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KC CULTIVATION
"The Iceman" Chuck Liddell Vs. Quinton "Rampage" Jackson




Under Card

Terry Martin Vs. Ivan Salaverry

"The People's Warrior" Josh Burkman Vs. Karo "The Heat" Parisyan

Houston Alexander Vs. "The Dean of Mean" Keith Jardine

From The I Don't Get It Department...
Kalib Starnes Vs. Chris Leben


Fight Card

Rampage Vs Iceman I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMz...related&search=



The fight card is shit but I can't wait for the main event.

Salkicksass
I can't wait.. It's gonna be a great fight night.

Nobody's giving Burkman a shot against Karo..

There are actually some good fights on the card with interesting match-ups.. Will be 10x better then a boxing night, for sure!!
Salkicksass
Leben is talking mad shit about him being the best in the UFC and that he will probably chase money after his contract is up.. It will be an interesting fight especially if Leben loses.
IGOWFO
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
The fight card is shit but I can't wait for the main event.


I agree. This is going to be a great main event. I look for Jackson to win in the third! Should have taken a poll on this KC! Maybe you can still change it.
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Salkicksass
Leben is talking mad shit about him being the best in the UFC and that he will probably chase money after his contract is up.. It will be an interesting fight especially if Leben loses.


Is he really? Talking all that junk? He has lost three in a row. You lose this much and you are shit out the UFC to start over. He sucks balls! Chase money? UFC owns everything worth fighting in. Let Leben goto Bodog-they blow
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by IGOWFO
I agree. This is going to be a great main event. I look for Jackson to win in the third! Should have taken a poll on this KC! Maybe you can still change it.


It's going to be a blood bath or not Ice could KO him. I'm still undecided. How many times will I go against The Iceman. Guy is in his prime
Salkicksass
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
Is he really? Talking all that junk? He has lost three in a row. You lose this much and you are shit out the UFC to start over. He sucks balls! Chase money? UFC owns everything worth fighting in. Let Leben goto Bodog-they blow

I posted what he said under the UFC/Pride Info thread.. It's kinda funny..
W00tW00t
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION


The fight card is shit but I can't wait for the main event.


The best fights of the night are usually the non-main event fights. There have been some great main events, but for every one of those there has been two orlovski v Silvia 3's where i just want to gouge my eyes out and get my money back.

If the main fights ends as quickly as i'm thinking it is then it's gonna be a dissapointment.
bubba4pres
Iceman wins via KO in 2nd rd. Write it down.
irish_na
This is gonna be an awesome fight!
bk0
I'm giving the edge to Quinton, provided he has trained adequately and his nerves don't rattle him. He took everything Liddell could dish out in their first fight and gave it back just as good. Rampage beat Liddell at his own game the first time, something everyone else avoids. He has a fucking tough chin and crazy heart.

Karo Parisyan is a machine, that's going to be a great fight if you enjoy grappling. Some of the newer fans might get bored but he's going to put on a Judo/BJJ clinic.

It'll be interesting to see if Jardine can bring it again or if he'll fade off as a one fight wonder.

I expect this to be Leben's last fight in the UFC. Regardless of how hard he may or may not train, the guy comes off like a hack. He'll have to pull off a miracle here to both win and get the UFC to give him another contract.
Rogue Guy
Jackson gave Liddell a beat down back in 2003, but Liddell is much improved since then.

I'd give the edge to Liddell because he seems indestructible right now. But, anything can happen, Rampage fights like a bull and could definitely do some damage.

Leben=:clowny:
Salkicksass
Liddell is in a zone. It will be an upset in my book if Rampage wins. I see Chuck with a KO within the first two rounds..
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by W00tW00t
The best fights of the night are usually the non-main event fights. There have been some great main events, but for every one of those there has been two orlovski v Silvia 3's where i just want to gouge my eyes out and get my money back.

If the main fights ends as quickly as i'm thinking it is then it's gonna be a dissapointment.


I don't know about that I have not seen a good undercard in about 5PPV
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Rogue Guy
Jackson gave Liddell a beat down back in 2003, but Liddell is much improved since then.

I'd give the edge to Liddell because he seems indestructible right now. But, anything can happen, Rampage fights like a bull and could definitely do some damage.

Leben=:clowny:


Leben new back tat
Can't wait for him to be stomped again
MavTruck
Just hope to make it home in time to see the freaking hole card. Hate going all the way down to Newport Beach just to see the main event when i can get the results hear just as quick. and see the fight clips on the net the next day.
tears4fearsforv
Lidell hasn't improved that much, hes working the angles a little better thats about it. The advantage he really has is confidence. He's fought wrestlers whom are a horrible match up for him, the last decent striker he faced was rampage. Hes also 38 and has questionable cardio.

Rampage hasn't been the same since his 2 loss's against silva. Hes just recently getting back in the groove.

If it was the rampage of 3 years ago he would have a definite advantage. As is, its about 50/50

Rampage is getting 2 to 1 odds though :) .

Great betting odds.
KC CULTIVATION
Hey NT bust out that gif of the Iceman if you got any. I'm looking forward to The Jager predictions. Looking to make some money this week.

Nice Odds. Chuck is amazing and really going to be ready for this fight. Going to be fun. I guess Bubba is picking Rampage.
emt3508
Iceman is probably my favorite fighter in the UFC right now but I can't really explain why but I am leaning toward Jackson to win this one. I sure hope I am wrong. If Chuck does win this fight I think there will be know arguement that he is by far the best fighter in the UFC.
Salkicksass
Chuck Liddell’s longtime friend, training partner and trainer John Hackleman joined MMAWeekly’s SoundOff Radio show to talk about Chuck’s preparation and training camp for his upcoming fight with Quinton ‘Rampage’ Jackson.

Hackleman has been with Liddell in some facet for the past 16 years now, and he said of this training camp, “This is the best training camp we’ve ever had. The best sparring partners, the best conditioning…he [Chuck] didn’t get one single injury, it was perfect in every way.”

With this fight, Liddell will look to avenge the only blotch on an otherwise spotless fighting career. Jackson bested Liddell by TKO in Pride’s Final Conflict in 2003, but since his losing effort in Japan ‘The Iceman’ has been on a tear, winning each of his last seven fights and avenging the only other losses on his (20-3) record by defeating Randy Couture by KO twice (UFC’s 52, 57) and Jeremy Horn by TKO (UFC 54).

Liddell’s rematch fight with ‘Rampage’ has garnered a lot of media attention of late with UFC 71 commercials constantly replaying on TV and with well-known news organizations such as NBC Sports and ESPNEWS covering the event. With all of Liddell’s recent celebrity, one might think that it would be difficult for Chuck to simply concentrate on fighting and not be sidetracked by all of the other hype surrounding him.

After all, Chuck has recently starred in HBO’s hit series “Entourage” and was even given a cover page and article in ESPN The Magazine. And of course, this notoriety all comes in addition to Chuck’s in-cage accolades and the legions of adoring fans that accompany being the UFC’s light-heavyweight champion.

But Hackleman sees Chuck’s status differently. He knows that Chuck is the same guy that he’s always been, save maybe a few extra zeros to contend with each April 15th…

“He [Chuck] comes into my house and uses my restroom – which I can’t usually use for an hour after that – and then he goes out to the cage or the gym in my back yard and trains just as he always has… nothing is different. He acts the same around the celebs as he does around his sparring partners. He treats everyone the same,” Hackleman said.

One thing that will be different in this fight, though, will be that Chuck has done all of his training with John Hackleman at “The Pit” in San Luis Obispo. Before his 2003 meeting with ‘Rampage,’ Chuck decided to try his hand learning some other styles in different places from some different people. After his loss to Jackson, though, Chuck said, “Back to the Pit,” and that is where he has remained for all of his pre-fight preparation in the years since.

John said, “He wanted to try some new things, but it just didn’t work for him and he just liked the old-school “Pit” way…we’ve got a good little ‘Entourage’ here.”

On this Saturday night, Liddell and his throng of fans are on one mission, revenge. Put aside the hype, forget the television appearances and even forget the fact that the UFC’s light-heavyweight belt is on the line. Liddell’s career will always be blemished unless he finds a way to separate ‘Rampage’ from his faculties. And those who have watched Chuck fight know that this is precisely what he will endeavor to do.

The only question left for Hackleman is simply, “How will Chuck beat Rampage?”

John said, “I think it’s going to be a great fight. I’ve got nothing but respect for Rampage…he’s a great fighter and a great guy. I love that guy and I think he’s a real asset to the sport. But I think it’s just going to be that Chuck is a little bit stronger, a little bit faster, a little more dynamic and a little more on his game right now…with the combination of things I think Chuck is going to be the victor. I don’t predict a knockout, I don’t predict a round...I just think that Chuck’s going to beat Rampage.”

Regardless of the victor on Saturday night, though, this fight is one for the fans. Neither of these two men wants to win or lose by decision and that is going to make for an energetic, entertaining fight. Be sure to tune in to see if the ‘Iceman’ can avenge his final loss or if ‘Rampage’ will take Chuck’s belt and go up on him 2-0. Only time will tell the outcome…and that time comes in Las Vegas on this Saturday night.
cajun_satan
That tattoo isn't going to help him in the octagon. He is lacking in training, raw talent, or both. If he doesn't win saturday then he might not get another chance.
Salkicksass
Quote: Originally posted by cajun_satan
That tattoo isn't going to help him in the octagon. He is lacking in training, raw talent, or both. If he doesn't win saturday then he might not get another chance.
Who are you talking about?
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by emt3508
Iceman is probably my favorite fighter in the UFC right now but I can't really explain why but I am leaning toward Jackson to win this one. I sure hope I am wrong. If Chuck does win this fight I think there will be know arguement that he is by far the best fighter in the UFC.


It's complex as hell-I tend to think Chuck is going to get revenge and Rampage has had one fight in the oct and did not look amazing or anything. I guess I need to put my money on Chuck. Got a Big Weekend Coming Up
Salkicksass
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
It's complex as hell-I tend to think Chuck is going to get revenge and Rampage has had one fight in the oct and did not look amazing or anything. I guess I need to put my money on Chuck. Got a Big Weekend Coming Up

Watching Countdown to UFC 71 last night on Spike has me wondering about the outcome. Couture picks Rampage and with all the upsets this year i'm kinda nervous for Chuck. I just have to rely on how Chuck has fought the last seven fights. All I know is it will be a great fight.

From what i've seen so far not to many people know about the fighters on the undercard. There will be some great fights and hopefully if the fighters fight up to their potential then the fans will walk away happy with another great UFC show..
KC CULTIVATION
Just watched All Access with Rampage up in Big Bear. This guy is entertainment personified. Rampaged Kick Ass In K1? They are talking about his sick submissions....News to me. Ready to go for the dog after watching this.
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Salkicksass
Who are you talking about?


Leben
kaylot
Does anyone know what approximate time the Liddell-Jackson fight will take place? I'm trying to time it, as I have to go to a graduation ceremony -- maybe 8:30 p.m. Pacific/ 11:30 p.m. Eastern???
bk0
Usually the main event happens somewhere around 11:30/11:45PM eastern, but it's difficult to predict. If all the undercard fights run long or short it could be happening at 12:15 or 11:00.
W00tW00t
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
I don't know about that I have not seen a good undercard in about 5PPV


Really? I'm terrible with names of some of these guys but i can clearly remember a fight in 70 where the 2 155ers fought a incredible match that went the distance... 2 spanish guys.
grim
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
Just watched All Access with Rampage up in Big Bear. This guy is entertainment personified. Rampaged Kick Ass In K1? They are talking about his sick submissions....News to me. Ready to go for the dog after watching this.
did u watch the show when rampage & joe rogan were eating popeyes on his tailgate and they ran into killah priest from wu-tang coming out of a check cashing store..it was funny
Gator_Russ
Quote: Originally posted by W00tW00t
Really? I'm terrible with names of some of these guys but i can clearly remember a fight in 70 where the 2 155ers fought a incredible match that went the distance... 2 spanish guys.



Package guy and his homie. I saw that, the guy in white's package was so blatant that I had to look away most of the fight.

It was alright, Possibly even good. Incredible? Not so much.

I'm taking Rampage to usher in a new era in UFC. Then my boy Keith Jardine to upset him later on down the road.

Don't fuck with the Dean of Mean! :D
ripstoke
fuck it i threw money on jackson at +180 for shits and giggles, won't be suprised if he wins or losses. also took kalib to beat leben for S+G but could happn depending on which kalib shows up. like IS to beat terry martin.
W00tW00t
Quote: Originally posted by Gator_Russ
Package guy and his homie. I saw that, the guy in white's package was so blatant that I had to look away most of the fight.

It was alright, Possibly even good. Incredible? Not so much.


I was more entertained by that than anything else on the card, the fight not so much the guy's package.
KC CULTIVATION
Looks like ESPN finally woke up - The Got a MMA section With Sheardog
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma...ht&lid=tab2pos1

got some decent stuff up on the fight this weekend
Salkicksass
ESPNNews will be showing the weigh-in live at 7pm ET..
ripstoke
QJ by KO 3rd rd
webman
Rumor has it that the "ICE MAN's" hand is F'ed up, will he still be fighting by the end of the night...Rampage in the 2nd round, gonna knock the balls outta the ICEMAN...YES
dson
shogun is going to be announced tonight

to either fight the winner, or at 72

another strong rumor is a hendo announcement, or both him and shogun
KC CULTIVATION
Just Arrived At My Friends Hose We Are All Jacked For The Fight
Mass Amount Of Weed - Check!
Crown-CHECK!
Grub-CHECK!
PPV Ordered -CHECK!

It's Time To Roll! Get Faded
Heatherwiz
We cant find a bar with it playing here at the beach :( much sadness....
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Heatherwiz
We cant find a bar with it playing here at the beach :( much sadness....


Here are a list of places you can find the fight
:D
http://ufcmania.com/2007/05/17/ufc-...-the-ppv-event/
Heatherwiz
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
Here are a list of places you can find the fight
:D
http://ufcmania.com/2007/05/17/ufc-...-the-ppv-event/


yeah already been there... looks like we are sol
Salkicksass
PPV Ordered and mini octagon set.. Time to make some friends tap before the action starts in Vegas.. I can't wait..

Liddell by KO 2nd Rd.
Burkman by Ref Stoppage 3rd Rd.
Jardine by decision
Starnes by submission
Irvin by KO 1st. Rd.

Other fights probably won't be shown.. Very good card tonight..
VikingDanForman
I just hope Leben gets is ASS kicked
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Heatherwiz
yeah already been there... looks like we are sol


I will chip in 10 bucks-what is your paypal info? I'm cool like that
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Salkicksass
PPV Ordered and mini octagon set.. Time to make some friends tap before the action starts in Vegas.. I can't wait..

Liddell by KO 2nd Rd.
Burkman by Ref Stoppage 3rd Rd.
Jardine by decision
Starnes by submission
Irvin by KO 1st. Rd.

Other fights probably won't be shown.. Very good card tonight..


What about that Ultimate fighter -Brawl-classic. Most technical street brawl ever-lol

drinking like a fish-going down smooth :cool:
oug13
That was a real good story just now on ESPN....Dana made the UFC look good
Swish
God damn, is anyone gonna be in the thread tonight or everyone go and get some real friends? :D
oug13
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
God damn, is anyone gonna be in the thread tonight or everyone go and get some real friends? :D


I'll be lurking & posting some..... ;)
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
God damn, is anyone gonna be in the thread tonight or everyone go and get some real friends? :D


I drove two hours to hang a t a frinds house-I'm hardcore
I will be popping in-but I'm high
slitlobes
anyone have any promo codes for UFC ondemand.

im buying the fight live online.
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
I drove two hours to hang a t a frinds house-I'm hardcore
I will be popping in-but I'm high


Summer means I watch UFC alone. Fucking races started up and every damn saturday I dont even waste time trying to find my boys until after 11. So fuck paying 40 bucks to watch alone. :D
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
Summer means I watch UFC alone. Fucking races started up and every damn saturday I dont even waste time trying to find my boys until after 11. So fuck paying 40 bucks to watch alone. :D


yea-it's brutal. I say fuck it and buy solo but it's sure nice to split it. You can find live feeds here and gite free shit online. Check the sports section here they will have shit up i'm shure. some people one here are cool enough to hook ya up. sometime all ya need is winamp
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by oug13
I'll be lurking & posting some..... ;)


Sup OUG Nizzle
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
yea-it's brutal. I say fuck it and buy solo but it's sure nice to split it. You can find live feeds here and gite free shit online. Check the sports section here they will have shit up i'm shure. some people one here are cool enough to hook ya up. sometime all ya need is winamp


Damn right man, got my stream lined up. :D
Swish
START THE FUCKER, this elevator music is pissing me off.
Jaeger
Quote: Originally posted by KC CULTIVATION
Hey NT bust out that gif of the Iceman if you got any. I'm looking forward to The Jager predictions. Looking to make some money this week.

Nice Odds. Chuck is amazing and really going to be ready for this fight. Going to be fun. I guess Bubba is picking Rampage.


Hey ya, KC. been wicked busy, and I'm acutally out of town for the weekend.

No in depth predictions this time around.

cept I'll take Karo.

and as always I'll bet on black ( I'm not going to say it and jinx the guy) he's on my list of 5 that can get it done.

due to a shit connection I won't be around much tonight. But I'll be watching
greddy10
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
Hey ya, KC. been wicked busy, and I'm acutally out of town for the weekend.

No in depth predictions this time around.

cept I'll take Karo.

and as always See Sig. ( I'm not going to say it and jinx the guy) he's on my list of 5 that can get it done.

due to a shit connection I won't be around much tonight. But I'll be watching
How' have you been?
Jaeger
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
How' have you been?
Little busy, but I've got the weekend to take care of some personal stuff. So I"m in a nice hotel with a shitty net connection up here just outside detroit.
Swish
And were up, about god damn time.
greddy10
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
And were up, about god damn time.
:rock:
greddy10
Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch:
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch:


Man I noticed that too. Iceman up there looks a little flabby with a beer belly. Rampage was fucking ripped though.
oug13
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch:

That's why Hogan tan's......but yes......

Wish the countdown....was live with a intro......
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
Little busy, but I've got the weekend to take care of some personal stuff. So I"m in a nice hotel with a shitty net connection up here just outside detroit.


Cool-takce care
Going to be a brawl
Taking Rampage
And Karo
VikingDanForman
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
Is it me, or do black guy's look a hell of alot more muscular then white guys? :scratch:
its you ya homo
KC CULTIVATION
Quote: Originally posted by oug13
That's why Hogan tan's......but yes......

Wish the countdown....was live with a intro......


I hear ya to replay this shit over and over is retarded. Goto some young guys live at ringside. Show some weigh ins-espn clips-treat is like wrestling hype. I want huge intro thumping music
oug13
anyone else's not coming in?
Swish
everyones favorite nedsmark shows up from time to time, he might show up. lol
oug13
just came on! :dancing:
oug13
Here we go!
jackelneck
my iggy always works....:D

:roach:
Swish
I use to be a big time leban fan, he seems like such a bitch now days though.
jackelneck
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
everyones favorite nedsmark shows up from time to time, he might show up. lol


this time, ask for him to put a finger in his ass for a week...:D

again
oug13
Quote: Originally posted by jackelneck
my iggy always works....:D

:roach:
good to cya! :roach:

agree, he's a bitch
jackelneck
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
I use to be a big time leban fan, he seems like such a bitch now days though.



he was at his best when he was pissed on....:D
Swish
Quote: Originally posted by jackelneck
this time, ask for him to put a finger in his ass for a week...:D

again


hahaa, not sure if he will bet with me anymore.
jackelneck
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
hahaa, not sure if he will bet with me anymore.


you may have left a bitter taste in his mouth....:D
Swish
oh yum, hot bitches.
oug13
nice end to the round!
Swish
Nice first fight so far.
oug13
Big shot!....nice take down!
Swish
leben gassed already.
Swish
not as gassed as I thought though. lol
oug13
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
leben gassed already.
they both are
jackelneck
this match is heating up....:D
Swish
hah fuckin good fight. Leben lost another one I would say.
oug13
Starnes
Magnum PI
Kalib is such a disappointing fighter. He starts out strong, but usually gasses and puts out a half ass effort.
Magnum PI
Starnes looked shocked at the win.
Swish
So much for being a fan favorite. He just got shit on big time. hahahah
oug13
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
So much for being a fan favorite. He just got shit on big time. hahahah
ya just an asshole
jackelneck
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
So much for being a fan favorite. He just got shit on big time. hahahah


his hair stylist did that last match..:D

and, yes, yes he did...
Swish
I dont see jardine losing, he is just a fucking beast.
oug13
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
I dont see jardine losing, he is just a fucking beast.
agreed
Swish
dude needs some better entrance music though. lol
jackelneck
Quote: Originally posted by Swish
I dont see jardine losing, he is just a fucking beast.


i agree with that...:cool:
Swish
Holy fuck is all I can say.
Swish
Best fight I have seen in a long long time.
oug13
He beat the FUCK out of HIM WOW WOW!!!!!!!!!

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