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urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Looks like things are gonna be tough all around for a few of us ... Raiders, Vikings, Bills ... who can "lose" **cough cough throw cough cough** the most games to get the 2008 #1 pick?! Looks like three early contenders for that race for sure!


Throw in the Loins and Texans too.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
That entire division is gonna be a trainwreck! Bears, Vikings, Packers, Lions -- here you take it, no I don't want it you have it ... 9-7 record wins the division (war of attrition perhaps, for lack of a better way to put it) ...


Atleast I can get joy out of watching rex and favre stink it up. And I can always hope this is favres last year, only to get slapped in the face and have him come back AGAIN.
Swish
And if the packers end up getting moss, jesus those games would be about the only ones worth watching this year. :mad:
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
That entire division is gonna be a trainwreck! Bears, Vikings, Packers, Lions -- here you take it, no I don't want it you have it ... 9-7 record wins the division (war of attrition perhaps, for lack of a better way to put it) ...



Can there be a divison winner with a losing record?
MavTruck
hate to say it, but i hope the chargers go 0 fer the next two years and move to orange county
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Atleast I can get joy out of watching rex and favre stink it up. And I can always hope this is favres last year, only to get slapped in the face and have him come back AGAIN.

Favre's actually doing everyone a favor by sticking around. That'll help the Packer faithful forget about that wasted draft pick on Aaron Rogers a few years ago (he's a DOG).
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
And if the packers end up getting moss, jesus those games would be about the only ones worth watching this year. :mad:
They seem to be the only ones that want him. I thought that the Bears would make a run at him.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
And if the packers end up getting moss, jesus those games would be about the only ones worth watching this year. :mad:



Don't count on Moss going any where but the endzone and a career year.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
Can there be a divison winner with a losing record?


Of course, the NCFN knows all about that. One year we went to the playoffs with like 8 wins, while teams in another divisions missed out with like 10 - 11 wins. Shit its fun to watch those fans bitch and moan.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
Can there be a divison winner with a losing record?

Would you really call that a division "winner" or the division's winningest loser?! :D
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
They seem to be the only ones that want him. I thought that the Bears would make a run at him.


Vikings and Mia wanted him also but didn't want to pony up the picks for him.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
Don't count on Moss going any where but the endzone and a career year.


Im not counting that out at all, I just would bet anything it isnt with the raiders.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
Vikings and Mia wanted him also but didn't want to pony up the picks for him.


No one will pay for him when its clear he is going to be cut. The only people that don't think he will be cut are raider fans. lol
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Im not counting that out at all, I just would bet anything it isnt with the raiders.

My thoughts exactly ...
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Im not counting that out at all, I just would bet anything it isnt with the raiders.



The Packers are not going to give up that much for Moss. I heard The Raiders want a 1st, and either a 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th or 6th round pick.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
The Packers are not going to give up that much for Moss. I heard The Raiders want a 1st, and either a 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th or 6th round pick.


:lol: For a WR that has become injury prone and is in the final years of his playing days?
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
No one will pay for him when its clear he is going to be cut. The only people that don't think he will be cut are raider fans. lol


Why are they going to cut him when they are going to draft a stud who can chuck it down the field like The Old Raiders use to do.
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
The Packers are not going to give up that much for Moss. I heard The Raiders want a 1st, and either a 2nd or a 3rd and a 5th or 6th round pick.
That is too much if you ask me. I can see a second round pick.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
:lol: For a WR that has become injury prone and is in the final years of his playing days?


Thats what I heard. I know they want at least a 1st for him
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
:lol: For a WR that has become injury prone and is in the final years of his playing days?

Not to mention for a player who doesn't show up to play on every down that he's on the field for?! It's public record that he won't run full-out on a route that's not designed for him. Heck, he doesn't even run routes, if I remember what he said while he was still with the Vikings ...
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
Why are they going to cut him when they are going to draft a stud who can chuck it down the field like The Old Raiders use to do.


I can tell you love your team, but if you really think randy is gonna stick around while they break in a rookie QB you are nuts, and it takes atleast 2 years before 99% of rookies can start at that position. The reason he wanted to leave the vikings is because he wants a ring BAD.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Not to mention for a player who doesn't show up to play on every down that he's on the field for?! It's public record that he won't run full-out on a route that's not designed for him. Heck, he doesn't even run routes, if I remember what he said while he was still with the Vikings ...


Thats true, he wont run the middle of the field because he is scared of getting hurt. I love moss, and as a Vikings fan I will always have love for him, but all he has is the long ball. And when he is on his game he can drop a safety back, but they don't even respect him enough to do that anymore, its all man on man. lol
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
I can tell you love your team, but if you really think randy is gonna stick around while they break in a rookie QB you are nuts, and it takes atleast 2 years before 99% of rookies can start at that position. The reason he wanted to leave the vikings is because he wants a ring BAD.



He just missed out on it. Were a LOOOOONNNNGGGG way away from that and a Rookie QB can start and win just look at Big Ben.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Thats true, he wont run the middle of the field because he is scared of getting hurt. I love moss, and as a Vikings fan I will always have love for him, but all he has is the long ball. And when he is on his game he can drop a safety back, but they don't even respect him enough to do that anymore, its all man on man. lol

I wonder if it's ever gotten into his head that the defensive schemes key off his non-chalant attitude on plays that aren't going his way. If he's half-assing it at best on those plays, that just makes it easier for eleven guys to play against ten.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Thats true, he wont run the middle of the field because he is scared of getting hurt. I love moss, and as a Vikings fan I will always have love for him, but all he has is the long ball. And when he is on his game he can drop a safety back, but they don't even respect him enough to do that anymore, its all man on man. lol


I was hoping Tim Brown and Jerry Rice would have made a difference in his work ethic and being a Team player and Leader. I guess not.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
He just missed out on it. Were a LOOOOONNNNGGGG way away from that and a Rookie QB can start and win just look at Big Ben.


Big ben is a monster, no one knew he would come in and do what he did. Hell if it wasn't for an injury to madox? He wouldn't have even got a start that year if I remember right.

Can you name another rookie QB in the past 10 years that has done that though? It is very few and very far apart.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Big ben is a monster, no one knew he would come in and do what he did. Hell if it wasn't for an injury to madox? He wouldn't have even got a start that year if I remember right.

Can you name another rookie QB in the past 10 years that has done that though? It is very few and very far apart.


Thats true but it can be done though.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
I wonder if it's ever gotten into his head that the defensive schemes key off his non-chalant attitude on plays that aren't going his way. If he's half-assing it at best on those plays, that just makes it easier for eleven guys to play against ten.


He is so damn fast that in his day he would start off like that and lull them to sleep and then just turn it on and go 80 yards for a TD. Now days though he just doesnt seem to have it, or else he needed culpeeper as much as culpeeper needed him.
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Big ben is a monster, no one knew he would come in and do what he did. Hell if it wasn't for an injury to madox? He wouldn't have even got a start that year if I remember right.

Can you name another rookie QB in the past 10 years that has done that though? It is very few and very far apart.


there was that one guy named Dan Marino, He did o.k. in the NFL.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Big ben is a monster, no one knew he would come in and do what he did. Hell if it wasn't for an injury to madox? He wouldn't have even got a start that year if I remember right.

Can you name another rookie QB in the past 10 years that has done that though? It is very few and very far apart.

Some little shit that plays in the northeast ... damn, what was his name ... Tom somebody ... :D

Drew Bledsoe got hurt toward the end of the regular season, enter Brady ... Super Bowl ring that year, plus two more in the next three years ...
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
there was that one guy named Dan Marino, He did o.k. in the NFL.


I said 10 years man, not 50. :D
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
He is so damn fast that in his day he would start off like that and lull them to sleep and then just turn it on and go 80 yards for a TD. Now days though he just doesnt seem to have it, or else he needed culpeeper as much as culpeeper needed him.

TRUTH

He's probably afraid of another knee injury as well (like you said, he's afraid of getting hit in the middle of the field, whereas guys like Rice, Andre Reed, and Eric Moulds FEAST on the slant pattern).
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
I said 10 years man, not 50. :D
Asshole I am not that fucking Old. :D
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
TRUTH

He's probably afraid of another knee injury as well (like you said, he's afraid of getting hit in the middle of the field, whereas guys like Rice, Andre Reed, and Eric Moulds FEAST on the slant pattern).


Is moulds a FA this year? I seem to remember reading that the vikings were in talks with him to maybe bring him in.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
TRUTH

He's probably afraid of another knee injury as well (like you said, he's afraid of getting hit in the middle of the field, whereas guys like Rice, Andre Reed, and Eric Moulds FEAST on the slant pattern).



It's getting to dangerous to go over the middle to many big hard hitting and fast guys. TE's are the ones that teams send oiver the middle now. A TE is a dime a dozen.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
Asshole I am not that fucking Old. :D

You're both younger than me so ... :fuckyou: :D
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
Asshole I am not that fucking Old. :D


Holy shit, youre Dan Marino? Did you know ferrall did your sister? :D
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
You're both younger than me so ... :fuckyou: :D
i agree fuck the young punks :D just sayin
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Holy shit, youre Dan Marino? Did you know ferrall did your sister? :D



I fucked Dan Marino's sister



That is not true.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Is moulds a FA this year? I seem to remember reading that the vikings were in talks with him to maybe bring him in.

I don't know the answer to that. I stopped following him when he went to the Texans a couple years ago.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
i agree fuck the young punks :D just sayin



I thought you left?
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
You're both younger than me so ... :fuckyou: :D
I thought that you were in your mid 20's. your older that 34 ? get the fuck out of here.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
i agree fuck the young punks :D just sayin

Nice to know I'm not the resident old fart though ... :D
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
I thought you left?
thats what i wanted you to think ;) not really i did leave and never came back years ago :D
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Holy shit, youre Dan Marino? Did you know ferrall did your sister? :D
That is what they tell me, Every damn day.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
I don't know the answer to that. I stopped following him when he went to the Texans a couple years ago.


Must be him then.

• The Vikings have made casual inquiries about free-agent receiver Eric Moulds, released earlier this month by Houston. Moulds, 33, has 732 career receptions for the Texans and Buffalo Bills.[/QUOTE]
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I thought that you were in your mid 20's. your older that 34 ? get the fuck out of here.

I'll be 37 in August.
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
I'll be 37 in August.
your not that old, fucker. :D
Swish
Alright guys, I gotta be up in 4 hours so I will see you all in the daily thread. :D
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Must be him then.

• The Vikings have made casual inquiries about free-agent receiver Eric Moulds, released earlier this month by Houston. Moulds, 33, has 732 career receptions for the Texans and Buffalo Bills.
[/QUOTE]

He's a good 2nd or 3rd WR. He was great in his prime like 5 years ago.
turbogeoff
i have a question? since i cant get any football news over here. did parcells leave dallas or get fired and if so who took his place?
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Alright guys, I gotta be up in 4 hours so I will see you all in the daily thread. :D


Nite Svvish
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Must be him then.

• The Vikings have made casual inquiries about free-agent receiver Eric Moulds, released earlier this month by Houston. Moulds, 33, has 732 career receptions for the Texans and Buffalo Bills.

He's not a bad player, but he's gonna have to swallow some pride first. His stint in Houston had to be an eye-opener (and probably an ass-puckering one as well).
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
i have a question? since i cant get any football news over here. did parcells leave dallas or get fired and if so who took his place?
he left and was replaced by Wade Phiilips
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Alright guys, I gotta be up in 4 hours so I will see you all in the daily thread. :D
l8trzz
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
i have a question? since i cant get any football news over here. did parcells leave dallas or get fired and if so who took his place?



He Quit because of Owens and Wade Phillips a retread is now the Head Coach


HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
he left and was replaced by Wade Phiilips
oh boy here we go :o
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
i have a question? since i cant get any football news over here. did parcells leave dallas or get fired and if so who took his place?

He resigned, and now they've got some dumbass there that T.O. will absolutely lambast. Gonna be REAL ugly down there this year.
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Alright guys, I gotta be up in 4 hours so I will see you all in the daily thread. :D
latter Swish, your not that bad for a Queens fan Your like a tumor and have grown on me :D .
turbogeoff
maybe i should just stay here after all :D
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
maybe i should just stay here after all :D


I am. I was going to go to bed but fuck it Smokes show is coming on in an hour
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
your not that old, fucker. :D

Try convincing my body of that -- particularly my knees and my back ... **reaching for Geritol**
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
I am. I was going to go to bed but fuck it Smokes show is coming on in an hour
i ment stay in england :D
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
maybe i should just stay here after all :D
I would, they are going to suck this year dude. Wade has done nothing as a head Coach. Jerry was crying when they announced it too, it was fucking funny as hell.
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
I am. I was going to go to bed but fuck it Smokes show is coming on in an hour

I should try to get some sleep since I know my phone is gonna ring at some point to tell me to bring my truck around to the shop bay to get a tire replaced on the trailer.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Try convincing my body of that -- particularly my knees and my back ... **reaching for Geritol**
it only gets worse after 40 so you have that to look forward to :D
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
Try convincing my body of that -- particularly my knees and my back ... **reaching for Geritol**
I hear ya , I am torn up from the Corps.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I would, they are going to suck this year dude. Wade has done nothing as a head Coach. Jerry was crying when they announced it too, it was fucking funny as hell.
why was jerry cryin? wasnt it his choice?
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I hear ya , I am torn up from the Corps.
my feet are still fucked up from bootcamp and that was over 20yrs ago :mad:
mcbutton1970
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
it only gets worse after 40 so you have that to look forward to :D

Yeah, at 40, I won't even be able to reach for the Geritol! :D
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
why was jerry cryin? wasnt it his choice?
it was tears of joy, his buddy is now the head coach.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by mcbutton1970
I should try to get some sleep since I know my phone is gonna ring at some point to tell me to bring my truck around to the shop bay to get a tire replaced on the trailer.


Have fun man.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
it was tears of joy, his buddy is now the head coach.
lmao...we saw how that worked out with jimmy :D
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
why was jerry cryin? wasnt it his choice?



He was the only one left. Jimmy said he wasn't coming back and Jerry isn't hiring a Collage coach.
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
lmao...we saw how that worked out with jimmy :D
I feel that this is just because the guy they wanted was Cower.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
He was the only one left. Jimmy said he wasn't coming back and Jerry isn't hiring a Collage coach.
i thought they were talkin fisher for awhile? must have had time left on contract
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I feel that this is just because the guy they wanted was Cower.


Cower quit before that and Wade might just be a band aid until Jerry can throw enough money at Cower. I dought Cower will coach the Cowboys.
Hippiebitch
26 pgs and its bedtime
Night Marks...catch ya on the flipside
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I feel that this is just because the guy they wanted was Cower.
lol cower knows how jerry is so he prolly took a shit on it
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by Hippiebitch
26 pgs and its bedtime
Night Marks...catch ya on the flipside
nice....nite hb
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
Cower quit before that and Wade might just be a band aid until Jerry can throw enough money at Cower. I dought Cower will coach the Cowboys.
Cower did play for the Browns, wonder if he will be offered that job at the end of the year ?
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by Hippiebitch
26 pgs and its bedtime
Night Marks...catch ya on the flipside



Nice Hippie
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
Cower did play for the Browns, wonder if he will be offered that job at the end of the year ?
wasnt he wanting more fam. time? you think he will come back?
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by Hippiebitch
26 pgs and its bedtime
Night Marks...catch ya on the flipside
I will have a good night now after looking at that. Night Hippy.
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
Cower did play for the Browns, wonder if he will be offered that job at the end of the year ?


Theres no way of that Browns are to shitty for him to go there. If he coaches again it'll be for a elite team. Like the Giants, Chiefs and so on.
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
wasnt he wanting more fam. time? you think he will come back?
I think so, He seem like one of those guys that might take a year or two off but will be back into coaching. It is in his blood.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I think so, He seem like one of those guys that might take a year or two off but will be back into coaching. It is in his blood.
by looking at him its all in his jaw :D
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
by looking at him its all in his jaw :D
I still swear that Sgt Slaughter is his daddy.
urlocalraiderma
I can't see him coaching another team. It'll just look so werid.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
I still swear that Sgt Slaughter is his daddy.
hell yea that works :D
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
I can't see him coaching another team. It'll just look so werid.


I thought that was about a lot of guys, But if the money is right. I could see him doing it.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
I can't see him coaching another team. It'll just look so werid.
well he was an asst. coach back in the jj days of the cowboys so i could see that :D just sayin
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
well he was an asst. coach back in the jj days of the cowboys so i could see that :D just sayin
Cowboys have produced some good Head Coaches. Ie Dan Reaves, and so one.
turbogeoff
damn im gettin hungry and i hate all the food over here :mad:
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
Cowboys have produced some good Head Coaches. Ie Dan Reaves, and so one.
very true
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
damn im gettin hungry and i hate all the food over here :mad:


That has to fucking suck. So have any spotted dick yet ?
urlocalraiderma
Quote: Originally posted by turbogeoff
damn im gettin hungry and i hate all the food over here :mad:



WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHh

I don't like the food here.
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by AZ Marine
That has to fucking suck. So have any spotted dick yet ?
i have heard that over here, but havent had any
turbogeoff
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
h

I don't like the food here.
:bigclap:
AZ Marine
Quote: Originally posted by urlocalraiderma
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
h

I don't like the food here.


how can you go wrong with In and Out burger ? We have one opening out here and I can not wait for it.

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