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| Crazytree |
...think Bush is doing a good job.
coincidence?
Raw DOGMA
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth
A light bulb appears over my head.
I finally get it.
For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.
For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.
If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?
Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”.
Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.
"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?
And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is.
Then it hit me.
There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative.
Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.
Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?
What a dangerous misstep.
Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.
Those things go hand in hand.
He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him.
So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell. |
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| rod_jammer |
| It's scary to read that ~40% of Americans still think that Saddam was responsible for 09/11, that we found WMD's in Iraq, and believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible (creationism, Earth 6000yrs old) |
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| bigcat07 |
| americans are the absolute dumbest group. they don't read or travel at all. the less you know the more you believe. as a result they fear everyone and everything. that's why they are so easily commanded, so docile towards the government, and so belligerent towards the rest of the world. no surprise they know no science. they have no knowledge of any other discipline either. they simply consume, waste, and seek out as much entertainment as they can afford. |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by bigcat07
americans are the absolute dumbest group. they don't read or travel at all. the less you know the more you believe. as a result they fear everyone and everything. that's why they are so easily commanded, so docile towards the government, and so belligerent towards the rest of the world. no surprise they know no science. they have no knowledge of any other discipline either. they simply consume, waste, and seek out as much entertainment as they can afford. |
I completely agree. In a recent conversation with my brother (whom is also my best friend) I suggested that since he is going into his 2nd year of college, he should think about studying abroad for a semester his junior year. I explained to him how it is really more of a semester-long party, depending on the program that you choose. His response was to tell me that he had no interest in doing that and there was nothing worth seeing outside of the US. Keeping in mind that this is someone that has never even left Ohio for more than a day. Well, unfortunately it ended up with us yelling at each other and his misconceptions about the way the world works, his undefined hate for communists and general disdain for other peoples of the world.
I understand he's young, but as much as I love him I hope that he is not representative of his generation in the way that he thinks about the world. |
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| fanbelt49 |
| Americans are the dumbest group compared to whom? People are stupid worldwide. Average world IQ is 100. Half the human race is borderline retarded. Ignorance and stupidity knows no borders. |
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| nikkyo |
Man's basic choice: to think or not to think. You can exercise rational faulty or not.
" Man can focus his mind to a full, active purposefully directed awareness of reality - or he can unfocus it and let himself drift in a semiconscious daze, merely reacting to any chance stimulus of the immediate moment, at the mercy of his undirected sensory-perceptual mechanism and of any random, associational connection it might happen to make"
You don’t need to think. Just lie back on the cushion. the cushion may be suffocating your intelligence and your critical faculties, but it’s very comfortable. |
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| artiel |
Quote: Originally posted by fanbelt49
Americans are the dumbest group compared to whom? People are stupid worldwide. Average world IQ is 100. Half the human race is borderline retarded. Ignorance and stupidity knows no borders. |
Americans are the worst of the "civilized" countries in knowledge of world affairs. I remember when I was taking PSEO classes, I took some kind of world politics class or something and found out about this study that had been done. Citizens were polled from all the UN countries and asked 5 basic questions about world events/politics/people and Americans averaged answering 0 out 5 correct.... Only country to do so. |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by fanbelt49
Americans are the dumbest group compared to whom? People are stupid worldwide. Average world IQ is 100. Half the human race is borderline retarded. Ignorance and stupidity knows no borders. |
is the comparison US vs. the world?
or US vs. other highly developed countries? |
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| rod_jammer |
| I would love to know how many Republican Senators & Representatives even have a passport. |
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| SDVT-2 |
Quote: Originally posted by Crazytree
...think Bush is doing a good job.
coincidence?
Raw DOGMA
1 in 5 Americans believe Sun revolves around the Earth
A light bulb appears over my head.
I finally get it.
For the democratic process to run properly it necessitates the voter to have some knowledge of what he is voting on.
For it to work properly it requires voters to cast their votes based on an educated opinion.
If you are going to vote on something like stem cell research you should at least know what it is, correct?
Sadly, that isn’t how many American vote, as is obvious when during an election year people are talking about whether or not someone “looks presidential” and whether the person looks “likeable”.
Well the question is, how can Americans vote on such things as global warming, stem cell research, cloning and what have you when basic scientific fundamental concepts fly right over our heads.
"American adults in general do not understand what molecules are (other than that they are really small). Fewer than a third can identify DNA as a key to heredity. Only about 10 percent know what radiation is. One adult American in five thinks the Sun revolves around the Earth, an idea science had abandoned by the 17th century." Said Jon D. Miller, a political scientists who directs the Center for Biomedical Communications at the Northwestern University Medical School in Chicago, he regularly surveys Americans for his clients which include the National Science Foundation on the public’s knowledge and attitudes towards science in general.
I mean, lets be honest, if you don’t know what a fucking cell is how can you understand what stem cell research is enough to vote on it?
And according to this guy most Americans don’t know what a cell is.
Then it hit me.
There is a reason why people are fighting so hard to get creationism taught in the public schools along side evolution as a scientific alternative.
Like I said, it hit me. And it hit me hard.
Americans, on top of not having a clue what a cell is or what radiation is or even that the Earth revolves around the Sun are letting religious leaders dictate to them what to vote on issues that would take knowledge of basic scientific fundamentals, because I am assuming that they are assuming that since these religious leaders are supposedly moral and ethical “authorities” they should be qualified to figure out where we stand on these scientific issues, but who is to say that they even know these basic scientific concepts?
What a dangerous misstep.
Fact: Polls show that in general, people who adhere to fundamentalist views are not well educated.
Those things go hand in hand.
He says that every time he goes on the radio to talk about his findings he gets people from the listening area sending him cards in the mail saying that they will pray for him.
So I take it even though they don’t understand what he is talking about when he refers to “DNA” they know that people that use big words like that are most likely going to hell. |
Sounds to me like a product of shitty Government Schools taught by shitty tenured teachers that can not be fired because of their teachers union.
The data for the 32 European countries were collected by the European Commission using primarily personal interviews. The Japan data were collected in 2001 by personal interview. The U.S. data were collected by Miller using Knowledge Networks, an online national sample of households selected on a probability basis. All of the interview and online data in the 34 countries were weighted to reflect actual population distributions and are comparable across countries. :rolleyes: |
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| rod_jammer |
Quote: Originally posted by SDVT-2
Sounds to me like a product of shitty Government Schools taught by shitty tenured teachers that can not be fired because of their teachers union.
The data for the 32 European countries were collected by the European Commission using primarily personal interviews. The Japan data were collected in 2001 by personal interview. The U.S. data were collected by Miller using Knowledge Networks, an online national sample of households selected on a probability basis. All of the interview and online data in the 34 countries were weighted to reflect actual population distributions and are comparable across countries. :rolleyes: |
Yes, not all of us can gain the educational gifts of Ms. Howard Stern and her home-schooling... |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by artiel
I completely agree. In a recent conversation with my brother (whom is also my best friend) I suggested that since he is going into his 2nd year of college, he should think about studying abroad for a semester his junior year. I explained to him how it is really more of a semester-long party, depending on the program that you choose. His response was to tell me that he had no interest in doing that and there was nothing worth seeing outside of the US. Keeping in mind that this is someone that has never even left Ohio for more than a day. Well, unfortunately it ended up with us yelling at each other and his misconceptions about the way the world works, his undefined hate for communists and general disdain for other peoples of the world.
I understand he's young, but as much as I love him I hope that he is not representative of his generation in the way that he thinks about the world. |
I had a chance to study abroad. One of my friends got into a program that had him going to australia for a semester. I declined to go, because of being in a pretty serious realtionship with a girl at that time and couldn't really deal with being away from her that long.
Looking back on it, I wish I had gone. I have traveled Europe and loved every place I visited.
So much history compared to our 231 years as a country. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by rod_jammer
Yes, not all of us can gain the educational gifts of Ms. Howard Stern and her home-schooling... |
Of course, he places the blame on teachers insetad of the stupidity of Americans.
Go fuck yourself, SDVT-2.
Funny how all republicunts blame the educational system when they fucked it up. |
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| SDVT-2 |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
Of course, he places the blame on teachers insetad of the stupidity of Americans.
Go fuck yourself, SDVT-2.
Funny how all republicunts blame the educational system when they fucked it up. |
My point is made. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
Of course, he places the blame on teachers insetad of the stupidity of Americans.
Go fuck yourself, SDVT-2.
Funny how all republicunts blame the educational system when they fucked it up. |
The problem is that we dont seem to make education a priority, because we dont want lower and middle class kids who will be going to a public school be on equal footing with private schools. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Reverend Tyler
The problem is that we dont seem to make education a priority, because we dont want lower and middle class kids who will be going to a public school be on equal footing with private schools. |
You are utterly clueless.
Look up the "voucher" program that President Bush supported that would give children from low-income homes the opportunity to get a better education at a private school.
Here's a primer for you -
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...s.ap/index.html
In the meanwhile, stay away from the far-left websites that traffic in deception and ideological brainwashing. |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: The problem is that we dont seem to make education a priority, because we dont want lower and middle class kids who will be going to a public school be on equal footing with private schools. |
I'll use as an example the new school building they just built close to me, Olympic size pool,6 tennis courts,a football field with astro turf ( 4 million dollars for JUST the turf ) and 2 baseball feilds
My question..> where are our priorities.? |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
In the meanwhile, stay away from... websites that traffic in deception and ideological brainwashing. |
next he's going to tell us not to use eagles as our avatars. |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by SDVT-2
My point is made. |
what do you do for a living again? |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by bigcat07
americans are the absolute dumbest group. they don't read or travel at all. the less you know the more you believe. as a result they fear everyone and everything. that's why they are so easily commanded, so docile towards the government, and so belligerent towards the rest of the world. no surprise they know no science. they have no knowledge of any other discipline either. they simply consume, waste, and seek out as much entertainment as they can afford. |
:bigclap: |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: ou are utterly clueless.
Look up the "voucher" program that President Bush supported that would give children from low-income homes the opportunity to get a better education at a private school.
Here's a primer for you -
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS...s.ap/index.htm. |
So in your mind a low income parent can pay the remainder of the balance after the voucher plus the yearly rising cost of the local school taxes in the district that the child no longer attends....bawhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I never laughed so hard in my life..these vouchers are nothing more than discounts for people that can already afford private schools you stupid fuck |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Science is fer girly-men.
I vote for the guy who looks tougher.
:p |
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| johnsonrod |
| Replied to wrong thread. |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by bigcat07
americans are the absolute dumbest group. they don't read or travel at all. the less you know the more you believe. as a result they fear everyone and everything. that's why they are so easily commanded, so docile towards the government, and so belligerent towards the rest of the world. no surprise they know no science. they have no knowledge of any other discipline either. they simply consume, waste, and seek out as much entertainment as they can afford. |
well put. |
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| Abba |
Quote: Originally posted by SDVT-2
My point is made. |
Your point is what exactly?
Quote: ChaseDC:
Of course, he places the blame on teachers insetad of the stupidity of Americans.
OH, NOW I get it. He misspelled "instead".
Wow, you're so wonderful and excellent! It's no wonder that you routinely DESTROY your adversaries and shred their arguments. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You're a retard to the umpth degree. |
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