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| Mutt |
Here are the most complete details we've been able to find concerning the new subscription options. The Butler found this over at www.Orbitcast.com.
The most important thing is as a Stern listener, the $6.99 50 channel ala cart plan isn't an option. Howard 100/101 is a super premium package which cost $6 on top of the $6.99 ala cart price. at that point you are paying $12.99 which means you might as well keep what we have now. $12.99 gets you the all of Sirius plan.
AFTER THE MERGER, YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU GET NOW FOR THE EXACT SAME $12.99 YOU CURRENTLY PAY!
Don't start crying that it's going to cost more than you pay now becasue it's not true. The only way you will pay more than you do today is if you want to get more than you get today.
If you want baseball, there's no solid info available yet. The $16.99 everything Sirius & select XM plan and the $14.99 100 channel ala cart plan includes Howard and 11 XM channels. no word as to what those 11 are but I assume baseball would be one of them. who knows though. They have 10 premium music channels, 8 premium entertainment, & 46 sports channels.
At this point there isn't an everything Sirius & everything XM option. You either get everything Sirius & 11 XM or everything XM & 11 Sirius.
Ala cart plans require a next generation radio. Still no details as to what exactly next generation radios are. Some info points to the current newer radios like the Sportster 4 & the Stiletto being next generation. Then other info points to them being new radios not yet developed. As soon as I find out for certain, I'll let you know.
These links list every channel that is included in the ala cart plans. Well, other than the 11 mystery XM channels that have not yet been negotiated.
Sirius subscription info
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/s...er-line-up.html
XM subscription info
http://www.orbitcast.com/archives/x...er-line-up.html |
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| LennyD23 |
| Thank you sir. :bigup: |
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| Mutt |
| 100 channel ala cart |
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| Mutt |
| everything Sirius & select XM |
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| tnk |
| i plan to just keep Sirius. There's nothing on XM that peaks my interest. |
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| Mutt |
| news, sports, & talk |
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| Radio Play Kid |
| Thanks Mutt |
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| Mutt |
| they didn't have the $11.99 family friendly package but as a stern fan, who the hell cares |
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| pucksandbeer |
| So in essence Howard is really $12.95.....just my opinion but the merger was to give you choice but if you want Howard then we are all going to stick with what we have. |
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| Mike E Fresh |
| Can we pay $6.00 just to have H100 and H101? :dontknow: |
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| Ozzy5150 |
| So basically, who gives a shit if they merge. XM has nothing to offer. |
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| mkriss5681 |
| Just 11 XM stations we can pick?? What Stations?? Still nothing about MLB?? |
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| NWSternGirl |
They're gonna hold MLB hostage...that's the ONLY XM offering that any Sirius subscribers will give a shit about, if any. We're gonna have to pay a premium for baseball...fuck me.
And XM subscribers are gonna say the same thing re paying extra for Howard (H100 and H101).
Anyone have info on how they're planning to handle current Lifetime Subscriptions?
Thanks for posting all of that for us, Mutt! |
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| NWSternGirl |
| BTW, LOLz @ "Family Friendly" package!!!1 :jj: :funny: :rdf: :rofl: |
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| Cirrus |
| They should allow a "Howard Only" package for 9.99 a month or something. Save me a few bucks.. |
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| ChrissyGirl |
| This might not be a popular choice here, but what about O&A? I don't know or care about the fued, but a friend has XM and really likes them. So I'd kinda like to listen to Howard in the morning and O&A in the afternoons. |
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| ChrissyGirl |
| I also wonder if you will still be able to add additional radios for $6.99 |
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| SiriuSternFan1 |
Quote: Originally posted by LennyD23
Thank you sir. :bigup: |
kiss ass...:funny: |
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| mucksp |
Thanks for posting this Mutt. I would imagine that if you wanted to add MLB to your Sirius subscription it would be at least another $5 or $6 seeing in which adding Football to your Sirius a la carte would be $5 and Howard would be $6. (I would imagine it'd be $6 or higher since that's pretty much the only XM option you can't already get on Sirius).
So essentially for Howard fans or those of us who don't feel like buying new receivers anytime soon, it'll be status quo after the merger.
The real question is, how long will it take for us to start bitching about Fridays and vacations because now we'll be "even more so" paying for Howard ;) |
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| ArtiesBookie |
thanks for the info Mutt.
Not to "stir the shit"...but isnt Howards channels being in the "premium" category kind of the antithesis to Howards philosophy of never making people pay extra to listen to him?
Also...if XM currently has 170 channels...even with some of them being duplicates of ones at Sirius...why is the maximum number of channels on any of the packages 140? What happened to those other 30 channels? |
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| RichardsTissue |
| After the merger everything will change and likely it will be all Sirius, those 11 channels are probably the XM contracts with O&A, Baseball, Hockey...etc. Once those contracts expire, O&A will be excusive to terrestrial radio, so say goodbye, and baseball will renew their contract. Basicly Sirius is banking on the millions of XM listeners not the channels. |
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| The Butler |
| Depending on what is included in the "Best of XM" addition to the current Sirius plan, that may not be bad deal at $16.99. And with that plan, you wouldn't need a new reciever. Thanks for the credit in the first post Mutt. |
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| ChrissyGirl |
I feel mislead...not by Mutt though,,,Sirius and XM stock takes a BIG dive today as details of merger come out.
I WANT Howard (no Bubba), NFL, MLB and YES O&A...so looks like I'm going to be paying more...just what other stock holders like me think |
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| skawash |
| sirius has everything i want. xm has baseball but who cares? i cant watch more than two innings, why would i want to listen to a game? i say dont merge, keep fighting it out and bury xm. |
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| Obliwagee ga |
| Someone already asked "WHAT ABOUT LIFE TIME SUBSCRIBERS?"... |
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| superdadd |
| Is the broadcast bandwidth going to be increased? Sirius is broadcast at 96kbps. The Premium Internet Stream is supposed to be 128kbps, so I have that for the home. Anyone heard? |
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| A.Lang=Crazy |
| As long as I can keep the radio I have now and get both Howard channels all NFL games and MLB games with the price being 12.99 or lower I will be fine. |
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| sdlee |
| fingers crossed for the merger. |
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| Matacojudos |
Why is the Ala Cart 100 priced at $14.99? when you can get everything for 12.99?
Edit: Oh Nvm, you can pick from the XM channels. |
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| ShutupMoron |
Quote: Originally posted by NWSternGirl
Anyone have info on how they're planning to handle current Lifetime Subscriptions? |
I've asked in the other threads but no one seems to know and I haven't been able to find any info in the press releases that mention the LT subs. |
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| thebully |
WTF is with the Premium Music channels....
Looks like they took the few channels people like to listen to and are going to charge you for them...thats bullshit.
And, why so much for Howard....he plays commercial after commercial....
I could honestly give a crap about ther merger for sure now.
This shit is getting more complicated than my Cable bill. |
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| C-Nic |
| Thanks fo the info. It's obvious that nothing is gonna change for me! All we need is the "King" and some kickass music. |
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| amsterdamaged |
you WILL pay more if you want MLB stop dreaming and pouting "if i don't get MLB on my current radio for free I'll hold my breath until I do!!"
But .....I do think LT sub's should be rewarded with SOMETHING???????????? |
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| Chooby |
Quote: Originally posted by Mutt
AFTER THE MERGER, YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU GET NOW FOR THE EXACT SAME $12.99 YOU CURRENTLY PAY!
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Wasn't there some talk of prices coming down? wtf how does this benefit the subscriber in any way?
I see all the options I'm not blind but they said the price would come down, that the customers would pay less because all the double work is eliminated. |
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| jobbey |
| all i want is mlb with all my sirius channels ... whats that gonna cost $20? |
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| Baba O'Booey |
| Quote: Howard 100/101 is a super premium package which cost $6 on top of the $6.99 ala cart price. |
lol, all those people that said the merger wouldn't screw the consumer, eat your words. this is only the beginning.
and it's french... it's spelled "À la carte" |
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| jobbey |
Quote: Originally posted by Baba OBooey
lol, all those people that said the merger wouldn't screw the consumer, eat your words. this is only the beginning.
and it's french... it's spelled "À la carte" |
ala' bullshit |
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| Apoc13 |
Quote: Originally posted by jobbey
all i want is mlb with all my sirius channels ... whats that gonna cost $20? |
me too...and i don't have a problem paying a few extra bucks for it |
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| jobbey |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
me too...and i don't have a problem paying a few extra bucks for it |
cant get the game at work weei is too far away. ill pay whatever $$$... also i was wondering after the baseball season is over could i get rid of it and save the $$$ till it starts up again? only thing i want from xm is baseball. we have all the music channels here. not to mention the comedy channels. |
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| The Butler |
Quote: Originally posted by jobbey
all i want is mlb with all my sirius channels ... whats that gonna cost $20? |
From what I've read from the source that got this thread started, the XM sports package will cost $6.00 (Sirius Sports is $5). That plus what you're paying now would be $18.95. Not too bad IMO. I'm not that big of a baseball fan and I can pick up my Indians games just about anywhere I go, so I doubt I'll jump. I'm more interested in what's included in the Sirius plus "Best of XM" package for $16.99. No word yet on if you'll need a new reciever to pick up the XM sports package.
What I don't understand with the A La Carte packages is how long can they market channels that may not be around in a year (pending merger approval)? There's alot of duplicate stations. |
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| ShutupMoron |
Quote: Originally posted by Chooby
Wasn't there some talk of prices coming down? wtf how does this benefit the subscriber in any way?
I see all the options I'm not blind but they said the price would come down, that the customers would pay less because all the double work is eliminated. |
They never said that. They said current subscribers would pay less then $25.90 if you currently had both a Sirius and an XM sub. They also said there would be less expensive price plans with reduced content for both Sirius and XM subs. And fianally they said the current $12.95 subs would not increase in price after the merger.
The benefit for both Sirius and XM subscribers is no price increase (no not forever), the eventual elimination of these stupid Sirius and XM exclusive auto contracts and the development of smaller, better fixed and portable radios down the road as well as a better SAT/terrestrial network. The other benifit is you will be able to get either some Sirius or XM content with one sub which you currently cannot do. |
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| ShutupMoron |
Quote: Originally posted by Baba OBooey
lol, all those people that said the merger wouldn't screw the consumer, eat your words. this is only the beginning.
and it's french... it's spelled "À la carte" |
BS, they never said you would pay less then you are now for either a Sirius or XM sub with all the content you currently have. They did say no one would pay more then they are currently paying for either sub. |
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| rizzo |
| That would be sweet. I'd definitely go back to XM hardware + Howard. Sirius hardware and the online player suck ass. Thanks for the info. |
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| Deric |
great... If i wanted to order only the channels I wanted I would pay .25 cents more than now :rolleyes:
They should just call this the "no howard discount package" since there's nothing in it for us. |
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| Misskitty |
| Just hope we don't have to have our ears worn down listening to him hawk the new packages. |
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| bigeraiderfan |
| I would be just fine getting Howard, Howard 101, and couple of stations. I only bought Sirius for howard. Glad it will not be changing. FCC needs to move on. |
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| WildG |
| As long as the MLB and NHL channel are in the XM 11 I'm upgrading my radio and going for it! |
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| SycoMyk |
| Hell yeah as long as I'm not paying more to get less, IM HAPPY :p |
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| dcjispimp |
| I just want MLB from XM. I could give a shit about most sports channels on Sirius and all the goddamn traffic channels which are not my city. |
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| AssFaceKilla |
| what if you paid the 500 hundo for a lifetime sirius service.......i want both for 16.99 a month right???? i guess we will wait and see....... |
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| LASternFan |
| I use to have xm the only good thing on there is MLB thats about it dont really care for there other crap :o |
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| sdlee |
Quote: Originally posted by Ozzy5150
So basically, who gives a shit if they merge. XM has nothing to offer. |
Nothing part from the 8+ million subscribers! |
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| Sternfan91 |
| im satisfied with what we got...we dont get great reception and i dont know if we're gunna keep it...the sportster boombox is pretty much useless and for our stratus we got the boombox for free(faulty service throughout 1 year). not too crazy bout xm's music either...i get my yankees on am. |
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| DickGuzinnia |
Quote: Originally posted by Obliwagee ga
Someone already asked "WHAT ABOUT LIFE TIME SUBSCRIBERS?"... |
No changes, and I'm halfway to the break even mark |
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| HiTekRedNek |
| ( http://mw1.merriam-webster.com/dict.../A%20La%20Carte) A La Carte: according to a menu or list that prices each item separately. Words mean things and any of the plans do not meet the meaning of a la carte. Looks more to me like A La Crap! The fact that I cannot pick and choose the music stations that I wish to pay for shows how the use of words have been abused to the point they no longer represent their true definition. :what: |
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| iloveallison |
| I am against the merger for the following: Yes I have bought a lifetime subscription. I am perfectly happy with what I currently have. What incentive is there for them to improve My current service? Zero. They want more $ from me, they always want more $. They want me to buy a new radio? BS. NO COMPETITION HURTS THE CONSUMER. I would like Mutt or anyone else to explain to me how this is better. They will never improve my service unless I spend more $. For example; let's say Adam Corolla takes over for Howard when he retires. I am fairly certain that I would not get Adam for free, and have to shell out more $, either ala carte or with a premium pay, ala O&A on XM. |
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| rogergrape |
If anyone actually thought that a la carte would allow Stern listeners to pay less than they pay now, they are delusional.
A majority of the new subscriptions that came in over the last couple of years were from people like me who are only interested in listening to Stern. There is no way they are going to kill their bottom line by giving us the option to cut out all the other stuff. Why would they do that? I would not be surprised if it becomes more expensive.
It's the same reason that you can't get cable channels a la carte. I have to have 200 cable channels just to get like 10 that I actually watch, and they are aware of this. same principle with the new subscription proposals.
And don't listen to Stern's propaganda about the merger. There is a conflict of interest there. He stands to make a lot of money from his stocks if there is a merger.
It will definitely hurt the consumer if there is only 1 satellite company as opposed to 2. Competition is what keeps us free |
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| garwood34 |
It's BIG business at its finest, and we are just pawns in their little game of deceit.
It takes money to make money, and the only way for a subscriber-only business to make money is to get new subscribers....and deceive them the way Howard fans were deceived about vacations every other week.
Pathetic !! |
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| cj2tj |
| I wish they would just drop the 6.95 per unit, I have two units in the vehicles, and one boombox. 20 bucks per month right now and possibly climbing. :mad: |
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| fstyley |
| I think the a la cart is shitty. It will cost more per channel and you will get pay up the ass to get any channels that you would really want. I listen to music, sports and the talk channels, I am better off just buying two radios. Fuck the merger!! I wish Howard would be honest about it rather than doing a Sirius infomercial. At least Howard was a little more honest K-rock. |
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| BrentsBooger |
| How much do I have to pay to to ensure those assholes O & A never get on my radio? |
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| Spoo30 |
| This whole select your stations crap is faulty from the start. I've had my radio since Stern left terrestrial, and he's the only reason I have the damn unit in the first place. I think there might be something to this merger blocking after all. My roommate has XM in his car, and it sucks balls. I don't want or need any shit from XM. |
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| Hannibal06 |
| So by looking at the lineups can you honestly say that this merger was for the consumer? I mean, what I'll get from this merger is basically 11 more channels than I currently have. Big fugg'n deal. From what I see, this is a merger that basically eliminates a competitor and allows the combined company to cut costs. Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-merger, but please don't sell me a line of BS saying that this merger will benefit me as a consumer. For just 11 channels??? Please. |
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| rogergrape |
| mergers do not help anything but the bottom line of the companies and the shareholders 99 percent of the time |
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| sdlee |
| As long as I can get my Stern and Bubba fix over SIR, I don't give a fuck ;). |
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| ArtiesBookie |
for those that havent made up their mind about the merger, here's some propaganda from the NAB camp. someone posted this chart in another thread going around and I thought it might be topically relevant here as well:
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| Spoo30 |
| Thanks for posting that comparison ArtiesBookie! It's amazing when it's in writing! |
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| MDC |
| I purchased a lifetime agreement when Howard announced he was going to Sirius. I took the chance that Sirius and Howard would succeed and shelled out 500.00 dollars for this agreement. Now if this merger goes through, I have to start paying for the service. That is bullsh_t. Sirius should honor those individuals lifetime agreement regardless if they merge or not. Mutt, you have Howards ear, you need to say something about this. |
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| Spoo30 |
| This is complete bullshit. I was wondering if the lifetimers would be forced to start making additional payments. That is why I sucked it up and paid for 2 years at a time, I was afraid they wouldn't honor the lifetimers. They had better give you a discount or something. Any less would be theft. |
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| ArtysButtCrack |
| Its a sad state of affairs. |
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| DevilDogDareYou |
| Has anyone said what's going to happen if you'd got a life time membership? |
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| ShutupMoron |
Quote: Originally posted by MDC
I purchased a lifetime agreement when Howard announced he was going to Sirius. I took the chance that Sirius and Howard would succeed and shelled out 500.00 dollars for this agreement. Now if this merger goes through, I have to start paying for the service. That is bullsh_t. Sirius should honor those individuals lifetime agreement regardless if they merge or not. Mutt, you have Howards ear, you need to say something about this. |
Where have read that the lifetime subs won't be honored or that you'll pay anything more for the content you currently have? |
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| DevilDogDareYou |
| Mutt!! Help! Have you heard anything about this? If we have to pay anything more that's bull.. that's not what I signed up for. XM can keep their bullshit stations, I could give a rats ass. I only got this for howard. |
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| jjackaupo |
| I've got a life time subscription to Syrius... Does that roll over to XM as well? Anybody heard anything? |
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| burglared turd |
| Why all the fuss to make this merger sound like a great thing? Baseball is the only thing any Sirius subscriber would want, and they are going to make you pay out the ass for it. |
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| horse2f wisprer |
| nice work.thanks! |
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| pagan |
| Thanks for the info Mutt! You rock! |
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| BillieAZ |
| Thanks for posting Mutt, I am going to keep Sirius, Screw XM and Oprah |
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| AndroidIQ |
Quote: Originally posted by superdadd
Is the broadcast bandwidth going to be increased? Sirius is broadcast at 96kbps. The Premium Internet Stream is supposed to be 128kbps, so I have that for the home. Anyone heard? |
96kbps ... are you talking about the satellite feed or the internet feed?
No wonder the music channels sound like shit. |
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| ShawnS987 |
| So they keep saying that they would keep the price the same but now with this new system you end up paying more for what you want. That is some B.S |
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| guayuque |
| Mutt, good info, but dude, have you ever read a menu other than at McDonalds? It is not "ala cart". It is " a la carte". |
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| luckycharm |
Quote: Originally posted by tnk
i plan to just keep Sirius. There's nothing on XM that peaks my interest. |
is this a real program plan? :p |
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| HiTekRedNek |
| To make it fair (IMO), could I give up the NBA coverage on Sirius and take the MLB stuff from XM? That would make me happy. |
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| rchristyfan |
| Howard 100 and 101 is Sirius now. the music stations just give us something to listen to until the next live Howard Stern Show is on |
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| cfr0628 |
| Honestly, I hope the merger doesnt go through. I kinda like the competition. And If we want to get H100 H101, we still pay 13 a month.... Fuck the Merger. |
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| STAIN190 |
| The one channel I dont Give a fuck about Is Maxim Channel.. Fuck you son of a bitches!!!!!!!!! :p :p :p |
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| jjackaupo |
| Ok, so I dropped $500 for the "lifetime" subscription. If they merge, does my "Lifetime" subscription merge too? |
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| cfr0628 |
| Okay so Obviously I dont work for Sirius or XM. But from what I've read on the sirius website, your current subscripton plans and units will still function after the merger. I hope this is true because the Sirius website said to continue to keep buying units as needed and that they will work. That would be a huge let down if they lied. Or come up with some lame excuse why everyone has to buy new units. And speaking of Maxim, I lost alot of respect for them after they dissed Stern. Fuck Em. |
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| sanigav |
| The merger will make Howard happy and a happy howard may bring in more pussy farters and anal ring tossers intot he studio. :nixon: |
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| SirLollipopMan |
Quote: Originally posted by ArtiesBookie
for those that havent made up their mind about the merger, here's some propaganda from the NAB camp. someone posted this chart in another thread going around and I thought it might be topically relevant here as well:
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You can call it propaganda, but it is all fact. The a la carte is a good deal if you only listen to music or only listen to talk. If you want to listen to Howard or like music and talk/sports, your price isn't going down at all.
And if you do want to take advantage of both XM and Sirius, it costs more than what you are paying now, you have to buy a new radio, and you don't really get to fully choose from both services. You still have to pick one and then you get to choose from a list of 11 stations from the other service.
The public isn't benefitting from this, it's just the rich getting richer. |
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| muerte |
| if they are going to save so much money like howie says . not having to duplicate services and beat each other over the head advertising wise. why not lower prices? |
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| BobboTheGreat |
| why can't we just pay 6.99 a month for howard |
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