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| booybob |
According to this study, your iq is genetic based, not culturally aquired.
no matter how far we bus students
no matter how much money we spend
no matter how far we lower standards
a certain group of people will be behind another group of people.
Damn, you mean it is not the fault of slavery and Jim Crow?
Nope, they are born that way.
Race Differences In Average
IQ Are Mostly Genetic,
Not Cultural
Medical Research News
7-25-7
A 60-page review of the scientific evidence, some based on state-of-the-art magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) of brain size, has concluded that race differences in average IQ are largely genetic.
The lead article in the June 2005 issue of Psychology, Public Policy and Law, a journal of the American Psychological Association, examined 10 categories of research evidence from around the world to contrast "a hereditarian model (50% genetic-50% cultural) and a culture-only model (0% genetic-100% cultural)."
The paper, "Thirty Years of Research on Race Differences in Cognitive Ability," by J. Philippe Rushton of the University of Western Ontario and Arthur R. Jensen of the University of California at Berkeley, appeared with a positive commentary by Linda Gottfredson of the University of Delaware, three critical ones (by Robert Sternberg of Yale University, Richard Nisbett of the University of Michigan, and Lisa Suzuki & Joshua Aronson of New York University), and the authors' reply.
"Neither the existence nor the size of race differences in IQ are a matter of dispute, only their cause," write the authors. The Black-White difference has been found consistently from the time of the massive World War I Army testing of 90 years ago to a massive study of over 6 million corporate, military, and higher-education test-takers in 2001.
"Race differences show up by 3 years of age, even after matching on maternal education and other variables," said Rushton. "Therefore they cannot be due to poor education since this has not yet begun to exert an effect. That's why Jensen and I looked at the genetic hypothesis in detail. We examined 10 categories of evidence."
1. The Worldwide Pattern of IQ Scores. East Asians average higher on IQ tests than Whites, both in the U. S. and in Asia, even though IQ tests were developed for use in the Euro-American culture. Around the world, the average IQ for East Asians centers around 106; for Whites, about 100; and for Blacks about 85 in the U.S. and 70 in sub-Saharan Africa.
2. Race Differences are Most Pronounced on Tests that Best Measure the General Intelligence Factor (g). Black-White differences, for example, are larger on the Backward Digit Span test than on the less g loaded Forward Digit Span test.
3. The Gene-Environment Architecture of IQ is the Same in all Races, and Race Differences are Most Pronounced on More Heritable Abilities. Studies of Black, White, and East Asian twins, for example, show the heritability of IQ is 50% or higher in all races.
4. Brain Size Differences. Studies using magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) find a correlation of brain size with IQ of about 0.40. Larger brains contain more neurons and synapses and process information faster. Race differences in brain size are present at birth. By adulthood, East Asians average 1 cubic inch more cranial capacity than Whites who average 5 cubic inches more than Blacks.
5. Trans-Racial Adoption Studies. Race differences in IQ remain following adoption by White middle class parents. East Asians grow to average higher IQs than Whites while Blacks score lower. The Minnesota Trans-Racial Adoption Study followed children to age 17 and found race differences were even greater than at age 7: White children, 106; Mixed-Race children, 99; and Black children, 89.
6. Racial Admixture Studies. Black children with lighter skin, for example, average higher IQ scores. In South Africa, the IQ of the mixed-race "Colored" population averages 85, intermediate to the African 70 and White 100.
7. IQ Scores of Blacks and Whites Regress toward the Averages of Their Race. Parents pass on only some exceptional genes to offspring so parents with very high IQs tend to have more average children. Black and White children with parents of IQ 115 move to different averages--Blacks toward 85 and Whites to 100.
8. Race Differences in Other "Life-History" Traits. East Asians and Blacks consistently fall at two ends of a continuum with Whites intermediate on 60 measures of maturation, personality, reproduction, and social organization. For example, Black children sit, crawl, walk, and put on their clothes earlier than Whites or East Asians.
9. Race Differences and the Out-of-Africa theory of Human Origins. East Asian-White-Black differences fit the theory that modern humans arose in Africa about 100,000 years ago and expanded northward. During prolonged winters there was evolutionary selection for higher IQ created by problems of raising children, gathering and storing food, gaining shelter, and making clothes.
10. Do Culture-Only Theories Explain the Data? Culture-only theories do not explain the highly consistent pattern of race differences in IQ, especially the East Asian data. No interventions such as ending segregation, introducing school busing, or "Head Start" programs have reduced the gaps as culture-only theory would predict.
In their article, Rushton and Jensen also address some of the policy issues that stem from their conclusions. Their main recommendation is that people be treated as individuals, not as members of groups. They emphasized that their paper pertains only to average differences. They also called for the need to accurately inform the public about the true nature of individual and group differences, genetics and evolutionary biology.
Rushton and Jensen are well-known for research on racial differences in intelligence. Jensen hypothesized a genetic basis for Black-White IQ differences in his 1969 Harvard Educational Review article. His later books Bias in Mental Tests (1980) and The g Factor (1998), as well as Rushton's (1995) Race, Evolution, and Behavior, show that tests are not biased against English speaking minorities and that Black-White-East Asian differences in brain size and IQ belong in an evolutionary framework.
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| Mr. PC |
| Oh christ ! get ready for a pounding :D |
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| booybob |
Quote: Originally posted by Mr. PC
Oh christ ! get ready for a pounding :D |
I know. Sometimes the truth hurts though :D |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Damn, you mean it is not the fault of slavery and Jim Crow?
Nope, they are born that way.
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You are a damn fool. If you take Albert Einstein and refuse him even the most basic educateion, he will be illiterate. |
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| Calistan |
Penis size is also genetic....Which I imagine is the true motivation behind these "Race/I.Q." studies.
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| Mr. PC |
Quote: Originally posted by Calistan
Penis size is also genetic....Which I imagine is the true motivation behind these "Race/I.Q." studies.
:scardie: |
Penis Size Around The World
Flacid length/erect length (in inches)
United States 3.4/5.0
Germany - na/5.6
Spain - na/5.3
France 4.7/6.2
Japan 3.1/5.1
Brazil - na/4.8
Italy 3.9/5.9
Venezuela 3.7/5.0
Mexico - na/5.9
Greece - na/4.8
India - na/4.0
Saudi Arabia - na/4.9
Chile - na/5.5
Colombia 3.5 5.4
Korea 2.7 3.7
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| Crazytree |
society has a lot to do with it.
my father was a brilliant man... unfortunately he grew up in a dirt poor environment and had to work for a living.
I have little doubt that he could have done the same work I do, even better than I.
fortunately for me I grew up in a middle-class household and my parents could float me [partially] while I completed my almost-25-years of school. |
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| JTProcess |
Quote: Originally posted by Mr. PC
Penis Size Around The World
Flacid length/erect length (in inches)
United States 3.4/5.0
Germany - na/5.6
Spain - na/5.3
France 4.7/6.2
Japan 3.1/5.1
Brazil - na/4.8
Italy 3.9/5.9
Venezuela 3.7/5.0
Mexico - na/5.9
Greece - na/4.8
India - na/4.0
Saudi Arabia - na/4.9
Chile - na/5.5
Colombia 3.5 5.4
Korea 2.7 3.7
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Where in gods name did you get these statistics? |
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| Jack Shit |
Here's proof:
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| Timmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Mr. PC
Penis Size Around The World
Flacid length/erect length (in inches)
United States 3.4/5.0
Germany - na/5.6
Spain - na/5.3
France 4.7/6.2
Japan 3.1/5.1
Brazil - na/4.8
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What's genetic make up of americans?? They are just a bunch of ethnic groups thrown together.
Geez, I guess Canadians have a genetic dispostion to hockey since they have so many top players. |
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| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
Where in gods name did you get these statistics? |
France, apparently. |
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| Reverend Tyler |
| The Bell Curve was massively denounced by the scientific community as being completely fraudulent |
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| mingmen |
| darkies :rolleyes: |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Mr. PC
Oh christ ! get ready for a pounding :D |
how many skull shapes are there? |
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| Calistan |
First man to die
For the flag we now hold high [Crispus Attucks]
Was a black man
The ground were we stand
With the flag held in our hand
Was first the red man's
Guide of a ship
On the first Columbus trip [Pedro Alonzo Nino]
Was a brown man
The railroads for trains
Came on tracking that was laid
By the yellow man
We pledge allegiance
All our lives
To the magic colors
Red, blue and white
But we all must be given
The liberty that we defend
For with justice not for all men
History will repeat again
It's time we learned
This World Was Made For All Men
Heart surgery
Was first done successfully
By a black man [Dr Daniel Hale Williams]
Friendly man who died
But helped the pilgrims to survive [Squanto]
Was a red man
Farm workers rights
Were lifted to new heights [Caesar Chavez]
By a brown man
Incandescent light
Was invented to give sight [Thomas Edison]
By the white man
We pledge allegiance
All our lives
To the magic colors
Red, blue and white
But we all must be given
The liberty that we defend
For with justice not for all men
History will repeat again
It's time we learned
This World Was Made For All Men
Hear me out...
Now I know the birthday of a nation
Is a time when a country celebrates
But as your hand touches your heart
Remember we all played a part in America
To help that banner wave
First clock to be made
In America was created
By a black man [Benjamin Banneker]
Scout who used no chart
Helped lead Lewis and Clark
Was a red man [Sacagawea]
Use of martial arts
In our country got its start
By a yellow man
And the leader with a pen
Signed his name to free all men
Was a white man [Abraham Lincoln]
We pledge allegiance
All our lives
To the magic colors
Red, blue and white
But we all must be given
The liberty that we defend
For with justice not for all men
History will repeat again
It's time we learned
This World Was Made For All Men
This world was made for all men
This world was made for all men
This world was made for all men
God saved His world for all men
All people
All babies
All children
All colors
All races
This world's for you
and me
This world
My world
Your world
Everybody's world
This world
Their world
Our world
This world was made for all men
Hear me out...
Who was the first man to set foot on the North Pole?
Matthew Henson - a black man
Who was the first american to show the Pilgrims at Plymouth the secrets of survival in the new world?
Squanto - a red man
Who was the soldier of Company G who won high honors for his courage and heroism in World War 1?
Sing Kee - a yellow man
Who was the leader of united farm workers and helped farm workers maintain dignity and respect?
Caesar Chavez - a brown man
Who was the founder of blood plasma and the director of the Red Cross blood bank?
Dr. Charles Drew - a black man
Who was the first American heroine who aided the Lewis and Clark expedition?
Sacajewa - a red woman
Who was the famous educator and semanticist who made outstanding contributions to education in America?
Hayakawa - a yellow man
Who invented the world's first stop light and the gas mask?
Garrett Morgan - a black man
Who was the American surgeon who was one of the founders of neurosurgery?
Harvey Williams Cushing - a white man
Who was the man who helped design the nation's capitol, made the first clock to give time in America and wrote the first almanac?
Benjamin Banneker - a black man
Who was the legendary hero who helped establish the League of Iroquois?
Hiawatha - a red man
Who was the leader of the first microbiotic center in America?
Micho Kushi - a yellow man
Who was the founder of the city of Chicago in 1772?
Jean Baptiste - a black man
Who was one of the organizers of the American Indian Movement?
Denis Banks - a red man
Who was the Jewish financier who raised founds to sponsor Cristopher Columbus' voyage to America?
Lewis D. Santangel - a white man
Who was the woman who led countless slaves to freedom on the underground rairoad?
Harriet Tubman - a black woman
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| kali |
Quote: Originally posted by Mr. PC
Penis Size Around The World
Flacid length/erect length (in inches)
United States 3.4/5.0
Germany - na/5.6
Spain - na/5.3
France 4.7/6.2
Japan 3.1/5.1
Brazil - na/4.8
Italy 3.9/5.9
Venezuela 3.7/5.0
Mexico - na/5.9
Greece - na/4.8
India - na/4.0
Saudi Arabia - na/4.9
Chile - na/5.5
Colombia 3.5 5.4
Korea 2.7 3.7
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the REAL reason some americans are jealous of the French :jj: |
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| ICE CUBAN |
| I agree. There has to be some genetic thing that makes crackers like booybob, NCMike, Vacate, and zimmie that fucking stupid. |
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| DUDE-HERE |
Quote: Originally posted by Crazytree
society has a lot to do with it.
my father was a brilliant man... unfortunately he grew up in a dirt poor environment and had to work for a living.
I have little doubt that he could have done the same work I do, even better than I.
fortunately for me I grew up in a middle-class household and my parents could float me [partially] while I completed my almost-25-years of school. |
holy shit
25 years in high school ?! |
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| WillowGlen |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
holy shit
25 years in high school ?! |
What can i say besides...
...fucking moron. |
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| Jackie Chan |
I believe asian are best, most evolved race on planet, better then whites and proven by science.
Many studies proven this but no studies proven otherwise.
I found an abridged audio version of philipe rushtons book, race evolution and behavour to share if anyone would like to down-load and listen, from link: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=69F386GE . Its very good audio version narated by profesor rushton.
http://www.megarotic.com/?d=69F386GE
I also beleve there are bad people who know this and still want to dominate asian race by taking brain steroid to make themselvs better. I already started an thread about this in other forum if anyone liked to discuss more
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/foru...452#post5013452 |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by DUDE-HERE
holy shit
25 years in high school ?! |
You are the most unintentionally funny poster here :D |
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| Reverend Tyler |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackie Chan
I believe asian are best, most evolved race on planet, better then whites and proven by science.
Many studies proven this but no studies proven otherwise.
I found an abridged audio version of philipe rushtons book, race evolution and behavour to share if anyone would like to down-load and listen, from link: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=69F386GE . Its very good audio version narated by profesor rushton.
http://www.megarotic.com/?d=69F386GE
I also beleve there are bad people who know this and still want to dominate asian race by taking brain steroid to make themselvs better. I already started an thread about this in other forum if anyone liked to discuss more
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/foru...452#post5013452 |
once again...The Bell Curve was thoroughly denounced by the scientific community. They made up data, made up conclusions...it was pure propaganda...
Quote: Criticisms
It is doubtful whether any book in the entire history of psychology has been so extensively attacked as The Bell Curve.[3] Perhaps the most prominent critic of The Bell Curve was the late Stephen Jay Gould, who in 1996 released a revised and expanded edition of his 1981 controversial book The Mismeasure of Man intended to refute many of The Bell Curve's claims regarding race and intelligence. Specifically, Gould argues that the current evidence showing heritability of IQ does not indicate a genetic origin to group differences in intelligence. Murray claims that Gould misstated his claims; for instance, Gould says Murray boils down intelligence to a single factor while Murray denies making such a claim.
The initial positive reception of The Bell Curve in media such as newspapers and television talk shows was troubling to critics such as economist Edward S. Herman and evolutionary biologist Joseph L. Graves who felt that it indicated a troubling acceptance of what Herman calls deterministic racist doctrines.[4] Dennis M. Rutledge suggests that through soundbites of works like Jensen's famous study on the achievement gap, and Herrnstein and Murray's book The Bell Curve, the media "paints a picture of Blacks and other people of color as collective biological illiterates-- as not only intellectually unfit but evil and criminal as well." thus providing, he says "the logic and justification for those who would further disenfranchise and exclude racial and ethnic minorities."[5]
[edit] Flawed assumptions
Much of the criticism of The Bell Curve has focused on the potential for faults in the basic assumptions made at the beginning of the book. William J. Matthews and Stephen Jay Gould list four basic assumptions of The Bell Curve:
1. Intelligence must be depictable as a single number.
2. Intelligence must be capable of rank ordering people in a linear order.
3. Intelligence must be primarily genetically based.
4. Intelligence must be essentially immutable.
If any of these premises are false then their entire argument disintegrates (Gould, 1994).[6] Similarly, in "Science" in the service of Racism C. Loring Brace writes that The Bell Curve makes six basic assumptions at the beginning of the book:
1. Human Cognitive ability is a single general entity, depictable as a single number.
2. Cognitive ability has a heritability of between 40 and 80 percent and is therefore primarily genetically based.
3. IQ is essentially immutable, fixed over the course of a life span.
4. IQ tests measure how "smart" or "intelligent" people are and are capable of rank ordering people in a linear order.
5. IQ tests can measure this accurately.
6. IQ tests are not biased with regard to race ethnic group or socioeconomic status.
Brace proceeds to argue that there are faults in every one of these assumptions. Nobel prize winning statistician James Heckman writes that two assumptions made in the book are questionable:
1. "g" accounts for correlation across test scores and performance in society.
2. "g" cannot be manipulated.
Heckman writes that a reanalysis of the evidence used in The Bell Curve contradicts this story. The factors that explain wages receive different weights than the factors that explain test scores. More than "g" is required to explain either. Other factors besides "g" contribute to social performance, and they can be manipulated.[7] Murray responded to a shorter version of Heckman's critique in an August 1995 letter exchange in Commentary magazine.
[edit] Flawed methodology
Michael Hout of the University of California at Berkeley, along with five colleagues, recalculated the effect of socioeconomic status, using the same variables as The Bell Curve but weighting them differently. They found that if IQ scores are corrected to eliminate the effect of education as Herrnstein and Murrays did, the ability of IQ to predict poverty can be made to look dramatically overstated by as much as 61 percent for whites and 74 percent for blacks. In other words, according to Hout et al., Herrnstein and Murray's finding, that IQ predicts poverty much better than socioeconomic status does, is substantially a result of the way they handled the statistics.[8] In a paper titled A Reanalysis of The Bell Curve researchers found that Herrnstein and Murray's measure of parental socioeconomic status failed to capture the effects of important elements of family background (such as single-parent family structure at age 14). As a result, their analysis gave an exaggerated impression of the importance of IQ relative to parents` SES, and relative to family background.[9]
In the book Intelligence, Genes, and Success: Scientists Respond to The Bell Curve a group of social scientists and statisticians analyzes the genetics-intelligence link, the concept of intelligence, the malleability of intelligence and the effects of education, the relationship between cognitive ability, wages and meritocracy, pathways to racial and ethnic inequalities in health, and the question of public policy. This work argues that much of the public response was polemic and failed to analyze the details of the science and validity of the statistical arguments underlying the book's conclusions.[10]
[edit] Contradictory findings
Min-Hsiung Huang and Robert M. Hauser found that, controlling for social background, the Black-White test score gap narrowed significantly over the period from 1974 to 1998. These results provide no support for any of the trend hypotheses advanced by Herrnstein and Murray
Min-Hsiung Huang and Robert M. Hauser found that, controlling for social background, the Black-White test score gap narrowed significantly over the period from 1974 to 1998. These results provide no support for any of the trend hypotheses advanced by Herrnstein and Murray[11]
A recent paper in the Psychological Review, "Heritability Estimates Versus Large Environmental Effects: The IQ Paradox Resolved" presents a mechanism by which environmental effects on IQ may be magnified by feedback effects. This approach may provide a resolution of the contradiction between the viewpoint of The Bell Curve and its supporters, and the 'nurture' factors of IQ believed to exist by its critics. Janet Currie and Duncan Thomas presented evidence suggesting AFQT scores are likely better markers for family background than "intelligence" in a 1999 Study.
Herrnstein and Murray report that conditional on maternal "intelligence" (AFQT scores), child test scores are little affected by variations in socio-economic status. Using the same data, we demonstrate their finding is very fragile.[12]
Charles R. Tittle, Thomas Rotolo found that the more written, IQ-like examinations are used as screening devices for occupational access, the stronger the relationship between IQ and income. Thus, rather than higher IQ leading to status attainment because it indicates skills needed in a modern society, IQ may reflect the same test-taking abilities used in artificial screening devices by which status groups protect their domains.[13] Min-Hsiung Huang and Robert M. Hauser write that Herrnstein and Murray provide scant evidence of growth in cognitive sorting. Using data from the General Social Survey, they tested each of these hypotheses using a short verbal ability test which was administered to about 12,500 American adults between 1974 and 1994 the results provided no support for any of the trend hypotheses advanced by Herrnstein and Murray.[14]
[edit] Fueling racism
Dennis M. Rutledge suggests that through soundbites of works like Jensen's famous study on the achievement gap, and Herrnstein and Murray's book The Bell Curve, the media "paints a picture of Blacks and other people of color as collective biological illiterates-- as not only intellectually unfit but evil and criminal as well." thus providing, he says "the logic and justification for those who would further disenfranchise and exclude racial and ethnic minorities."[15] Many critics point out that 17 of the researchers whose work is referenced by the book are also contributors to Mankind Quarterly, a magazine with a slant towards racial eugenics. In his book The Bell Curve Wars: Race, Intelligence, and the Future of America Steven Fraser writes that by scrutinizing the footnotes and bibliography in The Bell Curve, readers can more easily recognize the project for what it is: a chilly synthesis of the work of disreputable race theorists and eccentric eugenicists. [16] Since the book promulgated the idea that blacks were on average less intelligent than whites, some people fear that The Bell Curve can be used by extremists to justify genocide and hate crimes.[17] Critics have noted much of the work referenced by the Bell Curve was funded by the Pioneer Fund, which aims to advance the scientific study of heredity and human differences, and has been accused of promoting scientific racism.[18][19][20] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve#Criticisms |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackie Chan
I believe asian are best, most evolved race on planet, better then whites and proven by science.
Many studies proven this but no studies proven otherwise.
I found an abridged audio version of philipe rushtons book, race evolution and behavour to share if anyone would like to down-load and listen, from link: http://www.megarotic.com/?d=69F386GE . Its very good audio version narated by profesor rushton.
http://www.megarotic.com/?d=69F386GE
I also beleve there are bad people who know this and still want to dominate asian race by taking brain steroid to make themselvs better. I already started an thread about this in other forum if anyone liked to discuss more
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/foru...452#post5013452 |
You sound like an idiot race baiter to me.
Just sayin'
I would not be eager to claim those posts you link to.
I think you are a mult-but you might just be dumb. I am sure we will find out :rolleyes: |
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| Jackie Chan |
Quote: Originally posted by mingmen
You sound like an idiot race baiter to me.
Just sayin'
I would not be eager to claim those posts you link to.
I think you are a mult-but you might just be dumb. I am sure we will find out :rolleyes: |
I am not very articulete in english.
you are very wicked person. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackie Chan
I am not very articulete in english.
you are very wicked person. |
It is not your horrendous spelling and grammar that irked me. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackie Chan
you are very wicked person. |
OK, Mr. Brain Steroids. :D |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by Crazytree
society has a lot to do with it.
my father was a brilliant man... unfortunately he grew up in a dirt poor environment and had to work for a living.
I have little doubt that he could have done the same work I do, even better than I.
fortunately for me I grew up in a middle-class household and my parents could float me [partially] while I completed my almost-25-years of school. |
nice tribute to your dad.....he was a patient man to float you through public school for 25 years... |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
nice tribute to your dad.....he was a patient man to float you through public school for 25 years... |
many of the top universities in this country are public, but you wouldn't know that because you're an uneducated and ignorant fuck. :rolleyes: |
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| kali |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackie Chan
I believe asian are best, most evolved race on planet, better then whites and proven by science. |
The japanese eat sushi - fish is brain food.
I love fish and I'm going to keep eating fish. Maybe someday, I'll be a genius :hw: |
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| Crazytree |
Quote: Originally posted by Jackie Chan
I believe asian are best, most evolved race on planet, better then whites and proven by science. |
strange because when I've traveled through most of Asia, 90% of the people who lived there were ignorant illiterates who lived in villages.
China barely figured out how to feed itself for the first time in the late 1960's. |
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