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Scales
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Here are Sandhill Cranes that I feed near my house. They are protected in Florida. if they cross the street, you have to stop until they cross hehee...They stand about 4 feet off the ground!





That is cool.

We have a hunting season for them up here, but not many people shoot them because their meat is really tough.

In the Fall i tis not uncommon to see flocks of 300-1000 lifting off of feilds. That many birds with their unique call is almost defening.

But Whooping cranes are protected. In highschool, me and a good friend used to go goose hunting before school, off of the river hills.

One day, when we grouped back up after the hunt, I told him excitedly that I had shot an albino sandhill crane.!!!!

"Are you a fucking idiot! We gotta bury that thing, and fast"

Then I told him I was joking. He still talks about how he wanted to kick my ass for that one.
Scales
I live on the intersection of the 2 main Canadian Flyways. We have more species of birds accounted for each year, than any other place in North America including Costa Rica.

I do have a recipe for sandhill crane if anyone wants one.

Clean the bird as you would any other type of bird like a goose. Find a large 4 lb stone, and set in in the body cavity. Add spices to your liking, put in a large roaster, add onions oil and wine, and cook at 225 for 9 hours.

Remove the large rock from the bird, throw bird away, and eat the rock.
rigmover2307
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
I live on the intersection of the 2 main Canadian Flyways. We have more species of birds accounted for each year, than any other place in North America including Costa Rica.

I do have a recipe for sandhill crane if anyone wants one.

Clean the bird as you would any other type of bird like a goose. Find a large 4 lb stone, and set in in the body cavity. Add spices to your liking, put in a large roaster, add onions oil and wine, and cook at 225 for 9 hours.

Remove the large rock from the bird, throw bird away, and eat the rock.


heard of a similar recipie for carp, place the carp fillet on a pine board soaked in water, cook on the grill, throw away the carp and eat the board.
Scales
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Random pond shots.


How many and what kind of turtles do you keep?

Right now, I only have a sulcatta tortoise and a big common snapper. I used to keep more than 20 at one time.

Here are a few pictures of my shelly friends









40 lb common snapper
Scales
I also like to fish


A nice haul of 'pickeral' - 2 Walleye, 3 Sauger, and 2 more walleye




Me, at 12 years old (18 years ago) with a 40 lb Sturgeon that gave me an hour fight to real in.






Scales
Was thinking about these pictures







I've seen smaller versions of these pictures posted before, but I got sent the larger ones after talking to a guy from Nigeria.

I was told that the pictures represent some money collectors over there, and instead of the pitbulls that ganbangers over here use for intimidation.... they use Hyena's and Baboons.

I was also told that they have Baboon vs. Hyena fights in a 'pit' over there. Fights are till the death.

I was also told that the people who don't pay up in a timely fashion, have to fight their choice of a baboon or hyenea - to the death.

People bet on the various fights, it is like a Roman blood sport kind of deal.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
the first year everyone said to leave it alone all winter and the fish would be ok. i didnt believe them and brought them inside. good thing cause it froze 18 inches thick. the next winter i left them out, and chopped ice with an axe everyday. i lost two 14 inch koi and a 12 inch butterfly goldfish thart winter. there were 84 fishin the fall and 24 in the spring. !


The thing is, Real pond animals survive, because real ponds are usually big enough where winter doesn't affect the temperature of the water as quickly as a man-made pond, since they are usually smaller. There are floating heaters you can buy, if you decide to keep the fish out there all winter.
MeSelf's pond sounds similar, so either he can get the floating heater, or do what you did. I always take my turtles inside when the temperature goes below 40* at night. The fish in my pond live, because I have a separate heater in the pond. it doesn't hurt!


Meself- one more thing- fish in a pond is always good, because it keeps the water "alive." The ecosystem moves along. SO, I think you'll be ok with the waterfall, filter, and fish. Occasionally, a tiny bit of vaccuuming on the bottom helps, but don't take too much water out at once, because the water you replenish it with most likely be treated water, and the fish will die from it. A small amount of replacement water is fine, and will kill some small parasites in the water.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Scales

We have a hunting season for them up here, but not many people shoot them because their meat is really tough.

In the Fall i tis not uncommon to see flocks of 300-1000 lifting off of feilds. That many birds with their unique call is almost defening.



Funny how they are hunted in one place, and protected in another hehee.
And their unique call is amazing..I could never imitate that!
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
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I do have a recipe for sandhill crane if anyone wants one.
Clean the bird as you would any other type of bird like a goose. Find a large 4 lb stone, and set in in the body cavity. Add spices to your liking, put in a large roaster, add onions oil and wine, and cook at 225 for 9 hours.
Remove the large rock from the bird, throw bird away, and eat the rock.


:lol:
You had me on that one!
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
How many and what kind of turtles do you keep?

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Cool pics!
I have 3 turtles, 2 Red Eared Sliders, and 1 Peninsula Cooter. The Cooter is the most abundant turtle in Florida.
I had more turtles, but they were stung by bees, and died. It was before I had a safe screened in room to keep out the insects. They were tiny, and the bees stings were too much for them.
Now, they are getting big, and when I build the big pond at the house i buy, they will get huge.

And I'm all fishing too! Fresh and salt water. I've been fishing since I was real young in New York. Ah, the stories..hehee
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Scales

I was told that the pictures represent some money collectors over there, and instead of the pitbulls that ganbangers over here use for intimidation.... they use Hyena's and Baboons.
I was also told that they have Baboon vs. Hyena fights in a 'pit' over there. Fights are till the death.
I was also told that the people who don't pay up in a timely fashion, have to fight their choice of a baboon or hyenea - to the death.


People are insane.
MeSelf
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Meself- one more thing- fish in a pond is always good, because it keeps the water "alive." The ecosystem moves along. SO, I think you'll be ok with the waterfall, filter, and fish. Occasionally, a tiny bit of vaccuuming on the bottom helps, but don't take too much water out at once, because the water you replenish it with most likely be treated water, and the fish will die from it. A small amount of replacement water is fine, and will kill some small parasites in the water.


That was the conditioning I spoke of earlier. I treated the water to dechlorinate it and let the pump cycle overnight before putting the fish back in there. I also have to monitor the clarity of the water to determine if I need to jump start the bacterial growth. Most people don't realize that bacteria are needed to digest the fish waste and other minute debris that fall in the pond. Normally, when you line the bottom of a pond with river pebbles, you create surface area and habitat for the bacteria. However, with "new" water, I might have to add some bacteria to take care of stuff until it the pond is capable of supporting itself.

As far as the heater goes...When the pond was 3/4 muck, 1/4 water, a thin layer of ice would form on the top if it got really cold here. The fish seemed to live in this fine. The length of time we risk freezing here shortens each year...I am going to look a skimmers/filters and water fall features this morning...Keep you posted...
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf

As far as the heater goes...When the pond was 3/4 muck, 1/4 water, a thin layer of ice would form on the top if it got really cold here. The fish seemed to live in this fine. The length of time we risk freezing here shortens each year...I am going to look a skimmers/filters and water fall features this morning...Keep you posted...


Post some pics! I can use different creative ideas for my turtle ponds! Yes, PONDS...I'm going to have a double pond for my guys!
kali
false color image of Saturn:



WOW!!! the larger verion shows two moons
PriceIsRight
Cassini "Eclipse" photo! I should say the 'arrow' is Earth!

rigmover2307
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/...07/100_0784.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/...07/100_0783.jpg

here are two pics of my pond, slightly shaded and i had just put some bentonite in the water to help slow seepage. it is 12' x 14' and 4 ft deep at the center

thanks for the tip pir, my orion catalog came in the mail today. theres definatly some neat shit in there
rigmover2307
i put a stock tank heater in it last year, didnt help as it was on the bottom and kept the lower half from freezing but not the top. used it in the shed this year.
Scales
Found some pictures of the rattlesnakes in the area that I used to spend a lot of time around. Hope I can buy a camera before they come out again in the beginning of April

First ever picture I took with my old camera which is now broken




A closer shot





A patternless one I found that I saw for 3 years in a row.




Couple of mom's with their babies in the fall.

PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/...07/100_0784.jpg
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/...07/100_0783.jpg
here are two pics of my pond, slightly shaded and i had just put some bentonite in the water to help slow seepage. it is 12' x 14' and 4 ft deep at the center
hanks for the tip pir, my orion catalog came in the mail today. theres definatly some neat shit in there


Anytime, man. Orion has great accessories, and their prices are really good also. Like i said, in the past, they didn't have good quality scopes, but they have improved 1000% in the past 5-7 years!
Let me know what you order, if anything!
Your pond is great! Those dimensions are perfect for any pets you put in there. Plenty of room, nice depth. As for the winter, you're right..always better off taking the pets inside, because it's a small pond, and temperatures drop faster than a large pond.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
Found some pictures of the rattlesnakes in the area that I used to spend a lot of time around. Hope I can buy a camera before they come out again in the beginning of April

First ever picture I took with my old camera which is now broken
A closer shot
A patternless one I found that I saw for 3 years in a row.
Couple of mom's with their babies in the fall.
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Damn, those are mean! I hope those "close" shots were with a telescopic lens! Rattlers are fast, and they will nail you before you have time to react.
My brother had a ton of non-venomous snakes, he'd buy and sell. But he had to get rid of them all. So, for his Bday this year, I bought him a mounted rattlesnake, coiled and fangs out! it's really cool, I should have him email me a pic of it.
You can find them on ebay, if interested.
MeSelf
Holy shit, Scales! You either got really big balls, are part rattlesnake yourself or had a really good lens...:D We have three poisonous snakes indigenous to SC, the timber rattler, copperhead and water moccasin (cottonmouths). I have seen copperheads up here, never seen a rattler and the cottonmouths generally keep to the lower part of the state toward the marshes...I have some pictures of those that I took during a canoe trip...I'll see if I can dig them up and post them... ;)
MeSelf
I haven't used image hosting much, so hopefully these photos will come through...Here are a couple different angles of the pond I am working on. I hope by the end of the weekend to have filtration and a water fall installed...The weather is turning cooler, so we'll see... :)





PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
I haven't used image hosting much, so hopefully these photos will come through...Here are a couple different angles of the pond I am working on. I hope by the end of the weekend to have filtration and a water fall installed...The weather is turning cooler, so we'll see... :) Sorry...couldn't get the hotlinked thumbnails to work...

http://img172.imagevenue.com/view.p...x_122_526lo.jpg

http://img11.imagevenue.com/img.php...x_122_528lo.jpg

http://img167.imagevenue.com/img.ph...x_122_381lo.jpg


That's a great setup. Do you know the dimensions of the whole thing? I have a different setup in mind for my ponds, but I like the ideas I'm getting from your pics!
MeSelf
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
That's a great setup. Do you know the dimensions of the whole thing? I have a different setup in mind for my ponds, but I like the ideas I'm getting from your pics!


It's about 6 to 7 feet wide at the widest point and probably 14 to 15 feet long. The deepest point is 2-2.5 feet deep and gently slopes toward the point of the teardrop. I did some rough calculations and estimate the volume is between 1,000 and 1,200 gallons. I plan to building the falls into the point of the teardrop and the filtration opposite of that so that the water circulates through the entire pond...I'll post some more pics once that stuff is installed. ;)
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
It's about 6 to 7 feet wide at the widest point and probably 14 to 15 feet long. The deepest point is 2-2.5 feet deep and gently slopes toward the point of the teardrop. I did some rough calculations and estimate the volume is between 1,000 and 1,200 gallons. I plan to building the falls into the point of the teardrop and the filtration opposite of that so that the water circulates through the entire pond...I'll post some more pics once that stuff is installed. ;)


That's perfect for turtles. make sure you get turtles, and not tortises. Turtles stay in the water, tortises don't.
They will have planty of room to swim, get sun, sleep on the bottom, etc. Definitely post more pics when you get them!
MeSelf
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
That's perfect for turtles. make sure you get turtles, and not tortises. Turtles stay in the water, tortises don't.
They will have planty of room to swim, get sun, sleep on the bottom, etc. Definitely post more pics when you get them!


A few questions...What type of turtles (that I can get) would be best for this habitat? Will I have a problem with them eating the fish? Should I get a pair, male and female? How do I tell? Thanks, dude. ;)
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
A few questions...What type of turtles (that I can get) would be best for this habitat? Will I have a problem with them eating the fish? Should I get a pair, male and female? How do I tell? Thanks, dude. ;)


Different species have different ways to tell male/female. I don't know any of the ways hahahaaa..
Well, I can give you this much advice. If you want to buy turtles, then you can get any size/age, since they will already be domesticated. if you find wild turtles, I'd suggest you find the youngest possible. Tiny ones are best, since it would be a shock to an older one to be taken out of his element, and put into a whole new setup. I'm not saying they would die, but it is possible.
As for best type, I would suggest doing research on turtles of your state, so they will be used to the general 'feel' of the area. But i don't see why ANY species wouldn't survive, as long as they are fed, get lotsa UV light, and can just be themselves.
Your fish may be in danger of being attacked, always. Now, it will depend on turtle size, and species. (Snapping turtles will eat everything, others may be less aggressive) Now, if you give a steady dose of feeder fish to your turtles, or sore-bought canned food, then your fish will be ok. I put 10 feeder goldfish in my pond. 5 were eaten, and 5 now live there. I feed the turtles canned food also, so they eat that, and they became friends with the goldfish. I'm sure if i stopped the canned food, the turtles will eat the goldfish, but that's why I put them in!
You can find turtle care tips on the 'net, and also from your local pet store. he might even give you tips on what type to get. main things- feed them well, keep the pond clean, and make sure they get plenty of UV light!
Scales
Quote: Originally posted by PIR
Damn, those are mean! I hope those "close" shots were with a telescopic lens! Rattlers are fast, and they will nail you before you have time to react.
My brother had a ton of non-venomous snakes, he'd buy and sell. But he had to get rid of them all. So, for his Bday this year, I bought him a mounted rattlesnake, coiled and fangs out! it's really cool, I should have him email me a pic of it.
You can find them on ebay, if interested.


I've seen taxidermied rattlers before, there is a guy around here who freeze dry's ones he orders from texas. Buying them only goes to support the Rattlesnake roundups in the U.S - so I don't have any plans on buying one any time soon.


Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
Holy shit, Scales! You either got really big balls, are part rattlesnake yourself or had a really good lens...:D


A combination of all 3 of those things actually. You also never mentioined my massive penis. :cool:

I don't use much zoom for most of those shots, but have been around our wild rattlers enough to know when I am pushing their limits. I hope my next camera has good zoom, I'd like to get more close shots without having to get so close.

One morning I got out to the dens before the rattlesnakes emerged, and just sat there and watched them go about their business. I wasn't paying enough attention, and had one crawl up onto my lap, and sit there for about 20 minutes (warming up from my body heat I'd imagine) I sure had a mix of emotions over that, sat very very still, and was glad when he crawled off and went on his merry way.
Scales
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Different species have different ways to tell male/female. I don't know any of the ways hahahaaa..


On some species, length of tail can be a good indication. They can also be probed, like snakes are. Distance of their cloaca from the tip of the tail can also help.

The only way I've ever used to determine sex, is the shape of their plastron (bottom shell) Males are concaved to help fit on a female for breeding. This only works for adults though.

Oh, and with Sliders and other aquatic turtles, the adult males have much longer claws (to help hold on to the female when breeding)
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
Oh, and with Sliders and other aquatic turtles, the adult males have much longer claws (to help hold on to the female when breeding)


I have 2 Sliders, I have to check that out, thanks.
MeSelf
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I did a little research online and it looks like either the painted turtle or the red eared slider is best for my setup. Neither tend to seek land as much as just some place to sun. I am a little worried about feeding the young...Sounds like as juveniles, they tend to be carnivores and can live more off vegetation as they age. I don't have any clue as to how I segregate the fish food from the turtle food. Do you know how long it takes them to reach reproductive maturity? If I get a male/female pair, I need to figure out a way for the female to be able to nest as the bottom of my pond is terra firma...

I also identified the frogs in the pond and it turns out I have an adult Eastern Red-Spotted newt.



PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
[biiizzzump]

I did a little research online and it looks like either the painted turtle or the red eared slider is best for my setup. Neither tend to seek land as much as just some place to sun. I am a little worried about feeding the young...Sounds like as juveniles, they tend to be carnivores and can live more off vegetation as they age. I don't have any clue as to how I segregate the fish food from the turtle food. Do you know how long it takes them to reach reproductive maturity? If I get a male/female pair, I need to figure out a way for the female to be able to nest as the bottom of my pond is terra firma...

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Yes, when those turtles are young, they need more protein, and as they age, they need less protein. That's what I've always read, I'm not sure why. That's why I feed them the low protein turtle food stix.
I don't know the sexual maturity age, but I've had mine since they were tiny. Now, 1 1/2 years later, they seem to be doing a "mating" dance to one another. If that's what they['re doing.
The fish/turtle food is easy. They both will eat each other's food, and be fine. The fish in my pond live off the turtle food, and they are huge now. I used to feed fish in my turtle tanks in the past, and my turtles would eat the fish food. You can throw both foods in, and each pet will pick their foods out.
Hope that helps!
rigmover2307
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Anytime, man. Orion has great accessories, and their prices are really good also. Like i said, in the past, they didn't have good quality scopes, but they have improved 1000% in the past 5-7 years!
Let me know what you order, if anything!
Your pond is great! Those dimensions are perfect for any pets you put in there. Plenty of room, nice depth. As for the winter, you're right..always better off taking the pets inside, because it's a small pond, and temperatures drop faster than a large pond.






it'll be a couple months before i get somthing but im thinking about a skyquest xt8 intelliscope. it looks pretty neat, but its gonna cut into my corvette fund. maybee the xt6 we'll see
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
it'll be a couple months before i get somthing but im thinking about a skyquest xt8 intelliscope. it looks pretty neat, but its gonna cut into my corvette fund. maybee the xt6 we'll see


Either one is a great scope to start off with. They're not what you'd call a 'starter' scope, so you'll be 100x more impressed with the views. Take your time with it, you'll get better as time goes on, and you learn the sky.
The best target is the Moon. Simple to find, and still blows me away when I look at it. If you invest $15 in a Moon filter, it'll be that much better. 1st Quarter/Last Quarter moons are best to look at, because Full Moon is too bright, and blinds you without a filter.
Major planets are next easiest target. Jupiter, Saturn...I won't even describe it, go see for yourself! And again, certain filters will show even more detail.
And the 'Vette isn't going anywhere!
PriceIsRight
NEW COMET LOVEJOY: On March 15th, Terry Lovejoy of Thornlands, Australia, discovered a new comet (C/2007 E2) in the southern constellation Indus. Remarkably, to make the find he used not a telescope but just a camera--a Canon 350D. At Lovejoy's request, John Drummund of Gisborne, New Zealand, confirmed the comet with this photo taken through a 0.41-m reflec



The new comet is green, 9th-magnitude, and located approximately at right ascension 20h 42m 55s, declination -50o 43' 14" (ref: International Astronomical Union Circular 8819). A detailed ephemeris is not yet available, so it is impossible to say how bright Comet Lovejoy will become--or even which way it will go. Stay tuned for updates.
PriceIsRight
For all of you musicians, and music fans, www.musiciansfriend.com has a weekly newsletter that shows "this week in music history." You can sign up for weekly email alerts. And they sell equipment, too.
http://www.musiciansfriend.com/docu...L7CFA&c_lid=e1&
PriceIsRight
HAIL-DAMAGED SHUTTLE FUEL TANK ASSESSMENT CONTINUES
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Senior NASA managers, including agency Administrator Mike Griffin, plan to
meet late next week to assess the shuttle Atlantis's hail-damaged external
tank, what will be needed to repair it and when the shuttle, originally
scheduled for launch March 15, might be able to take off on a space
station assembly mission.

http://spaceflightnow.com/shuttle/s...0315tankassess/
rigmover2307
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Either one is a great scope to start off with. They're not what you'd call a 'starter' scope, so you'll be 100x more impressed with the views. Take your time with it, you'll get better as time goes on, and you learn the sky.
The best target is the Moon. Simple to find, and still blows me away when I look at it. If you invest $15 in a Moon filter, it'll be that much better. 1st Quarter/Last Quarter moons are best to look at, because Full Moon is too bright, and blinds you without a filter.
Major planets are next easiest target. Jupiter, Saturn...I won't even describe it, go see for yourself! And again, certain filters will show even more detail.
And the 'Vette isn't going anywhere!



i got some pretty good looks with my old telescope at the moon, thats all i could really get a clear shot of. i had a moon filter and sun filter with it, barlow lens amd somthing called an image erector which i couldnt figure the purpose of. but, it was given to me by an old family friend, probably a circa 1970 scope, the pieces fit so loose, it was near impossible to find anything. i could pick out the planets with the good ole eyball, but for the life of me i wouldnt be able to find em in the damn scope. im hoping that the orions have slightly higher manufacturing tolerances than the antique tasco!
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
i got some pretty good looks with my old telescope at the moon, thats all i could really get a clear shot of. i had a moon filter and sun filter with it, barlow lens amd somthing called an image erector which i couldnt figure the purpose of. but, it was given to me by an old family friend, probably a circa 1970 scope, the pieces fit so loose, it was near impossible to find anything. i could pick out the planets with the good ole eyball, but for the life of me i wouldnt be able to find em in the damn scope. im hoping that the orions have slightly higher manufacturing tolerances than the antique tasco!


You'll be very happy with the orion scopes. They received big reviews from Sky and Telescope, and Astronomy Magazines. I'll try to find the archive links on their sites.
One word of caution: DO NOT LISTEN TO THE "SUN FILTER" CRAP! YOU WILL GO INSTANTLY BLIND! I will link you to some REAL solar filters. You can look safely at the sun with the ones i send. I don't know why some companies do that...
I guess you already know, Barlow lenses are ONLY for planetary use, and eyepiece magnification varies with the size of the lens. A 2x Barlow is fine. And I believe the scopes come with 3 different magnification eyepieces.

http://www.astromart.com/articles/a...?article_id=151

http://www.amazon.com/Orion-SkyQues...e/dp/B00018WIDI

http://www.cloudynights.com/item.ph...d=431&pr=2x6x25

http://www.consumerreview.com/sf-1/...px?dnatrs=orion

These are some reviews for the X8, and all other Orion scopes by regular people. I suggest ordering the scope from Orion themselves, when you do.

http://skytonight.com/equipment/vendors/3304076.html

here is a list of solar filter dealers. Tuthill had the best one, and he died, the shop closed. Thousand Oaks Optical is the place that sells Polymer paper, and it's really cheap and safe.
http://members.aol.com/jimm983998/solarfilter.htm You can see how it works with the scope here.

If you're willing to spend a bit more, I'll give you links to Glass Filters. They rock, I used to have one.
Gator_Russ
DUDE! THIS CAT HAS AN ATTACK MONKEY!




Oh man... I want an attack monkey. Seriously. ^_^



Hey PIR. Could I get a good, starter telescope for under 100 bucks? Or do I need to spend a little scratch. I love astronomy and always have but I dunno what kinda scope I should get. Any recomendations or websites that could point me in the right direction?
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Gator_Russ

Hey PIR. Could I get a good, starter telescope for under 100 bucks? Or do I need to spend a little scratch. I love astronomy and always have but I dunno what kinda scope I should get. Any recomendations or websites that could point me in the right direction?


If you want to spend UNDER $100, I would suggest binoculars. DOn't laugh, you can see a lot with them! Phil Harrington (http://www.philharrington.net/) gives you tons of information on astronomy with binocs. The right size, power, and types. I have about 8 pairs, along with my scopes. He's a really cool guy, I met him, and he does lectures on binocular astronomy.

If you want to spend more towards $200+, I'd go with Orion's 4.5" Dobsonian Reflector. http://www.telescope.com/jump.jsp?i...mType=HOME_PAGE is the homepage. It gives all info on scopes, and will tell you which ones are 'starter' scopes, and more advanced.

**NEVER LOOK AT THE SUN WITH ANY OPTICALS!** If you want to view the sun, write me, or look at the links above my last post. NEVER TRUST ANYTHING UNLESS IT'S THE REAL THING. INSTANT BLINDNESS!!

If you need more help, let me know!
Heatherwiz
Quote: Originally posted by Gator_Russ
DUDE! THIS CAT HAS AN ATTACK MONKEY!




Oh man... I want an attack monkey. Seriously. ^_^



Hey PIR. Could I get a good, starter telescope for under 100 bucks? Or do I need to spend a little scratch. I love astronomy and always have but I dunno what kinda scope I should get. Any recomendations or websites that could point me in the right direction?


wow that jackel looks like if that muzzle was off it would eat every last person there.. that gives me chills..
ArtieFan713
Where is all the science? This is just crap. 10 year old monkey story. Bunch of turd biters.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by ArtieFan713
Where is all the science? This is just crap. 10 year old monkey story. Bunch of turd biters.


Start 30 pages back.

What's your opinion on manufacturing Ununpentium to become a stable isotope?
MeSelf
biiizzzump
PriceIsRight
Bump for Rigmover, and Russ. I hope you guys got the info I left!
prsshrd5copies
Don't bust me up!
or
I'm Jonny Cash!
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by prsshrd5copies
Don't bust me up!
or
I'm Jonny Cash!


Hmm?

Hey guys, 3/21 is the Vernal Equinox! First day of Spring in the Northern Hemisphere, and First day of winter in the Southern. Hopefully, you guys up north can thaw out soon!
MooseNuts
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I'll throw a science question out there, since we'd all be involved in this:

The last 10 years or so, Astronomers have recorded Near-Earth Asteroids passing WAAAY too close to Earth. If one should be in our path of impact, what do you think is the best way to avoid that happening?

I can't say "blow it up" because now you have 150 asteroids hitting us. I think the best thing is, design a probe we can launch, attach itself to the asteroid, and gently 'push' it out of it's current path with jets. It may cost a lot, but it would be well worth it!

Ideas?


I take it you saw that program on discovery channel (or history channel i cant remember) about the top 10 things that can wipe us out? that was pretty much thier exact solution
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MooseNuts
I take it you saw that program on discovery channel (or history channel i cant remember) about the top 10 things that can wipe us out? that was pretty much thier exact solution


Funny thing is, I saw that show the other day, and i posted that a few weeks ago hehee..I've been an astronomer since i was young, so it's something that's always been thrown around in talks. My magazines always asked that question, and polled opinions on the best solutions.
PriceIsRight
Strange happenings on the sun!

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y....htm?list733722
PriceIsRight
Random links:

Rocket misses orbit!
FALCON FLIES TO SPACE BUT MISSES ORBIT
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The Falcon 1 rocket, a gleaming symbol of hopes to revolutionize space
exploration through private industry, took its second shot at orbit
Tuesday night but fell back to Earth after experiencing a problem mid-way
through the ascent.

FULL STORY:
http://spaceflightnow.com/falcon/f2/

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Hubble records storms on Saturn
http://www.space.com/scienceastrono...urn_movies.html

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New stars found in our Galaxy.
http://www.space.com/scienceastrono...ar_cluster.html
rigmover2307
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight




If you're willing to spend a bit more, I'll give you links to Glass Filters. They rock, I used to have one.


the solar filter i had was a glass one it was just another eyepiece that went in the same place as the barlow lens. it worked pretty good and made the sun look an odd shade of green. do they all do that? if you have a link or two for the glass ones, i would appreciate it. once when i was 10 i took pictures of a solar eclipse by stacking the lenses of four pairs of sunglasses. worked like a champ, but boy that was stupid!
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
the solar filter i had was a glass one it was just another eyepiece that went in the same place as the barlow lens. it worked pretty good and made the sun look an odd shade of green. do they all do that? if you have a link or two for the glass ones, i would appreciate it. once when i was 10 i took pictures of a solar eclipse by stacking the lenses of four pairs of sunglasses. worked like a champ, but boy that was stupid!


Ouch, the sunglass thing was NOT smart! I'm surprised your eyes weren't damaged! And the filter that went into the eyepiece wasn't good either! The best filters go in the FRONT of the scope (cover the top) that way, the incoming light is immediately blocked down.
Some scopes include a "solar filter" with the scope. They are NOT filters! I can't believe companies do that.
If you go to:
http://www.thousandoaksoptical.com/solar.html

http://www.celestron.com/c2/category.php?CatID=45

http://www.coronadofilters.com/
You'll see some offered by some companies.

This link will show you different dealers. Click on their websites, and look through their inventories. Like I said, Tuthill had the best, but they no longer exist, Roger Tuthill died.

http://skytonight.com/equipment/vendors/3304076.html
PriceIsRight
Shuttle delayed into April

http://www.space.com/missionlaunche...17_tnkupdt.html

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Jurassic Crocodile Unearthed in Oregon!

http://news.aol.com/topnews/article...S00010000000001
Mytee Mouse
I know this is off topic of space but I took a shity pic of a pic of me and my storgon in the columbia river 49" long
PriceIsRight
Nice fish!
Afraid of photochoppers getting your face?
:D
Mytee Mouse
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Nice fish!
Afraid of photochoppers getting your face?
:D
I was born at night but not last night!!!

And I have thousands of pics of me in alaska comercial fishin just not digital pics!
MeSelf
I posted this in the daily thread, but it's relevant hear as well...

For all of you outdoor enthusiasts, extreme sport junkies and generally anyone who loves movies of beautiful places, check this out:

Banff Mountain Festival

Every year, outdoor film makers and photographers get together in Banff, Canada. It's kind of like the Sundace for outdoor enthusiasts. Over 300 films are submitted, ~60 are chosen for awards and then 8-10 are selected to tour the world. The tour was in Greenville last night and I went. The films were awesome! I highly recommend it. They proceeds usually go to local conservation charities.
kali
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
I posted this in the daily thread, but it's relevant hear as well...
For all of you outdoor enthusiasts, extreme sport junkies and generally anyone who loves movies of beautiful places, check this out:
Banff Mountain Festival
Every year, outdoor film makers and photographers get together in Banff, Canada. It's kind of like the Sundace for outdoor enthusiasts. Over 300 films are submitted, ~60 are chosen for awards and then 8-10 are selected to tour the world. The tour was in Greenville last night and I went. The films were awesome! I highly recommend it. They proceeds usually go to local conservation charities.


That looks way cool! I'm all about the outdoors!! I'll have to sign up.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by kali


Some really nice images have been coming over from the solar surface lately!
PriceIsRight
http://www.space.com/php/multimedia...gid=296&index=0

This is a fun link you'll be with all day. All types of images to click, pictures of all types of nature!
Mytee Mouse
Shark fin soup anyone!!
Mytee Mouse
Shark fin soup anyone!!
PriceIsRight
Nice pics!!

Sunday 3.25.07 8pm on The Discovery Channel:

A new 13 part series- Planet Earth. It looks like it'll be a great series!!
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergenc...w99-502-ah-1017
Here's the link to the series!
FTEnelson
dont forget about the deadliest catch coming soon

fuckin love that show
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by FTEnelson
dont forget about the deadliest catch coming soon

fuckin love that show


Discovery has a lot of shows I like. I just wish I could stay up later
:(
FTEnelson
TIVOOOOO my freind
Mytee Mouse
Dude I used to fish in Alaska, That pic is in the gulf of alaska rifght off of Yakatat!!
BRUTAL!
Mytee Mouse
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Discovery has a lot of shows I like. I just wish I could stay up later
:(
I agree I live on discovery and science chanel
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Mytee Mouse
Dude I used to fish in Alaska, That pic is in the gulf of alaska rifght off of Yakatat!!
BRUTAL!


That's some dangerous waters there!

I don't have TIVO, so I miss a lot of shows. I do have a VCR, but a lot of shows are on at the same time, so I get screwed either way hehee..oh well, luckily they repeat!
PriceIsRight
AURORA WATCH: A solar wind stream is due to hit Earth on March 25th or 26th, and the impact could spark a geomagnetic storm. Sky watchers from Scandinavia to Alaska should be alert for auroras.

The stage is set for a good display. Last night, even before the solar wind stream arrived in force, Northern Lights were active over Alberta, Canada:

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Just a bump to remind everyone that Planet Earth is on TONIGHT SUNDAY 3.25.07 AT 8PM! Go back a few posts to see details!
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Discovery has a lot of shows I like. I just wish I could stay up later
:(
discovery rocks and so does this thread. nice work
Zeke
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
AURORA WATCH: A solar wind stream is due to hit Earth on March 25th or 26th, and the impact could spark a geomagnetic storm. Sky watchers from Scandinavia to Alaska should be alert for auroras.

The stage is set for a good display. Last night, even before the solar wind stream arrived in force, Northern Lights were active over Alberta, Canada:
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Just a bump to remind everyone that Planet Earth is on TONIGHT SUNDAY 3.25.07 AT 8PM! Go back a few posts to see details!


Don't Do It...
According to 2 documentaries, viewing this phenomena will be detrimental to your existance.

The Night of the Comet and the Day of the Triffids
Zeeke
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
discovery rocks and so does this thread. nice work


Thanks man! Join in!

Zeke- I think i saw Night of the COmet years ago. I thought it was about comets. It was a bunch of teens partying. I could have been partying, instead of watching that movie heheee
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by Zeeke


Zeke's little brother?

That's the Helix Nebula in Aquarius. There was an email hoax going around calling it "The eye of God never before seen" COme look in my telescope, I'll show it to you any night of the week.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Nice pics!!

Sunday 3.25.07 8pm on The Discovery Channel:

A new 13 part series- Planet Earth. It looks like it'll be a great series!!
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergenc...w99-502-ah-1017
Here's the link to the series!


BUMP!!
Zeke
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Zeke's little brother?

That's the Helix Nebula in Aquarius. There was an email hoax going around calling it "The eye of God never before seen" COme look in my telescope, I'll show it to you any night of the week.


I know all about it....here are 2 more Eyes of God



PriceIsRight
Top one is a distorted pic of the DOuble Helix, and the bottom...you got me on that one!
:D
Zeke
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
Nice pics!!

Sunday 3.25.07 8pm on The Discovery Channel:

A new 13 part series- Planet Earth. It looks like it'll be a great series!!
http://dsc.discovery.com/convergenc...w99-502-ah-1017
Here's the link to the series!


:D:D
rigmover2307
watchin reruns of deadliest catch today, looking forward to "planet earth" this evening
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
watchin reruns of deadliest catch today, looking forward to "planet earth" this evening


I'm right there with ya man!
;)
airics
Quote: Originally posted by Zeke


Zeke just mooned PIR noice :D
kali
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
watchin reruns of deadliest catch today, looking forward to "planet earth" this evening
i just watched a snow leapard chase some lunch down a steep mountain.

DAMN!
that was intense!!!!
rigmover2307
Quote: Originally posted by kali
i just watched a snow leapard chase some lunch down a steep mountain.

DAMN!
that was intense!!!!



that was some pretty good footage took em a long damn time to get it too
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
that was some pretty good footage took em a long damn time to get it too


That was a cool show! By the way, it's 11 parts, not 13.
:)
MeSelf
Flowers are almost in full bloom here...Working on a portfolio of various plants...Here is an early morning photo of the apply named "Bleeding Heart"...
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by MeSelf
Flowers are almost in full bloom here...Working on a portfolio of various plants...Here is an early morning photo of the apply named "Bleeding Heart"...


I don't think I've ever seen those before. My brother raises orchids, and different types of flowers, but I don['t think I've seen those!
PriceIsRight
http://www.space.com/news/070323_cnes_ufos.html

Can we trust the French?
:D
rigmover2307
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
That was a cool show! By the way, it's 11 parts, not 13.
:)


i was especially intrigued by the forty some odd second slow mo of the great white taking down a seal that took 1 second in real time. that was almost better than "bullet time" in its first debut.
PriceIsRight
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
i was especially intrigued by the forty some odd second slow mo of the great white taking down a seat that took 1 second in real time. that was almost better than "bullet time" in its first debut.


Those high speed cameras catch details you'd never see just "real time" filming!
PriceIsRight
Here's some talk about the Big Dipper, and how to identify it.

http://scientificsonline.com/articl...--d2=1174988934
PriceIsRight
http://news.aol.com/topnews/article...S00010000000001

Giant toad found, 2 lbs, football sized!
GayTony
lookslike i may have some fun with this thread....gonna haveta wait to read it all tho gotta go out:(
PriceIsRight
A HEXAGON ON SATURN: The Cassini spacecraft has photographed a bizarre geometrical figure encircling Saturn's north pole: a hexagon. NASA scientists say they've never seen anything like it on any other planet.
Images are posted on http://spaceweather.com.

The formation of the giant hexagon is a mystery you can ponder tonight under the stars. After sunset on March 28th, Saturn rises in the east beautifully close to the Moon. This makes Saturn easy to find and enjoy. Even a small telescope will reveal the planet's broad rings and largest moons. Take a look!
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