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| VacateTheWord |
Pentagon slams Clinton on Iraq
The Pentagon told Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton that her questions about how the U.S. plans to eventually withdraw from Iraq boosts enemy propaganda.
In a stinging rebuke to a member of the Senate Armed Services Committee, Undersecretary of Defense Eric Edelman responded to questions Clinton raised in May in which she urged the Pentagon to start planning now for the withdrawal of American forces.
A copy of Edelman's response, dated July 16, was obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.
"Premature and public discussion of the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq reinforces enemy propaganda that the United States will abandon its allies in Iraq, much as we are perceived to have done in Vietnam, Lebanon and Somalia ," Edelman wrote.
He added that "such talk understandably unnerves the very same Iraqi allies we are asking to assume enormous personal risks."
Clinton spokesman Philippe Reines called Edelman's answer "at once outrageous and dangerous," and said the senator would respond to his boss, Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
Clinton has privately and publicly pushed Gates and Joint Chiefs Chairman Peter Pace two months ago to begin drafting the plans for what she said will be a complicated withdrawal of troops, trucks and equipment.
"If we're not planning for it, it will be difficult to execute it in a safe and efficacious way," she said then.
The strong wording of the response is unusual, particularly for a missive to a member of the Senate committee with oversight of the Defense Department and its budget.
Clinton aides said the letter ignored important military matters and focuses instead on political payback.
"Redeploying out of Iraq with the same combination of arrogance and incompetence with which the Bush administration deployed our young men and women into Iraq is completely unacceptable, and our troops deserve far better," said Reines, who said military leaders should offer a withdrawal plan rather than "a political plan to attack those who question them."
As she runs for president, the New York senator has ratcheted up her criticism of the Bush administration's war effort, answering critics of her 2002 vote to authorize the Iraq invasion by saying she would end the war if elected president.
Edelman's letter does offer a passing indication the Pentagon might, in fact, be planning how to withdraw, saying: "We are always evaluating and planning for possible contingencies. As you know, it is long-standing departmental policy that operational plans, including contingency plans, are not released outside of the department."
Edelman is the Undersecretary of defense for policy. He is also a former U.S. ambassador and one-time aide to Vice President Dick Cheney. During the 2004 campaign, Cheney told Iowa voters that electing the Democratic ticket of John Kerry and John Edwards would risk another terrorist attack.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070719...pr/clinton_iraq |
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| Fdubya247 |
The Iraqi government isn't saying anything different....so I guess they are officially in league with the insurgents now.
Thanks for pointing out more proof of COMPLETE BUSH FAILURE, Cunt!!!!
Keep up the good work, fuck-wit! |
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| Ass Boil |
Someone better tell Bush's own Defense Secretary that "public discussion" about Iraq withdrawl is so dangerous, because he said the opposite....
LOL
Gates Contradicts McCain, Says Iraq Debate Has Been ‘Helpful’
Earlier this week, Sen. John McCain appeared on NBC’s Today Show and said that the Senate debate over an Iraq phased withdrawal plan is aiding the enemy:
Look, the only guarantee of failure is to tell the enemy, “Hey, hang on; we’re leaving.” That’s what this message, this vote yesterday, tells them. I mean, a second-year cadet at West Point will tell you you don’t win wars by telling the enemy when you’re leaving.
McCain’s view is not shared by Bush’s Defense Secretary. Testifying before the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, Robert Gates said that the Iraq debate in Congress has been “helpful in bringing pressure to bear on the Maliki government.” Watch the two clips:
Gates added that the congressional debate informs Iraqis that “there is a very real limit to American patience in this entire enterprise.” That’s a not a message McCain is interested in sending; he prefers signaling an open-ended commitment in Iraq.
Transcript:
CRAMER: I was at the breakfast the other day when you smoke, and your words were brief, and the questions were tough of you. I want to get into some of the questions and make sure I heard what I think I heard. Question was about the supplemental and where we are. You made some remarks about the pressure that we’ve caused on the Maliki government, the Iraqi government there, and how helpful that was. If i heard you right, that’s what I thought you were saying. I particularly have been frustrated with their lack of progress, and as new as I am to this subcommittee, it’s frustrating to hear how unaccountable they’ve been for their investment in this war, their timely seat at the table with spending money, making sure it’s spent in the right way. Incredible issues. I want to give you the chance to further comment about how you think we can keep this pressure on the Maliki government, the Iraqi government, and transfer part of this responsibility to them.
GATES: I’d make two comments Mr. Cramer. First, what I said at the Army caucus breakfast was that I believe that the debate here on the Hill and the issues that have been raised have been helpful in bringing pressure to bear on the Maliki government and on the Iraqis in knowing that there is a very real limit to American patience in this entire enterprise.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/30/mccain-gates/ |
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| patcracker |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
....so I guess they are officially in league with the insurgents now.
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We are in league with the insurgents. Why do you think AQ is getting slammed by the Sunni's in Anbar Province. Its not becuase they like us. This is a civil war and we are constyantly changing sides against ourselves. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by patcracker
We are in league with the insurgents. Why do you think AQ is getting slammed by the Sunni's in Anbar Province. Its not becuase they like us. This is a civil war and we are constyantly changing sides against ourselves. |
I know! I'm just happy and glad that VaCunt is helping point that out!!
Go VaCunt!! |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Someone better tell Bush's own Defense Secretary that "public discussion" about Iraq withdrawl is so dangerous, because he said the opposite....
LOL
Gates Contradicts McCain, Says Iraq Debate Has Been ‘Helpful’
Earlier this week, Sen. John McCain appeared on NBC’s Today Show and said that the Senate debate over an Iraq phased withdrawal plan is aiding the enemy:
Look, the only guarantee of failure is to tell the enemy, “Hey, hang on; we’re leaving.” That’s what this message, this vote yesterday, tells them. I mean, a second-year cadet at West Point will tell you you don’t win wars by telling the enemy when you’re leaving.
McCain’s view is not shared by Bush’s Defense Secretary. Testifying before the House Defense Appropriations Subcommittee, Robert Gates said that the Iraq debate in Congress has been “helpful in bringing pressure to bear on the Maliki government.” Watch the two clips:
Gates added that the congressional debate informs Iraqis that “there is a very real limit to American patience in this entire enterprise.” That’s a not a message McCain is interested in sending; he prefers signaling an open-ended commitment in Iraq.
Transcript:
CRAMER: I was at the breakfast the other day when you smoke, and your words were brief, and the questions were tough of you. I want to get into some of the questions and make sure I heard what I think I heard. Question was about the supplemental and where we are. You made some remarks about the pressure that we’ve caused on the Maliki government, the Iraqi government there, and how helpful that was. If i heard you right, that’s what I thought you were saying. I particularly have been frustrated with their lack of progress, and as new as I am to this subcommittee, it’s frustrating to hear how unaccountable they’ve been for their investment in this war, their timely seat at the table with spending money, making sure it’s spent in the right way. Incredible issues. I want to give you the chance to further comment about how you think we can keep this pressure on the Maliki government, the Iraqi government, and transfer part of this responsibility to them.
GATES: I’d make two comments Mr. Cramer. First, what I said at the Army caucus breakfast was that I believe that the debate here on the Hill and the issues that have been raised have been helpful in bringing pressure to bear on the Maliki government and on the Iraqis in knowing that there is a very real limit to American patience in this entire enterprise.
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/30/mccain-gates/ |
There's a difference between a public debate in Congress and Hillary Clinton, in serving her own political gain, making public, formal requests to the Pentagon to draw up plans for retreat.
If you can't see the difference, then...
Well, "think progress" pretty much says it all. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
There's a difference between a public debate in Congress and Hillary Clinton, in serving her own political gain, making public, formal requests to the Pentagon to draw up plans for retreat.
If you can't see the difference, then...
Well, "think progress" pretty much says it all. |
Did she use the word "retreat"? Or did you just invent that and attribute it to her?
Maybe you can tell us specifically which part of the "debate" is acceptable and not acceptable? Or are you so afraid of the discussion you will suppress free speech in addition to all the other freedoms you were so quick to support getting rid of at the first sniff of trouble?
You are a coward. The America I know would not shit itself and throw away everything that makes us different than those we fight at the first sign of adversity.
I am embarassed for you, pussy. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Did she use the word "retreat"? Or did you just invent that and attribute it to her?
Maybe you can tell us specifically which part of the "debate" is acceptable and not acceptable? Or are you so afraid of the discussion you will suppress free speech in addition to all the other freedoms you were so quick to support getting rid of at the first sniff of trouble?
You are a coward. The America I know would not shit itself and throw away everything that makes us different than those we fight at the first sign of adversity.
I am embarassed for you, pussy. |
Nope, I'm not trying to surpress free speech - that is for the "fairness doctrine" people from your Democrat party. I was just glad to see the Pentagon point to how her public requests (given the committee she is part of, as well) serves as propaganda for our enemy. Hillary has the right to say what she wants, and the Pentagon has the right to call it what it is.
As for retreat versus "strategic redeployment" or whatever euphemism you Liberals want to use, let's call it what it is, which is a retreat and a declaration of defeat. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Nope, I'm not trying to surpress free speech - that is for the "fairness doctrine" people from your Democrat party. I was just glad to see the Pentagon point to how her public requests (given the committee she is part of, as well) serves as propaganda for our enemy. Hillary has the right to say what she wants, and the Pentagon has the right to call it what it is.
As for retreat versus "strategic redeployment" or whatever euphemism you Liberals want to use, let's call it what it is, which is a retreat and a declaration of defeat. |
In other words, this thread is worthless, just like you.
WORDS do not harm our soldiers, you pussy. Your hero placing them in an impossible situation that endangers their lives harms them...
But you don't care one bit about that, because you fully intend to keep your sorry ass right here at home, selling Korean cars. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Nope, I'm not trying to surpress free speech - that is for the "fairness doctrine" people from your Democrat party. I was just glad to see the Pentagon point to how her public requests (given the committee she is part of, as well) serves as propaganda for our enemy. Hillary has the right to say what she wants, and the Pentagon has the right to call it what it is.
As for retreat versus "strategic redeployment" or whatever euphemism you Liberals want to use, let's call it what it is, which is a retreat and a declaration of defeat. |
how about you define victory for us
should be simple :D |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by mingmen
how about you define victory for us
should be simple :D |
He already has.
:rolleyes:
Quote: Originally posted by Fdub
Quote: Originally posted by Vacate(TheTurd)
Simple - We'll win in Iraq once Iraq, as a nation, is in a position to govern, sustain and defend itself and is an ally in the war against terror. |
You mean like Saddam's Iraq, pre-Bush invasion and occupation?!?!? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Thanks for exposing your own ignorance yet again, cockroach!!!
*FLUSH*
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
In other words, this thread is worthless, just like you.
WORDS do not harm our soldiers, you pussy. Your hero placing them in an impossible situation that endangers their lives harms them...
But you don't care one bit about that, because you fully intend to keep your sorry ass right here at home, selling Korean cars. |
Yeah, "words don't harm our soldiers." I'm sure they were thrilled to hear the Senate majority leader declare the war they are fighting to be "lost." Rolls right off their backs, I bet.
:rolleyes:
And, as usual, when a Liberal cannot mount a substantiative counter argument, you result to personal attacks and worn straw men.
I'm sure you can do better than that, Ass Boil. Why not e-mail your colleagues at MoveOn.org or ThinkProgress directly and ask them for assistance? |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
And, as usual, when a Liberal cannot mount a substantiative counter argument, you result to personal attacks and worn straw men.
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Yeah, "words don't harm our soldiers." I'm sure they were thrilled to hear the Senate majority leader declare the war they are fighting to be "lost." Rolls right off their backs, I bet.
:rolleyes:
And, as usual, when a Liberal cannot mount a substantiative counter argument, you result to personal attacks and worn straw men.
I'm sure you can do better than that, Ass Boil. Why not e-mail your colleagues at MoveOn.org or ThinkProgress directly and ask them for assistance? |
Nice job failing to address what I posted, you stupid cocksucker (<<-- personal attack).
Let me ask it in the form of a question:
Do you think comments (<<--words) pose more of a threat to our soldiers than them being sent into an impossible situation as the unwanted 3rd party in a sectarian civil war for control of Iraq?
If you can't answer the question, just admit it and stop with the moronic (<<--personal attack) stalling and deflection. |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Nice job failing to address what I posted, you stupid cocksucker (<<-- personal attack).
Let me ask it in the form of a question:
Do you think comments (<<--words) pose more of a threat to our soldiers than them being sent into an impossible situation as the unwanted 3rd party in a sectarian civil war for control of Iraq?
If you can't answer the question, just admit it and stop with the moronic (<<--personal attack) stalling and deflection. |
Put into the framework of your question, no. Then again, our sodiers are not in an "impossible" situation. It is defeatists like yourself who have zero confidence in our military leadership that will never recognize the progress being made. All you want is cut and run and let the chips (consequences of a percipituous withdrawal) fall where they may.
So really I can't answer your question because it is unanswerable at this time - let General Petraeus declare the war to be an "impossible situation," not your far-left cohorts who undermine the effort on a daily basis. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
So really I can't answer your question because it is unanswerable at this time - let General Petraeus declare the war to be an "impossible situation," not your far-left cohorts who undermine the effort on a daily basis. |
You mean like GOP Senators Snow, Hagel, Voinobitch, Domenici, Luger, Warner, Gordon Smith....
:opps:
(debunk # 483 of that particular LIE) |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Put into the framework of your question, no. Then again, our sodiers are not in an "impossible" situation. It is defeatists like yourself who have zero confidence in our military leadership that will never recognize the progress being made. All you want is cut and run and let the chips (consequences of a percipituous withdrawal) fall where they may.
So really I can't answer your question because it is unanswerable at this time - let General Petraeus declare the war to be an "impossible situation," not your far-left cohorts who undermine the effort on a daily basis. |
Let me rephrase it since you are too much of a pussy (<<-- personal attack) to answer it as previously written:
Do WORDS pose more of a THREAT to our troops than the IEDs and civil war they are physically subject to in Iraq?
Think hard. Consult the Weekly Standard if necessary.... |
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| Fdubya247 |
"MementoTheTurd"....:
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
VacateTheTurd is like the guy in "Memento"....he forgets completely what has happened the previous day (the thrashings, the facts, the DEBUNKINGS, etc.), but he has the republicunt talking points (LIES) tattooed on his body so he can parrot them out for another bright and shining day... |
"...4 out of five brigades...take and hold...new strategy...wait 'til September..."
"Do not listen to his LIES..."
The Memento Turd: just another pile of :shit:
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Then again, our sodiers are not in an "impossible" situation. |
O'Rly? |
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| JTProcess |
Funny, last I read of Hillary's stance on Iraq she doesn't really want the US out... she also voted for the war.
If she ends up being the Democratic nominee it will solidify my belief that she is working for the Neocons. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
"MementoTheTurd"....:
"Do not listen to his LIES..."
The Memento Turd: just another pile of :shit:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
But Vacunt is too much of a pussy to actually tattoo himself, so he uses Crayola washable markers.... |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
:lol: :lol: :lol:
But Vacunt is too much of a pussy to actually tattoo himself, so he uses Crayola washable markers.... |
He likes sniffing them too... |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
He likes sniffing them too... |
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| VacateTheWord |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Let me rephrase it since you are too much of a pussy (<<-- personal attack) to answer it as previously written:
Do WORDS pose more of a THREAT to our troops than the IEDs and civil war they are physically subject to in Iraq?
Think hard. Consult the Weekly Standard if necessary.... |
Well, you are fixating on the troops and deflecting from the original debate (as usual). What the original article is discussing is our National Security. You are talking about the troops. It's an easy route to take - get the troops out of harm's way. Dipshit - everyone wants the troops out of harm's way, but if there is an enemy in Iraq bent on the destruction of the United States, then there is still a mission to accomplish. For further information, read the current NIE.
As to your dumb question, no, words alone do not pose more of a threat to our troops than IEDs and sectarian attacks.
Do "words" such as those utttered by Clinton pose a threat to the war effort by emboldening their efforts (they are officially drawing up plans for retreat, so let's keep on going with the bombings and push them over the edge!) and acting as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda - yes.
Do you now see the difference, dipshit? |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Well, you are fixating on the troops and deflecting from the original debate (as usual). What the original article is discussing is our National Security. You are talking about the troops. It's an easy route to take - get the troops out of harm's way. Dipshit - everyone wants the troops out of harm's way, but if there is an enemy in Iraq bent on the destruction of the United States, then there is still a mission to accomplish. For further information, read the current NIE.
As to your dumb question, no, words alone do not pose more of a threat to our troops than IEDs and sectarian attacks.
Do "words" such as those utttered by Clinton pose a threat to the war effort by emboldening their efforts (they are officially drawing up plans for retreat, so let's keep on going with the bombings and push them over the edge!) and acting as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda - yes.
Do you now see the difference, dipshit? |
Did you know that of all owls studied, the barn owl shows the best ability to discern where prey is in total darkness ? |
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| harley-davidson |
Did you know that this beautiful bird of prey has 100 times the intelligence of a Bush supporter..?
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| Fdubya247 |
"Pentagon"
:lol:
Edelman is one of Cheney's creatures....and a "recess appointment" (blocked by Hillary among others)...he is a grade A neo-conartist LIAR and hypocrite.
...big surprise.
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
Have you heard the Word? Vacate's a TURD!
Vacate: The :shit:
Don't bring up the "Powell Doctrine"...it makes Vacate (the Turd) "vacate" into his poopie panties... :shit: |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
In other words, this thread is worthless, just like you.
WORDS do not harm our soldiers, you pussy. Your hero placing them in an impossible situation that endangers their lives harms them...
But you don't care one bit about that, because you fully intend to keep your sorry ass right here at home, selling Korean cars. |
Maybe you should ask the Marine who is suing Traitor Jack about words not harming soldiers... Or the many soldiers (some whose comments have been posted here, and ignored or belittled by the leftbots) who have stated that the anti war rhetoric is having a negative effect on troop moral.
You might also do well to ask the terrorists, who look upon their allies in the anti war American left with glee everytime they call an AMerican soldier a murderer, state that his cause is lost, and or compare him to the worst human rights violators in history...
Don't you own a Honda??? I guess that just more hypocrisy from YOU... :burst: SO typical, so sad. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Well, you are fixating on the troops and deflecting from the original debate (as usual). What the original article is discussing is our National Security. You are talking about the troops. It's an easy route to take - get the troops out of harm's way. Dipshit - everyone wants the troops out of harm's way, but if there is an enemy in Iraq bent on the destruction of the United States, then there is still a mission to accomplish. For further information, read the current NIE.
As to your dumb question, no, words alone do not pose more of a threat to our troops than IEDs and sectarian attacks.
Do "words" such as those utttered by Clinton pose a threat to the war effort by emboldening their efforts (they are officially drawing up plans for retreat, so let's keep on going with the bombings and push them over the edge!) and acting as a propaganda tool for Al Qaeda - yes.
Do you now see the difference, dipshit? |
I was not "deflecting" a damn thing, you dolt. You claim Clinton's WORDS were hurting our "effort", but failed to prove in any way how this is in fact true. How did what she say hurt the troops or affect in any way what they are doing? Be specific. None of your bullshit memes. |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: Don't you own a Honda??? I guess that just more hypocrisy from YOU... burst out laughing SO typical, so sad. |
Why do you open your mouth when you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about ?
Quote: nuary 10, 2006
"Buy American Is The Last Reason To Buy GM"
David Kiley
General Motors sales and marketing chief Mark LaNeve says he has considered an ad that would say "Buy American" is the last reason you should buy a GM car.
LaNeve, who announced a new pricing scheme for GM vehicles that cuts out a lot of the rebates in favor of lower sticker prices, says he got the idea when listening to a speech by Ford Americas president Mark Fields at the LA Auto Show about how Ford embodied American values and how Toyota was "desperately trying to act American."
"We can compete on any level with the Japanese and Koreans and Europeans without talking about buying American," says LaNeve.
I asked Honda President and CEO Takeo Fukui whether he felt Honda should walk softly these days as GM and Ford go through such financial pains. Through an interpreter, he said, No, and elaborated. "Contrary to what some executives are saying, there is more content from U.S. based suppliers in some of our vehicles than there is in many of the vehicles from Detroit."
07:00 PM |
http://www.businessweek.com/autos/a...merican_is.html |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
Maybe you should ask the Marine who is suing Traitor Jack about words not harming soldiers... Or the many soldiers (some whose comments have been posted here, and ignored or belittled by the leftbots) who have stated that the anti war rhetoric is having a negative effect on troop moral.
You might also do well to ask the terrorists, who look upon their allies in the anti war American left with glee everytime they call an AMerican soldier a murderer, state that his cause is lost, and or compare him to the worst human rights violators in history...
Don't you own a Honda??? I guess that just more hypocrisy from YOU... :burst: SO typical, so sad. |
My Honda was made in Ohio, dipshit. I know that you hate the prospect of unionized American labor still operating in this great country, but I am not such an asshole..
And do you mean this guy?
Quote:
On December 21, 2006, the US military charged Wuterich with 12 counts unpremeditated murder against individuals and one count of the murder of six people "while engaged in an act inherently dangerous to others" [11]. While announcing the charges, Colonel Stewart Navarre said, "We now know with certainty the press release was incorrect and that none of the civilians were killed by the IED (improvised explosive device) explosion". |
Just checking....
And what of all the quotes from soldiers and former military that YOU ignore saying just the opposite? I guess using your coward logic they "hate" themselves?
Idiot. |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
My Honda was made in Ohio, dipshit. I know that you hate the prospect of unionized American labor still operating in this great country, but I am not such an asshole..
And do you mean this guy?
Just checking....
And what of all the quotes from soldiers and former military that YOU ignore saying just the opposite? I guess using your coward logic they "hate" themselves?
Idiot. |
Hyundai's are made in this country to0, dumbass !! :burst:
the FORMER military is NOT on the battlefield today now are they?????? Truth is that you don't give a shit about the soldiers or what helps or hurts them. ALl you care about is your pathetic Bush/America hatred .....thats it.
Has that guy been convicted of anything yet?? Or just charged??? I seem to remember another Marine who was charged with murder too....only to have a recommendation come down that the charges be tossed.....
Ohh....and Honda Ohio plants are NON UNION> !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :burst: :burst: :burst: |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: Hyundai's are made in this country to0, dumbass !! |
They sure didn't get a good review in consumer reports in 05 when we were shopping for a car |
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| harley-davidson |
| Quote: They sure didn't get a good review in consumer reports in 05 when we were shopping for a car |
Did a quick search , review, they really improved....nevermind |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by harley-davidson
They sure didn't get a good review in consumer reports in 05 when we were shopping for a car |
2006/07 models got very good reviews.....not sure about COnsumer reports, but a few other places I checked had almost all good things to say. |
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| otherone4life |
| nice to see the Pentagon acting in such an apolitical manner ... |
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| NCMike06 |
Quote: Originally posted by otherone4life
nice to see the Pentagon acting in such an apolitical manner ... |
THe truth is always Apolitical.... |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
THe truth is always Apolitical.... |
:lol:
When has a Cheney creature ever spoken the truth? Or been "apolitical"?
Cunt-lip.
Kream-Aid Mike06
Brainwashed Member
Swallowing That Sweet GOP Nectar
Posting Frequency_______
Kream-Guzzling Like a MoFo... |
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| otherone4life |
| take a look at the messenger - Edelman is a Cheney protege, former amb. to turkey (pre war ..lots of good THAT did) and dreaded NEO CON ....when will Edelman take any responsibility for the cluster fuck that is Iraq? |
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| NCMike06 |
I can post alot of links too...what would be the point?? You wouldn't read them anyway.. Ou have proven that consistently with your refusal to read what Patraeus says.
However, what about the fact that YOU own a foreign car, produced in a NON UNION factory !!!!! :burst: How fucking hilarious is it to think that you thought you were supporting union labor by buying a Honda from Ohio !!!! :burst: How does it feel now that the bubble is burst.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . You even fuck up when you think you have such noble intentions......LOL... Or you knew it wasn't a union built car, and bought it because you wanted it...which is perfectly fine....except that its just ONE MORE incident proving your hypocrisy !!!!! :burst:
WHich is it? Are you a fuck up, or hypocrite, or both (hint: both, is the correct answer) |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by NCMike06
However, what about the fact that YOU own a foreign car, produced in a NON UNION factory !!!!! :burst: How fucking hilarious is it to think that you thought you were supporting union labor by buying a Honda from Ohio !!!! :burst: How does it feel now that the bubble is burst.... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA . You even fuck up when you think you have such noble intentions......LOL... Or you knew it wasn't a union built car, and bought it because you wanted it...which is perfectly fine....except that its just ONE MORE incident proving your hypocrisy !!!!! :burst:
WHich is it? Are you a fuck up, or hypocrite, or both (hint: both, is the correct answer) |
holy shit, you have blown the lid off of this one :p
you have proved it again and again
you should create a thread about it :burst: :D |
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