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| Ned'sTesticles |
Hey guys, I just figured it might be fun to post up some pics of one of my projects here at the shop. Not sure if anybody saw the 80's film entitled "The Wraith", but it was one of Charlie Sheen's first movies and it was basically all about this supercar. Long story, short... the movie car was redesigned in an effort to pursue a production version under the Chrysler brand. From the start, this was the intention... but that whole deal fell through and I ended up purchasing the rights to the car about 8 years ago. All that I got in the deal was just the molds that were actually cast from the original full-size clay mock-up of the car, so out of the molds came a one-piece body.... ALOTTA work would have to be done to turn it into an actual car. My intentions were to build a new functional prototype, building a complete chassis, finding a driveline that would fit the body dimensions, etc... So I ended up getting to the point where I had "almost" car, and decided to scrap the project because I was running outta money, and also because I had bigger and better ideas for it... SO... I'm hoping to restart from scratch with the car within the next year, and hopefully produce a small number of turn-key cars... Here are some pics of the car... I just figured it might be something some of the car guys might like :)
Here's a media layout for the original moviecar design;
Here's the re-designed version that was built before I can into the deal... the sad part is that it was destroyed on a road course at a speed of 217 mph... this played a part in it's unsuccessful effort to get into production.
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| Ned'sTesticles |
And here's some shots of the prototype I was building. It was an adventure in fabrication, and I sure as hell didn't know nearly as much about fiberglass and composite production as I do now. My prototype still has a brand new Cadillac Northstar driveline in the rear of it. Basically I started with a Fiero chassis and cut it down until I only had the front and rear firewalls and floorpan... basically just the cockpit of the fiero. The rest of the chassis and suspension was all custom built. The suspension was all fabricated by the owner of March Racing who patterned it directly off of Al Unser Jr.'s '85 IndyCar... it was pretty damned impressive and was gonna enable this car to handle like nothing else on the streets :D .... The Northstar was an interesting option, since I was trying to work within the dimensions of the original body, it was the best bang for the buck. 300hp sitting right behind your head, and it was going to get warmed over with a custom twin-turbo, custom ground cams, and new heads. My BIG problem with this was the fact that this car would always be an automatic, which was one of the reasons I began losing interest in the project. It would have never done the car justice. The configuration was pretty cool though, being as how we took a complete front-engine, front-wheel drive assembly and moved it to rear-engine, rear-wheel drive.
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| Ned'sTesticles |
oh yeah... and here's a little mix-clip from the movie that might jog some memories;
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Now that I've had a few year to do some more research and contemplating about what I wanna do differently when I start back up on the project, the first thing I'm doing is using a complete rolling chassis from Factory Five Racing. This company is very well known in the kitcar market for building the best 427 Cobra and Cobra Daytona replicas. They design some incredible machines. They came out with a new car a few years ago that is a completely new design... an exotic car basically. Well, the chassis would work perfectly for the Wraith. It's also set up to run a chevy LS1 or LS6 backed up by a porsche 6-speed transaxle... so yeah, it's exactly what I wanted to do with the Wraith in the first place. The only problem back then was that I was trying to build a chassis to fit the body and NOW, with my fiberglass skills, I can easily stretch the body to fit this chassis without compromising the body design. Also... my goal weight for the car will be an anorexic 2200 lbs., almost half of what my Firebird weighs, and the LS6 will be juiced by a single turbo, along with other internal mods that will bump it up to a healthy 750hp at the flywheel. I'm really hoping to be able to get back to the Wraith project soon, and I'd love to post the progress right here on this thread. This may all be WGAS, but fuck it... I need some of you guys to kick me in the ass to get this thing going again :D
Here's a few pics of the Factory Five car that I'll be using the chassis from... notice the V8 in the back window :dancin:... ya gotta love that :D
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| Scales |
Wow, that is cool. You bought the rights? Good luck with that!!
This site has it in 3rd place for users who voted on what they would like to have diecast.
http://www.hollywood-diecast.com/wish%20list.htm
That car would get a lot of looks on the street, and I think would do really well on a limited edition kind of thing if you made some to sell. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Going with the theme of this thread, I figured I'd post up some kitcar pics. Alot of guy don't even know what kind of kitcars are out there. Some pretty fun stuff that can be built in your garage over a long winter. I'll name some of the donor cars and the kits on the market that you can use on them. Many of the exotics kits, like the Ferrari and Lamborghini replicas are based on Pontiac Fieros and Volkswagen Bugs because of their rear-engine configuration they have in common with alot of the exotic cars...
these WERE Fieros at one point;
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| Ned'sTesticles |
lol... yeah, I've seen that... I actually saw it about 7 years ago when they first posted that :jj: They'll never build anything and if they do, I knows peoples that sue peoples :cool: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
more Fieros;
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Volkswagen Bugs;
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82-92 Pontiac Firebird;
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Datsun 280 Z;
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Cobra Replicas;
Cobra Daytona Replica;
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| Scales |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
lol... yeah, I've seen that... I actually saw it about 7 years ago when they first posted that :jj: They'll never build anything and if they do, I knows peoples that sue peoples :cool: |
I wondered about the legalities of making a kit car if you owned the rights to it. I pm'd you another link also.
There was a guy in the city where I went to college at, who built kit cars, mostly old rolls royces and roadsters and things like that, drove them around for a few months and got everyone talking about them, and then flipped them at huge profits.
I'm still waiting for this baby to be made into a kit car.
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Custom Chassis cars;
Corvette Grand Sport (one of my favorites);
misc.;
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more misc;
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Another one of my favorites... the Ultima GTR;
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| Ned'sTesticles |
| I'll try to go through some more of my kitcar pics together soon... I just figured that with all the gearheads in here that are always looking for a fun winter project, this might get their panties wet knowing they can build one of these in their garage :dance: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Actually... I was wrong, I didn't even click the link before. I thought that was a different guy who was claiming to be building the re-designed version that I own the rights to... The link you posted is in reference to the original moviecar body, not the re-designed version. I wouldn't have any case against those guys since the car is much different than the 2nd design. |
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| racerx47 |
| Thats awesome NT,that was one of my favorite cars from car movies.Good luck with the project this winter,sounds like its going to one bad ass machine.I was just wondering why you changed the doors to gullwing style?I am also trying to finish a project this winter its a rear engine dragster,I would attach a few pics but I cant figure out how to do that. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
Thats awesome NT,that was one of my favorite cars from car movies.Good luck with the project this winter,sounds like its going to one bad ass machine.I was just wondering why you changed the doors to gullwing style?I am also trying to finish a project this winter its a rear engine dragster,I would attach a few pics but I cant figure out how to do that. |
yeah...lol, that was a brainfart at the time :D ... no more gullwings, I'm actually going with the mock-scissor doors, alot like the McClaren F1 |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
That's a gorgeous dragster ya got there brother... real fucking nice. :bigup: ... just curious, is there any chance that the body is a Riggeal body??? Just wondering because that's where I started in the industry, building dragster and funnycar bodies and components. I actually have to head over there right now... he borrowed my plasma cutter and is still trying to figure it out...lol. Be back in a bit. :hw: |
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| BrianJr74 |
You own the rights to the Wraith car?! That is cool as hell!
You have a plasma cutter?! That is almost as cool. |
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| racerx47 |
| The scissor doors will be sick.A plasma cutter would have saved me alot of time,Ineed to get me one of those.I built the body myself,its aluminum sheet metal.I have a roll brake and a bead roller in the garage.Its been a longer project than I planned,the only thing left is the top end of the motor.It just seems like everything I buy now costs $1000-$5000 its draining me. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by BrianJr74
You own the rights to the Wraith car?! That is cool as hell!
You have a plasma cutter?! That is almost as cool. |
lol... the plasma cutter ain't nothing special... hell, I can't even remember the last time I used it, but damn... when you need it, you're thankful you got it :D |
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| Vmisceo |
Me and my little brother watched that movie on hbo all the time ......Skanko....
The original design is so outdated why would the try to hock that! Your version has got great lines Remind me of the 90's jap spec turbo cars. You should power it by honda. Looks fucking nice. I thought i saw some Factory 5 cars in there.
k20 /k24 built turbo, 6 speed gear box toss in a k pro run 10's in the 1/4 and keeping the weight way down. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
The scissor doors will be sick.A plasma cutter would have saved me alot of time,Ineed to get me one of those.I built the body myself,its aluminum sheet metal.I have a roll brake and a bead roller in the garage.Its been a longer project than I planned,the only thing left is the top end of the motor.It just seems like everything I buy now costs $1000-$5000 its draining me. |
well congrats man, that's a big deal to fab your own shit... I can definitely appreciate that. It's fun when you get a guy walk up to ya at the track and ask ya who made your body, and you say "I did"... then ya get the "no... really"...lol, thats fun shit :dance: ... Also, if ya ever need any NACA ducts or anything like that for it, let me know... I have a bunch of different sized duct molds around here somewhere. |
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| racerx47 |
Quote: Originally posted by NedsTesticles
well congrats man, that's a big deal to fab your own shit... I can definitely appreciate that. It's fun when you get a guy walk up to ya at the track and ask ya who made your body, and you say "I did"... then ya get the "no... really"...lol, thats fun shit :dance: ... Also, if ya ever need any NACA ducts or anything like that for it, let me know... I have a bunch of different sized duct molds around here somewhere. |
Yeah,the body looks ok,I would definitely do things different next time.My dad and I fabbed the chassis,it really looks good,but it was the 4th one we built.I am not sure what you are talking about with the NACA ducts,are they the ducts that you can put in the body?If they are I forgot to put those in,they look cool,thought about it after I got it airbrushed.Do you do air scoops for dragsters?I have 3 different ones and dont like any of them.
Are you gonna make a Bubba Edition Wraith?LOL. |
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| Roundhead |
Well I left Kentucky back in 49.
And I went to Detroit workin on an assembly line
The first year they had me puttin wheels on Caddillacs
Every day I'd watch them beauties roll by
and sometimes id hang my head and cry
Cause i always wanted me one that was long and black.
One day I devised myself a plan that should be the envy of most any man
Id sneak it out of there in a lunch box in my hand
Now, gettin caught meant gettin fired
But I figured I'd have it all by the time I retired
And I'd have me a car worth at least a hundered grand
(CHORUS)
I'd get it one piece at a time
And it wouldnt cost me a dime
You'll know it's me whe I come throught your town
I'm gonna ride around in style
I'm gonna drive everybody wild
Cause I'll have the only one ther is around
So the very next day when I punched in
With my big lunch box and with help from my friends
I left that day with a lunch box full of gears
I've never considered myself a thief
But GM wouldn't miss just one little piece
Especially if I strung it out over several years
The first day I got me a fuel pump
And the next day I got me an engine and a trunk
Then i got me a transmission and all the chrome
The little things I could get in my big lunch box
Like nuts and bolts and all 4 shocks
But the big stuff we snuck out in my buddies mobile home
Now, up to now, my plan went all right
Till we tried to put it all together one night
And thats when we noticed that somethin was definitely wrong
The transmission was a 53
And the motor turned out to be a 73
And when we tried to put in the bolts all the holes were gone
So we drilled it out so that it would fit
And with a little bit of help from an adapter kit
We had that engine runnin just like a song
Now the headlights they was another sight
We had 2 on the left and one on the right
But when we pulled out the switch all three of em come on
The back end looked kinda funny too
But we put it together and when we got through
Well thats when we noticed that we only had one tail fin
About that time my wife walked out
And I could see in her eyes that she had her doubts
But she opened the door and said "Honey, take me for a spin."
So we drove up town just to get the tags
And I headed right on down main drag
And I could hear everybody laughing for blocks around
But up there at the court house they didn't laugh
Cause to type it up it took the whole staff
And when they got through the title weighed 60 pounds
(CHORUS)
Uh,yeah,Red-rider,this is the Cottonmouth in the sycho-billy-Cadillac,come on
This is the Cottonmouth and negatory on the cost on this machine here
Red-rider
You might say I right up to the factory and picked it up, it was chaper
that way
What model is it?
It's a 49,50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59 automobile
It's a 60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,70 automobile |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
Yeah,the body looks ok,I would definitely do things different next time.My dad and I fabbed the chassis,it really looks good,but it was the 4th one we built.I am not sure what you are talking about with the NACA ducts,are they the ducts that you can put in the body?If they are I forgot to put those in,they look cool,thought about it after I got it airbrushed.Do you do air scoops for dragsters?I have 3 different ones and dont like any of them.
Are you gonna make a Bubba Edition Wraith?LOL. |
yeah man... the NACA's are the little ports recessed into the body... just like the inlet on the front of the Viper hoods... Here's one of my hoods, and you can see the NACA duct in the front. The ones for the Dragsters are almost identical, and I know I have molds buried in the shop here somewhere for 3 different sizes of them. As far as a BubbaWraith, I doubt it...lol, I'm still waiting on the go-ahead to build his truck hoods.
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Incase anybody was curious about building a custom chassis for a Lambo replica instead of using a Fiero donor, here's some shots of the process...
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| Apoc13 |
some very cool kit cars there...it's amazing what people can do...i bet some of those ended up costing as much as buying the real thing
we have a few fake cobras around here....at least i assume they're fake, there couldn't be that many floating around
and about that movie, the one thing i remember is a good kick ass heavy metal soundtrack |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by Apoc13
some very cool kit cars there...it's amazing what people can do...i bet some of those ended up costing as much as buying the real thing
we have a few fake cobras around here....at least i assume they're fake, there couldn't be that many floating around
and about that movie, the one thing i remember is a good kick ass heavy metal soundtrack |
yeah... my guess would be that they're replicas. I've actually never even seen an original Cobra. Fuck an original though... when you can build one just the way ya want it with power for fucking days, who needs an original?... Those fuckers are beasts. :cool: ... The Factory Five kit is awesome because all you need to own is their kit and a mustang. The FF kit uses all of the running gear from the mustang donor (engine, tranny, rear, suspension, and all kinds of various components)... makes the build much easier. You can pick up a wrecked 5.0 for a little bit of nothing, drop everything into a 2200lb. car totally stock and have a 12-13 second car. With the huge mustang aftermarket out there, you could get that car into the 10's for just a few grand more. Nice sunday driver :dancin: |
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| wwfguy2000 |
Man oh man! That is some amazing stuff!
It makes me wish that I would move out of Schuylkill County, and get up there to Gettysburg!
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| 5hradaylistener |
Way cool stuff NT! I really dig the Fiero stuff.LOL I still own a Fiero(havn't driven it in years) Saw another digger in an earlier post so here is the artist rendering of my new car that is being built as we speak.I should have the rolling car in mid Oct.
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| redryder |
| Nice pics Roger, I do wish I would have pursued a career in cars instead of the path I took. |
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| BrentsBooger |
| Roger your one talented mother fucker you know that right, oh and you build a nice car too ;) |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by 5hradaylistener
Way cool stuff NT! I really dig the Fiero stuff.LOL I still own a Fiero(havn't driven it in years) Saw another digger in an earlier post so here is the artist rendering of my new car that is being built as we speak.I should have the rolling car in mid Oct. |
Looks great brother... you'll have to keep us posted on the progress and get some pics taken as you get it together. As far as the Fiero goes.... see, now ya got no excuse, lol... rip that fucker up and have some fun with it. That's the only reason I ever look forward to winter... many a late night with the big heater going, drinkin' some beers and getting into a new project. :cool: |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by BrentsBooger
Roger your one talented mother fucker you know that right, oh and you build a nice car too ;) |
Thank you my beloved booger :dance: ... I just like fucking with shit until I have to learn a brand new skill to fix what I did...lol |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Quote: Originally posted by redryder
Nice pics Roger, I do wish I would have pursued a career in cars instead of the path I took. |
Thanks Denis... What prompted all this was me having to install a new hard drive and I finally decided to go through all the files in my PC and organize them.. they've been scattered all over the place on my computer for the past 7 or 8 years... finding alotta fun old stuff :) Here's a car that I absolutely loved... it was from back when I still worked on customers' cars and just did different one-off body fabrication and custom paintwork... This yellow '57 had a monster of a 502 under the hood with no mufflers, just pro-dumps right outta the headers... sounded like the apocalypse coming from miles down the road. The old guy that owned it would always get a couple beers in him and bang it up trying to park it in his yard... it was pretty funny, cause he'd have some damage for me to repair about every 3 weeks. He also had a bright orange '55 with a built 396 and a powerglide... that too got banged up quite a bit...lol. Here's some progress shots of some translucent orange pearl ghost flames I laid out on the fenders one time... It was a neat effect, since they'd glow bright as hell in some light, and in other lights, you couldn't see them at all. It was a reeeeaaally subtle effect most of the time, but when the sun would hit it at the right angle, it would jump out at you.
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| Krypts |
| My Dad is still sitting on my 57. He tears it apart and rebuilds it every 5 or 6 years. I figure one day he will get it perfect. |
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| racerx47 |
Quote: Originally posted by 5hradaylistener
Way cool stuff NT! I really dig the Fiero stuff.LOL I still own a Fiero(havn't driven it in years) Saw another digger in an earlier post so here is the artist rendering of my new car that is being built as we speak.I should have the rolling car in mid Oct.
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Looks good dude!What class are you going to be running?Super Comp? |
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| redryder |
Roger , I would love to just have one of my old cars/truck to this day to keep working on. You know the old saying if I knew then what I know now. Damn it man.
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| ptinsley |
| Some nice wheels. Can't wait for NOPI to come to N. Texas. |
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| 5hradaylistener |
Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
Looks good dude!What class are you going to be running?Super Comp? |
Thanks.I can't wait till it's actually material.The chassis is done and the body is being Built.This car will NOT have a throttle stop on it.LOL. It will be a bracket mule wide open. It will aslos see some NHRA Top Dragster and the Nor Cal Top Dragster Assn. But the real plan is to do a lot of Big Buck Bracket racing And race for points at a couple tracks. |
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| racerx47 |
Quote: Originally posted by 5hradaylistener
Thanks.I can't wait till it's actually material.The chassis is done and the body is being Built.This car will NOT have a throttle stop on it.LOL. It will be a bracket mule wide open. It will aslos see some NHRA Top Dragster and the Nor Cal Top Dragster Assn. But the real plan is to do a lot of Big Buck Bracket racing And race for points at a couple tracks. |
Same with mine.I wanted to run NHRA B/ED but that class is though to be competitive with limited funds.So it will be a SBC with 2-1050s on the bottle.Hoping to be running 6.90s.What powerplant do you have planned for yours? |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
Here's a couple more Volkswagen Bug conversions... it's basically like a streetrod style re-body with suicide doors... they also but a chevy smallblock in these conversions :cool:
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| 5hradaylistener |
Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
Same with mine.I wanted to run NHRA B/ED but that class is though to be competitive with limited funds.So it will be a SBC with 2-1050s on the bottle.Hoping to be running 6.90s.What powerplant do you have planned for yours? |
Sweet! Comp eliminator? Might as well go Pro Stock racin! LOL. I will have a 565" BBC Just tryin to sell a couple things right now for the heads I want. I would like to build it with 18* Big dukes.If I end up in a hurry I will just use the conventional heads I have now and then spray it when needed to make a TD field. It will have N2O on it regardless of combos.But with the big Duke stuff I should run solid 7.40s-50 on mule with 1 carb on Alky. My car is a 4 link so it should weigh about 18XX with me in it. I figure with the conventional stuff it will run in the 7.8x on mule and 7.80 is close to the bump, sometimes in the .60s to get in TD around here. So I'd have to spray it to qualify.I only lack a rotating assembly to go conventional so it might happen. But I want the Dukes LOL |
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| racerx47 |
Quote: Originally posted by 5hradaylistener
Sweet! Comp eliminator? Might as well go Pro Stock racin! LOL. I will have a 565" BBC Just tryin to sell a couple things right now for the heads I want. I would like to build it with 18* Big dukes.If I end up in a hurry I will just use the conventional heads I have now and then spray it when needed to make a TD field. It will have N2O on it regardless of combos.But with the big Duke stuff I should run solid 7.40s-50 on mule with 1 carb on Alky. My car is a 4 link so it should weigh about 18XX with me in it. I figure with the conventional stuff it will run in the 7.8x on mule and 7.80 is close to the bump, sometimes in the .60s to get in TD around here. So I'd have to spray it to qualify.I only lack a rotating assembly to go conventional so it might happen. But I want the Dukes LOL |
Yeah..Comp!It would be just as bad as P/S,nowadays if you run a SBC in comp you need to have a $60,000 check ready to make out to Patterson if you want to qualify.Your car should come out of the hole hard,keep me posted on the status of the build.I dont know if you are looking for parts but I post on www.insidecompracing.com in their parts section you can find some good buys.I picked up a Hogan Intake and some other small stuff on there. |
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Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
Yeah..Comp!It would be just as bad as P/S,nowadays if you run a SBC in comp you need to have a $60,000 check ready to make out to Patterson if you want to qualify.Your car should come out of the hole hard,keep me posted on the status of the build.I dont know if you are looking for parts but I post on www.insidecompracing.com in their parts section you can find some good buys.I picked up a Hogan Intake and some other small stuff on there. |
Been to inside comp a few times. I had an acquaintance who put himself right out of racing by trying to go comp racing (was tooo good to go bracket racing for some fun). Bought a car and started an engine combo.Never hit the track :( I spend most of my time on dragraceresults.com Gettin my current engine back together (broke lifter..caused major havoc lol ) our ET finals is second week of Oct. and am in the Race Of Champions there tryin to get to Pamona :cool: Comp is fun watchin fo sho. I have abuddy that works at MBE in SC runnin comp now. You ever hear of Jeff Gillette? he has 380" SBCs runnin in the 7s in a door car .CRAZY cool. But I stay away from NHRA racing as much as I can. I like to go big money bracket racing.I like racing 3 different races over 3 days. I used to do the 8 div and 5 nat doin the .90 thing but then found bracket racing to be way more fun. I went from to making 100- - 150 passes a year to well over 300 goin bracket racing. I can't wait to get my new pipe in hand ;) yes I said pipe in hand LOL |
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| irocya |
| Keep working dude, that's cool as hell!! |
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| racerx47 |
Quote: Originally posted by 5hradaylistener
Been to inside comp a few times. I had an acquaintance who put himself right out of racing by trying to go comp racing (was tooo good to go bracket racing for some fun). Bought a car and started an engine combo.Never hit the track :( I spend most of my time on dragraceresults.com Gettin my current engine back together (broke lifter..caused major havoc lol ) our ET finals is second week of Oct. and am in the Race Of Champions there tryin to get to Pamona :cool: Comp is fun watchin fo sho. I have abuddy that works at MBE in SC runnin comp now. You ever hear of Jeff Gillette? he has 380" SBCs runnin in the 7s in a door car .CRAZY cool. But I stay away from NHRA racing as much as I can. I like to go big money bracket racing.I like racing 3 different races over 3 days. I used to do the 8 div and 5 nat doin the .90 thing but then found bracket racing to be way more fun. I went from to making 100- - 150 passes a year to well over 300 goin bracket racing. I can't wait to get my new pipe in hand ;) yes I said pipe in hand LOL |
I talked to Jeff once on the phone when he was doing a clearance on parts.He was once the best comp dragster in the country,I heard he was done with comp after this season,but that may be a rumor. |
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| 5hradaylistener |
Quote: Originally posted by racerx47
I talked to Jeff once on the phone when he was doing a clearance on parts.He was once the best comp dragster in the country,I heard he was done with comp after this season,but that may be a rumor. |
He runs a lot of Top Sportsman now(wins at that too). Still runnin the the 7s with small inches. One of my Buddies, Barry, crews for him.We are all local to each other. The Builder that built Jeff's championship comp dragsters is the same shop building my chassis. |
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| Ned'sTesticles |
I just scanned a few more pics of the first Wraith prototype... some of my favorites :)
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| racerx47 |
| That looks bad ass NT :2thumbs: |
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