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| patcracker |
As Media Matters reported today, Rush Limbaugh, on his show said that those troops who come home and want to get America out of the middle of the religious civil war in Iraq are "phony soldiers." I'd love for you, Rush, to have me on your show and tell that to me to my
Where to begin?
First, in what universe is a guy who never served even close to being qualified to judge those who have worn the uniform? Rush Limbaugh has never worn a uniform in his life -- not even one at Mickey D's -- and somehow he's got the moral standing to pass judgment on the men and women who risked their lives for this nation, and his right to blather smears on the airwaves?
Second, maybe Rush doesn't much care, but the majority of troops on the ground in Iraq, and those who have returned, do not back the President's failed policy. If you go to our "Did You Get the Memo" page at VoteVets.org, there's a good collection of stories, polls, and surveys, which all show American's troops believe we are on the wrong track, not the right one, in Iraq.
Does Rush believe, then, that the majority of the US Armed Forces are "phony?"
Third, the polls and stories don't even take into account the former brass who commanded in Iraq, who are incredibly critical of the Bush administration, and it's steadfast refusal to listen to those commanders on the ground who have sent up warning after warning. Major Generals John Batiste and Paul Eaton left the military and joined VoteVets.org for that very reason.
Does Rush believe that highly decorated Major Generals are "phony soldiers?"
Finally, as Media Matters notes, just recently, members of the 82nd Airborne in Iraq wrote a New York Times op-ed, very critical of the course in Iraq, and suggesting it was time to figure out the exit strategy. Two of them just died. Will Rush call up their grieving parents and tell them that they should stop crying, because they were just "phony soldiers?"
Get the point here, Rush?
You weren't just flat out wrong, you offended a majority of those of us who actually had the courage to go to Iraq and serve, while you sat back in your nice studio, coming up with crap like this.
My challenge to you, then, is to have me on the show and say all of this again, right to the face of someone who served in Iraq. I'll come on any day, any time. Not only will I once again explain why your comments were so wrong, but I will completely school you on why your refusal to seek a way out of Iraq is only aiding al Qaeda and crippling American security.
Ball's in your court.
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| Max-the-Silent |
Another reason for me to ignore that guy.
Pilonidal cyst draft dodging mother fucker. |
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| Rike |
| the fake outrage is strong here. |
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| Reed Rothchild |
| Rush is a tool who is probably back on the Oxy. Why anybody still bothers to reprint or discuss the shit that comes out of his noise hole is beyond me. He is probably hoping to get condemned by the Senate just like moveon.org. |
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| Porcupine |
| You'd have to be high to call anyone who has served in Iraq a "phony" soldier. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
I don't even think Rush himself believes his own drivel most of the time. I'm almost convinced that his entire shtick is a put-on and that he is laughing at the morons who think it's real all the way to the bank.
Just like professional wrestling.
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| Monster_Zero |
A fat, bloated, impotent, drug addled, hypocritical, bag of shit...
He really is the perfect poster boy for the modern GOP. :) |
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| Turbo Teabag |
Conservative radio is all over the place. How many places is he syndicated? Along with Sean Vannity?
I really hope people only listen to these quaks just for a laugh (but they are by no means funny) and NOBODY takes people like these (and Ann Coulter) seriously because those people i'm afraid of. |
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| zimmie |
| media matters is as far left as Rush is far right.........why didn't they quote him?........for you to accept what media matters reports says a lot about you.... |
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| flamslam64 |
| I believe he was speaking about a particular person. I cannot recall the guys name but apparently their is this supposed ex-soldier railing against the war. He has supposedly been exposed as a fraud (he was kicked out of the military after 40 something days and was never in Iraq). I think that is what he was talking about. |
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| Bronks Breasts |
| General Gerber Patton.. that article was written by Jon Soltz. He served in the military ,, but he was really in the military. Was your mom breast feeding you when you were on the front lines ? |
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| Bronks Breasts |
This is the phony veteran..
Jon Soltz is a leader of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans community and is originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. From May to September 2003, Soltz served as a Captain during Operation Iraqi Freedom, deploying logistics convoys with the 1st Armored Division. During 2005, Soltz was mobilized for 365 days at Fort Dix New Jersey, training soldiers for combat in Afghanistan and Iraq. He also served his country with distinction in the Kosovo Campaign as a Tank Platoon Leader between June and December 2000. Soltz is a graduate of Washington & Jefferson College with dual degree in Political Science and History. He has completed graduate work at the University of Pittsburgh Graduate School of Public and International Affairs.
Jon Soltz has quickly become one of the most authoritative voices on veterans issues and military issues. He has been interviewed by national outlets such as the Associated Press, Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, TIME, Newsweek, among others, and in dozens of local outlets. He has made numerous media appearances including Jim Lehrer’s Newshour on PBS, CNN. MSNBC, FOX News and ABC News and Nightline, and national radio programs including Air America Radio, the Ed Schultz Show, the Bill Press Show, Alan Colmes Show, and Mancow in the Morning. Jon is a frequent contributor to Countdown with Keith Olbermann.
You can view clips of Soltz’s media appearances at the VoteVets.org YouTube page, at http://www.youtube.com/votevets
You can view writing by Jon Soltz at http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jon-soltz |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by flamslam64
I believe he was speaking about a particular person. I cannot recall the guys name but apparently their is this supposed ex-soldier railing against the war. He has supposedly been exposed as a fraud (he was kicked out of the military after 40 something days and was never in Iraq). I think that is what he was talking about. |
don't let the facts get in the way of blind hatred.... |
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| Bronks Breasts |
This is the manuscript of the actual call.. and the call can be heard unedited...
Limbaugh: Service members who support U.S. withdrawal are "phony soldiers"
During the September 26 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh called service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq "phony soldiers." He made the comment while discussing with a caller a conversation he had with a previous caller, "Mike from Chicago," who said he "used to be military," and "believe[s] that we should pull out of Iraq." Limbaugh told the second caller, whom he identified as "Mike, this one from Olympia, Washington," that "[t]here's a lot" that people who favor U.S. withdrawal "don't understand" and that when asked why the United States should pull out, their only answer is, " 'Well, we just gotta bring the troops home.' ... 'Save the -- keeps the troops safe' or whatever," adding, "[I]t's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people." "Mike" from Olympia replied, "No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media." Limbaugh interjected, "The phony soldiers." The caller, who had earlier said, "I am a serving American military, in the Army," agreed, replying, "The phony soldiers."
On August 19, The New York Times published an op-ed by seven members of the U.S. Army 82nd Airborne Division. They ended their assessment of the situation in Iraq with the following passage:
In a lawless environment where men with guns rule the streets, engaging in the banalities of life has become a death-defying act. Four years into our occupation, we have failed on every promise, while we have substituted Baath Party tyranny with a tyranny of Islamist, militia and criminal violence. When the primary preoccupation of average Iraqis is when and how they are likely to be killed, we can hardly feel smug as we hand out care packages. As an Iraqi man told us a few days ago with deep resignation, "We need security, not free food."
In the end, we need to recognize that our presence may have released Iraqis from the grip of a tyrant, but that it has also robbed them of their self-respect. They will soon realize that the best way to regain dignity is to call us what we are -- an army of occupation -- and force our withdrawal.
Until that happens, it would be prudent for us to increasingly let Iraqis take center stage in all matters, to come up with a nuanced policy in which we assist them from the margins but let them resolve their differences as they see fit. This suggestion is not meant to be defeatist, but rather to highlight our pursuit of incompatible policies to absurd ends without recognizing the incongruities.
We need not talk about our morale. As committed soldiers, we will see this mission through.
On September 12, The New York Times noted: "Two of the soldiers who wrote of their pessimism about the war in an Op-Ed article that appeared in The New York Times on Aug. 19 were killed in Baghdad on Monday."
As Media Matters for America has documented, Limbaugh denounced as "contemptible" and "indecent" MoveOn.org's much-discussed advertisement -- titled "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" -- critical of Gen. David Petraeus, but has repeatedly attacked the patriotism of those with whom he disagrees. For instance, on the January 25 broadcast of his radio show, he told his audience that he had a new name for Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), a Vietnam veteran: "Senator Betrayus." A day earlier, Hagel had sided with Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in voting to approve a nonbinding resolution declaring that President Bush's escalation in Iraq was against "the national interest." Additionally, on August 21, 2006, Limbaugh said: "I want to respectfully disagree with the president on the last part of what he said. I am going to challenge the patriotism of people who disagree with him because the people that disagree with him want to lose."
As Media Matters has also documented, on the August 2, 2005, program, Limbaugh repeatedly referred to Iraq war veteran and then-Democratic congressional candidate Paul Hackett as "another liberal Democrat trying to hide behind a military uniform" and accused him of going to Iraq "to pad the resumé." On the day of Limbaugh's comments, Hackett narrowly lost a special election to Republican Jean Schmidt for Ohio's 2nd Congressional District seat.
From the September 26 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Mike in Chicago, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER 1: Hi Rush, how you doing today?
LIMBAUGH: I'm fine sir, thank you.
CALLER 1: Good. Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and suggest that there are absolutely no Republicans that could possibly be against the war?
LIMBAUGH: Well, who are these Republicans? I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators, but they don't want to lose the war like the Democrats do. I can't think of -- who are the Republicans in the anti-war movement?
CALLER 1: I'm just -- I'm not talking about the senators. I'm talking about the general public -- like you accuse the public of all the Democrats of being, you know, wanting to lose, but --
LIMBAUGH: Oh, come on! Here we go again. I uttered a truth, and you can't handle it, so you gotta call here and change the subject. How come I'm not also hitting Republicans? I don't know a single Republican or conservative, Mike, who wants to pull out of Iraq in defeat. The Democrats have made the last four years about that specifically.
CALLER 1: Well, I am a Republican, and I've listened to you for a long time, and you're right on a lot of things, but I do believe that we should pull out of Iraq. I don't think it's winnable. And I'm not a Democrat, but I just -- sometimes you've got to cut the losses.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you -- you --
CALLER 1: I mean, sometimes you really gotta know when you're wrong.
LIMBAUGH: Well, yeah, you do. I'm not wrong on this. The worst thing that can happen is losing this, flying out of there, waving the white flag. Do you have --
CALLER 1: Oh, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying anything like that, but, you know --
LIMBAUGH: Well, of course you are.
CALLER 1: No, I'm not.
LIMBAUGH: Bill, the truth is -- the truth is the truth, Mike.
CALLER 1: We did what we were supposed to do, OK. We got rid of Saddam Hussein. We got rid of a lot of the terrorists. Let them run their country --
LIMBAUGH: Oh, good lord! Good lord.
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CALLER 1: How long is it gonna -- how long do you think we're going to have to be there for them to take care of that?
LIMBAUGH: Mike --
CALLER 1: How long -- you know -- what is it?
LIMBAUGH: Mike --
CALLER 1: What is it?
LIMBAUGH: Mike, you can't possibly be a Republican.
CALLER 1: I am.
LIMBAUGH: You are -- you are --
CALLER 1: I am definitely a Republican.
LIMBAUGH: You can't be a Republican. You are --
CALLER 1: Oh, I am definitely a Republican.
LIMBAUGH: You are tarnishing the reputation, 'cause you sound just like a Democrat.
CALLER 1: No, but --
LIMBAUGH: The answer to your question --
CALLER 1: -- seriously, how long do we have to stay there --
LIMBAUGH: As long as it takes!
CALLER 1: -- to win it? How long?
LIMBAUGH: As long as it takes! It is very serious.
CALLER 1: And that is what?
LIMBAUGH: This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. We stay as long -- just like your job. You do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.
CALLER 1: So then you say we need to stay there forever --
LIMBAUGH: I -- it won't --
CALLER 1: -- because that's what it'll take.
LIMBAUGH: No, Bill, or Mike -- I'm sorry. I'm confusing you with the guy from Texas.
CALLER 1: See, I -- I've used to be military, OK? And I am a Republican.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah. Yeah.
CALLER 1: And I do live [inaudible] but --
LIMBAUGH: Right. Right. Right, I know.
CALLER 1: -- you know, really -- I want you to be saying how long it's gonna take.
LIMBAUGH: And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!
CALLER 1: How long do we have to stay there?
LIMBAUGH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question. That's not what you want to hear, so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up.
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LIMBAUGH: Another Mike, this one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER 2: Hi Rush, thanks for taking my call.
LIMBAUGH: You bet.
CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I've been serving for 14 years, very proudly.
LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER 2: And, you know, I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I'm proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there, it'd take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse, and we'd have to go right back over there within a year or so. And --
LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't even -- if -- the next guy that calls here, I'm gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out? They can't -- I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "Well, we just gotta bring the troops home."
CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what --
LIMBAUGH: "Save the -- keep the troops safe" or whatever. I -- it's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.
CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.
LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined --
CALLER 2: A lot of them -- the new kids, yeah.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.
CALLER 2: Exactly, sir.
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| artechba |
| draft dodging junkie |
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| zimmie |
| read it all...who did Rush call phony soldiers? |
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| Bronks Breasts |
| Hey Terrorist guys,,, want to win over America.. bomb Rush Limbaughs' home,, and hey might as well get Ann Coulters' home while you are down there.. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
media matters is as far left as Rush is far right.........why didn't they quote him?........for you to accept what media matters reports says a lot about you.... |
For the 1000th time, I will now request that a right wing cunt (YOU) post proof that mediamatters has lied or posted inaccurate stories.... |
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| Bronks Breasts |
| Does the homo pedephile junkie need to give a particular name ? General Gerber, look down towards the end of caller number two. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
read it all...who did Rush call phony soldiers? |
Read it and weep, cunt:
From the September 26 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:
LIMBAUGH: Mike in Chicago, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER 1: Hi Rush, how you doing today?
LIMBAUGH: I'm fine sir, thank you.
CALLER 1: Good. Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and suggest that there are absolutely no Republicans that could possibly be against the war?
LIMBAUGH: Well, who are these Republicans? I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators, but they don't want to lose the war like the Democrats do. I can't think of -- who are the Republicans in the anti-war movement?
CALLER 1: I'm just -- I'm not talking about the senators. I'm talking about the general public -- like you accuse the public of all the Democrats of being, you know, wanting to lose, but --
LIMBAUGH: Oh, come on! Here we go again. I uttered a truth, and you can't handle it, so you gotta call here and change the subject. How come I'm not also hitting Republicans? I don't know a single Republican or conservative, Mike, who wants to pull out of Iraq in defeat. The Democrats have made the last four years about that specifically.
CALLER 1: Well, I am a Republican, and I've listened to you for a long time, and you're right on a lot of things, but I do believe that we should pull out of Iraq. I don't think it's winnable. And I'm not a Democrat, but I just -- sometimes you've got to cut the losses.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you -- you --
CALLER 1: I mean, sometimes you really gotta know when you're wrong.
LIMBAUGH: Well, yeah, you do. I'm not wrong on this. The worst thing that can happen is losing this, flying out of there, waving the white flag. Do you have --
CALLER 1: Oh, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying anything like that, but, you know --
LIMBAUGH: Well, of course you are.
CALLER 1: No, I'm not.
LIMBAUGH: Bill, the truth is -- the truth is the truth, Mike.
CALLER 1: We did what we were supposed to do, OK. We got rid of Saddam Hussein. We got rid of a lot of the terrorists. Let them run their country --
LIMBAUGH: Oh, good lord! Good lord.
[...]
CALLER 1: How long is it gonna -- how long do you think we're going to have to be there for them to take care of that?
LIMBAUGH: Mike --
CALLER 1: How long -- you know -- what is it?
LIMBAUGH: Mike --
CALLER 1: What is it?
LIMBAUGH: Mike, you can't possibly be a Republican.
CALLER 1: I am.
LIMBAUGH: You are -- you are --
CALLER 1: I am definitely a Republican.
LIMBAUGH: You can't be a Republican. You are --
CALLER 1: Oh, I am definitely a Republican.
LIMBAUGH: You are tarnishing the reputation, 'cause you sound just like a Democrat.
CALLER 1: No, but --
LIMBAUGH: The answer to your question --
CALLER 1: -- seriously, how long do we have to stay there --
LIMBAUGH: As long as it takes!
CALLER 1: -- to win it? How long?
LIMBAUGH: As long as it takes! It is very serious.
CALLER 1: And that is what?
LIMBAUGH: This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. We stay as long -- just like your job. You do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.
CALLER 1: So then you say we need to stay there forever --
LIMBAUGH: I -- it won't --
CALLER 1: -- because that's what it'll take.
LIMBAUGH: No, Bill, or Mike -- I'm sorry. I'm confusing you with the guy from Texas.
CALLER 1: See, I -- I've used to be military, OK? And I am a Republican.
LIMBAUGH: Yeah. Yeah.
CALLER 1: And I do live [inaudible] but --
LIMBAUGH: Right. Right. Right, I know.
CALLER 1: -- you know, really -- I want you to be saying how long it's gonna take.
LIMBAUGH: And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!
CALLER 1: How long do we have to stay there?
LIMBAUGH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question. That's not what you want to hear, so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up.
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LIMBAUGH: Another Mike, this one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.
CALLER 2: Hi Rush, thanks for taking my call.
LIMBAUGH: You bet.
CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I've been serving for 14 years, very proudly.
LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.
CALLER 2: And, you know, I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I'm proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there, it'd take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse, and we'd have to go right back over there within a year or so. And --
LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't even -- if -- the next guy that calls here, I'm gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out? They can't -- I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "Well, we just gotta bring the troops home."
CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what --
LIMBAUGH: "Save the -- keep the troops safe" or whatever. I -- it's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.
CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.
LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.
CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.
LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined --
CALLER 2: A lot of them -- the new kids, yeah.
LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.
CALLER 2: Exactly, sir.
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| AB..... apparently quoting verbatim what someone says is a dirty trick,, General Gerber does not want anyone held to what they say.. unless of course it is Move On... He remains the dumbest pile of shit in this forum.. It is a title he apparently is proud of because he goes out of his way daily to make sure he remains on top. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
| You are different with republican soldiers? |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
You are different with republican soldiers? |
I have NEVER called a Republican soldier a "phony". If they say something that can be proven wrong, I will do that.
If you are accusing me of something, back it up with proof. |
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| Porcupine |
Phony soldiers?
Real soldiers?
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| Bronks Breasts |
| Actually.. General Gerber Patton ( zimmie ) would know a real phony soldier |
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| flamslam64 |
| If I am not mistaken the phony soldier he is referring to is the one I talked about before. It is not based on the caller in this instance. |
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| kali |
you'll NEVER see LimpPaw be a man and go off to Iraq.
Never |
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
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I just spilled my coffee looking at that picture
:D :D :D :D :D :D |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
I just spilled my coffee looking at that picture
:D :D :D :D :D :D |
If you DON'T laugh when looking at a picture of that mellon-headed coward, there is something wrong with you ;) |
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| harley-davidson |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
If you DON'T laugh when looking at a picture of that mellon-headed coward, there is something wrong with you ;) |
I'd love to feed him that fucking cigar.....LIT |
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| JUST1COMMENT |
Quote: Originally posted by Kill Van Kull
I don't even think Rush himself believes his own drivel most of the time. I'm almost convinced that his entire shtick is a put-on and that he is laughing at the morons who think it's real all the way to the bank.
Just like professional wrestling.
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TRUST ME. He doesn't believe the shit he spews. It's a known fact the guy is actually fearful of his own fans.
When you've made millions of dollars off the stupidity of a certain group of people in this country, then you know which side your bread (or fucking loaf, in Rush's case) is buttered. He doesn't live amongst the shitstains who buy into his bullshit. The guy lives in NYC and Palm Beach...no where near the low life red state douchebags who love him the most. It's the same with Ann Coulter.
As Stewie (Family Guy) would say: "Dance, puppets! Dance!"
The best thing anyone can do is not post anything from that attention-seeking whore. |
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| Kill Van Kull |
I listen to Rush often -- the phony part of his show is most, if not all, of the callers that claim to be military members of service, are phony actors.
They're likely calling from the back of his studio. Because from my experience, the overwhelming majority of military personnel think that Iraq is wrong, Bush is a criminal and that Rush is a big fat idiot.
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| sixsixsix666 |
| What about the generals who are speaking out n favor of the military achievements? |
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| zimmie |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
What about the generals who are speaking out n favor of the military achievements? |
ssshhhh...now you've found their phony soldiers..........like the Democrats amd moveon.org's poster boy
General BetrayUs. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
What about the generals who are speaking out n favor of the military achievements? |
I assume you are talking about General Patreaus, who inserted HIMSELF into political discussions by writing a pro-Bush opinion piece before the 2004 election. If you want to stay out of the debate, don't write political editorials.
Who else? Post specific cases, not generalizations and hypotheticals. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
ssshhhh...now you've found their phony soldiers..........like the Democrats amd moveon.org's poster boy
General BetrayUs. |
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Look who's talking!!!!
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/foru...threadid=216518 |
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| Kill Van Kull |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
What about the generals who are speaking out n favor of the military achievements? |
What about them? Most of the retired generals have gone public and been highly critical of the Iraq debacle and Bush in general.
Which fits exactly what i stated in my previous post.
Knucklehead. How's your sneaker taste?
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by flamslam64
I believe he was speaking about a particular person. I cannot recall the guys name but apparently their is this supposed ex-soldier railing against the war. He has supposedly been exposed as a fraud (he was kicked out of the military after 40 something days and was never in Iraq). I think that is what he was talking about. |
http://www.sternfannetwork.com/foru...430#post9804430 |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Rike
the fake outrage is strong here. |
Go fuck yourself, chickenshit.
If you agree with this turd, you MULT, I don't want to hear you "support" the troops ever again.
You, LUSH and the rest of your ilk are anti-american scum and deserve to get the shit beat out of you. PUSSY. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
don't let the facts get in the way of blind hatred.... |
facts? it's a fact because this guy said he thought he was talking about some dude who lied? Or because your fagot heros get exposed once again?
Blind hatred? Kinda like the hatred you have for dems? Douchebag. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
What about the generals who are speaking out n favor of the military achievements? |
What about the generals who say bush's war is bullshit? What about the generals who bush fired? Lambasted by the wrong, every one of them. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by zimmie
ssshhhh...now you've found their phony soldiers..........like the Democrats amd moveon.org's poster boy
General BetrayUs. |
What about the generals who say bush's war is bullshit? What about the generals who bush fired? Lambasted by the wrong, every one of them.
Go enlist pussy dimmie. You didn't do before. Because you are a COWARDLY CUNT. |
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| sixsixsix666 |
ChaseDC, have you enlisted?
Quote:
Chickenhawk (also chicken hawk and chicken-hawk) is a political epithet used in the United States to criticize a politician, bureaucrat, or commentator who strongly supports a war or other military action, but has never personally been in a war, especially if that person actively avoided military service when of draft age.
The term is meant to indicate that the person in question is cowardly or hypocritical for personally avoiding combat in the past while advocating that others go to war in the present. Generally, the implication is that "chickenhawks" lack the experience, judgment, or moral standing to make decisions about going to war.
The term was first applied to vocal supporters of military action who were perceived to have used family connections or college deferments to avoid serving in previous wars, particularly the Vietnam War. In current usage, the label is used almost exclusively to describe ardent supporters of the Iraq War who have themselves never been in combat; it is seldom if ever used with respect to supporters of the (more broadly supported) war in Afghanistan as such. Those who use the term are generally but not always on the anti war political left; political right in favor of military action are generally but not always on the receiving end of the insult. The label is not usually applied to women (who were historically, in most countries, barred by law from serving in combat). People who use the term have not necessarily been in the military themselves; people labeled "chickenhawks" have sometimes served in the military, but have not seen combat.
Critics argue that the term represents an ad hominem argument, that it is historically unsound, that it is inconsistently applied, and/or that it suggests ideas that are contrary to fundamental American principles, such as the ability to have an opinion or support war without needing to serve in the military.
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by ChaseDC
What about the generals who say bush's war is bullshit? What about the generals who bush fired? Lambasted by the wrong, every one of them.
Go enlist pussy dimmie. You didn't do before. Because you are a COWARDLY CUNT. |
Chase, don't you remember? he was a unit member of the elite diaper pail commandos. |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
ChaseDC, have you enlisted? |
over the enlistement cutoff age. What's your excuse, mult? |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
Chase, don't you remember? he was a unit member of the elite diaper pail commandos. |
Oh, I do. As I have asked him before, I was wondering if my 3 1/2 old son was too old to join his toddler military. |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by sixsixsix666
ChaseDC, have you enlisted? |
Your post only makes sense if you can point out Chase's SUPPORT for the war, you fucking idiot.....
LOL |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Your post only makes sense if you can point out Chase's SUPPORT for the war, you fucking idiot.....
LOL |
Take everything that includes logic and reasoning, spin it hypocritically, and then spew it back.
It's today's Republican way! :ps: |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Your post only makes sense if you can point out Chase's SUPPORT for the war, you fucking idiot.....
LOL |
As usual, the typical retards cant. |
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| artechba |
| I recommend Rush doesn't go near any army base for a while |
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| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
I recommend Rush doesn't go near any army base for a while |
I don't think that will be a chore for him.... :p |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
I recommend Rush doesn't go near any army base for a while |
He likes to claim that the troops love him...
A couple of years back I was in a car riding with a Rush lover, and he had the show on.
Caller claimed to be a serving trooper, deployed. The guy didn't sound squared away in any way, and I commented that the guy sounded full of shit to me.
The Rush fan, who is my age and was 4-F in 69, went into his version of the Scott Depace rant (I'll post another thread about this douche this evening.) Rush came all over himself agreeing with the "trooper" and for my personal Depace, that was all he needed to hear.
The fact that I had been there and had come to a different conclusion didn't matter, Rush and the caller agreed with Mr. 4F, and that's what mattered |
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| Rike |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
He likes to claim that the troops love him...
A couple of years back I was in a car riding with a Rush lover, and he had the show on.
Caller claimed to be a serving trooper, deployed. The guy didn't sound squared away in any way, and I commented that the guy sounded full of shit to me.
The Rush fan, who is my age and was 4-F in 69, went into his version of the Scott Depace rant (I'll post another thread about this douche this evening.) Rush came all over himself agreeing with the "trooper" and for my personal Depace, that was all he needed to hear.
The fact that I had been there and had come to a different conclusion didn't matter, Rush and the caller agreed with Mr. 4F, and that's what mattered |
It sounds like you're saying this guy was a PHONY SOLDIER! :D
It's a good thing we have a double standard around here for left wing idiots. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by Rike
It sounds like you're saying this guy was a PHONY SOLDIER! :D
It's a good thing we have a double standard around here for left wing idiots. |
its a sad thing you can't comprehend what max wrote in his post. |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by Rike
It sounds like you're saying this guy was a PHONY SOLDIER! :D
It's a good thing we have a double standard around here for left wing idiots. |
to be a phony soldier, first he must be a soldier. considering 4-f meant he wasnt drafted i doubt he can be considered a soldier. |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
to be a phony soldier, first he must be a soldier. considering 4-f meant he wasnt drafted i doubt he can be considered a soldier. |
cut Rike a break, he's still trying to figure out who is who in the P&N forum and what his opinions really are |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
cut Rike a break, he's still trying to figure out who is who in the P&N forum and what his opinions really are |
sorry, i thought i was going rather easy on him. i didnt even call him any names. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
cut Rike a break, he's still trying to figure out who is who in the P&N forum and what his opinions really are |
He's trying to get VTW and NCMike to back his silly bullshit up. Much like DUDE-HERE, he trolls the forum looking for validation for his opinions.
Everyone wants to be "someone" on the internets. :rolleyes: |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
sorry, i thought i was going rather easy on him. i didnt even call him any names. |
:lol: you can call him a douchebag or dickface - just please don't call him a scamming loan officer ;) |
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| curleydan |
Quote: Originally posted by Oz
:lol: you can call him a douchebag or dickface - just please don't call him a scamming loan officer ;) |
could there possibly be a worse insult that being called a scamming loan officer???? |
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| Oz |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
could there possibly be a worse insult that being called a scamming loan officer???? |
a "scamming loan officer that's bad at their job"? :dunno: |
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| curleydan |
| which is worse, scamming loan officer or slimy used car salesman? |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by Rike
It sounds like you're saying this guy was a PHONY SOLDIER! :D
It's a good thing we have a double standard around here for left wing idiots. |
Here's my bona fides:
11BP, 89D, 18B USA 69 - 75, VN 70-71. Echo Co, 2nd of the 327th, 101st ABN.
76-77 Vinnell corp., Saudi. Trained SANG in small arms and anti-tank weapons.
78-80 DSS (Diplomatic Security Service) Beirut, Lebanon.
03 - 04 DynCorp. Afghanistan 03, Iraq 03-04.
If I don't recognize a phony when I hear one, I should give back my CIB. |
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| artechba |
Quote: Originally posted by Max-the-Silent
Here's my bona fides:
11BP, 89D, 18B USA 69 - 75, VN 70-71. Echo Co, 2nd of the 327th, 101st ABN.
76-77 Vinnell corp., Saudi. Trained SANG in small arms and anti-tank weapons.
78-80 DSS (Diplomatic Security Service) Beirut, Lebanon.
03 - 04 DynCorp. Afghanistan 03, Iraq 03-04.
If I don't recognize a phony when I hear one, I should give back my CIB. |
They'll have to google CIB :D
So you're the Screaming Eagle for life then? |
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| Halcyon |
| When will zimmie the child-fucker give his "bona fides"? |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
When will zimmie the child-fucker give his "bona fides"? |
The same time my 3 y.o. does. :D |
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| ChaseDC |
Quote: Originally posted by curleydan
which is worse, scamming loan officer or slimy used car salesman? |
can there be a tie? |
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| Max-the-Silent |
Quote: Originally posted by artechba
They'll have to google CIB :D
So you're the Screaming Eagle for life then? |
On my right shoulder. I was lucky. Lots of Airborne unassigned troops went to shit units at in processing. The 101st had transitioned to Airmobile by the time I got there, and I was just plain lucky to get into the 2/327. |
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| Thorswhore |
call the FCC and report him for being offensive. demand a fine.
ALL SFN'er should call the FCC complaining about Rush. |
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