen to have some stupid fucking ideologies

mostly because of the fact that you are a bush ass licking repuke

the two just seen to happen coincidentally that way - stupid motherfuckers like you and bush ass lickers

DUDE-HERE

Quote: Originally posted by angrychink
wrong wrong wrong yet again

you stupid motherfucker

you just happen to be a repuke

and you just happen to have some stupid fucking ideologies

mostly because of the fact that you are a bush ass licking repuke

the two just seen to happen coincidentally that way - stupid motherfuckers like you and bush ass lickers

so if i am a repub and think like you then my opinions will count and i won't be dumb anymore

wow..can i be a pussy ass just like you

angrychink

if you were a repub

you'd be ignorantly telling people how great bush was...while ignoring what a dumbfuck he was

kinda like you, now

you'll still be dumb

Ass Boil