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| KC CULTIVATION |
"The Iceman" Chuck Liddell Vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson
Under Card
Terry Martin Vs. Ivan Salaverry
"The People's Warrior" Josh Burkman Vs. Karo "The Heat" Parisyan
Houston Alexander Vs. "The Dean of Mean" Keith Jardine
From The I Don't Get It Department...
Kalib Starnes Vs. Chris Leben
Fight Card
Rampage Vs Iceman I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMz...related&search=
The fight card is shit but I can't wait for the main event.
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| Salkicksass |
I can't wait.. It's gonna be a great fight night.
Nobody's giving Burkman a shot against Karo..
There are actually some good fights on the card with interesting match-ups.. Will be 10x better then a boxing night, for sure!! |
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| Salkicksass |
| Leben is talking mad shit about him being the best in the UFC and that he will probably chase money after his contract is up.. It will be an interesting fight especially if Leben loses. |
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| IGOWFO |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION The fight card is shit but I can't wait for the main event. |
I agree. This is going to be a great main event. I look for Jackson to win in the third! Should have taken a poll on this KC! Maybe you can still change it. |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Salkicksass Leben is talking mad shit about him being the best in the UFC and that he will probably chase money after his contract is up.. It will be an interesting fight especially if Leben loses. |
Is he really? Talking all that junk? He has lost three in a row. You lose this much and you are shit out the UFC to start over. He sucks balls! Chase money? UFC owns everything worth fighting in. Let Leben goto Bodog-they blow |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by IGOWFO I agree. This is going to be a great main event. I look for Jackson to win in the third! Should have taken a poll on this KC! Maybe you can still change it. |
It's going to be a blood bath or not Ice could KO him. I'm still undecided. How many times will I go against The Iceman. Guy is in his prime |
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| Salkicksass |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION Is he really? Talking all that junk? He has lost three in a row. You lose this much and you are shit out the UFC to start over. He sucks balls! Chase money? UFC owns everything worth fighting in. Let Leben goto Bodog-they blow |
I posted what he said under the UFC/Pride Info thread.. It's kinda funny.. |
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| W00tW00t |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
The fight card is shit but I can't wait for the main event. |
The best fights of the night are usually the non-main event fights. There have been some great main events, but for every one of those there has been two orlovski v Silvia 3's where i just want to gouge my eyes out and get my money back.
If the main fights ends as quickly as i'm thinking it is then it's gonna be a dissapointment. |
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| bubba4pres |
| Iceman wins via KO in 2nd rd. Write it down. |
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| irish_na |
| This is gonna be an awesome fight! |
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| bk0 |
I'm giving the edge to Quinton, provided he has trained adequately and his nerves don't rattle him. He took everything Liddell could dish out in their first fight and gave it back just as good. Rampage beat Liddell at his own game the first time, something everyone else avoids. He has a fucking tough chin and crazy heart.
Karo Parisyan is a machine, that's going to be a great fight if you enjoy grappling. Some of the newer fans might get bored but he's going to put on a Judo/BJJ clinic.
It'll be interesting to see if Jardine can bring it again or if he'll fade off as a one fight wonder.
I expect this to be Leben's last fight in the UFC. Regardless of how hard he may or may not train, the guy comes off like a hack. He'll have to pull off a miracle here to both win and get the UFC to give him another contract. |
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| Rogue Guy |
Jackson gave Liddell a beat down back in 2003, but Liddell is much improved since then.
I'd give the edge to Liddell because he seems indestructible right now. But, anything can happen, Rampage fights like a bull and could definitely do some damage.
Leben=:clowny: |
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| Salkicksass |
| Liddell is in a zone. It will be an upset in my book if Rampage wins. I see Chuck with a KO within the first two rounds.. |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by W00tW00t The best fights of the night are usually the non-main event fights. There have been some great main events, but for every one of those there has been two orlovski v Silvia 3's where i just want to gouge my eyes out and get my money back.
If the main fights ends as quickly as i'm thinking it is then it's gonna be a dissapointment. |
I don't know about that I have not seen a good undercard in about 5PPV |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Rogue Guy Jackson gave Liddell a beat down back in 2003, but Liddell is much improved since then.
I'd give the edge to Liddell because he seems indestructible right now. But, anything can happen, Rampage fights like a bull and could definitely do some damage.
Leben=:clowny: |
Leben new back tat
Can't wait for him to be stomped again |
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| MavTruck |
| Just hope to make it home in time to see the freaking hole card. Hate going all the way down to Newport Beach just to see the main event when i can get the results hear just as quick. and see the fight clips on the net the next day. |
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| tears4fearsforv |
Lidell hasn't improved that much, hes working the angles a little better thats about it. The advantage he really has is confidence. He's fought wrestlers whom are a horrible match up for him, the last decent striker he faced was rampage. Hes also 38 and has questionable cardio.
Rampage hasn't been the same since his 2 loss's against silva. Hes just recently getting back in the groove.
If it was the rampage of 3 years ago he would have a definite advantage. As is, its about 50/50
Rampage is getting 2 to 1 odds though :) .
Great betting odds. |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Hey NT bust out that gif of the Iceman if you got any. I'm looking forward to The Jager predictions. Looking to make some money this week.
Nice Odds. Chuck is amazing and really going to be ready for this fight. Going to be fun. I guess Bubba is picking Rampage. |
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| emt3508 |
| Iceman is probably my favorite fighter in the UFC right now but I can't really explain why but I am leaning toward Jackson to win this one. I sure hope I am wrong. If Chuck does win this fight I think there will be know arguement that he is by far the best fighter in the UFC. |
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| Salkicksass |
Chuck Liddell’s longtime friend, training partner and trainer John Hackleman joined MMAWeekly’s SoundOff Radio show to talk about Chuck’s preparation and training camp for his upcoming fight with Quinton ‘Rampage’ Jackson.
Hackleman has been with Liddell in some facet for the past 16 years now, and he said of this training camp, “This is the best training camp we’ve ever had. The best sparring partners, the best conditioning…he [Chuck] didn’t get one single injury, it was perfect in every way.”
With this fight, Liddell will look to avenge the only blotch on an otherwise spotless fighting career. Jackson bested Liddell by TKO in Pride’s Final Conflict in 2003, but since his losing effort in Japan ‘The Iceman’ has been on a tear, winning each of his last seven fights and avenging the only other losses on his (20-3) record by defeating Randy Couture by KO twice (UFC’s 52, 57) and Jeremy Horn by TKO (UFC 54).
Liddell’s rematch fight with ‘Rampage’ has garnered a lot of media attention of late with UFC 71 commercials constantly replaying on TV and with well-known news organizations such as NBC Sports and ESPNEWS covering the event. With all of Liddell’s recent celebrity, one might think that it would be difficult for Chuck to simply concentrate on fighting and not be sidetracked by all of the other hype surrounding him.
After all, Chuck has recently starred in HBO’s hit series “Entourage” and was even given a cover page and article in ESPN The Magazine. And of course, this notoriety all comes in addition to Chuck’s in-cage accolades and the legions of adoring fans that accompany being the UFC’s light-heavyweight champion.
But Hackleman sees Chuck’s status differently. He knows that Chuck is the same guy that he’s always been, save maybe a few extra zeros to contend with each April 15th…
“He [Chuck] comes into my house and uses my restroom – which I can’t usually use for an hour after that – and then he goes out to the cage or the gym in my back yard and trains just as he always has… nothing is different. He acts the same around the celebs as he does around his sparring partners. He treats everyone the same,” Hackleman said.
One thing that will be different in this fight, though, will be that Chuck has done all of his training with John Hackleman at “The Pit” in San Luis Obispo. Before his 2003 meeting with ‘Rampage,’ Chuck decided to try his hand learning some other styles in different places from some different people. After his loss to Jackson, though, Chuck said, “Back to the Pit,” and that is where he has remained for all of his pre-fight preparation in the years since.
John said, “He wanted to try some new things, but it just didn’t work for him and he just liked the old-school “Pit” way…we’ve got a good little ‘Entourage’ here.”
On this Saturday night, Liddell and his throng of fans are on one mission, revenge. Put aside the hype, forget the television appearances and even forget the fact that the UFC’s light-heavyweight belt is on the line. Liddell’s career will always be blemished unless he finds a way to separate ‘Rampage’ from his faculties. And those who have watched Chuck fight know that this is precisely what he will endeavor to do.
The only question left for Hackleman is simply, “How will Chuck beat Rampage?”
John said, “I think it’s going to be a great fight. I’ve got nothing but respect for Rampage…he’s a great fighter and a great guy. I love that guy and I think he’s a real asset to the sport. But I think it’s just going to be that Chuck is a little bit stronger, a little bit faster, a little more dynamic and a little more on his game right now…with the combination of things I think Chuck is going to be the victor. I don’t predict a knockout, I don’t predict a round...I just think that Chuck’s going to beat Rampage.”
Regardless of the victor on Saturday night, though, this fight is one for the fans. Neither of these two men wants to win or lose by decision and that is going to make for an energetic, entertaining fight. Be sure to tune in to see if the ‘Iceman’ can avenge his final loss or if ‘Rampage’ will take Chuck’s belt and go up on him 2-0. Only time will tell the outcome…and that time comes in Las Vegas on this Saturday night. |
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| cajun_satan |
| That tattoo isn't going to help him in the octagon. He is lacking in training, raw talent, or both. If he doesn't win saturday then he might not get another chance. |
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| Salkicksass |
Quote: Originally posted by cajun_satan That tattoo isn't going to help him in the octagon. He is lacking in training, raw talent, or both. If he doesn't win saturday then he might not get another chance. | Who are you talking about? |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by emt3508 Iceman is probably my favorite fighter in the UFC right now but I can't really explain why but I am leaning toward Jackson to win this one. I sure hope I am wrong. If Chuck does win this fight I think there will be know arguement that he is by far the best fighter in the UFC. |
It's complex as hell-I tend to think Chuck is going to get revenge and Rampage has had one fight in the oct and did not look amazing or anything. I guess I need to put my money on Chuck. Got a Big Weekend Coming Up |
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| Salkicksass |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION It's complex as hell-I tend to think Chuck is going to get revenge and Rampage has had one fight in the oct and did not look amazing or anything. I guess I need to put my money on Chuck. Got a Big Weekend Coming Up |
Watching Countdown to UFC 71 last night on Spike has me wondering about the outcome. Couture picks Rampage and with all the upsets this year i'm kinda nervous for Chuck. I just have to rely on how Chuck has fought the last seven fights. All I know is it will be a great fight.
From what i've seen so far not to many people know about the fighters on the undercard. There will be some great fights and hopefully if the fighters fight up to their potential then the fans will walk away happy with another great UFC show.. |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
| Just watched All Access with Rampage up in Big Bear. This guy is entertainment personified. Rampaged Kick Ass In K1? They are talking about his sick submissions....News to me. Ready to go for the dog after watching this. |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Salkicksass Who are you talking about? |
Leben |
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| kaylot |
| Does anyone know what approximate time the Liddell-Jackson fight will take place? I'm trying to time it, as I have to go to a graduation ceremony -- maybe 8:30 p.m. Pacific/ 11:30 p.m. Eastern??? |
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| bk0 |
| Usually the main event happens somewhere around 11:30/11:45PM eastern, but it's difficult to predict. If all the undercard fights run long or short it could be happening at 12:15 or 11:00. |
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| W00tW00t |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION I don't know about that I have not seen a good undercard in about 5PPV |
Really? I'm terrible with names of some of these guys but i can clearly remember a fight in 70 where the 2 155ers fought a incredible match that went the distance... 2 spanish guys. |
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| grim |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION Just watched All Access with Rampage up in Big Bear. This guy is entertainment personified. Rampaged Kick Ass In K1? They are talking about his sick submissions....News to me. Ready to go for the dog after watching this. | did u watch the show when rampage & joe rogan were eating popeyes on his tailgate and they ran into killah priest from wu-tang coming out of a check cashing store..it was funny |
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| Gator_Russ |
Quote: Originally posted by W00tW00t Really? I'm terrible with names of some of these guys but i can clearly remember a fight in 70 where the 2 155ers fought a incredible match that went the distance... 2 spanish guys. |
Package guy and his homie. I saw that, the guy in white's package was so blatant that I had to look away most of the fight.
It was alright, Possibly even good. Incredible? Not so much.
I'm taking Rampage to usher in a new era in UFC. Then my boy Keith Jardine to upset him later on down the road.
Don't fuck with the Dean of Mean! :D |
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| ripstoke |
| fuck it i threw money on jackson at +180 for shits and giggles, won't be suprised if he wins or losses. also took kalib to beat leben for S+G but could happn depending on which kalib shows up. like IS to beat terry martin. |
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| W00tW00t |
Quote: Originally posted by Gator_Russ Package guy and his homie. I saw that, the guy in white's package was so blatant that I had to look away most of the fight.
It was alright, Possibly even good. Incredible? Not so much.
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I was more entertained by that than anything else on the card, the fight not so much the guy's package. |
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| Salkicksass |
| ESPNNews will be showing the weigh-in live at 7pm ET.. |
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| webman |
| Rumor has it that the "ICE MAN's" hand is F'ed up, will he still be fighting by the end of the night...Rampage in the 2nd round, gonna knock the balls outta the ICEMAN...YES |
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| dson |
shogun is going to be announced tonight
to either fight the winner, or at 72
another strong rumor is a hendo announcement, or both him and shogun |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Just Arrived At My Friends Hose We Are All Jacked For The Fight
Mass Amount Of Weed - Check!
Crown-CHECK!
Grub-CHECK!
PPV Ordered -CHECK!
It's Time To Roll! Get Faded |
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| Heatherwiz |
| We cant find a bar with it playing here at the beach :( much sadness.... |
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| Heatherwiz |
yeah already been there... looks like we are sol |
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| Salkicksass |
PPV Ordered and mini octagon set.. Time to make some friends tap before the action starts in Vegas.. I can't wait..
Liddell by KO 2nd Rd.
Burkman by Ref Stoppage 3rd Rd.
Jardine by decision
Starnes by submission
Irvin by KO 1st. Rd.
Other fights probably won't be shown.. Very good card tonight.. |
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| VikingDanForman |
I just hope Leben gets is ASS kicked |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Heatherwiz yeah already been there... looks like we are sol |
I will chip in 10 bucks-what is your paypal info? I'm cool like that |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Salkicksass PPV Ordered and mini octagon set.. Time to make some friends tap before the action starts in Vegas.. I can't wait..
Liddell by KO 2nd Rd.
Burkman by Ref Stoppage 3rd Rd.
Jardine by decision
Starnes by submission
Irvin by KO 1st. Rd.
Other fights probably won't be shown.. Very good card tonight.. |
What about that Ultimate fighter -Brawl-classic. Most technical street brawl ever-lol
drinking like a fish-going down smooth :cool: |
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| oug13 |
| That was a real good story just now on ESPN....Dana made the UFC look good |
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| Swish |
| God damn, is anyone gonna be in the thread tonight or everyone go and get some real friends? :D |
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| oug13 |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish God damn, is anyone gonna be in the thread tonight or everyone go and get some real friends? :D |
I'll be lurking & posting some..... ;) |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish God damn, is anyone gonna be in the thread tonight or everyone go and get some real friends? :D |
I drove two hours to hang a t a frinds house-I'm hardcore
I will be popping in-but I'm high |
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| slitlobes |
anyone have any promo codes for UFC ondemand.
im buying the fight live online. |
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| Swish |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION I drove two hours to hang a t a frinds house-I'm hardcore
I will be popping in-but I'm high |
Summer means I watch UFC alone. Fucking races started up and every damn saturday I dont even waste time trying to find my boys until after 11. So fuck paying 40 bucks to watch alone. :D |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish Summer means I watch UFC alone. Fucking races started up and every damn saturday I dont even waste time trying to find my boys until after 11. So fuck paying 40 bucks to watch alone. :D |
yea-it's brutal. I say fuck it and buy solo but it's sure nice to split it. You can find live feeds here and gite free shit online. Check the sports section here they will have shit up i'm shure. some people one here are cool enough to hook ya up. sometime all ya need is winamp |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by oug13 I'll be lurking & posting some..... ;) |
Sup OUG Nizzle |
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| Swish |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION yea-it's brutal. I say fuck it and buy solo but it's sure nice to split it. You can find live feeds here and gite free shit online. Check the sports section here they will have shit up i'm shure. some people one here are cool enough to hook ya up. sometime all ya need is winamp |
Damn right man, got my stream lined up. :D |
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| Swish |
| START THE FUCKER, this elevator music is pissing me off. |
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| Jaeger |
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION Hey NT bust out that gif of the Iceman if you got any. I'm looking forward to The Jager predictions. Looking to make some money this week.
Nice Odds. Chuck is amazing and really going to be ready for this fight. Going to be fun. I guess Bubba is picking Rampage. |
Hey ya, KC. been wicked busy, and I'm acutally out of town for the weekend.
No in depth predictions this time around.
cept I'll take Karo.
and as always I'll bet on black ( I'm not going to say it and jinx the guy) he's on my list of 5 that can get it done.
due to a shit connection I won't be around much tonight. But I'll be watching |
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| greddy10 |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger Hey ya, KC. been wicked busy, and I'm acutally out of town for the weekend.
No in depth predictions this time around.
cept I'll take Karo.
and as always See Sig. ( I'm not going to say it and jinx the guy) he's on my list of 5 that can get it done.
due to a shit connection I won't be around much tonight. But I'll be watching | How' have you been? |
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| Jaeger |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10 How' have you been? | Little busy, but I've got the weekend to take care of some personal stuff. So I"m in a nice hotel with a shitty net connection up here just outside detroit. |
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| Swish |
| And were up, about god damn time. |
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| greddy10 |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish And were up, about god damn time. | :rock: |
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| greddy10 |
| Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch: |
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| Swish |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10 Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch: |
Man I noticed that too. Iceman up there looks a little flabby with a beer belly. Rampage was fucking ripped though. |
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| oug13 |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10 Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch: |
That's why Hogan tan's......but yes......
Wish the countdown....was live with a intro...... |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger Little busy, but I've got the weekend to take care of some personal stuff. So I"m in a nice hotel with a shitty net connection up here just outside detroit. |
Cool-takce care
Going to be a brawl
Taking Rampage
And Karo |
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| VikingDanForman |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10 Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch: | its you ya homo |
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| KC CULTIVATION |
Quote: Originally posted by oug13 That's why Hogan tan's......but yes......
Wish the countdown....was live with a intro...... |
I hear ya to replay this shit over and over is retarded. Goto some young guys live at ringside. Show some weigh ins-espn clips-treat is like wrestling hype. I want huge intro thumping music |
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| oug13 |
| anyone else's not coming in? |
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| Swish |
| everyones favorite nedsmark shows up from time to time, he might show up. lol |
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| oug13 |
| just came on! :dancing: |
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| jackelneck |
my iggy always works....:D
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| Swish |
| I use to be a big time leban fan, he seems like such a bitch now days though. |
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| jackelneck |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish everyones favorite nedsmark shows up from time to time, he might show up. lol |
this time, ask for him to put a finger in his ass for a week...:D
again |
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| oug13 |
Quote: Originally posted by jackelneck my iggy always works....:D
:roach: | good to cya! :roach:
agree, he's a bitch |
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| jackelneck |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish I use to be a big time leban fan, he seems like such a bitch now days though. |
he was at his best when he was pissed on....:D |
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| Swish |
Quote: Originally posted by jackelneck this time, ask for him to put a finger in his ass for a week...:D
again |
hahaa, not sure if he will bet with me anymore. |
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| jackelneck |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish hahaa, not sure if he will bet with me anymore. |
you may have left a bitter taste in his mouth....:D |
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| Swish |
| oh yum, hot bitches. |
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| oug13 |
| nice end to the round! |
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| Swish |
| Nice first fight so far. |
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| oug13 |
| Big shot!....nice take down! |
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| Swish |
| leben gassed already. |
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| Swish |
| not as gassed as I thought though. lol |
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| oug13 |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish leben gassed already. | they both are |
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| jackelneck |
| this match is heating up....:D |
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| Swish |
| hah fuckin good fight. Leben lost another one I would say. |
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| Magnum PI |
| Kalib is such a disappointing fighter. He starts out strong, but usually gasses and puts out a half ass effort. |
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| Magnum PI |
| Starnes looked shocked at the win. |
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| Swish |
| So much for being a fan favorite. He just got shit on big time. hahahah |
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| oug13 |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish So much for being a fan favorite. He just got shit on big time. hahahah | ya just an asshole |
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| jackelneck |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish So much for being a fan favorite. He just got shit on big time. hahahah |
his hair stylist did that last match..:D
and, yes, yes he did... |
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| Swish |
| I dont see jardine losing, he is just a fucking beast. |
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| oug13 |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish I dont see jardine losing, he is just a fucking beast. | agreed |
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| Swish |
| dude needs some better entrance music though. lol |
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| jackelneck |
Quote: Originally posted by Swish I dont see jardine losing, he is just a fucking beast. |
i agree with that...:cool: |
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| Swish |
| Holy fuck is all I can say. |
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| Swish |
| Best fight I have seen in a long long time. |
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| oug13 |
| He beat the FUCK out of HIM WOW WOW!!!!!!!!! |
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