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| Ned'sTesticles |
I'm just baiting Rob into giving us some analysis on UFC 76. The obvious draws are of course, Liddell vs. Jardine and Shogun vs. Griffin.... but I'm REALLY looking forward to Sanchez/Fitch and Nakamura/Machida.... I'm hoping that Fitch will embarrass Sanchez and hand him his 2nd loss in a row. Fitch is FOR REAL!!! Also, Nakamura and Machida aren't known very well at all in the states, but are both VERY accomplished overseas. Machida has some impressive wins and is still undefeated. Here's his record;
Result Opponent Method Event Title
Win David Heath Decision (Unanimous) UFC 70 - Nations Collide
Win Sam Hoger Decision (Unanimous) UFC 67 - All or Nothing
Win Vernon White Decision (Unanimous) WFA - King of the Streets
Win Dimitri Wanderley TKO JF 6 - Jungle Fight 6
Win B.J. Penn Decision (Unanimous) K-1 - Hero's
Win Sam Greco Decision (Split) K-1 MMA - ROMANEX
Win Michael McDonald Submission (Guillotine Choke) K-1 - Beast 2004
Win Rich Franklin TKO (Punches) Inoki Bom-Ba-Ye 2003 - Inoki Festival
Win Stephan Bonnar TKO (Cut) JF 1 - Jungle Fight 1
Win Kengo Watanabe Decision (Unanimous) NJPW - Ultimate Crush
And here's Nakamura's record... been through alotta wars with some big names;
Result Opponent Method Event Title
Loss Mauricio Rua Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Shockwave 2006
Win Travis Galbraith TKO (Strikes) PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal
Win Yoshihiro Nakao Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Final Conflict Absolute
Win Evangelista Santos Submission (Keylock) PRIDE - Critical Coutdown Absolute
Loss Josh Barnett Submission (Rear Naked Choke) PRIDE 31 - Dreamers
Win Yuki Kondo Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Shockwave 2005
Win Igor Vovchanchyn Decision (Unaminous) PRIDE - Final Conflict 2005
Loss Wanderlei Silva TKO (Strikes) PRIDE - Critical Countdown 2005
Win Kevin Randleman Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Total Elimination 2005
Win Stefan Leko TKO (Strikes) PRIDE 29 - Fists Of Fire
Loss Dan Henderson TKO (Injury) PRIDE 28 - High Octane
Win Murilo Bustamante Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Final Conflict 2004
Loss Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Decision (Split) PRIDE - Bushido 4
Win Chalid Arrab Submission (Armbar) PRIDE - Bushido 3
Win Dos Caras Jr. Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE 27 - Inferno
Win Daniel Gracie Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Bushido 1
Loss Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Submission (Armbar) PRIDE 25 - Body Blow
AND... last but certainly not least... since Shogun is new to alot of the UFC audience, here's a peak at what makes him such a BIG fucking deal. Check the record and you'll understand :)
Win Alistair Overeem KO (Punches) PRIDE 33 - Second Coming
Win Kazuhiro Nakamura Decision (Unanimous) PRIDE - Shockwave 2006
Win Kevin Randleman Submission (Kneebar) PRIDE 32 - The Real Deal
Win Cyrille Diabate TKO (Stomps) PRIDE - Final Conflict Absolute
Loss Mark Coleman TKO (Broken Arm) PRIDE 31 - Dreamers
Win Ricardo Arona KO (Strikes) PRIDE - Final Conflict 2005
Win Alistair Overeem TKO (Strikes) PRIDE - Final Conflict 2005
Win Antonio Rogerio Nogueira Decision (Unaminous) PRIDE - Critical Countdown 2005
Win Quinton Jackson KO (Strikes) PRIDE - Total Elimination 2005
Win Hiromitsu Kanehara TKO (Stomp) PRIDE 29 - Fists Of Fire
Win Yasuhito Namekawa TKO (Punches) PRIDE - Bushido 5
Win Akihiro Gono TKO (Strikes) PRIDE - Bushido 2
Win Akira Shoji KO PRIDE - Bushido 1
Loss Renato Sobral Submission (Guillotine Choke) IFC - Global Domination
Win Eric Wanderlei TKO (Punches) IFC - Global Domination
Win Evangelista Santos TKO (Punches) Meca 9 - Meca World Vale Tudo 9
Win Angelo Antonio TKO (Soccer Kicks) Meca 8 - Meca World Vale Tudo 8
Win Rafael Capoeira KO (Kick) Meca 7 - Meca World Vale Tudo 7 |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Here's a breakdown of the entire card for tomorrow night;
 
Chuck Liddell Vs. Keith Jardine
Name: Chuck Liddell
Height: 6' 2" (188 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 20-4-0
Name: Keith Jardine
Height: 6' 2" (188 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 12-4-1
 
Mauricio Rua Vs. Forrest Griffin
Name: Mauricio Rua
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 16-2-0
Name: Forrest Griffin
Height: 6' 3" (191 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 14-4-0
 
Jon Fitch Vs. Diego Sanchez
Name: Jon Fitch
Height: 6' 0" (183 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 19-2-1
Name: Diego Sanchez
Height: 5' 11" (180 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 19-1-0
 
Kazuhiro Nakamura Vs. Lyoto Machida
Name: Kazuhiro Nakamura
Height: 5' 10" (178 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 11-6-0
Name: Lyoto Machida
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 205 (93 kg)
Record: 10-0-0
 
Thiago Tavares Vs. Tyson Griffin
Name: Thiago Tavares
Height: 5' 7" (170 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 16-0-0
Name: Tyson Griffin
Height: 5' 6" (168 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 9-1-0
Anthony Johnson Vs. Rich Clementi
Name: Anthony Johnson
Height: 6' 2" (188 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 4-0-0
Name: Rich Clementi
Height: 5' 9" (175 cm)
Weight: 170 (77 kg)
Record: 35-12-1
May not be broadcast:
Diego Saraiva Vs. Jeremy Stephens
Name: Diego Saraiva
Height: 5' 6" (168 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 9-5-1
Name: Jeremy Stephens
Height: 5' 9" (175 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 13-2-0
Scott Junk Vs. Christian Wellisch
Name: Scott Junk
Height: 6' 1" (185 cm)
Weight: 265 (120 kg)
Record: 6-1-0
Name: Christian Wellisch
Height: 6' 3" (191 cm)
Weight: 237 (108 kg)
Record: 8-2-0
Michihiro Omigawa Vs. Matt Wiman
Name: Michihiro Omigawa
Height: 5' 6" (168 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 4-4-0
Name: Matt Wiman
Height: 5' 10" (178 cm)
Weight: 155 (70 kg)
Record: 7-3-0 |
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| Jaeger |
| I'd step in here and give you all the winners, but I don't want to ruin the show for people who are going to spend their hard earned money on it. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
I'd step in here and give you all the winners, but I don't want to ruin the show for people who are going to spend their hard earned money on it. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
War Shogun!!!!!
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| Krypts |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
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haha that rocks |
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| Rob Kahn |
im leaning to chuck in this one. jardine is a live underdog though.
fitch beats diego in the fight of the night. i cant wait for this one
machida vs nak is alos a great fight. machida is to talented though
do not go to the fridge in the shogun fight, he wont be in the ring too long, griffin is taylor made for him! |
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| Jaeger |
OK Well if Rob did the top of the card. I'll do the bottom.
Thiago Tavares Vs. Tyson Griffin
Tavares is coming off a very impressive victory over Jason Black. This kid has SICK ground skills.
Griffin is coming off a Bisping like decision over Clay Guida.
I wish BlueGraysky was here for this one.
I'm taking Tavares with the big win. ( for those who are interested Tavares is +165 and the best bet of the night imo)
Anthony Johnson Vs. Rich Clementi
Clementi breaks my heart every time I pick him. He has a HUGE advantage in experience and honestly If I couild watch the first minute of this fight before I pick I'd feel better.
If Clementi is active he will win easily. If not he will be another blemish on my rather impressive record.
Winner Clementi
Diego Saraiva Vs. Jeremy Stephens
Stephens
Scott Junk Vs. Christian Wellisch
Wellish
Michihiro Omigawa Vs. Matt Wiman
I love Club/Deep and Omigawa started to pull it together prior to coming to the UFC.
Wiman has been up and down as his competion got better. ( Spencer Fisher knee to the face) but is coming off a victory...........
I'll take Omigawa in this one despite my better judgment. |
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| Rob Kahn |
| i agree with the tavares pick. that kid is a stud |
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| CHU |
This is late, but I finally saw Gray Maynard's knockout in 9 seconds on Wednesday (awesome). I thought he was going to win TUF 5, so much that I bet on him online prior to the season. Good thing he didn't slam his head into the canvas like he did against Rob Emerson (although his reaction during the decision was priceless).
- Chuck
- Shogun
- Diego Sanchez |
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| Redneck Ron |
| Jardine is no match for Liddel. Dana White is giving Chuck an easy opponent to put him back in line for a title shot. Chuck will KO Jardine in the first round. |
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| pokerstar |
| chuck will kick some ass |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
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| greddy10 |
| Will this be the viewing thread also:? |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
Will this be the viewing thread also:? |
sure... I'm hoping to be posting during the event. I usually try to stay away from getting preoccupied during the fights, but I'll try my damnedest. :) |
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| Jeton |
Liddel
Shogun
Sanchez
Machida
Griffin---Tyson, with an ass so sweet even Rogan had to comment "that's some serious badonka-donk!"
gonna ctahc this at Hurley's with the ferral crew tonite...:hw: |
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| Jeton |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
I'd step in here and give you all the winners, but I don't want to ruin the show for people who are going to spend their hard earned money on it. |
:whistle: didnt u ignore me and pick Mirko over Gonzaga months back? |
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| Slayer |
| I just hope Sanchez gets his ass kicked, he's an annoying fuck. I was so glad he lost to Koscheck. :p |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by Slayer
I just hope Sanchez gets his ass kicked, he's an annoying fuck. I was so glad he lost to Koscheck. :p |
fuckin' right... Fitch has the game to tool him, especially now since Diego has gotten his lil ego bruised. It'll be a great fight regardless. |
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| Heatherwiz |
Quote: Originally posted by Jeton
:whistle: didnt u ignore me and pick Mirko over Gonzaga months back? |
Jaeger has since learned not to do that. Sadly.
Mirko is still my crush, but I hope he just quietly retires at this point. Hard to see a legend not perform anymore. :( |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by Heatherwiz
Jaeger has since learned not to do that. Sadly.
Mirko is still my crush, but I hope he just quietly retires at this point. Hard to see a legend not perform anymore. :( |
Agreed :( |
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| DiZZLe *FTE* |
sorry if it's a lil off topic but does anyone know where I could find a legit ju-jitzu (sp?) school around the San Bernardino, Ca area? Or anyone know a website that could point me in the right direction? Fuck, sorry if I sound like a doosh but I need to lose some god damn weight and I'm sick and fucking tired of doing nothing all day. I was a wrester in HS and really miss it.
Oh and Rob, you're the shit bro. Love ya. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by DiZZLe *FTE*
sorry if it's a lil off topic but does anyone know where I could find a legit ju-jitzu (sp?) school around the San Bernardino, Ca area? Or anyone know a website that could point me in the right direction? Fuck, sorry if I sound like a doosh but I need to lose some god damn weight and I'm sick and fucking tired of doing nothing all day. I was a wrester in HS and really miss it.
Oh and Rob, you're the shit bro. Love ya. |
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Here ya go brother... http://www.fightresource.com/viewsc...A&go=1&state=CA .. that's a directory of alot of the more prominent schools in Cali. Hope you can find one nearby ya. And don't ever let anybody tell ya that BJJ isn't a great cardio workout... it'll do the job :cool: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| Shit... actually you've got Brian Warren right there in town. His gym is called "Unbreakable Gym", here's the link, http://www.unbreakablegym.com/ ... the only thing is, it looks as if it's a pretty religious group. That wouldn't necessarily be for me, but if you're comfortable with that, it would be a great place to train in my opinion... Better ask Rob though to get his guidance, he'll steer ya in the right direction ;) |
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| egajdzis |
Stoked for the fights tonight, does anyone have a link to an online feed? I know in the past there's been someone...
-E |
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| DiZZLe *FTE* |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
Shit... actually you've got Brian Warren right there in town. His gym is called "Unbreakable Gym", here's the link, http://www.unbreakablegym.com/ ... the only thing is, it looks as if it's a pretty religious group. That wouldn't necessarily be for me, but if you're comfortable with that, it would be a great place to train in my opinion... Better ask Rob though to get his guidance, he'll steer ya in the right direction ;) |
Thanks. I didn't even know Warren even lived or trained near me!!! Great. I'll give him a call on monday. It sounds like a great gym though. I was never really too religious though, I hope that's not a problem with Brian. Although I have been thinking about going back to church a lil more often because of my fiance's dad dying suddenly a few months back. It'll make her feel better. Plus, I usually feel good after waking up at 6am on sundays, going to church early, then hittin the couch for the rest of the day watching my Chargers play and the rest of the filler games. lol. But thanks alot!!!
Oh, and btw, besides this 30 minute post thing sucking ass, I'm so freaking glad you got your dog back man! I lost my dog a while ago. He ended up in my neighbors pool STILL ALIVE!!! He was in the pool overnight and was grasping to life on the deep end step believe it or not. That dog was amazing. Plus, when all this happened he was 14! he's gone now, his kidney ended up failing him but I know how you felt. |
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| Jeton |
Quote: Originally posted by Heatherwiz
Jaeger has since learned not to do that. Sadly.
Mirko is still my crush, but I hope he just quietly retires at this point. Hard to see a legend not perform anymore. :( |
:console: if CHRIS FUKN LEBEN can come back after a couple of losses, i say magic-thighs-Mirko can...but if he loses his next...:bigdown: |
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| Matacojudos |
| Mirko should retire to a brothel, like Mike tyson. |
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| snapper2321 |
| cant wait to watche em get it on!!! already got it cued up online!!!Sopcast rules!!! |
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| egajdzis |
Quote: Originally posted by snapper2321
cant wait to watche em get it on!!! already got it cued up online!!!Sopcast rules!!! |
What channel on sopcast? |
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| nedmark61 |
| is it easy 2 use sopcast?? |
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| DiZZLe *FTE* |
Quote: Originally posted by Matacojudos
Mirko should retire to a brothel, like Mike tyson. |
Remember, Mirko has SO many miles on him. He went through all the military training and was apart of the hardcore fighting which was PRIDE. He was an absolute star in Japan and he was pressured to fight A LOT of fights. The guy is a freak of nature but the man needs a rest. He should rest a year and recover just to get his body and head strait, then come back to the bubbagon....i mean octagon and whoop some ass! |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| I got nothing here... fucking Comcast CUNTS!!!!.... I could fucking gut a god damned comcast employee with my bare god damned hands if I saw them right now. |
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| Korn Dog |
| Griffin has rocky music wtf |
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| YellowNo5 |
Eyeeeeeeeee of the Tiger
DUN. DUN DUN DUN. DUN DUN DUN. DUN DUN DUUUUUUUUUUUUUN |
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| greddy10 |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
I got nothing here... fucking Comcast CUNTS!!!!.... I could fucking gut a god damned comcast employee with my bare god damned hands if I saw them right now. |
I love the internet :) |
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| nedmark61 |
| they're setting the bar pretty fucking high with this first fight... outstanding |
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| Pills |
| tough fight to score....griffin??? |
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| nedmark61 |
| great fucking fight..... the 155 lbs are fun 2 watch man.... i'm glad the ufc brought this weight classs back strong |
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| nedmark61 |
| yeah i gotta go with griffen |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
I got nothing here... fucking Comcast CUNTS!!!!.... I could fucking gut a god damned comcast employee with my bare god damned hands if I saw them right now. |
did u end up getting it man?? |
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| Jaeger |
| Bullshit decision. |
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| Jaeger |
| Horrible Horrible FUCKING horrible. |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
Bullshit decision. |
u had tavares?? |
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| nedmark61 |
| is it raining 2 night......lol nice fucking umbrella |
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| nedmark61 |
| this machida guys a beast aint he?? |
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| Pills |
| Is this jap fella a "jobber"? |
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| Jaeger |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
u had tavares?? |
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Yes, and he won that fight.............terrible decision.......just embarassing for the ufc. |
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| Jaeger |
Quote: Originally posted by Pills
Is this jap fella a "jobber"? |
nope, both are pretty bad ass........ |
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| greddy10 |
| Who won? I missed it. |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
Who won? I missed it. |
griffen |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by Pills
Is this jap fella a "jobber"? |
more of a jabrone i think |
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| Pills |
| Can hardly wait to see some of the "strikers"in there tonight. |
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| greddy10 |
| I heard Lesnar is in attendance. Possible signing? |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
did u end up getting it man?? |
yeah brother... had to wait til 10:30 to be able to get it on the iggysite, but feel like a dipshit sitting here infront of my blank bigscreen watching the action on my laptop... I've calmed down a bit now. But I still fucking DESPISE comcast with a passion... All I get when I call is some pre-recorded message saying that they're xperiencing problems with their service... as if I had to call them to find that out :rolleyes: |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
yeah brother... had to wait til 10:30 to be able to get it on the iggysite, but feel like a dipshit sitting here infront of my blank bigscreen watching the action on my laptop... I've calmed down a bit now. But I still fucking DESPISE comcast with a passion... All I get when I call is some pre-recorded message saying that they're xperiencing problems with their service... as if I had to call them to find that out :rolleyes: |
lol... fuck it man, at least u still get 2 see it |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
lol... fuck it man, at least u still get 2 see it |
yup yup... could be alot worse. Thank god I got rid of Comcast for my internet atleast... I fucking looooove Ebarq, never had an issue with them. |
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| greddy10 |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
lol... fuck it man, at least u still get 2 see it |
exactly |
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| Jaeger |
| You miss the second gift in a row for tyson????? what a fucking joke. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
lol... oh yeah, and ontop of the comcast issues, I drove an hour to get some take-out wings from the closest Hooters... had a fun night planned out... and guess what, those dumb cunts screwed my order ALL up...
All I can say is THANK FUCKING GOD for yellowbirds... cause mine just kicked in, no bubbles here bitches :dancin: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
You miss the second gift in a row for tyson????? what a fucking joke. |
yeah... it came on just as they were announcing the decision. More charity huh???... it's a shame, he'sa damn good fighter and doesn't need the "help"... it sounds like it was a pretty entertaining fight atleast huh? |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
lol... oh yeah, and ontop of the comcast issues, I drove an hour to get some take-out wings from the closest Hooters... had a fun night planned out... and guess what, those dumb cunts screwed my order ALL up...
All I can say is THANK FUCKING GOD for yellowbirds... cause mine just kicked in, no bubbles here bitches :dancin: |
bluebird jones my man..... i just switched from directv to dish network.... they must be killing for new clients, got hd/dvr for 3 bucks a month, free HD for 6 months, free HBO and Cinemax for 3 months, and they gave me a surround sound system with DVD for free....lol.... fucking surround sound thing aint 2 bad either |
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| nedmark61 |
Quote: Originally posted by Jaeger
You miss the second gift in a row for tyson????? what a fucking joke. |
you thought it was that bad of a decision..... or does losing money on it make it worse.... i thought girffen won.... it was a great fight either way |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| die Sanchez die :dance: |
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| Jaeger |
Quote: Originally posted by nedmark61
you thought it was that bad of a decision..... or does losing money on it make it worse.... i thought girffen won.... it was a great fight either way |
no money on the fights......... and it was just a plain bad decision Griffen won the first round, lost the last two. Yeah Tavares made it a great fight, a Bjj clinic.....Tyson did well to not get submitted, but that doesn't or shall I say shouldn't win a fight . |
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| Korn Dog |
| Hopefully Fitch gives me a payday |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| lol at Diego going right for a takedown against Fitch... try harder greaseball :pie: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| hahahaha :lol: ... loooovin' this, poor lil Diego :dancin: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| looove it.... dump him again Fitch!!!!! :lol: |
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| Jaeger |
I hope fitch finishes him..........
Maybe Diego shouldn't "believe" in himself so much. |
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| Jaeger |
| uh oh here we go again...........this fight is close where? fitch better finish......rogan and goldie are talking crazy again |
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| nedmark61 |
| fitch round 3.......... diego needs 2 drop down to 55 |
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| Jaeger |
| common sense would say so. |
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| Jaeger |
| rogan is talking like they are going to give it to diego |
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| nedmark61 |
| u gotta be shitting me...... one of those judges gave it to diego.... |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| WHO THE FUCK scored the fight for Sanchez?!?!?!??!... WTF?!?!?!?... these judges really never cease to amaze me... fucking insane. No way that should been split... not in a million fucking years. |
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| Jaeger |
| Yeah thats why I was scared when they were talking about this being close...........there was nothing close about this fight either.........30 27 all day long. |
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| nedmark61 |
| joe rogan is right though.... the 10 point must system sucks for MMA, Fitch obviously won that fight, but diego was trying mad submissions |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
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| greddy10 |
Bubba Bravo:
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| I take so much joy in seeing assholes lose... Diego was fun, but my favorite guy to watch get his ass kicked is Hughes.... the division is getting deeper and I have a feeling we're gonna see that dick get tooled a few times soon, I just don't think Serra is the guy to do it :( |
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| Korn Dog |
| I think the scoring system gives more points to submission attempts rather than escapes.Kinda like takedowns in wrestling |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by greddy10
Bubba Bravo:
:D |
great stuff brother :jj: |
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| nedmark61 |
| i've been pumped up for this shogun fight!!! |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
WAR Shogun!!!!.... I just hope to hell the real Shogun shows up tonight... c'mon brother!!! |
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| greddy10 |
Has Joe Rogan ever done Bubba? or he only do Oral and Anal?
I don't mean sex either. |
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| Korn Dog |
| This is the fight i payed my 20 bucks for |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| Griffin sure as hell ain't no push-over.... I hope Rua is focused |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| I'm sooooo fucking psyched for this shit!!!! RAWR!!!! :D |
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| Miller |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
I'm sooooo fucking psyched for this shit!!!! RAWR!!!! :D |
christ i've heard those words before...
whatever you guys do, don't pick up the soap!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| nedmark61 |
| great round..... i don't know who 2 give that one 2.... leaning 2 forrest |
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| Korn Dog |
| Griffin got that round |
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| nedmark61 |
| what the fuck ever happened 2 swish..... does he still lurk over here a lot |
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