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| artechba |
If people like Lincoln, T.R., FDR and Eisenhower ran for President today, they wouldn't even be able to get a party nomination. They would make fun of Lincoln's beard, height, wife, T.R. would be smeared by some "Spanish War Swift Boat Vets" group, FDR for his "liburl" views and Eisenhower probably ridiculed by religious right. The same probably goes for other great presidents like Reagan and Truman.
News Cable Networks killed our political system. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
"other great presidents like Reagan"
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If you weren't a vet, you should probably be digging a fox hole right now... And quickly!
:D
(I liked Reagan but well, you'll see...)
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| IWannaBangBiel |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
other great presidents like Reagan |
"Great"? Seriously?! |
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| Rike |
| we believe reagan was a nazi on this forum. |
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| artechba |
| Come on now. Reagan was not that bad of a President. He had his flaws yes but so did my favorite. I would take Reagan over any Republican candidates right now. |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
Come on now. Reagan was not that bad of a President. He had his flaws yes but so did my favorite. I would take Reagan over any Republican candidates right now. |
Unfortunately, our beloved President Reagan was the one who began the dismantling of the middle-class in America.
Other than that, he was OK. :) |
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| Ass Boil |
I hope rats have burrowed into Reagan's casket and chewed up what is left of his stupid, carcass.
But compared to this current group, he was an angel.
We are seeing the most corrupt, most incompetent administration in the history of this great country. |
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| fatboy |
| Reagan was willfully stupid. After the assassination attempt Bush41 took control of his administration. Reagan was Bush43-like in that he was a useful idiot. |
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| zimmie |
Ronald Reagan
A man of principle, honest, who loved America...Of course those are characteristics many here would find distasteful. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
Ronald Reagan
A man of principle, honest, who loved America...Of course those are characteristics many here would find distasteful. |
You-->>
REAGAN LIE DETECTOR
Reagan conducted one of the most absurd invasions of American history, targetting the tiny island of Grenada.
As president of the Screen Actors Guild, Ronald Reagan informed on fellow actors to the FBI.
The Reagan admininstration was one of the most corrupt in American history, including by one estimate 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. By comparison 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned.
Using a looser standard that included resignations, David R. Simon and D. Stanley Eitzen in Elite Deviance, say that 138 appointees of the Reagan administration either resigned under an ethical cloud or were criminally indicted. Curiously Haynes Johnson uses the same figure but with a different standard in "Sleep-Walking Through History: America in the Reagan Years: "By the end of his term, 138 administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations."
Four members of the Reagan cabinet came under criminal investiation, as compared with five in the Clinton cabinet. Three top officials of the Harding administration were in indicted in the Teapot Dome scandal.
The Reagan administration had secret plans for an unconstitutional takeover of the federal government under an ill-defined national emergency. Members of the government created by the coup had been selected and included Richard Cheney.
Reagan's decision to send troops to Lebanon cost 241 lives. As the NY Times noted recently, "Mr. Reagan's decision to send marines to Lebanon was disastrous and his invasion of Grenada pure melodrama."
During the Reagan administration the number of families living below the poverty line increased by one-third.
Reagan's policies led to the greatest financial scandal in American history: the Savings & Loan debacle which cost taxpayers billions of dollars.
Julian Bond, president of the NAACP: "He was a polarizing figure in black America. He was hostile to the generally accepted remedies for discrimination. His appointments were of people as equally hostile. I can't think of any Reagan policy that African Americans would embrace."
Reagan made major cuts in Medicaid, food stamps, aid to families with dependent children, and school lunch programs.
Reagan fired 13,000 air traffic controllers in a devasting blow to government union members from which the labor movement never recovered.
Washington Post: "Reagan, during his 1980 campaign, blamed trees for emitting 93 percent of the nation's nitrogen oxide pollution -- giving rise to jokes about 'killer trees.'"
The national debt tripled under Reagan
The AIDS crisis exploded (with 20,000 deaths) before Reagan could even bring himself to address the issue six years later. In his authorized biography he is quoted as saying that "maybe the Lord brought down this plague," because "illicit sex is against the Ten Commandments."
Washington Post: "The administration in 1984 secretly sold arms to Iran -- which the United States considered a supporter of terrorism -- to raise cash for Nicaraguan contra rebels, despite a congressional ban on support for the Latin American insurgency. An independent investigation concluded that the arms sales to Iran operations "were carried out with the knowledge of, among others, President Ronald Reagan [and] Vice President George Bush," and that "large volumes of highly relevant, contemporaneously created documents were systematically and willfully withheld from investigators by several Reagan Administration officials." . . . Lawrence E. Walsh, the independent counsel who ran the inquiry, said there was "no credible evidence" that Reagan broke the law, but he set the stage for the illegal activities of others. Impeachment, Walsh said, "certainly should have been considered."
His administration was responsible for numerous brutal actions in Latin America, including massacres in El Salvador and the war against Nicaragua.
The claim that Reagan won the Cold War is pure rightwing propaganda. The Soviet Union had long been far weaker than many American leaders knew, or wished to acknowledge, thanks to CIA gross overestimates of its economy. The Soviet Union was brought down by a number of factors including the inherent weaknesses of dictatorship and ethnic divides that eventually forced its breakup.
William Blum: "[George Kennan], the former US ambassador to the Soviet Union, and father of the theory of 'containment' of the same country, asserts that 'the suggestion that any United States administration had the power to influence decisively the course of a tremendous domestic political upheaval in another great country on another side of the globe is simply childish.' He contends that the extreme militarization of American policy strengthened hard-liners in the Soviet Union. 'Thus the general effect of Cold War extremism was to delay rather than hasten the great change that overtook the Soviet Union.'"
After a major tax cut, there was a long recession and unemployment that hit ten percent.
Bill Press - "It was Reagan who first proposed a missile defense system -- immediately dubbed "Star Wars" by skeptical reporters -- in a March 23, 1983 speech from the Oval Office. However, as Frances Fitzgerald reveals in her brilliant history "Way Out There in the Blue," Reagan didn't get his plan from the scientists or the generals. The Pentagon wasn't even notified of his speech ahead of time. Reagan stole Star Wars directly from -- the movies.
In 1940, appearing in the Warner Brothers thriller "Murder in the Air," Reagan played an American secret agent charged with protecting a super weapon that could strike all enemy planes from the air. Seed planted in Reagan's brain. Then in 1966, Alfred Hitchcock released a Reagan favorite, "Torn Curtain," in which American agent Paul Newman works on developing an anti-missile missile. In words that must have made Ronnie tingle, Newman's character asserts: "We will produce a defensive weapon that will make all nuclear weapons obsolete, and thereby abolish the terror of nuclear warfare." Sound familiar? Reagan used almost the exact words in selling missile defense from the office, 17 years later. |
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| JTProcess |
| "conservatives are so gay for reagan they need to name an airport after him so they can say ... "I'm coming into Regan!!" |
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| Ass Boil |
 
End of story. |
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| iatebethO |
[QUOTE=artechba]
News Cable Networks killed our political system.
[/QUOTE
I'm the Slime
I am gross and perverted
I'm obsessed 'n deranged
I have existed for years
But very little has changed
I'm the tool of the Government
And industry too
For I am destined to rule
And regulate you
I may be vile and pernicious
But you can't look away
I make you think I'm delicious
With the stuff that I say
I'm the best you can get
Have you guessed me yet?
I'm the slime oozin' out
From your TV set
You will obey me while I lead you
And eat the garbage that I feed you
Until the day that we don't need you
Don't go for help . . . no one will heed you
Your mind is totally controlled
It has been stuffed into my mold
And you will do as you are told
Until the rights to you are sold
That's right, folks . . .
Don't touch that dial
Well, I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
I am the slime from your video
Oozin' along on your livin' room floor
I am the slime from your video
Can't stop the slime, people, lookit me go
Frank Zappa |
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| NC-Stern-Mark |
Quote: Originally posted by JTProcess
"conservatives are so gay for reagan they need to name an airport after him so they can say ... "I'm coming into Regan!!" |
:lol: :rofl: :lol: |
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