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| Booyahkasha |
I have only been listening to Bubba for a few months.
I get what kayfabe and kayfive mean, however I dont understand where they came from...
do they have a real origin or a story? or are they just Bubba words like flappedthefuckup and kabookiedout. |
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| Scales |
A lot of the "Bubba language" that he uses, is used by professional wrestlers.
Originally, it was from a secret language that Carnie's used to talk to each other during carnvials. It is actually called "Carnie". Somewhere along the line, professional wrestlers adopted the language.
There is quite a bit of reading about it on the internet, pretty interesting actually. |
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| neddlymandingo |
I vaugely remember them mentioning once on air, how "Kayfaybe" or whichever version of it was being used...Is from a japanese wrestleing term that roughly means "Something that is not for the audience to know" or "Something to be kept behind the scenes" or something else along those lines...
but that term being taken by the american wrestlers working over in japan, and brought back here and evolved into something close to the term the guys use on the show as opposed to the orginal japanese word.
i'm not like 100% positive that's the orgin of the word though. |
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| Scales |
| Quote: Pro wrestling can trace some of its stylistic origins back to carnivals and Catch Wrestling, where the term "kayfabe" is thought to have originated as carny slang for "protecting the secrets of the business." The term "kayfabe" itself may ultimately originate from the Pig Latin form of "fake" ("ake-fay") or the phrase "be fake |
Wikipedia is amazing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kayfabe |
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| Scales |
There is actually a whole wikipedia page dedicated to professional wrestling slang
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Profes...wrestling_slang
a few interesting ones...
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Babyface - (or face or baby), a good guy (compared with "tweener" and "heel").
Carny - A language used by wrestlers to talk to each other around people not associated with the business so they wouldn't understand what they were saying, often used to keep the secrets of the business.
Cheap heat - when a wrestler (often a heel) incites a negative crowd reaction by insulting the crowd (for example, by insulting the city, or a local sports team) or by using a news event as part of his promo.
Dark match - a non-televised match at a televised show used to warm up the crowd (compare "house show"). A dark match before the show begins is usually used to test out new talent (often local to the event). A dark match after the show typically features main-event level wrestlers either to sell more tickets, or send the crowd home happy.
The Deal - another term for title belt.
Gimmick - a unique trait that defines a wrestler's identity, or an implement used to cheat i.e., Jeff Jarrett's gimmick of knocking out opponents with his guitar (the guitar itself is also a "gimmick"). Can also mean a wrestler's attire or outfit.
Gimmicked - an object that has been altered to break easily.
Hulking Up - when a wrestler begins to come back in a match by no-selling a wrestler's moves and fights back. Named for Hulk Hogan, who did this in many of his matches in America. (see Superhuman Comeback)
Mark - a fan who believes that some or all of professional wrestling is real (compare "smark"). The term can also be applied to a fan who idolizes a particular wrestler, promotion, or style of wrestling to a point some might consider excessive.
Marking out - a moment of enjoying professional wrestling "for what it is" rather than analyzing its staged nature.
Promo - a promotional interview (as in "cutting a promo"). Often includes either an "in-ring interview" or (on television) a skit by wrestlers and other performers to advance a storyline or feud.
Rib- practical jokes played by or on wrestlers.
Shoot - any "real" event in the world or wrestling (as in "shoot interview"; compare "worked shoot").
Swerve - a surprise plot twist.
Work - a staged event, from the carnival tradition of "working the crowd". |
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| Mike in Miami |
Right its when wrestlers used to always, both on tv and in interviews, etc would pretend everything that happened was real... wrestler goes into rehab or hurts foot in basketball accident and he's "injured" in the ring and out for 5months... so and so hates this guy, etc... It was the "illusion" that everything that happened was real...
I learned when I was like 5 years old when me and my mom were at the sun dome in tampa to buy tickets to wrestling event and made some wrong turn to find andre the giant and several others playing cards together.... lol... |
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| TSS Taylor |
I wasn't a wrestling fan. And for the longest time I thought it had to do with the Kobe rape accuser. I know for a while that the media wasn't supposed to mention her name. Her name is Kate Faber. I thought they shortened it to make Ka Fabe.
I learned from a wrestling friend of mine how wrong I was. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by Mike in Miami
I learned when I was like 5 years old when me and my mom were at the sun dome in tampa to buy tickets to wrestling event and made some wrong turn to find andre the giant and several others playing cards together.... lol... |
That reminds me of the early 80's. Up here, we had Stampede Wrestling, and they would come to small towns and wrestle in highschools or the local arena's.
The next morning, the old guy across the alley who had taken me to the wrestling, saw all of the guys at coffee row the next morning, and came to get me to meet them all and get autographs.
They all were there, the harts, Dynamite Kid... etc, enjoying breakfast together. I can't remember exactly how they answered me when I asked why they were sitting together if they hate each other, but I thought that was really odd.
I should look for all my old Stampede Wrestling signatures, I'm sure i've got at least a couple of Bret Hart, Owen Hart and more that might be worth something now. |
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| Mike in Miami |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
That reminds me of the early 80's. Up here, we had Stampede Wrestling, and they would come to small towns and wrestle in highschools or the local arena's.
The next morning, the old guy across the alley who had taken me to the wrestling, saw all of the guys at coffee row the next morning, and came to get me to meet them all and get autographs.
They all were there, the harts, Dynamite Kid... etc, enjoying breakfast together. I can't remember exactly how they answered me when I asked why they were sitting together if they hate each other, but I thought that was really odd.
I should look for all my old Stampede Wrestling signatures, I'm sure i've got at least a couple of Bret Hart, Owen Hart and more that might be worth something now. |
I used to love watching old Stampede wrestling tapes my friend had... those and some of the japanese orgs... I just can't get into them anymore though... i guess its cuz i can watch MMA and real fighting now. And the storylines are so uh... stupid...now...
like i could give a shit about who's ugly hair gets cut off at a ppv lol... 39.99 for real figthing ppv or 39.99 for what boils down to a movie or play. |
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| WillieJones |
| I loved watching BigTime Wrestling with my grandpa when I was a kid. He would swear up and down that it was real. I still remember the time when Moon Dog Mane swallowed a live goldfish! No kayfabe there... |
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| VENOM |
scales good job man !!!!!!!! KUDOS !!!!!!
that's some pretty cool shit |
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| neddlymandingo |
Indeed, it is. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by VENOM
scales good job man !!!!!!!! KUDOS !!!!!!
that's some pretty cool shit |
Thanks, I find the history of things like secret languages interesting.
There is actually a section on carny on wikipedia too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carny
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Mark - A target for swindling, especially one whose gullibility has been demonstrated. Derived from the covert use of chalk to mark the backs of especially ripe targets. The term has entered the popular lexicon, usually as "easy mark."
-iz- - inserted between the syllables of words to serve as a cipher or cryptolect. |
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| GayTony |
actually one year ago almost to the day, someone here posted a link to the Bubba Dictionary, i think it weas at BTLS.net (the other fan site)...it explained the japanese origins of kayfabe/five, shoots, works, ribs, mcgillicuttys, jones, shoves and reshoves, etc etc.
maybe Knot has the link..? |
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| kayfabe |
| <----- good question. :D |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by GayTony
actually one year ago almost to the day, someone here posted a link to the Bubba Dictionary, i think it weas at BTLS.net (the other fan site)...it explained the japanese origins of kayfabe/five, shoots, works, ribs, mcgillicuttys, jones, shoves and reshoves, etc etc. |
I think mcgillicutty is something Bubba came up with.
Kabuki is from the japanese, I think it was stage make up similar to what Kiss wore.
I'm pretty srue that kayfabe, works, ribs and others were taken from Wrestling slang, which was originally based on Carny. |
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| Leroy Jenkins |
| Howard invented it. Don't you know that every radio personality in the past 20 years copied him. |
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| GayTony |
Quote: Originally posted by Leroy Jenkins
Howard invented it. Don't you know that every radio personality in the past 20 years copied him. |
take this shit to the O&A sites, you pus-filled cunt. :rolleyes: |
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| dontfeedphil |
| My favorite bubbism is Gary Cox, see if you can figure that one out. That Gary cox is something else. |
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