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hingefactor
Has anybody in the NY area seen the headlines denouncing the Iranian presidents upcoming visit and debate at Columbia University?
While i'm no fan of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, his main agenda in the world appears to be putting an end to Israel.
So, all these NY news organizations are denouncing him, but honestly...Israel is also a terrorist nation.
Israel was stolen from the Palestinians, Israel attacks and kills Palestinians, and the Israelis go into neighboring countries and attack as well.
When is this country going to stand up to Israel instead of kissing their assess?
fatboy
Why do you believe Zionist horseshit? Ahmadinejad hasn't done JACK FUCKING SHIT to the USA, and that "wiped off the map" ***LIE*** has been thoroughly debunked. But the MSM, being heavily Zionist, propagates the lie.

Tell me, what, exactly, has the President of Iran ever done to the USA to deserve our enmity? Take your time and provide a reasoned, considered answer.

"BECAUSE ISRAEL DOESN'T LIKE HIM!" So, you do what the Zionists tell you and you believe what the Zionists tell you to believe? Without question?
Luther
Israel is an overseas military outpost of the United States.
hingefactor
Our support of Israel causes middle eastern countries to hate us because they have legitiment issues with Israel
Stonewall
Quote: Originally posted by fatboy
Why do you believe Zionist horseshit? Ahmadinejad hasn't done JACK FUCKING SHIT to the USA, and that "wiped off the map" ***LIE*** has been thoroughly debunked. But the MSM, being heavily Zionist, propagates the lie.

Tell me, what, exactly, has the President of Iran ever done to the USA to deserve our enmity? Take your time and provide a reasoned, considered answer.

"BECAUSE ISRAEL DOESN'T LIKE HIM!" So, you do what the Zionists tell you and you believe what the Zionists tell you to believe? Without question?



I'm not sure it has been debunked.

Just How Far Did They Go, Those Words Against Israel?

Reading that article from the NY Times, it would seem the original reporting was correct.
mingmen
:munch:
Jeton
Quote: Originally posted by Luther
Israel is an overseas military outpost of the United States.



:( if only...Israel is a seperate nation with it's own agenda that it's happy to conflate with the USA's. US military outposts don't sell US nuclear and other military secrets to US enemies like Russia and China in exchange for some ethnic subset being allowed to emigrate to that outpost. Israel did that, in gross disregard for US security.
Stonewall
Quote: Originally posted by Jeton
:( if only...Israel is a seperate nation with it's own agenda that it's happy to conflate with the USA's. US military outposts don't sell US nuclear and other military secrets to US enemies like Russia and China in exchange for some ethnic subset being allowed to emigrate to that outpost. Israel did that, in gross disregard for US security.



So, what does this mean as far as the topic of the thread?
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by fatboy
Why do you believe Zionist horseshit? Ahmadinejad hasn't done JACK FUCKING SHIT to the USA.

Tell me, what, exactly, has the President of Iran ever done to the USA to deserve our enmity? Take your time and provide a reasoned, considered answer.

"BECAUSE ISRAEL DOESN'T LIKE HIM!" So, you do what the Zionists tell you and you believe what the Zionists tell you to believe? Without question?


Can you explain this?

U.S. commander: Iran supplying Taliban

top American commander on Friday accused Iran of supplying powerful roadside bombs to militants in Afghanistan and said the U.S. would "act decisively" if the cross-border flow continues.

Heavy battles in the violence-plagued south, meanwhile, killed 75 Taliban and at least six civilians, and a suicide car bomb in the capital killed a French soldier and an Afghan bystander.

Adm. William Fallon, the head of U.S. Central Command, said Iran's Revolutionary Guard is supplying roadside bomb parts for the type of sophisticated and deadly bombs found in Iraq known as explosively formed penetrators.

"The Iranians are clearly supplying some amount of lethal aid," Fallon told The Associated Press during a trip to Afghanistan. "There is no doubt ... that agents from Iran are involved in aiding the insurgency."

Fallon said the U.S. was carefully watching the flow of weapons from Iran and said the U.S. would "act decisively" if the cross-border flow continues. His comments were not meant as a threat of military action against Iran but a suggestion that border interdiction efforts may need to be increased, Fallon's aides said later.

Iran has denied that it is supplying arms to fighters in Afghanistan.

Fallon said Iran is also providing development assistance in western Afghanistan, which he labeled as helpful, and said its activities inside its eastern neighbor are meant to ensure that Iran has a role in the region's politics.

"And I think they put a priority on causing us as much frustration as they can," he said. "I think it's all aimed at embarrassing us and one of their long-standing aims is getting us out of the region."

NATO's International Security Assistance Force has said that three shipments of weapons emanating from Iran have been intercepted in Afghanistan since April. The latest was discovered in the western province of Farah on Sept. 6.

NATO's top commander here, U.S. Gen. Dan McNeill, told The Washington Post in a story published Friday that the Sept. 6 shipment likely was sent into Afghanistan with the knowledge of Iran's Republican Guard and possibly the Quds Force, the country's elite covert military arm.

U.S. military leaders have long said that Iran is supplying weapons to militants in Iraq that are used against U.S. forces there.

Afghanistan has seen its heaviest fighting this year since the ouster of Taliban regime in 2001. More than 4,400 people have died in insurgency-related violence around the country, according to an Associated Press count based on official figures.

Friday's bomb attack in western Kabul was directed against a convoy of French troops traveling in armored vehicles. It killed one soldier and an Afghan civilian and wounded many other Afghans, hospital and NATO officials said. The blast blew the windows out of a civilian bus and set at least one vehicle on fire.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy condemned the attack as "cowardly and odious."

"More than ever, I remain determined to pursue the fight against terrorism," he said.

Heavy fighting in the south, meanwhile, killed about 75 Taliban militants in the last 48 hours, the U.S.-led coalition said.

On Wednesday, NATO launched a new operation in Helmand province, the world's largest poppy-growing region, which has seen the heaviest fighting in Afghanistan this year.

Airstrikes were called in against "anti-coalition militants" in the Garmsir district early Friday, killing about 40 fighters, the coalition said. Soldiers found more than 20 rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and land mines in the militants' compound, it said.

Six civilians, including women and children, died in a separate battle in Helmand province's Gereshk region on Wednesday after Taliban militants fled fighting with NATO forces and sought shelter in the civilians' homes, said Gereshk district chief Abdul Manaf Khan.

NATO said there were "a number" of civilian casualties caused by the fighting.

Taliban fighters attacked coalition forces from a housing compound that was later targeted in an airstrike. NATO said it was "unaware" civilians were in the area.

Civilians deaths from U.S. and NATO military action have become a major issue in Afghanistan this year. President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly pleaded with international forces to halt such casualties.

Afghan civilian deaths have declined since several incidents earlier in the summer. Wednesday's deaths appear to be the first since early August.

In another newly reported battle, more than three dozen Taliban fighters were reported killed in a clash Wednesday in Uruzgan province, the coalition said.

The spike in violence came as Afghans marked the U.N.-backed International Day of Peace on Friday. Marches and celebrations were held around the country, and U.N. spokesman Adrian Edwards called the numbers of Afghans participating "remarkable."

"I think there are two very different stories going on here. One is about peace, one is about conflict," he said. "We've never seen anything like this (interest level) before."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070921..._as/afghanistan
Stonewall
VacateTheWord,

It is very popular today to pick up and Parrot the talking points of the enemy...

If we just give up the Jews, things will be fine.
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
VacateTheWord,

It is very popular today to pick up and Parrot the talking points of the enemy...

If we just give up the Jews, things will be fine.


True.

The galling part, to me, is that people are actually buying into Ahmadinejad's horsehit about how the days of bombs and war are over (remember his "letter" to President Bush?) and that his words are misinterpreted and he means the state of Israel no harm.
Actually, it's quite scary.

Take the Columbia University thing. A few months ago the head of the Minutemen (the group that patrols the US/Mexico border) went to speak at Columbia and the far-left loons rushed the stage, ended the program and ran him off campus. It will be interesting to see how they treat Mr. "Wipe Israel off the map."
hingefactor
Good point, but, the USA has also done similar supplying.

Quote: Originally posted by VacateTheWord
Can you explain this?

U.S. commander: Iran supplying Taliban

top American commander on Friday accused Iran of supplying powerful roadside bombs to militants in Afghanistan and said the U.S. would "act decisively" if the cross-border flow continues.

Heavy battles in the violence-plagued south, meanwhile, killed 75 Taliban and at least six civilians, and a suicide car bomb in the capital killed a French soldier and an Afghan bystander.

Adm. William Fallon, the head of U.S. Central Command, said Iran's Revolutionary Guard is supplying roadside bomb parts for the type of sophisticated and deadly bombs found in Iraq known as explosively formed penetrators.

"The Iranians are clearly supplying some amount of lethal aid," Fallon told The Associated Press during a trip to Afghanistan. "There is no doubt ... that agents from Iran are involved in aiding the insurgency."

Fallon said the U.S. was carefully watching the flow of weapons from Iran and said the U.S. would "act decisively" if the cross-border flow continues. His comments were not meant as a threat of military action against Iran but a suggestion that border interdiction efforts may need to be increased, Fallon's aides said later.

Iran has denied that it is supplying arms to fighters in Afghanistan.

Fallon said Iran is also providing development assistance in western Afghanistan, which he labeled as helpful, and said its activities inside its eastern neighbor are meant to ensure that Iran has a role in the region's politics.

"And I think they put a priority on causing us as much frustration as they can," he said. "I think it's all aimed at embarrassing us and one of their long-standing aims is getting us out of the region."

NATO's International Security Assistance Force has said that three shipments of weapons emanating from Iran have been intercepted in Afghanistan since April. The latest was discovered in the western province of Farah on Sept. 6.

NATO's top commander here, U.S. Gen. Dan McNeill, told The Washington Post in a story published Friday that the Sept. 6 shipment likely was sent into Afghanistan with the knowledge of Iran's Republican Guard and possibly the Quds Force, the country's elite covert military arm.

U.S. military leaders have long said that Iran is supplying weapons to militants in Iraq that are used against U.S. forces there.

Afghanistan has seen its heaviest fighting this year since the ouster of Taliban regime in 2001. More than 4,400 people have died in insurgency-related violence around the country, according to an Associated Press count based on official figures.

Friday's bomb attack in western Kabul was directed against a convoy of French troops traveling in armored vehicles. It killed one soldier and an Afghan civilian and wounded many other Afghans, hospital and NATO officials said. The blast blew the windows out of a civilian bus and set at least one vehicle on fire.

French President Nicolas Sarkozy condemned the attack as "cowardly and odious."

"More than ever, I remain determined to pursue the fight against terrorism," he said.

Heavy fighting in the south, meanwhile, killed about 75 Taliban militants in the last 48 hours, the U.S.-led coalition said.

On Wednesday, NATO launched a new operation in Helmand province, the world's largest poppy-growing region, which has seen the heaviest fighting in Afghanistan this year.

Airstrikes were called in against "anti-coalition militants" in the Garmsir district early Friday, killing about 40 fighters, the coalition said. Soldiers found more than 20 rocket-propelled grenades, ammunition and land mines in the militants' compound, it said.

Six civilians, including women and children, died in a separate battle in Helmand province's Gereshk region on Wednesday after Taliban militants fled fighting with NATO forces and sought shelter in the civilians' homes, said Gereshk district chief Abdul Manaf Khan.

NATO said there were "a number" of civilian casualties caused by the fighting.

Taliban fighters attacked coalition forces from a housing compound that was later targeted in an airstrike. NATO said it was "unaware" civilians were in the area.

Civilians deaths from U.S. and NATO military action have become a major issue in Afghanistan this year. President Hamid Karzai has repeatedly pleaded with international forces to halt such casualties.

Afghan civilian deaths have declined since several incidents earlier in the summer. Wednesday's deaths appear to be the first since early August.

In another newly reported battle, more than three dozen Taliban fighters were reported killed in a clash Wednesday in Uruzgan province, the coalition said.

The spike in violence came as Afghans marked the U.N.-backed International Day of Peace on Friday. Marches and celebrations were held around the country, and U.N. spokesman Adrian Edwards called the numbers of Afghans participating "remarkable."

"I think there are two very different stories going on here. One is about peace, one is about conflict," he said. "We've never seen anything like this (interest level) before."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070921..._as/afghanistan
VacateTheWord
Quote: Originally posted by hingefactor
Good point, but, the USA has also done similar supplying.


In the past, yes, the United States has...especially during the Cold War.

This is merely to refute the growing belief in far-left circles that Iran is a benign country that only wants peace and, as FatBoy claimed, never did "jack shit to the US." It's just not true. There are many good reasons why Iran is #1 on the State Department's list of state-sponsors of terror.

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