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Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
If you go to www.oriontelescopes.com they will give you options on different types of scopes for you. I would recommend the 4 1/2" Dobsonian to start with. it's only around $200, and you'll like what it can do!
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thanks for the link there PIR ,just ordered me a catalog |
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| rigmover2307 |
Quote: Originally posted by Pendulus Frenulum
Top one is a 900 MHz NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) machine. We use it to determine 3-dimensional structures of proteins.
Second one is an HPLC (high pressure liquid chromotography) machine. Use that to purify proteins.
Last one is a Mass Spectrometer. Use that to determine mass of purified proteins. |
Sweet! and to think, my bosses complain about buying a new toggle switch, anyone up for replacing some of this stuff? |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Pendulus Frenulum
Top one is a 900 MHz NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) machine. We use it to determine 3-dimensional structures of proteins.
Second one is an HPLC (high pressure liquid chromotography) machine. Use that to purify proteins.
Last one is a Mass Spectrometer. Use that to determine mass of purified proteins. |
That's too cool. OK, I was in the ballpark on the first two, anyway hehee |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
thanks for the link there PIR ,just ordered me a catalog |
Anytime. If you need any kind of help or advice, let me know. I've been doing this for a looong time. When my classmates in school were out getting high, I was up at 4am tracking Comet Halley. Yes, I lay out all night watching meteor showers, even in NY when it was 10* out.
Call me an addict! |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Call me an addict! |
Addict in a bag ... can we package and market that?! :D
Oh yeah, it's already been done. They call it COFFEE! :D |
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| Pendulus Frenulum |
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
Sweet! and to think, my bosses complain about buying a new toggle switch, anyone up for replacing some of this stuff? |
The NMR is around $8-10 million. Nothing is scarier than working with something that expensive. Breaking an NMR machine isn't like dropping a beaker. |
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| rigmover2307 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Anytime. If you need any kind of help or advice, let me know. I've been doing this for a looong time. When my classmates in school were out getting high, I was up at 4am tracking Comet Halley. Yes, I lay out all night watching meteor showers, even in NY when it was 10* out.
Call me an addict! |
i was 11 when halley came through town, i wanted to see it soooooo bad, but i lived with my grandfather at the time and he was a hard ass and an alcoholic, we werent allowed out after dark. he said i could see it next time. |
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| yeah, like im gonna hit 86. i'll be lucky to make 66 |
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| unless of course "martin" comes through with some of that biotech stuff they were talking about on howard last week. then i could just transfer my mind to a clone, and keep on going. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Pendulus Frenulum
The NMR is around $8-10 million. Nothing is scarier than working with something that expensive. Breaking an NMR machine isn't like dropping a beaker. |
I would imagine these machines are used mostly in hospital-type labs? |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
i was 11 when halley came through town, i wanted to see it soooooo bad, but i lived with my grandfather at the time and he was a hard ass and an alcoholic, we werent allowed out after dark. he said i could see it next time. |
That bites. We've had better comets since then, (Hale-Bopp, Hyakutake, McNaught) but halley is the most famous. I tracked it from Nov 1985- Apr 1986. You might see it next time! I'll try to, but i'll be 91 hehee
There are plenty of other comets up there, some are too dim to see, occasionally a bright one comes around. Recently, Mcnaught was visible in daylight! Brightest comet in 41 years!
I subscribe to Astronomy and Sky and telescope magazines. if you read their websites, you'll know what's going on up there at anytime.
www.astronomy.com
www.skytonight.com |
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| Kengro |
If your going into model ships you might wanna consider a kit the first few times, i'll buy drawings and make every single part of the ship myself. That's very time consuming and at times extremly difficult, but it can be done.
But the first few times a kit is the best way...
Kits are laser cut, so you don't have to make the same part 200 times. Experience is the name of this game...
But it's some of the mors rewarding things you can do, and it won't make you nuts if you don't dive in way over your head.
This is some of the best kits out there, it's the perfect one to start with. It's a hard one, but not impossible http://www.model-dockyard.com/amati/mayflower.asp |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Kengro
If your going into model ships you might wanna consider a kit the first few times, i'll buy drawings and make every single part of the ship myself. That's very time consuming and at times extremly difficult, but it can be done.
But the first few times a kit is the best way...
Kits are laser cut, so you don't have to make the same part 200 times. Experience is the name of this game...
But it's some of the mors rewarding things you can do, and it won't make you nuts if you don't dive in way over your head.
This is some of the best kits out there, it's the perfect one to start with. It's a hard one, but not impossible http://www.model-dockyard.com/amati/mayflower.asp |
Cool, thanks. Years ago, my brother did a similar ship to that one. I forget which one. It may have been the Cutty Sark. It looks like fun to do, and you have a nice shelf trophy when you're done! |
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| Kengro |
They look very good on the shelf...
But it takes a couple of years to get that far |
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| Pendulus Frenulum |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I would imagine these machines are used mostly in hospital-type labs? |
Research labs. I'm a biochemist. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Pendulus Frenulum
Research labs. I'm a biochemist. |
Oh, you rule, man! What degree, if any, did you need to get into that? Or was it separate schooling?
I studied Biology in school, and I love all Sciences. I'm curious how you got into it. |
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| azkellie |
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| Pendulus Frenulum |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Oh, you rule, man! What degree, if any, did you need to get into that? Or was it separate schooling?
I studied Biology in school, and I love all Sciences. I'm curious how you got into it. |
I have a bachelors in Biochemistry and a doctorate in Biochemistry & Cell Biology. Unless you feel like spending 10 years in college, I wouldn't consider it as a career. |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I'll throw a science question out there, since we'd all be involved in this:
The last 10 years or so, Astronomers have recorded Near-Earth Asteroids passing WAAAY too close to Earth. If one should be in our path of impact, what do you think is the best way to avoid that happening?
I can't say "blow it up" because now you have 150 asteroids hitting us. I think the best thing is, design a probe we can launch, attach itself to the asteroid, and gently 'push' it out of it's current path with jets. It may cost a lot, but it would be well worth it!
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Heya PIR,
The beginning of any realistic solution is support for science in the first place. Support for projects to find, track and map these bodies.
If an object is far enough out when it's discovered and action is taken, it takes only a relatively mild force to change its path enough to eliminate the danger. If, on the other hand an object isn't recognised until one can see it with binoculars, well we're pretty much phuck'd.!
The real problem here is much bigger, not just a question of earth passing bodies, but of societys support for raw science in general. Public will to fund exploratory astronomy, particle physics, experimental medicine, etc, etc... has become very low. This shortsightness on the part of voters will at worse lead to disaster such as global extinction, at best prevent us from the benefits of some science that we do not discover because we did not fund the base research.
Keep in mind, we are all here, in front of our Macs and Linux boxes, {okay some of you are in front of windows virus machines, but that's your own choice and nothing can help ya. *G*}, because Prez Kennedy decided man should go to the moon, without Appollo, the Home Computer revolution would never have happened. On the same track, without the Hubble Space Telescope, digital cameras and camcorders would not have happened.
Payback for science spending can not be predicted up front, but it's always there, one only needs to see past the self-centred, 'Me, Here, Now' thinking and look further down the road.
Peace .. SvS |
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Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I watch those a lot too, when I have time to actually watch TV hehee.
OK, I'll throw this out there:
What is everyone's stance on Flying Saucers? I have family and friends who were in the military. IMO, I think there's more going on out there than is let on, and I've had some confirmation on certain things.
Anyone disagree? |
Infinity seems to be a difficult concept to grasp, plus the fact that several thousand years of Christian mind control has limited what some are even able to conceive...
It's pretty obvious when one allows ones mind to grasp the thing... In an Infinite Universe, there can only be Infinite variety. It is inconceivable to a thinking mind that the basic organic chemistry which lead to life, and the evolution of life which lead to sentience only happened on this particular fly spec. Such an idea is utterly unrealistic. Of course there is other life out there, it's just to utterly unlikely for it to be any other way.
Peace .. SvS |
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Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
Just thought I'd thow this out there, but it sounds like most of us are big science buffs. Does that include evolution? How does creationism factor into anyone's belief, or does it? I studied geology in college and have made a career in a branch of that science...
The sun just dropped below the horizon...I gonna run outside to check for the moon...Be back shortly... :p |
I could really Rant on this issue, but instead I'll quote the Late Great Robert Heinlein...
"The most preposterous notion that H.sapiens has ever dreamed up is that the Lord God of Creation, Shaper and Ruler of all the Universes, wants the saccharine adoration of His creatures, can be swayed by their prauers, and becomes petulant if He doe's not receive this flattery. Yet this absurd fantasy, without a shred of evidence to bolster it, pays all the expenses of the oldest, largest, and least productive industry in all history. The second most preposterous, notion is that copulation is inherently sinful." R.Heinlein
er... I'm a practice'n Agnostic, {Hoping to get good at it someday}, and I'll accept God and Creationism the very day such a being shows up for coffee. Until then, for Me, something is a Fact when it can be proven, written in math, and the proof repeated, until then 'tis not but Opinion.
Peace ,, SvS |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
haven't read that, will look it up. another cool book is called The Bell Curve, explains how the farther away from the equator native peoples originated, the more intelligence they posessed. interesting reading....:tu: |
A real Kool book for anyone of any level interested in Astronomy is...
First Light: The Search for the Edge of the Universe (Hardcover)
by Richard Preston (Author) |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
I don't have television. |
That Mr. Scales... is probably the single best thing a person can do to find the potential of their own mind.
Peace .. SvS |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by Pendulus Frenulum
Top one is a 900 MHz NMR (nuclear magnetic resonance) machine. We use it to determine 3-dimensional structures of proteins.
Second one is an HPLC (high pressure liquid chromotography) machine. Use that to purify proteins.
Last one is a Mass Spectrometer. Use that to determine mass of purified proteins. |
Phuck man, you've an excellent job... Please tell me ya get to go in after hours and play with that shit.
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woooeeee... I caught up. Damn wouldn't ya know it, and excellent thread starts while I'm tied up with work...
Peace .. SvS |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by Garlic Knot
I play guitar I have a woodgrain gibson explorer. |
That is a cool guitar. When did you get it?
The year I bought my SG, they made some in Korina wood. It is a rare hardwood that they used to use for Explorers and flying V's.
The Korina SG was quite expensive back in 1992, I'm not sure if they still use that wood to make guitars.
What I do know, is that the old explorers and flying V's made out of that wood can be hellish expensive. I think a few of the old flying V's have sold for $200,000!!!
Does yours have a white pick guard like this one
Gibsons rule! |
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| Pendulus Frenulum |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Phuck man, you've an excellent job... Please tell me ya get to go in after hours and play with that shit.
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I can play with any of it any time I want. In fact, it's called work. My boss would love for me to spend all day and all night "playing" with the equipment. |
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| Mytee Mouse |
<a href="http://photobucket.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o128/acungaro/fat007.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a>Hers one of my geckos
I keep them and am curently trying to hatch eggs!
Also a drummer and a bit of a "GARDENER" |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Yeah, point taken, and I bet the boss would so...
That's always the trouble with interesting work, if you'd secretly be willing to do it for free, bosses typically will take advantage of that.
Are you in a private lab, or dependent on public funding, and consequently public shortsightness.? |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by azkellie
Heres the pics i promised yesterday ;)
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Nice.
Did you find all of the stuff in the second picture? Does that turtle shell have a tail? |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Pendulus Frenulum
I have a bachelors in Biochemistry and a doctorate in Biochemistry & Cell Biology. Unless you feel like spending 10 years in college, I wouldn't consider it as a career. |
hehee..I was studying Science in school, and somehow wound up in Finance. At least you're doing what you wanted to do. Main thing. |
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| im in a band named Better Luck Next Time, i play guitar. pretty busy with that. i have a couple chinchillas and some geckos. they're rad. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Heya PIR,
The beginning of any realistic solution is support for science in the first place. The real problem here is much bigger, not just a question of earth passing bodies, but of societys support for raw science in general. Public will to fund exploratory astronomy, particle physics, experimental medicine, etc, etc... has become very low. This shortsightness on the part of voters will at worse lead to disaster such as global extinction, at best prevent us from the benefits of some science that we do not discover because we did not fund the base research.
Keep in mind, we are all here, in front of our Macs and Linux boxes, {okay some of you are in front of windows virus machines, but that's your own choice and nothing can help ya. *G*}, because Prez Kennedy decided man should go to the moon, without Appollo, the Home Computer revolution would never have happened. On the same track, without the Hubble Space Telescope, digital cameras and camcorders would not have happened.
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You're 100% right. I'd say 85% of any group, anywhere, you ask about basic sciences, they don't care. yet, they are using these sciences all day, every day. And Gov't funding is hard enough to attain, let alone public funding. "Don't see, don't care." It's not anyone's fault, it's just the way you're life develops.
I grew up in NY City. I shouldn't be interested in the things I'm interested in. Why? Because I should have been focused on the 'big city' life. Not looking at an asteroid through a telescope.
Believe me, there are plenty of people who have these interests. But if you look at all 8 million of them, 90% could care less. Until that asteroid lands on their region.
I always found it strange that someone wouldn't care about, say, looking at a comet. Yet, that comet may have seeded their life right here years ago.
Maybe that's why Public Servants don't focus on the things you mentioned. No one cares! |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Infinity seems to be a difficult concept to grasp, plus the fact that several thousand years of Christian mind control has limited what some are even able to conceive...
It's pretty obvious when one allows ones mind to grasp the thing... In an Infinite Universe, there can only be Infinite variety. It is inconceivable to a thinking mind that the basic organic chemistry which lead to life, and the evolution of life which lead to sentience only happened on this particular fly spec. Such an idea is utterly unrealistic. Of course there is other life out there, it's just to utterly unlikely for it to be any other way.
Peace .. SvS |
True. Religeons all have their own views. I grew up Christian, but there are 2 views that are known.
1 is, God created man, and that's it.
2 is, God created man, and ALL LIFE across the universe, including the universe.
So, I ignored both statements, because they negate each other. And now i have my own views on all of that, focusing on the real science of it. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Mytee Mouse
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Also a drummer and a bit of a "GARDENER" |
Cool..my first instrument was drums, I was about 10 or 12. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
? Does that turtle shell have a tail? |
hehe I saw that, I figured it was alive. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by snappy
im in a band named Better Luck Next Time, i play guitar. pretty busy with that. i have a couple chinchillas and some geckos. they're rad. |
Post some pics! |
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| Garlic Knot |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
woooeeee... I caught up. Damn wouldn't ya know it, and excellent thread starts while I'm tied up with work...
Peace .. SvS |
Awesome guitar, It does have the white pick guard. I got it in 2000 I walked into the music shack and walked out with that plus a fender hot rod deluxe tube amp. I mainly use my marshall with the other guitar.
I dont get to play much cuz it annoys my wife... Why did I get married? I have been delegated to using full sized headphones when I play.
I wonder will Heather make Bubba give up anything he loves? Is the Brett Farve picture over the fireplace safe? |
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| PriceIsRight |
Comet Halley 1986
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
You're 100% right. I'd say 85% of any group, anywhere, you ask about basic sciences, they don't care. yet, they are using these sciences all day, every day. And Gov't funding is hard enough to attain, let alone public funding. "Don't see, don't care." It's not anyone's fault, it's just the way you're life develops.
I grew up in NY City. I shouldn't be interested in the things I'm interested in. Why? Because I should have been focused on the 'big city' life. Not looking at an asteroid through a telescope.
Believe me, there are plenty of people who have these interests. But if you look at all 8 million of them, 90% could care less. Until that asteroid lands on their region.
I always found it strange that someone wouldn't care about, say, looking at a comet. Yet, that comet may have seeded their life right here years ago.
Maybe that's why Public Servants don't focus on the things you mentioned. No one cares! |
Holy man, learn'n Astronomy and the appreciation there of in the Light Pollution of New York... I'm sure that qualifys you as 'hard core'. The first time you sat outside in the Mountains, {assuming you've had that privlege}, musta left you speachless.
Many people outside the world of hard science have huge interest, and plenty of will to support these important researches, unfortunately demogracy isn't about 'many of us, or lots of us' it's only about the majority of voters, and even sadder when some of those who's votes would mean the most, opt out of the process.
Peace .. SvS |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
True. Religeons all have their own views. I grew up Christian, but there are 2 views that are known.
1 is, God created man, and that's it.
2 is, God created man, and ALL LIFE across the universe, including the universe.
So, I ignored both statements, because they negate each other. And now i have my own views on all of that, focusing on the real science of it. |
Probably the safest choice man...
"I regard religious experience as very risky, because it can destroy your brain." M.L.Minsky |
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| "When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it, when you can not measure it, when you can not express it in numbers, your knowledge is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind; it may be the beginning of knowledge, but you have scarecely in your thoughts advanced to the stage of science."Lord Kelvin |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Holy man, learn'n Astronomy and the appreciation there of in the Light Pollution of New York... I'm sure that qualifys you as 'hard core'. The first time you sat outside in the Mountains, {assuming you've had that privlege}, musta left you speachless.
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I went Upstate NY first time, in my teens. I made sure to go back as much as possible after that! I had a place up there, and would go every weekend to fish, and observe.
I'm looking at land here in Florida as far away from artificial lights as possible. I'll finally live in dark night skies. I'll be building an observatory on my land also. |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I went Upstate NY first time, in my teens. I made sure to go back as much as possible after that! I had a place up there, and would go every weekend to fish, and observe.
I'm looking at land here in Florida as far away from artificial lights as possible. I'll finally live in dark night skies. I'll be building an observatory on my land also. |
Oh Excellent man, way to realize your dreams.!
Having spent most my life in the mountains and in the country, I used to be puzzled when city cousins would speak of 'counting stars', I mean why would anyone try and do something so utterly undoable, then I spent some time in Vancouver, and much to my surprise, counting all the visible starts wasn't all that hard. *shrugs* Often enough apparent intelligents is directly proportional to familiarity with ones environment. The reverse was true for those same cousins when they came for the summer and we spent the summer sleep'n outside in the orchard, they'd had no idea the sky look'd like that.
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Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Oh Excellent man, way to realize your dreams.!
Having spent most my life in the mountains and in the country, I used to be puzzled when city cousins would speak of 'counting stars', I mean why would anyone try and do something so utterly undoable, then I spent some time in Vancouver, and much to my surprise, counting all the visible starts wasn't all that hard. *shrugs* Often enough apparent intelligents is directly proportional to familiarity with ones environment. The reverse was true for those same cousins when they came for the summer and we spent the summer sleep'n outside in the orchard, they'd had no idea the sky look'd like that.
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See? In NY City, you can see stars to about 2nd magnitude, that's it. And you have to squint to make out the dippers, Northern Cross, etc. Upstate, you can't hardly find them among the background stars!
First time seeing the night sky in total darkness changed the way I wanted to live.
Cool story, I was Upstate with 2 brothers out in the field, massive night sky. I'm pointing out things to them, and THE WHOLE MEADOW LIT UP! A massive fireball meteor lit up the place brighter than the moon! Almost brighter than the sun! Talk about a rare event! |
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Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I went Upstate NY first time, in my teens. I made sure to go back as much as possible after that! I had a place up there, and would go every weekend to fish, and observe.
I'm looking at land here in Florida as far away from artificial lights as possible. I'll finally live in dark night skies. I'll be building an observatory on my land also. |
Unrelated to your current discussion but still hobby-related, here are the pics I promised of some of my work (camera's not the greatest, but you can still tell the detail) ...
Family tree
Potential wall-hanging for my daughter
First time using dark cloth for a project (tougher than it sounds)
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pics from my earlier post (my band, my geckos, my chinchillas [1 of 2])
BLNT in Japan.
i guess the geckos and chins are the most scientific part of my post, although i just keep them as pets and nothing more.
the band is more than a hobby- it's a second job, practically. |
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Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
See? In NY City, you can see stars to about 2nd magnitude, that's it. And you have to squint to make out the dippers, Northern Cross, etc. Upstate, you can't hardly find them among the background stars!
First time seeing the night sky in total darkness changed the way I wanted to live.
Cool story, I was Upstate with 2 brothers out in the field, massive night sky. I'm pointing out things to them, and THE WHOLE MEADOW LIT UP! A massive fireball meteor lit up the place brighter than the moon! Almost brighter than the sun! Talk about a rare event! |
That's beyond rare man, that's utterly extraordinary. |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
See? In NY City, you can see stars to about 2nd magnitude, that's it. And you have to squint to make out the dippers, Northern Cross, etc. Upstate, you can't hardly find them among the background stars!
First time seeing the night sky in total darkness changed the way I wanted to live.
Cool story, I was Upstate with 2 brothers out in the field, massive night sky. I'm pointing out things to them, and THE WHOLE MEADOW LIT UP! A massive fireball meteor lit up the place brighter than the moon! Almost brighter than the sun! Talk about a rare event! |
The absolute best sky I've ever seen was three years ago in Utah out in the desert on I-70. This was around the time you could see multiple planets in the night sky. This particular night, it was a new moon, so the stars stood out that much more. Where my co-driver and I were, there were no lights of ANY kind around (vehicles, houses, towns -- NOTHING). It too was one of those once-in-a-lifetime moments for me. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Unrelated to your current discussion but still hobby-related, here are the pics I promised of some of my work (camera's not the greatest, but you can still tell the detail) ...
Family tree
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Oh cool! Now, are these materials that you sew INTO, or are these made from scratch? Those are great! And I can se the details. |
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[QUOTE=mcbutton1970][B]Unrelated to your current discussion but still hobby-related, here are the pics I promised of some of my work (camera's not the greatest, but you can still tell the detail) ...
Wow man, that shit takes patience. You weren't kidding when you said you were into this. Does this end up being self-inflicted accupuncture on the ends of your fingers.? |
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Quote: Originally posted by snappy
i guess the geckos and chins are the most scientific part of my post, although i just keep them as pets and nothing more.
the band is more than a hobby- it's a second job, practically. |
That's cool, man. Everything's open to post here. You played japan? That's definitely a job! But it has to be fun to do that! |
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Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
The absolute best sky I've ever seen was three years ago in Utah out in the desert on I-70. This was around the time you could see multiple planets in the night sky. This particular night, it was a new moon, so the stars stood out that much more. Where my co-driver and I were, there were no lights of ANY kind around (vehicles, houses, towns -- NOTHING). It too was one of those once-in-a-lifetime moments for me. |
How cool is that? I'm researching land here to own a home in the same type of darkness that you were in. I'm greedy heheee |
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Quote: Originally posted by snappy
pics from my earlier post (my band, my geckos, my chinchillas [1 of 2])
i guess the geckos and chins are the most scientific part of my post, although i just keep them as pets and nothing more.
the band is more than a hobby- it's a second job, practically. |
Looks like the band can draw a crowd. What genre(s) do you play. Who would you term your guitar mentor/inspiration. |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Oh cool! Now, are these materials that you sew INTO, or are these made from scratch? Those are great! And I can se the details. |
Standard 14-count AIDA cloth. It's all counted. I wish I could take credit for the designs, but I cannot. In all seriousness though, how many people do you ever encounter that would put time into recreating some of those pieces onto a canvas? I should've taken a picture of the back of a couple of those pieces to show just how clean I really do stitch. THAT'S how you can tell the difference between a novice and someone who's done this a few times. |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Wow man, that shit takes patience. You weren't kidding when you said you were into this. Does this end up being self-inflicted accupuncture on the ends of your fingers.? |
Very few needle pricks (most of those are intentional anyway), to be quite honest. Calouses are a needlecrafter's best friend. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Standard 14-count AIDA cloth. It's all counted. I wish I could take credit for the designs, but I cannot. In all seriousness though, how many people do you ever encounter that would put time into recreating some of those pieces onto a canvas? I should've taken a picture of the back of a couple of those pieces to show just how clean I really do stitch. THAT'S how you can tell the difference between a novice and someone who's done this a few times. |
Post whatever you want! I'd like to see that.
Forget credit for the designs. You still have to create the finished product, right? I would imagine you could dream up your own designs also. |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
How cool is that? I'm researching land here to own a home in the same type of darkness that you were in. I'm greedy heheee |
Nothing wrong with that. I almost have that where I'm at now. Even with two houses near me, the tree cover surrounding my place blocks out almost all the ambient light, so there's very little distraction when I look up at the night sky. I missed the eclipse, unfortunately. That sky was gorgeous though with the full moon -- completely cloudless. |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Very few needle pricks (most of those are intentional anyway), to be quite honest. Calouses are a needlecrafter's best friend. |
*puzzled frown*
"(most of those are intentional anyway)"
Er, excuse my ignorance but er... why intentional.?
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Nothing wrong with that. I almost have that where I'm at now. Even with two houses near me, the tree cover surrounding my place blocks out almost all the ambient light, so there's very little distraction when I look up at the night sky. I missed the eclipse, unfortunately. That sky was gorgeous though with the full moon -- completely cloudless. |
Trees help to a point, but to get truly dark skies, you need to be far from ANY artificial lights. The light scatters in the air, and hazes out visibility.
The eclipse was visible at moonrise from the east Coast. You had to be out there when the sun went down. I was clouded out
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| PriceIsRight |
Leonid Meteor Storm Nov. 1966
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
*puzzled frown*
"(most of those are intentional anyway)"
Er, excuse my ignorance but er... why intentional.? |
Every now and then, you have to do things by feel while trying to hold a stitch (particularly the french knots), so you're gonna poke yourself with a needle whether you like it or not (hence it's easier to deal with when you know it's gonna happen). |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Trees help to a point, but to get truly dark skies, you need to be far from ANY artificial lights. The light scatters in the air, and hazes out visibility.
The eclipse was visible at moonrise from the east Coast. You had to be out there when the sun went down. I was clouded out
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Having experienced that, I agree 100%. I can't imagine too many places in Florida where you can have that sort of view (Alligator Alley, maybe?). I'm sure you'll do due dilligence though in your quest. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Having experienced that, I agree 100%. I can't imagine too many places in Florida where you can have that sort of view (Alligator Alley, maybe?). I'm sure you'll do due dilligence though in your quest. |
yes, Alligator Alley is some of the darkest skies in Florida. But there are no homes, just swamp. But if you check State Road 60 West of vero beach, and State Road 70 west of Ft. Pierce, it runs through mostly farmland for miles and miles.
Driving west on SR70 at around 3am on time, I actually SAW M31, the Andromeda Galaxy, naked eye, out my windshield! I've never seen that before. It was huge, and almost scary! Larger than the full moon! But living in cities all my life, it's impossible to see.
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| azkellie |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
Nice.
Did you find all of the stuff in the second picture? Does that turtle shell have a tail? |
Yea, everything was found except for the fossil snail, i dont know where it came from. The turtle died so it's head, feet and tail are still in tact. My friend raises 3 toed box turtles. this one didnt make it, so she gave it to me before the ants got to it. I also have a desert tortoise, which are endangered, that died, its feet are mumified into the shell, so it's a pretty cool piece! |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
yes, Alligator Alley is some of the darkest skies in Florida. But there are no homes, just swamp. But if you check State Road 60 West of vero beach, and State Road 70 west of Ft. Pierce, it runs through mostly farmland for miles and miles.
Driving west on SR70 at around 3am on time, I actually SAW M31, the Andromeda Galaxy, naked eye, out my windshield! I've never seen that before. It was huge, and almost scary! Larger than the full moon! But living in cities all my life, it's impossible to see.
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Are these your own photos man.? Up here a big issue with Astro-photography is one's own body heat causeing distortion, I've been wanting for years to set up a full remote observatory, run from in the house, where it's warm, by computer. That's on the 'somedaywhenI'vesurpluscash' list. You take good shots if there yours. As to Alligator Alley, ya could always become a 'swampboat people', 'course the scope would need a very smooth gimble set-up, and someway to stick out through the bug netting. *G*. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Are these your own photos man.? Up here a big issue with Astro-photography is one's own body heat causeing distortion, I've been wanting for years to set up a full remote observatory, run from in the house, where it's warm, by computer. That's on the 'somedaywhenI'vesurpluscash' list. You take good shots if there yours. As to Alligator Alley, ya could always become a 'swampboat people', 'course the scope would need a very smooth gimble set-up, and someway to stick out through the bug netting. *G*. |
hahaa no, I got that pic off the 'net. I wanted to show what M31 was.
You can do the remote observatory thing. You can build a roll-off roof type "shed" and run lines from your digital setup on the scope, to the house. The shed will cost only for the parts. it's the cheapest way to go, I plan on doing it! Mine will be big enough to house all of my equipment and literature.
Also, you can buy a dome, and install it on your house! Your attic can be the observatory! |
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| kali |
I went to a friends house last night and we kept going outside every few minutes to try and catch the moon.
fortunately, the sky was clear and around 6.30ish we saw the end of the eclipse - the white sliver of light was on the left side of the moon. the rest of the moon was a maroon color. it wasn't as red as I've seen it before but I'm hoping the august red moon will be great too!
I love it when the moon gets like that. wow! and it's all big and bright tonite - I can see it from my bedroom window right now!
anyway, I was just inspired by PIR's love of moons and nipples and I spent a few moments just now making some cafepress images.
what-ya-think?
I'm rolling with laughter myself! :funny: |
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| kali |
| btw, eariler today I posted a pic that a friend took of the red moon. |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
hahaa no, I got that pic off the 'net. I wanted to show what M31 was.
You can do the remote observatory thing. You can build a roll-off roof type "shed" and run lines from your digital setup on the scope, to the house. The shed will cost only for the parts. it's the cheapest way to go, I plan on doing it! Mine will be big enough to house all of my equipment and literature.
Also, you can buy a dome, and install it on your house! Your attic can be the observatory! |
Oh yeah, it is do-able, and yes a shed is cheaper than a dome 'cause I can build that. Attaching it to the house has a big downside here, winter skys are awesome, and it's full dark by 1600hrs, the downside is that it's -20 - -30 C., {hence the remote system}, your house no matter how well insulated loses so much heat that viewing distortion is huge, so 'tis preferable to be well away from the house. I'd only house the scope in the shed, and CCD cameras generally benefit from the cold. The connection could be done radio remote, but I think I like hardwire better.
Now, in Florida, a remote observatory would be pure luxury rather than 'almost necessity. |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by kali
btw, eariler today I posted a pic that a friend took of the red moon. |
I seen that man, and it was a very clean shot. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by kali
btw, eariler today I posted a pic that a friend took of the red moon. |
Cool pic, Kali! I was clouded out, and it cleared when the eclipse was over
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by SpyVsSpy
Oh yeah, it is do-able, and yes a shed is cheaper than a dome 'cause I can build that. Attaching it to the house has a big downside here, winter skys are awesome, and it's full dark by 1600hrs, the downside is that it's -20 - -30 C., {hence the remote system}, your house no matter how well insulated loses so much heat that viewing distortion is huge, so 'tis preferable to be well away from the house. I'd only house the scope in the shed, and CCD cameras generally benefit from the cold. The connection could be done radio remote, but I think I like hardwire better.
Now, in Florida, a remote observatory would be pure luxury rather than 'almost necessity. |
I wouldn't do remote, I like being at the eyepiece.
Yes, cold does hamper the scope, especially if it has a mirror. In NY, I had to leave my scope outside for at least 1/2 hour, to let it 'cool down' to the outside temp. otherwise, Jupiter looked like it was on fire heheheee |
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| SpyVsSpy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I wouldn't do remote, I like being at the eyepiece.
Yes, cold does hamper the scope, especially if it has a mirror. In NY, I had to leave my scope outside for at least 1/2 hour, to let it 'cool down' to the outside temp. otherwise, Jupiter looked like it was on fire heheheee |
Keeping the Scope at ambiant temperature solves problems with the optics, but solving the problem of distortion from the heat rising from ones body or any heated buildings is a tougher issue, particularily when one really wants to be at the eye piece, but in this modern home scientist wonder-age we live in, 'tis all solve-able...
I need to get after finish'n dinner...Peace...seeya later ... SvS |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
yes, Alligator Alley is some of the darkest skies in Florida. But there are no homes, just swamp. But if you check State Road 60 West of vero beach, and State Road 70 west of Ft. Pierce, it runs through mostly farmland for miles and miles.
Driving west on SR70 at around 3am on time, I actually SAW M31, the Andromeda Galaxy, naked eye, out my windshield! I've never seen that before. It was huge, and almost scary! Larger than the full moon! But living in cities all my life, it's impossible to see.
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You're talking around near Yeehaw Junction, right? |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
You're talking around near Yeehaw Junction, right? |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
:bigup: |
The lone stop along the turnpike between Orlando and Fort Pierce ... otherwise nearly 100 miles between exits. It's been a couple years since I've been down that way. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
The lone stop along the turnpike between Orlando and Fort Pierce ... otherwise nearly 100 miles between exits. It's been a couple years since I've been down that way. |
Bingo! I'm not sure if I'd go VERY deep into the center of the state, most of that land is owned by farmers. But I'd try to get as far from the coast as possible, that's where most of the population lives.
Damn, I csn't sleep hehee |
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| kali |
discover all things PIR with the PIR search engine! :jj: |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by kali
discover all things PIR with the PIR search engine! :jj: |
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You're shot! |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Bingo! I'm not sure if I'd go VERY deep into the center of the state, most of that land is owned by farmers. But I'd try to get as far from the coast as possible, that's where most of the population lives. |
Like I said, that's gonna be tough because there are fewer and fewer places with wide-open sky and no artificial lights. You can't really go very far north since it's all so heavily populated. Panhandle's no good. You might get lucky near Sebring, but that's a long-shot at best. As I said before, good luck on your quest. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Like I said, that's gonna be tough because there are fewer and fewer places with wide-open sky and no artificial lights. You can't really go very far north since it's all so heavily populated. Panhandle's no good. You might get lucky near Sebring, but that's a long-shot at best. As I said before, good luck on your quest. |
Funny you mention Sebring, I'm actually looking at places in that area! You can rent/buy in that area very cheap. And not far to the east of that, are those dark skies! |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Funny you mention Sebring, I'm actually looking at places in that area! You can rent/buy in that area very cheap. And not far to the east of that, are those dark skies! |
That area is quite beautiful, especially near the lake. I've picked up freight not far from the racetrack, so I've seen some of that area before. Too bad the city limits are so lit or that would be one heck of a view on the lake itself. Kinda scary that I know some of these places and have never lived in Florida (and have only been in Florida maybe a dozen times at most). |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
That area is quite beautiful, especially near the lake. I've picked up freight not far from the racetrack, so I've seen some of that area before. Too bad the city limits are so lit or that would be one heck of a view on the lake itself. Kinda scary that I know some of these places and have never lived in Florida (and have only been in Florida maybe a dozen times at most). |
I really like it here. I'm focusing on Avon park, there is a military range there, and it's pitch black. Also, it's still close enough to watch Canaveral launches! |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I really like it here. I'm focusing on Avon park, there is a military range there, and it's pitch black. Also, it's still close enough to watch Canaveral launches! |
Yeah, the pics you've posted of various launches have been rather awesome just from where you are right now. I can just imagine how much better they'll be from there with everything that wide open. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Yeah, the pics you've posted of various launches have been rather awesome just from where you are right now. I can just imagine how much better they'll be from there with everything that wide open. |
There's a rocket launch this Friday night. I'll get some pics to post. |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
There's a rocket launch this Friday night. I'll get some pics to post. |
I'll be watching for them with eager anticipation. |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by TheEdge
Well after waiting for the eclipse last night I finally managed to get a picture . |
hahahaaa..How did i know that was coming? |
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| PriceIsRight |
| AURORA WATCH: A gusty solar wind stream is blowing against Earth's magnetosphere, and this could cause high-latitude geomagnetic storms tonight. Sky watchers from Scandinavia to Alaska should be alert for auroras. |
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| onewhip |
woah.
kali, i'm laughing so hard at your t-shirts. :rofl: |
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by onewhip
woah.
kali, i'm laughing so hard at your t-shirts. :rofl: |
Aren't those shirts just the absolute breast?! :D |
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| kali |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Cool pic, Kali! I was clouded out, and it cleared when the eclipse was over
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There are some OUTSTANDING pictures on that link! composites of the eclipse and everything! wow! I wish I had a really good camera! |
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| kali |
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Aren't those shirts just the absolute breast?! :D |
I'm glad people are finding them funny! I was just inspired, what can I say!
I'm adding more:
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| mcbutton1970 |
Quote: Originally posted by kali
I'm glad people are finding them funny! I was just inspired, what can I say! |
You got PIR cut in on the deal?! :D |
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