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| Horndog |
It's nothin' but a buncha liberal chicken-littles runnin' around saying the sky's falling. There's been environmentalist wack-jobs forever. They've all united behind the global warming myth because it's scary and there's no data on the subject, so it's hard to disprove.
There's no proof in favor either. MOST scientists agree that there's global warming and that's it's mankind's fault? Says who? I hear that line from a lot of people, but I'm not gonna believe it just because Al Gore says it's true. Give me names and hard data. The environmentalists can't because there isn't any. They all quote this mysterious "they"... They say this... They say that...
A couple/few thousand years ago, most of North America was buried underneath glaciers. Somehow all of that melted even without air conditioning and automobiles to blame. IF there's any global warming going on, it's got nothing to do with us. It's the trend that's been happening on the planet for thousands of years, LONG before the invention of internal combustion.
The truth is, humanity is nothing but dust riding along on this big rock in space. We have NO effect on anything on this planet long-term. The greatest works of man are invisible from space. How significant can we really be? (Dont' give me that Great Wall bullshit, that's a myth. Even if it's long enough, it's nowhere NEAR thick enough to be visible. Just a popular urban legend)
Now you know the TRUTH. |
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| Kengro |
The ice core data says that CO" lags behing temperature wits approx 800 years, Gore did not mention that. Sun spots and the earths temperature are much closer linked together than CO2 and the earths temperature... I'm not so shure UN are honest with us, it looks like someone is trying to kill the African dream, wich is to develop. The 3rd world is losing more on this global warming than the 1st world. More and more sieenticst are saying global warming might be natrual. The UN board does NOT have the best pepole, and many in the UN board are NOT scientists...
The sciense behing global warming looks fast and badly done, but time will tell...
If you want to know more see the documentary: The Great Global Warming Swindle |
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| Salkicksass |
Quote: Originally posted by Horndog
Now you know the TRUTH. |
And who the fuck are you? |
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| PriceIsRight |
| So, how many threads will you start today, of which you know nothing about? |
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| salafibrigades |
| The purpose of the hype is to introduce a global carbon tax. Don't buy into it and don't support politicians or corporations that push it. |
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| PriceIsRight |
| There is no hype, it's real. We can 'can' this thread. |
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| Rodehi |
how bout that big fuckin hole in the ozone layer ?
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by Rodehi
how bout that big fuckin hole in the ozone layer ?
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You heard the expert, it's not real
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| Slut Monkey |
Quote: Originally posted by salafibrigades
The purpose of the hype is to introduce a global carbon tax. Don't buy into it and don't support politicians or corporations that push it. |
OH MY GOD! You mean it's not true? HOLY FUCK! I Supose now your going to tell me that Santa and that fuckin little fuzzy guy, Peter FUCKIN Cottontail are real now?
You tit. I live in atlantic Canada and 20 fuckin years ago it was unheard of for anyone up here to own an A/C unit. Now the fucking store's can't keep up with demand. Go smoke some of your fuckin tai stick......... Hold on a minute....Can I get some of that off ya before ya fuck off? love good tai stick bud.......... :rolleyes: |
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| teeroy |
| I hate to be the devil's advocate, but how did the glaciers melt? there has been more than one ice age, how did those glaciers melt? I have no doubt we are aggrivating a natural occurance, but we did not cause the earth to warm up. it has been doing it for millions of years before we got here, and will continue for millions of years after we are gone, or at least until our sun goes supernova, and all the planets will be sucked in and crispied before it gets dark. use it up while it's here people, and fuckin' enjoy it......:tu: |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
I hate to be the devil's advocate, but how did the glaciers melt? there has been more than one ice age, how did those glaciers melt? |
The glaciers were put there during the ice age, the last one ending about 10,000 years ago. They have been receeding ever since. I think the scientists figure there have been 4 major ice ages in the earths history. The ice age is beleived to have happened because of a big meteorite hitting the earth, causing dust, blocking the sun, and cooling things down.
It is hard to find non biased information on the topic of global warming. The oil and gas companies spend a lot of money to try and discredit what scientists are finding, and a lot of people get brainwashed to beleive that it is just a big load of crap that the treehuggers are supporting.
I beleive that global warming is just one of the effects of mans impact on earth, and to ignore it and call the scientists who are studying 'whack jobs' is one of the dumbest things a person can do. Money is the root of all evil. |
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| Mytee Mouse |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
The glaciers were put there during the ice age, the last one ending about 10,000 years ago. They have been receeding ever since. I think the scientists figure there have been 4 major ice ages in the earths history. The ice age is beleived to have happened because of a big meteorite hitting the earth, causing dust, blocking the sun, and cooling things down.
It is hard to find non biased information on the topic of global warming. The oil and gas companies spend a lot of money to try and discredit what scientists are finding, and a lot of people get brainwashed to beleive that it is just a big load of crap that the treehuggers are supporting.
I beleive that global warming is just one of the effects of mans impact on earth, and to ignore it and call the scientists who are studying 'whack jobs' is one of the dumbest things a person can do. Money is the root of all evil. |
Nicely put! |
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| Rodehi |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
I hate to be the devil's advocate, but how did the glaciers melt? there has been more than one ice age, how did those glaciers melt? I have no doubt we are aggrivating a natural occurance, but we did not cause the earth to warm up. it has been doing it for millions of years before we got here, and will continue for millions of years after we are gone, or at least until our sun goes supernova, and all the planets will be sucked in and crispied before it gets dark. use it up while it's here people, and fuckin' enjoy it......:tu: |
I agree its naturally warming but I do think we are accelerating it..
...either way were fucked :( |
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| teeroy |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
The glaciers were put there during the ice age, the last one ending about 10,000 years ago. They have been receeding ever since. I think the scientists figure there have been 4 major ice ages in the earths history. The ice age is beleived to have happened because of a big meteorite hitting the earth, causing dust, blocking the sun, and cooling things down.
It is hard to find non biased information on the topic of global warming. The oil and gas companies spend a lot of money to try and discredit what scientists are finding, and a lot of people get brainwashed to beleive that it is just a big load of crap that the treehuggers are supporting.
I beleive that global warming is just one of the effects of mans impact on earth, and to ignore it and call the scientists who are studying 'whack jobs' is one of the dumbest things a person can do. Money is the root of all evil. |
you partially make my point tho, how hot was it before the rocks hit, or the supervolcano spit ash into the sky, also causing a global blackout and causing temps to plummet? I know what they say may have caused the ice ages, but they melted off too. what was the duration of those ice ages? were the melting periods of the glaciers shorter from event to event? no one can answer that stuff.....did the reversal of the magnetic poles have anything to do with how fast the earth warmed? so much to be answered, and absolutely no one knows the answers. but I ain't gonna get worked up over it, there's absolutely fuck all that I'm gonna do that will change anything. let it ride..... |
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| Tom from T.O. |
| Fuck off asshole, go apologise for the billion dolalr oil industry elsewhere, you fucking Rush Limbaugh ditto head. |
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| teeroy |
Quote: Originally posted by Tom from T.O.
Fuck off asshole, go apologise for the billion dolalr oil industry elsewhere, you fucking Rush Limbaugh ditto head. |
touchy subject Tom? |
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| Mr Zaremba |
No science is allowed in a Bubba forum unless sanctioned by Bknot or Jaeger....go watch the 1st 20 years of Mr Wizard....write your questions down and will spend every Sunday before Church explaining this "Science" stuff in words you can understand
Bring your Mammy n your Pappy too! |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
you partially make my point tho, how hot was it before the rocks hit, or the supervolcano spit ash into the sky, also causing a global blackout and causing temps to plummet? I know what they say may have caused the ice ages, but they melted off too. what was the duration of those ice ages? were the melting periods of the glaciers shorter from event to event? no one can answer that stuff.....did the reversal of the magnetic poles have anything to do with how fast the earth warmed? so much to be answered, and absolutely no one knows the answers. but I ain't gonna get worked up over it, there's absolutely fuck all that I'm gonna do that will change anything. let it ride..... |
Another thing you right wingers who make money from oil and gas always seem to do, is assume that anyone who beleives we should pay attention to global warming must have all of the answers in their pocket and be up to date on all of the science :D That is a shoot.
It is o.k to make money with oil and gas, and beleive we are going to destroy the earth. I've learned to cope with it. Hopefully my tax dollars will go to studying it with real science, and to find real solutioins to real problems. I know my tax dollars are real....
This is one issue where feelings seems to outweigh the science of it.
Oh, and your wrong :D :D :D :D :D |
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| Kdrunkin1 |
| The oil and gas industry are capitalizing on supply and demand just like any other business. I would almost say like the "Global Warming" er "Climate Change" crowd. If you want the product, pay and if not peddle your ass all over town. I work in construction in the oil patch and make good coin doing so. I figure climate change has happened for about 4 billion years so 100 years of records means fuck all in my books. All the tree huggers can buy carbon credits and feel great about themselves but other than that what are they willing to do? Shut down world economies? As they say in geology "Strip mining eliminates forest fires". Get balanced opinions when forming yours but don't assume all scientists agree on "Global Warming" er "Climate Change". One other thing why is it now climate change not global warming? |
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| onewhip |
Quote: Originally posted by Kengro
The ice core data says that CO" lags behing temperature wits approx 800 years, Gore did not mention that. Sun spots and the earths temperature are much closer linked together than CO2 and the earths temperature... I'm not so shure UN are honest with us, it looks like someone is trying to kill the African dream, wich is to develop. The 3rd world is losing more on this global warming than the 1st world. More and more sieenticst are saying global warming might be natrual. The UN board does NOT have the best pepole, and many in the UN board are NOT scientists...
The sciense behing global warming looks fast and badly done, but time will tell...
If you want to know more see the documentary: The Great Global Warming Swindle |
:secret: Firefox has a built-in Spell Check. |
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| teeroy |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
Oh, and your wrong :D :D :D :D :D |
wrong about what bro? that there was multiple ice ages? or that nothing I do is gonna change what's going to happen? those are the only statements of belief that I've made. I agree we are contributing, but to say that if we stopped burning all hydrocarbons and everything will be a-ok is false.....the earth will still be warming, no? even if we were never here as in the previous ice ages, the earth would warm up and melt the glaciers, but at a slower rate I'm sure.
edit; I also take issue with the right wing deal. I have seen the arguments for both sides, and based my opinion upon that. common sense and probable logic...no movie hype, or promises of millions from oil companies. just a redneck Albertan's possibly flawed logic..... |
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| wedge404a |
| This might have been the dumbest post ever. I mean seriously you must be a moron to not feel and see how fucked up our weather has gotten over the last decade. Don't let brent see this post or he will kung fu your ass. |
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| BonswanaMiliken |
Earth is 5 billion years old. We have been able to accuratley record temps for the last 100 years or so. We really know nothing about the Planets long term weather patterns.
If there is a problem I think they are working on it. I see more and more hybrid cars on the road. If a democrat was president we would be kissing his ass for getting hybrid cars out there. I guess it's just how you spin the facts. |
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| rigmover2307 |
| if we have no impact on our global environment, then it must be a complete coincidence that in the days following 9-11 when all aircraft were grounded, the average global temperatures dropped 3 degrees. primarilly attributed to the decrease in heat reflecting cloud cover created by jet contrails. |
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| BonswanaMiliken |
Quote: Originally posted by rigmover2307
if we have no impact on our global environment, then it must be a complete coincidence that in the days following 9-11 when all aircraft were grounded, the average global temperatures dropped 3 degrees. primarilly attributed to the decrease in heat reflecting cloud cover created by jet contrails. |
you believe that ? |
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| tbone420 |
Quote: Originally posted by BonswanaMiliken
Earth is 5 billion years old. We have been able to accuratley record temps for the last 100 years or so. We really know nothing about the Planets long term weather patterns.
If there is a problem I think they are working on it. I see more and more hybrid cars on the road. If a democrat was president we would be kissing his ass for getting hybrid cars out there. I guess it's just how you spin the facts. |
really? Ice core samples from thousands and thousands of years ago don't really tell us anything about past patterns do they?
Fucking idiots :rolleyes: |
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| rigmover2307 |
Quote: Originally posted by BonswanaMiliken
you believe that ? |
um , which part? the sarcasam, or the facts? |
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| BonswanaMiliken |
Quote: Originally posted by tbone420
really? Ice core samples from thousands and thousands of years ago don't really tell us anything about past patterns do they?
Fucking idiots :rolleyes: |
And they found out what, it gets hot then cold then hot then cold. All with no gasoline being burned. Imagine that. |
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| tbone420 |
Quote: Originally posted by BonswanaMiliken
And they found out what, it gets hot then cold then hot then cold. All with no gasoline being burned. Imagine that. |
Never this hot. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
wrong about what bro? that there was multiple ice ages? or that nothing I do is gonna change what's going to happen? those are the only statements of belief that I've made. I agree we are contributing, but to say that if we stopped burning all hydrocarbons and everything will be a-ok is false.....the earth will still be warming, no? even if we were never here as in the previous ice ages, the earth would warm up and melt the glaciers, but at a slower rate I'm sure.
edit; I also take issue with the right wing deal. I have seen the arguments for both sides, and based my opinion upon that. common sense and probable logic...no movie hype, or promises of millions from oil companies. just a redneck Albertan's possibly flawed logic..... |
I made the double smileys about the 'your wrong' thing so you would know I was trying to make a joke about the passion people take on this issue. |
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| teeroy |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
I made the double smileys about the 'your wrong' thing so you would know I was trying to make a joke about the passion people take on this issue. |
ah fuck. sorry bro.... :D :D :D :D
does that mean I'm not sorry? :scratch:
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
does that mean I'm not sorry? :scratch:
:D |
Well, atleast you want to ask questions and become informed, not like so many other people who are just anti-global warming for no good reason.
I'm not sure SFN is the best place to get informed about it though :D :D :D
Or does that mean it is :scratch:
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| Kengro |
Quote: Originally posted by tbone420
Never this hot. |
It's been alot hotter than this |
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| Roundhead |
Quote: Originally posted by Slut Monkey
OH MY GOD! You mean it's not true? HOLY FUCK! I Supose now your going to tell me that Santa and that fuckin little fuzzy guy, Peter FUCKIN Cottontail are real now?
You tit. I live in atlantic Canada and 20 fuckin years ago it was unheard of for anyone up here to own an A/C unit. Now the fucking store's can't keep up with demand. Go smoke some of your fuckin tai stick......... Hold on a minute....Can I get some of that off ya before ya fuck off? love good tai stick bud.......... :rolleyes: |
True dat.. True dat |
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| Jedi Beavis |
Quote: Originally posted by Horndog
It's nothin' but a buncha liberal chicken-littles runnin' around saying the sky's falling. There's been environmentalist wack-jobs forever. They've all united behind the global warming myth because it's scary and there's no data on the subject, so it's hard to disprove.
There's no proof in favor either. MOST scientists agree that there's global warming and that's it's mankind's fault? Says who? I hear that line from a lot of people, but I'm not gonna believe it just because Al Gore says it's true. Give me names and hard data. The environmentalists can't because there isn't any. They all quote this mysterious "they"... They say this... They say that...
A couple/few thousand years ago, most of North America was buried underneath glaciers. Somehow all of that melted even without air conditioning and automobiles to blame. IF there's any global warming going on, it's got nothing to do with us. It's the trend that's been happening on the planet for thousands of years, LONG before the invention of internal combustion.
The truth is, humanity is nothing but dust riding along on this big rock in space. We have NO effect on anything on this planet long-term. The greatest works of man are invisible from space. How significant can we really be? (Dont' give me that Great Wall bullshit, that's a myth. Even if it's long enough, it's nowhere NEAR thick enough to be visible. Just a popular urban legend)
Now you know the TRUTH. |
I remember growing up in the 70s/80s they were all reporting "global cooling!" We were heading for a new ice age, then all of a sudden we're burning up? WTF? |
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| W00tW00t |
Quote: Originally posted by Horndog
The truth is, humanity is nothing but dust riding along on this big rock in space. We have NO effect on anything on this planet long-term. The greatest works of man are invisible from space. How significant can we really be? (Dont' give me that Great Wall bullshit, that's a myth. Even if it's long enough, it's nowhere NEAR thick enough to be visible. Just a popular urban legend)
Now you know the TRUTH. |
Actually, from haven spoken to astronauts, as long as the object is long enough and its color is a different color from the surrounding soil it can be seen. The only subject really up to debate is what you consider space. From low shuttle orbit many things can be seen from the moon, nothing can be seen.... except Artie he can be seen from as far away as mars. |
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| Slut Monkey |
Quote: Originally posted by Jedi Beavis
I remember growing up in the 70s/80s they were all reporting "global cooling!" We were heading for a new ice age, then all of a sudden we're burning up? WTF? |
That was right around the time purple T & microdot showed up. |
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| PriceIsRight |
| I figured this thread would die, given the huge amount of "science experts" here who obviously skipped science class to smoke up. |
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| Salkicksass |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I figured this thread would die, given the huge amount of "science experts" here who obviously skipped science class to smoke up. |
They make millions on their research and sit around the table drinking scotch and talking about all the Nobel Peace awards they have won over the years. |
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| Slut Monkey |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I figured this thread would die, given the huge amount of "science experts" here who obviously skipped science class to smoke up. |
Guilty & guilty. This new information explain's a lot. The science of Mary Jane 101. |
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| teeroy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
I figured this thread would die, given the huge amount of "science experts" here who obviously skipped science class to smoke up. |
SCIENCE!! |
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| PriceIsRight |
Quote: Originally posted by teeroy
SCIENCE!! |
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| teeroy |
Quote: Originally posted by PriceIsRight
:lol: |
I used to get high and then go to science class....it was first period after lunch.....:tu: |
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| Major Player |
| I do believe global warming is going on. However I don't support the agenda of enviromental wacko treehugging hippies either. As a farmer on the plains of Nebraska, I've been seeing more weather extremes along with some very bad drought with record high temps. I don't want to be told what to do as far as what chemicals I can use on my crops such as the recent ban of Roundup ready alfalfa, (which is also a biotech issue), or how to maintain my cattle. It is going to be hard to enforce enviromentally sound practices in third world countries that are just trying to get by. They are probably bigger perpetraters to global warming than we are, and if we don't make them follow the rules we won't be competive globally economically. I doubt if we can reverse the damage, so the best thing to do is try to prepare for global warming in a worst case scenario. |
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| donnyd75 |
| My grandkids will just have to learn to toughen up. In the meantime, anyone want some free aerosol cans? |
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| AngelsJester |
Quote: Originally posted by Rodehi
how bout that big fuckin hole in the ozone layer ?
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They take there readings from the poles were there is a lack of sun light compared to everywere else.this is the reason there was a hole to begin with, the sun light replenshes the ozone layer,so now there is going to be an always will be a hole over the poles.
I do believe all the cfc's and other things are causing that hole to grow to bigger sizes then normally it would.
Global warming is occuring but at a rate none of us on the planet right now will ever deal with its full effects. |
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| Rodehi |
Quote: Originally posted by AngelsJester
They take there readings from the poles were there is a lack of sun light compared to everywere else.this is the reason there was a hole to begin with, the sun light replenshes the ozone layer,so now there is going to be an always will be a hole over the poles.
I do believe all the cfc's and other things are causing that hole to grow to bigger sizes then normally it would.
Global warming is occuring but at a rate none of us on the planet right now will ever deal with its full effects. |
....lack of sunlight in the winter yes,but in the summer it is daylight 24/7,not to argue your point, .....just sayin :D |
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| Rodehi |
....this does argue your point
Since ozone is produced by solar UV radiation (the sun), one might expect to find the highest ozone levels over the tropics and the lowest over polar regions. The same argument would lead one to expect the highest ozone levels in the summer and the lowest in the winter. The observed behavior is very different: most of the ozone is found in the mid-to-high latitudes of the northern and southern hemispheres, and the highest levels are found in the spring, not summer, and the lowest in the autumn, not winter. During winter, the ozone layer actually increases in depth. This due to the prevailing stratospheric wind patterns. While most of the ozone is indeed created over the tropics, the stratospheric circulation then transports it poleward and downward to the lower stratosphere of the high latitudes.....
....take a closer look at the graph,the greens and yellows are the thickest with ozone...the blues near the equator are thinner... |
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| tomgunns |
OK with your reasoning we have nothing to fear.....
sooooo
um tons of trash just sitting upon acres and acres of land seeping into the Earth not a problem...
Billions of people driving fossil fuel vehicles to and fro not a problem
Consuming vast quantities of natural resources essentially raping the Earth of its own device
YOU ARE A MORON |
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