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| jeepguy05 |
heard Bubba talking about the gun he carries. Pretty crazy pistol-it shoots a shortened rifle cartridge the 5.7x28 and holds up to 20 rounds in the magazine(10 round mags are available)-the gun is made by FN. Does not look that comfortable to carry concealed on your person-wonder if he carries it in a briefcase or god forbid a fanny pack lol
9mm on the left-5.7x28mm in the middle .45acp on the right
a 27 grain bullet at 1932 feet per second and a heavier 40 grain bullet at 1737 are available (this produces only 268ft lbs of energy--in contrast a standard .38 Special puts out about 210 ft lbs of energy-i guess the nice thing is you have 20 rounds to knock the guy down with lol---i'll stick with the .45 since it has more energy at 75 yards than the 5.7 has at the muzzle |
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| Scales |
The 5.7x28mm shell looks a lot more like a rifle cartridge than a standard hand gun load.
My guess is it would be more accurate, and have better balistics. More of a long range gun than most hand guns, especially a 9mm or a .45. Probably better for target shooting and messing around with, and I hope Bubba does more of that than he does shooting bad guys :)
So, yeah, it wouldn't knock a guy down as hard as the other guns you mentioned, but it could be used for longer shots if need be. And, If someone shot me, i think it would deter me no matter how small the gun. I'd be glad to not get shot at a close range with a larger calibre, and the guy doing the shooting might be glad that he didn't kill the person he shot at, just deterred him.
Is that a Czech calibre? A lot of my hand gun friends prefer Czech guns, I was actually suprised to hear Bubba mention a Glock - most of my friends seem to think they are way over rated, and only popular because of the media. |
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| jeepguy05 |
| it is a very flat shooting cartridge-being that it is derived from a rifle-and it's made by FN(Fabrique Nationale) in Belgium-they also used to manufacture firearms for Browning |
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| Max-the-Silent |
The 5.7 X 28 doesn't do anything in a handgun that a .22 magnum won't do, with the ammo available to civilians.
The round was designed to be used in FN's PDW, the P90:
http://www.fnhusa.com/products/fire...F012&gid=FNG007
Out of the 10" barrel, using the unavailable GI issue penatrating ammo, the piece has some untility. Using the civilian ammo, out of a handgun, it's not something that I would depend on.
Common handguns using issue calibers are more effective stoppers than high-velocity non-expanding micro caliber bullets. |
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| jeepguy05 |
| I agree with you on that. Maybe he liked it for a novelty purpose-just like some folks out there who buy those .500 Magnums from Smith&Wesson and never intend to hunt with it-they just want to have the newest thing on the market. Supposedly the 5.7 has very little recoil which is good for follow up shots cuz with the civilian ammo you will prob need it--also why it comes with a 20 round magazine lol. :gab: |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by jeepguy05
I agree with you on that. Maybe he liked it for a novelty purpose-just like some folks out there who buy those .500 Magnums from Smith&Wesson and never intend to hunt with it-they just want to have the newest thing on the market. Supposedly the 5.7 has very little recoil which is good for follow up shots cuz with the civilian ammo you will prob need it--also why it comes with a 20 round magazine lol. :gab: |
I've got a P90 as a T. & E. piece for the dept. and it's 100% reliable, and gets the job done. very interesting from a mechanical design pov. Other than that, it's not something that I'd recommend issuing in an LE context. Too many other choices available that get the same job done, at a lower pricepoint.
The piece (P90) was really intended to be used by semi-trained military personel. and recoil was one of the factors that the designers considered to be minimized to meet the design parameters. The short (FN57) was a follow-up project, and is more of an accessory than a primary or secondary defensive tool. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by jeepguy05
I agree with you on that. Maybe he liked it for a novelty purpose-just like some folks out there who buy those .500 Magnums from Smith&Wesson and never intend to hunt with it-they just want to have the newest thing on the market. |
A .577 T-Rex would also be fun to shoot gophers with, just sayin...
Quote: Originally posted by jeepguy05
Supposedly the 5.7 has very little recoil which is good for follow up shots cuz with the civilian ammo you will prob need it--also why it comes with a 20 round magazine lol. :gab: |
Anyone know if they make any fully automatic weapons in the same calibre? Maybe they do, maybe Bubba has a few. Sounds like a good round for a fully automtic to me. |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
A .577 T-Rex would also be fun to shoot gophers with, just sayin...
Anyone know if they make any fully automatic weapons in the same calibre ? Maybe they do, maybe Bubba has a few. Sounds like a good round for a fully automtic to me. |
Click the link in my post, above.
Machineguns manufactured after May 19, 1986, are not transferable to civilians. The P90 was not designed or manufactured until the 1990's. It's a safe bet that Bubba, even living in a NFA friendly state, doesn't own a P90.
FN makes a semi-auto carbine, the PS90, and they're available.
Here's a link, do a search for PS90:
www.gunbroker.com |
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| BLOw |
| Kind of a little gun for such a big dude! Still laughing about the thought of Bubba wearing a fanny pack. |
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| Bullitt |
| Nice gun, I just prefer a steel handgun, I do like plastic, but only in breast implants! :D :D :D |
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| jeepguy05 |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
A .577 T-Rex would also be fun to shoot gophers with, just sayin...
Anyone know if they make any fully automatic weapons in the same calibre? Maybe they do, maybe Bubba has a few. Sounds like a good round for a fully automtic to me. |
here is a video of people shooting a .577 T Rex-http://youtube.com/watch?v=-EVqT3XEzss |
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| Mutt |
great thread. thanks for the info & pics
I watched Bubba Cribs on HTV and I was really disappointed that Bubba didn't open all the gun cases when he was sitting in his gun room. really wanted to see his collection |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by Mutt
great thread. thanks for the info & pics
I watched Bubba Cribs on HTV and I was really disappointed that Bubba didn't open all the gun cases when he was sitting in his gun room. really wanted to see his collection |
Howard also mentions having quit a few guns, and it sounds like he has some pretty cool ones as wlell.
What I think would be cool, is for Bubba and Howard to bring their guns to some kind of shooting range, or Manson's property - and have a big shoot off. It would be great for Howard TV and Bubba Raw. They could bring all of the other on air staff and then them shoot the place up as well.
I can hear Robin Giggle as she blows something up with an anti aircraft weapon just thinking about it. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by TheEdge
:hw: Pussy |
You are what you eat
:hw: Hairy Asshole
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by TheEdge
Still giving up on us ???? |
Well, I'll never say never, but I'll let you guys work some major issues out of that site before I ever post there again. I can't be there in good concious man, I'm glad you can. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by TheEdge
All worked out today. All is good in the hood man. Seriously it is. I had a nice talk with him and it is going well today. |
Perhaps we should start a thread in the who gives a shit forum, to not muddy up this gun thread.
I checked out the site yesterday, and did all I could not to rip him a new asshole as I saw things just got worse and he got even more dilusional and deeper into his fantasy land. He went way over board twice in as many days, I dont think I'll ever be able to forget that shit. I'm glad you guys seem to be able to ignore it.
Unless I see a scanned prescription posted, that can help him with his issues - I'll let his day by day pschyco babbel burry him deeper without any intervention from me. I just hope he doesn't pull all of you down with him, there are a lot of great people over there, but many have been fed very cloudy versions of the truth. |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
Howard also mentions having quit a few guns, and it sounds like he has some pretty cool ones as wlell.
What I think would be cool, is for Bubba and Howard to bring their guns to some kind of shooting range, or Manson's property - and have a big shoot off. It would be great for Howard TV and Bubba Raw. They could bring all of the other on air staff and then them shoot the place up as well.
I can hear Robin Giggle as she blows something up with an anti aircraft weapon just thinking about it. |
Howard isn't a "gunman." he's stated on the show that he owns a Seecamp (.32 ACP pocket pistol) and I heard a report on one of the tabloid TV shows about celebrities w/ carry permits - they said that Howard's NYC carry permit is for a .38 revolver.
Howard has some degree of understanding of marksmanship, but my impression is that it's something in his life that he doesn't spend much time working on.
I doubt that we'll ever get a Howard TV segment with Howard on the range.
Having said all that, I'd love to give Howard a range day on me - he's made me laugh for so many years, about the only way I could ever pay him back is professional instruction and the opportunity to burn powder on my nickel - through all the goodies - NFA and otherwise - that I own or have access to. I might as well include Bubba in that too - he's hitting a pretty good average in the comedy home run derby. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
Howard isn't a "gunman." he's stated on the show that he owns a Seecamp (.32 ACP pocket pistol) and I heard a report on one of the tabloid TV shows about celebrities w/ carry permits - they said that Howard's NYC carry permit is for a .38 revolver. |
Since getting Sirius, I know I've heard him make reference to owning quite a few guns, and liking them more than twice. It is possible he said it while on Bubbas show, either in Bubba's studio or on the phone.
There was also a reference to his like of fully automatic guns, and if I'm not mistaken, he said that he should probably not talk about that... |
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| swolegunz116 |
| BUBBA NEEDS TO GET RID OF THAT 5.7 AND CARRY A .45 |
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| jeepguy05 |
Quote: Originally posted by swolegunz116
BUBBA NEEDS TO GET RID OF THAT 5.7 AND CARRY A .45 |
ya i agree with you on that--i just moved to Washington and it's a shall issue state(meaning if you have a clean background check you get a permit) and this is what i'll be carrying-a Colt Defender in .45acp |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by Scales
Since getting Sirius, I know I've heard him make reference to owning quite a few guns, and liking them more than twice. It is possible he said it while on Bubbas show, either in Bubba's studio or on the phone.
There was also a reference to his like of fully automatic guns, and if I'm not mistaken, he said that he should probably not talk about that... |
Howard has told the story about shooting an "Uzi" many times on the air. NY State isn't NFA friendly, so his experience w/ the Uzi had to come from one of three possible sources - LE, Military or a licensed manufacturer/dealer/importer (the last three unlikely imo)
Howard has also told the story of going to an outdoor range and being creeped out by all the guys "so into" their guns.
Howard's approach to life was instilled in him by his parents, they taught him that he should go to work, earn a living, and come home - outside activities were neither valued nor encouraged. Any activity that doesn't directly relate to earning a living is not understood by Howard, so I get it that he'd look at guys spending their lives at the range practicing marksmanship as being weird folk indeed. He also has the common misconception held by many urban dwellers that owning firearms and being skilled in their use is somehow a "violent" pastime and demonstrates some level of "violent" intent on behalf of the individuals in question.
In short, Howard is not a part of the "gun culture" and no matter how many firearms he may own, he'll never be a part of it. His mindset wouldn't allow him to be.
I've run into many people over the years that share his outlook on the GC, and for the most part, they're well-intentioned. Some people are willing to accept that someone like me may have need to have "all those guns," but in general they're suspicious of anyone that is "too" involved with marksmanship, or any other aspect of the GC. |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by swolegunz116
BUBBA NEEDS TO GET RID OF THAT 5.7 AND CARRY A .45 |
Bubba, or anyone else for that matter, needs to get professional instruction, and then, within reason, carry the piece that best suits him.
Here's my house short, and three of my carry guns that I've used through the years:
Clockwise from top:
First generation Glock 21, .45 w/Wilson barrel, LSP trigger assembly, Trijicon nights, add-on rail w/ surefire light.
HK P7M8 9MM
Very early Detonics Combat Master, .45
Current generation Glock 30, .45, Barsto barrel, Trijicon nights. |
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
In short, Howard is not a part of the "gun culture" and no matter how many firearms he may own, he'll never be a part of it. His mindset wouldn't allow him to be. |
You make a lot of good points, and i agree with a lot of them.
But I also have to point out what a 'flip flopper' Howard is. Listening to his views on things on Master tape theatre, and then compared to now. He was very dead set on ever getting married again, look how fast he was to do a 180 on that.
A lot of people who know me pretty well are amazed to find out how much I'm into hunting and guns. I'm a hippy who loves nature, wildlife and has a soft spot for animals. But one of those soft spots is in my stomach, and I think humanely hunting game animals is a lot less cruel to animals in general than eating meat I could buy in the store.
Sorry to get sidetracked. |
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| jeepguy05 |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
Bubba, or anyone else for that matter, needs to get professional instruction, and then, within reason, carry the piece that best suits him.
Here's my house short, and three of my carry guns that I've used through the years:
Clockwise from top:
First generation Glock 21, .45 w/Wilson barrel, LSP trigger assembly, Trijicon nights, add-on rail w/ surefire light.
HK P7M8 9MM
Very early Detonics Combat Master, .45
Current generation Glock 30, .45, Barsto barrel, Trijicon nights. |
you have a great collection there--you don't see too many Detonics at gun shows anymore-and that P7 is a great gun too |
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| redryder |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
Bubba, or anyone else for that matter, needs to get professional instruction, and then, within reason, carry the piece that best suits him.
Here's my house short, and three of my carry guns that I've used through the years:
Clockwise from top:
First generation Glock 21, .45 w/Wilson barrel, LSP trigger assembly, Trijicon nights, add-on rail w/ surefire light.
HK P7M8 9MM
Very early Detonics Combat Master, .45
Current generation Glock 30, .45, Barsto barrel, Trijicon nights. |
Glock's Rock!!!
Here are mine. Ruger 44 mag. Super Blackhawk, Glock 30 and Cobra Ind. 38spl
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| jeepguy05 |
| love the Super Blackhawk you have--i'm a big Ruger fan- i own a Vaquero in .45 LC and a old model Blackhawk in .41 mag that is one of the flattest shooting handguns I've ever owned. I also have a Ruger Mini-14 that is lots of fun to shoot |
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| Max-the-Silent |
I dig Rugers, and Colt SAA's:
From the top:
1st generation Colt SAA in .45, 7 1/2" barrel. One piece walnut grips hand-checkered by my father. The gun has been in the family since before WWII.
Ruger Super Blackhawk Flat-top 3 screw in .44 Magnum. 7 1/2" barrel. One of a consecutive serial number pair. I gave the other to my BIL. As NIB.
Ruger Balackhawk in .45 Long Colt, w/ conversion cylinder in .45 ACP. 4 3/4" Barrel. Tuned and built for me by Hamilton Bowen. Real pre-import ban Ivory stocks. |
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| redryder |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
I dig Rugers, and Colt SAA's:
From the top:
1st generation Colt SAA in .45, 7 1/2" barrel. One piece walnut grips hand-checkered by my father. The gun has been in the family since before WWII.
Ruger Super Blackhawk Flat-top 3 screw in .44 Magnum. 7 1/2" barrel. One of a consecutive serial number pair. I gave the other to my BIL. As NIB.
Ruger Balackhawk in .45 Long Colt, w/ conversion cylinder in .45 ACP. 4 3/4" Barrel. Tuned and built for me by Hamilton Bowen. Real pre-import ban Ivory stocks. |
NICE !!!I like the wood grips but my hands are to big for them so I got the bigger grip , I take it to the range quite a bit. |
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| Deathshead |
| I'll stick with my Glock thanks |
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| jeepguy05 |
| I have a polymer pistol-a Ruger P95DC in 9mm and it's a great gun--in over 3000 rounds it has never jammed--but I still like my single action revolvers more-i know im old fashioned that way--i've carried my Ruger Vaquero in .45 Colt many times and felt very confident that I could handle any situation that would come along. The 250 grain bullet it uses packs a punch. |
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| WillowGlen |
| You guys are missing the point of the selection. Its the same make and model Hootie carries. |
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| jeepguy05 |
Quote: Originally posted by WillowGlen
You guys are missing the point of the selection. Its the same make and model Hootie carries. |
ah well that would make sense--and Hootie DOES have that big ass fanny pack-bet thats where he carries it cuz that shark fin front sight looks like it could cut the shit out of you if you draw it from a holster wrong lol |
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| WillieJones |
Wow you guys are a little too into your guns... FREAKS!!!
<----- Headz for ze hillz... |
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| jeepguy05 |
I have no probelem with you not wanting to own a gun-thats your right--just don't cry when the day comes and you need one--maybe you can wait 10 minutes after dialing 911 for the cops to come bail you out of trouble, cuz by the time they get there you will be assraped or dead :D
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| McLeanMike |
| USP 45 for life! |
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