|
Note: This is a Text only archive. Go directly to the real forum.
Gay in School-cool with Dems
- Click HERE to go to the original thread with graphics
banner
| Gay in School-cool with Dems
- Click HERE to go to the original thread with graphics
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Do you think a child , raised in a homosexual environment , could be taught to be a homosexual? |
I'm sure that is possible.
A youngster is very impressionable and may assume the behavior is normal and to be emulated. That is probably why they want to start this "education" in the second grade.
In the end the Left would love to make schools as appeared in Vietnam after the fall of the government there. They want all to think the same and all of course be loyal to them.
The Left uses words like "diversity", however that is only useful to them when diversity is in regard to the cultural background or race of a minority group. It has no use to them in regard to diversity in thought. Thought diversity is a no-no. The Leftist "diversity" trumps all things. One is no longer "Black" if one does not vote a certain way or think a certain way, a Leftist way. If someone goes outside of the Leftist Gay Agenda... well you can see right in this thread what happens. They pull out every trick in their little Red Book.
The ultimate goal being power. But, it is the Leftist agenda that is the cause. Just because they use race as a way to get votes and support, but they will also throw them away once power is achieved. Even though the Gay Agenda is useful to them, that too is only for power and they have no problem casting aside what brought them. They are no more caring of homosexuals than they accuse others of not being.
President Bush of course put the first black Secretary of State and the second, but they are not "Black". Justice Thomas is not "Black". Bill Clinton is the so-called first "Black" President. What did he do? Nothing for Blacks. Nothing, zip...zilch...nada.
The Left wants all to think like them and that means power to them. Although the failure of Communism is all around us. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I'm sure that is possible.
A youngster is very impressionable and may assume the behavior is normal and to be emulated. That is probably why they want to start this "education" in the second grade.
In the end the Left would love to make schools as appeared in Vietnam after the fall of the government there. They want all to think the same and all of course be loyal to them.
The Left uses words like "diversity", however that is only useful to them when diversity is in regard to the cultural background or race of a minority group. It has no use to them in regard to diversity in thought. Thought diversity is a no-no. The Leftist "diversity" trumps all things. One is no longer "Black" if one does not vote a certain way or think a certain way, a Leftist way. If someone goes outside of the Leftist Gay Agenda... well you can see right in this thread what happens. They pull out every trick in their little Red Book.
The ultimate goal being power. But, it is the Leftist agenda that is the cause. Just because they use race as a way to get votes and support, but they will also throw them away once power is achieved. Even though the Gay Agenda is useful to them, that too is only for power and they have no problem casting aside what brought them. They are no more caring of homosexuals than they accuse others of not being.
President Bush of course put the first black Secretary of State and the second, but they are not "Black". Justice Thomas is not "Black". Bill Clinton is the so-called first "Black" President. What did he do? Nothing for Blacks. Nothing, zip...zilch...nada.
The Left wants all to think like them and that means power to them. Although the failure of Communism is all around us. |
Post ONE real example of this happening or crawl back under your rock. |
|
|
| JTProcess |
| I think the term "Internalized Homophobia" adequately describes a neurosis that belongs to 90% of all Republicans. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Sexual Orientation, Parents, &
Children
Adopted by the APA Council of Representatives July 28 & 30, 2004.
RESEARCH SUMMARY
Lesbian and Gay Parents
Many lesbians and gay men are parents. In the 2000 U. S. Census, 33% of female same-sex couple households and 22% of male same-sex couple households reported at least one child under the age of 18 living in the home. Despite the significant presence of at least 163,879 households headed by lesbian or gay parents in U.S. society, three major concerns about lesbian and gay parents are commonly voiced (Falk, 1994; Patterson, Fulcher & Wainright, 2002). These include concerns that lesbians and gay men are mentally ill, that lesbians are less maternal than heterosexual women, and that lesbians' and gay men's relationships with their sexual partners leave little time for their relationships with their children. In general, research has failed to provide a basis for any of these concerns (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). First, homosexuality is not a psychological disorder (Conger, 1975). Although exposure to prejudice and discrimination based on sexual orientation may cause acute distress (Mays & Cochran, 2001; Meyer, 2003), there is no reliable evidence that homosexual orientation per se impairs psychological functioning. Second, beliefs that lesbian and gay adults are not fit parents have no empirical foundation (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002). Lesbian and heterosexual women have not been found to differ markedly in their approaches to child rearing (Patterson, 2000; Tasker, 1999). Members of gay and lesbian couples with children have been found to divide the work involved in childcare evenly, and to be satisfied with their relationships with their partners (Patterson, 2000, 2004a). The results of some studies suggest that lesbian mothers' and gay fathers' parenting skills may be superior to those of matched heterosexual parents. There is no scientific basis for concluding that lesbian mothers or gay fathers are unfit parents on the basis of their sexual orientation (Armesto, 2002; Patterson, 2000; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). On the contrary, results of research suggest that lesbian and gay parents are as likely as heterosexual parents to provide supportive and healthy environments for their children. Return to top of the page
Children of Lesbian and Gay Parents
As the social visibility and legal status of lesbian and gay parents has increased, three major concerns about the influence of lesbian and gay parents on children have been often voiced (Falk, 1994; Patterson, Fulcher & Wainright, 2002). One is that the children of lesbian and gay parents will experience more difficulties in the area of sexual identity than children of heterosexual parents. For instance, one such concern is that children brought up by lesbian mothers or gay fathers will show disturbances in gender identity and/or in gender role behavior. A second category of concerns involves aspects of children's personal development other than sexual identity. For example, some observers have expressed fears that children in the custody of gay or lesbian parents would be more vulnerable to mental breakdown, would exhibit more adjustment difficulties and behavior problems, or would be less psychologically healthy than other children. A third category of concerns is that children of lesbian and gay parents will experience difficulty in social relationships. For example, some observers have expressed concern that children living with lesbian mothers or gay fathers will be stigmatized, teased, or otherwise victimized by peers. Another common fear is that children living with gay or lesbian parents will be more likely to be sexually abused by the parent or by the parent's friends or acquaintances.
Results of social science research have failed to confirm any of these concerns about children of lesbian and gay parents (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Tasker, 1999). Research suggests that sexual identities (including gender identity, gender-role behavior, and sexual orientation) develop in much the same ways among children of lesbian mothers as they do among children of heterosexual parents (Patterson, 2004a). Studies of other aspects of personal development (including personality, self-concept, and conduct) similarly reveal few differences between children of lesbian mothers and children of heterosexual parents (Perrin, 2002; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999). However, few data regarding these concerns are available for children of gay fathers (Patterson, 2004b). Evidence also suggests that children of lesbian and gay parents have normal social relationships with peers and adults (Patterson, 2000, 2004a; Perrin, 2002; Stacey & Biblarz, 2001; Tasker, 1999; Tasker & Golombok, 1997). The picture that emerges from research is one of general engagement in social life with peers, parents, family members, and friends. Fears about children of lesbian or gay parents being sexually abused by adults, ostracized by peers, or isolated in single-sex lesbian or gay communities have received no scientific support. Overall, results of research suggest that the development, adjustment, and well-being of children with lesbian and gay parents do not differ markedly from that of children with heterosexual parents. Return to top of the page
http://www.apa.org/pi/lgbc/policy/parents.html |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Post ONE real example of this happening or crawl back under your rock. |
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
*FLUSH*
:crapper: |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Quite the contrary, crybaby... I am a very happy person. I simply enjoy clowning stupid assholes like yourself in my down time.
Oh, and you STILL did not answer the question... when can we expect an answer? Does it normally take 20 to 30 requests for you to answer a simple question?
Let's try another approach:
HOW WOULD THE STORY IN QUESTION AFFECT THE CHILDREN WHO HEARD IT? |
What would you tell a 6 year old child , when asked, "Why are the two men kissing "?
Remember , this child has no comprehnsion at all about gay relationships - or hetero probably for that matter.... |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Post ONE real example of this happening or crawl back under your rock. |
Here is what I wrote...
I'm sure that is possible.
A youngster is very impressionable and may assume the behavior is normal and to be emulated. That is probably why they want to start this "education" in the second grade.
In the end the Left would love to make schools as appeared in Vietnam after the fall of the government there. They want all to think the same and all of course be loyal to them.
Now, your paste does not tell the tale. We are in just the beginning stages of this Leftist experiment. The full effects will not be known for some time. I'm sure whatever the final verdict is it'll be too late to fix it. That is the problem with the Left. |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
...but...but...but...
...shut the fuck up, Stumpy, you delusional wreck of a human being...
:drool: |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
...but...but...but...
...shut the fuck up, Stumpy, you delusional wreck of a human being...
:drool: |
You survive because of me. You would be useless without me.
Remember that...
:) |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by StoneTroll
You survive because of me. You would be useless without me.
Remember that...
:) |
:drool: |
|
|
| Jeton |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
What would you tell a 6 year old child , when asked, "Why are the two men kissing "?
Remember , this child has no comprehnsion at all about gay relationships - or hetero probably for that matter.... |
:rolleyes:
what would you tell a 6yo, when asked, "why are the 2 men kissing?"...same as you'd tell them if a man and woman were kissing...
"they love each other"
what would you tell a 9yo?
"they're dating."
what would you tell a 12yo?
"that fool cant settle with one person."
what would you tell a 16yo?
"he's lonely and compulsive."
what would you tell a 20yo?
"ever notice how all of his partners look like his parents?"
THERE ya go...u had the courage/stupidity to ask stoned over here about kids being 'conditioned' to BECOME homosexual, an absurdity. Gay children like myself were CONDITIONED frombirth to be heterosexual, yet it never took...WHAT EXACTLY MAKES YOU THINK HETEROSEXUALITY IS SO ***PRECARIOUS*** that children can be so conditioned to be gay when that same conditioning so clearly fails to make gay children hetero?
incidentally, let's not forget BISEXUALITY, and one of it's interesting effects in a homophobic society...MOST bisexuals will grow up thinking of themselves as exclusively or mostly hetero (in fact few bisexuals are ever 50/50 toward both genders and tend to swing more one way than the other) HOWEVER, most bisexuals will also ALWAYS know at some level they are capable of attraction to both genders, so they develop this idea that THEY can be swayed, and if they can be, anyone can. this is false, they are merely feeling a buried part of themselves, but bi-curious people are often the very most homophobic. THEY perceive they have alot to lose via 'tolerance', so they guard against it where they can.
oh, and no, i have no kids, i've only closely helped raise over a dozen and uncle-d more (big Albanian family)...now that i've answered EVERY question you put to me, HOW ABOUT YOU ANSWER A SINGLE FUKN QUESTION I PUT TO YOU??!
SINCE THIS IS YOUR THREAD AND ALL. :rolleyes: |
|
|
| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
That's the problerm I have...More mandatory government bullshit.... |
ok, uncle jessie |
|
|
| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Here is what I wrote...
I'm sure that is possible.
A youngster is very impressionable and may assume the behavior is normal and to be emulated. That is probably why they want to start this "education" in the second grade.
In the end the Left would love to make schools as appeared in Vietnam after the fall of the government there. They want all to think the same and all of course be loyal to them.
Now, your paste does not tell the tale. We are in just the beginning stages of this Leftist experiment. The full effects will not be known for some time. I'm sure whatever the final verdict is it'll be too late to fix it. That is the problem with the Left. |
OK, stoney. You are still using this. What is "the Left"? To you. |
|
|
| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I'm sure that is possible.
A youngster is very impressionable and may assume the behavior is normal and to be emulated. That is probably why they want to start this "education" in the second grade.
In the end the Left would love to make schools as appeared in Vietnam after the fall of the government there. They want all to think the same and all of course be loyal to them.
The Left uses words like "diversity", however that is only useful to them when diversity is in regard to the cultural background or race of a minority group. It has no use to them in regard to diversity in thought. Thought diversity is a no-no. The Leftist "diversity" trumps all things. One is no longer "Black" if one does not vote a certain way or think a certain way, a Leftist way. If someone goes outside of the Leftist Gay Agenda... well you can see right in this thread what happens. They pull out every trick in their little Red Book.
The ultimate goal being power. But, it is the Leftist agenda that is the cause. Just because they use race as a way to get votes and support, but they will also throw them away once power is achieved. Even though the Gay Agenda is useful to them, that too is only for power and they have no problem casting aside what brought them. They are no more caring of homosexuals than they accuse others of not being.
President Bush of course put the first black Secretary of State and the second, but they are not "Black". Justice Thomas is not "Black". Bill Clinton is the so-called first "Black" President. What did he do? Nothing for Blacks. Nothing, zip...zilch...nada.
The Left wants all to think like them and that means power to them. Although the failure of Communism is all around us. |
:rolleyes: |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
What would you tell a 6 year old child , when asked, "Why are the two men kissing "?
Remember , this child has no comprehnsion at all about gay relationships - or hetero probably for that matter.... |
Were there men kissing in the story?
You claimed to have read the story..... |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Ah yes.... I love those "studies" where the authors RE-interpret the conclusions of other people's studies. This tactic is used by the global warming deniers also.
But maybe you should try reading your own studies before posting them?
From the study YOU suggested:
In an April 2001 article in the American Sociological Review, researchers Judith Stacey and Timothy Biblarz of the University of Southern California reported the results of their examination of 21 studies on gay parenting. Stacey and Biblarz found that although "the authors of all 21 studies almost uniformly claim to find no differences in measures of parenting or child outcomes," their examination of the data suggests that the children of gay parents demonstrate some differences in gender behavior and preferences. Lesbian mothers reported their children, especially daughters, are less likely to conform to cultural gender norms in dress, play, and behavior, and are more likely to aspire to nontraditional gender occupations, such as doctors, lawyers, or engineers. They also discovered that although the children of gay and lesbian parents are no more likely to identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual than the children of heterosexual parents, they are more likely to consider or experiment with same-sex relationships during young adulthood.
Stacey and Biblarz also found that the children of homosexual parents show no difference in levels of self-esteem, anxiety, depression, behavior problems, or social performance, but do show a higher level of affection, responsiveness, and concern for younger children and "seem to exhibit impressive psychological strength."
Gay parents were found to be more likely to equally share child care and household duties, and the children of gay partners reported closer relationships to the parent who was not their primary caregiver than did the children of heterosexual couples. "These findings imply that lesbian coparents may enjoy greater parental compatibility and achieve particularly high quality parenting skills, which may help explain the striking findings on parent-child relationships."
Stacey and Biblarz point out that the differences they found should not be considered deficits. "They either favor the children with lesbigay parents, are secondary effects of social prejudice, or represent 'just a difference' of the sort democratic societies should respect and protect." They go on to stress that categorizing parents as gay or heterosexual "erroneously impl[ies] that a parent's sexual orientation is the decisive characteristic of his or her parenting." They suggest that sexual orientation only matters because homophobia and discrimination say it matters.
http://library.adoption.com/Hoping-...cle/3948/1.html
I realize you are so dumb you just could not resist that title of the Boston Phoenix article, but you really should spend a few minutes READING the sources you link to. This one does NOT help your case, stupid :jj: :jj: :jj: :jj: |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Here is what I wrote...
I'm sure that is possible.
A youngster is very impressionable and may assume the behavior is normal and to be emulated. That is probably why they want to start this "education" in the second grade.
In the end the Left would love to make schools as appeared in Vietnam after the fall of the government there. They want all to think the same and all of course be loyal to them.
Now, your paste does not tell the tale. We are in just the beginning stages of this Leftist experiment. The full effects will not be known for some time. I'm sure whatever the final verdict is it'll be too late to fix it. That is the problem with the Left. |
Yeah, there were no gays until just a few years ago, right? :rolleyes:
"Beginning stages".....
what a fucking idiot. |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Yeah, there were no gays until just a few years ago, right? :rolleyes:
"Beginning stages".....
what a fucking idiot. |
OK.
Getting back on topic... It is apparent that the current generation, perhaps adults, are not confused about, or unknowing in regard to homosexuality. People seem to know about it and we did not learn it in the second grade. What reasoning would one have for pushing it on grade schoolers now?
Indoctrination is why.
The Left wants to preach their religion. Grade schoolers cannot pray in school but learning of homosexual sodomy is just fine, apparently. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
| Nice try, Stumpedballs. Homosexuality is a biological and sociological FACT. Religion is an unproven fairy tale. And somehow I don't think you are open to ALL religions and their beliefs. You really meant to say "christian prayer", didn't you? |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Now "the media" is creating gay children, CL?
Bwaaaahaha!!!!
Just let us know when you are interested in actually discussing the issue.....
LOL |
|
|
| Jeton |
:saiyan: you DARE to quote this long discredited cunt with her degree from a box of Crackerjack? you should have started with Dr Laura, so u'd be a mere laughingstock. with "doctor" Reisman, you have announced yourself an utterly brainless piece of shit... |
|
|
| Jeton |
| try googling that bitch's name and see all the creationist 'erototoxin' crap she cooks up...:hw: |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Jeton
:saiyan: you DARE to quote this long discredited cunt with her degree from a box of Crackerjack? you should have started with Dr Laura, so u'd be a mere laughingstock. with "doctor" Reisman, you have announced yourself an utterly brainless piece of shit... |
Wow....Little hot under the collar today? Hope it isn't problems with the boyfriend(s).... |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
So you have no response for using a debunked, discredited study as your source?
What a suprise. |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
So you have no response for using a debunked, discredited study as your source?
What a suprise. |
How is it discredited or debunked....? |
|
|
| Jeton |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
How is it discredited or debunked....? |
google may be your only friend...until the end. |
|
|
| Halcyon |
LOL @ cunning lingo
This thread did not go as you planned, did it? |
|
|
| SaintJimmy |
Bill Condon's new movie, "Kinsey" may have reawakened America's interest in the largely forgotten but influential post-War era sex researcher Dr. Alfred Kinsey, but for Judith Reisman, he has been a singular obsession for decades. Reisman has cast herself as the anti-Kinsey, a self-styled moral monger in an existential – and admittedly personal – battle with the forces of cultural decay and sexual permissiveness. In her writings and lectures, Reisman conjures a dark world in which Playboy magazine insidiously pushes kiddie-porn, where homosexuals crusade for the hearts and behinds of America's youth and "erotoxins" as powerful as crack cocaine fill the somatasensory cortexes of porn watchers. From Reisman's writings and lectures, one could get the impression that this world is entirely the creation of Kinsey, the Master of Perverts.
While Reisman's ideas have naturally endeared her to a Who's Who of ornery theocrats and survivalist militia types, in recent years she has found herself kibitzing with the likes of GOP senators and Bush administration officials. Though the "Dr." that precedes her name on her book and her web site is practically cosmetic, earned with a degree in communications, this November she provided expert testimony on Capitol Hill for Republican Sen. Sam Brownback on the scientific perils of pornography. There, she also lobbied for the reintroduction of a bill that would mandate an investigation into her claim that Kinsey sexually abused children during his research. Through friends in the Justice Department, Reisman has helped push for an increased focus on prosecuting porn. And she is a favorite speaker at conferences of the Abstinence Clearinghouse, a federally funded non-profit which provides technical assistance to controversial abstinence-only programs in public schools. As Reisman gathers influence in Republican-dominated Washington, her work is bearing an increasingly apparent mark on the Christian right's political agenda and by extension, on the White House's social policy.
"As president and founder of the Abstinence Clearinghouse, Judith Reisman has affected my life personally through the enormous amount of scientific research she's done – and without Judith's impact on my life, I don't believe the abstinence community would have been impacted," Abstinence Clearinghouse founder, Leslee Unruh, told me. The Abstinence Clearinghouse, advised by members of conservative Christian groups like Focus on the Family, Concerned Women for America and Coral Ridge Ministries, is funded in part by the Department of Health and Human Services. As the spearhead of the abstinence-only movement, its primary task is to design and disseminate curricula to public schools which administer abstinence-only courses.
Yeah, I'm quite sure that there's nothing biased about this "study" you linked. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Well...... that just about does it for Cunning Lingo in this thread.
LOL!!! |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Why can't kids today learn about homosexuality the old fashioned way, from a priest... just kidding.
:)
Seriously though, like everyone learned about it. The "Wild Kingdom" and Animal Planet. Discovery Channel. |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Why can't kids today learn about homosexuality the old fashioned way, from a priest... just kidding.
:)
Seriously though, like everyone learned about it. The "Wild Kingdom" and Animal Planet. Discovery Channel. |
When I was growing up, in fourth grade, the boys were hustled into the Cafeteria, and the girls were sent to the Library.
They showed us films. The Boys learned about their sexual reproductive organs, and so did the Girls. They explained what they were for, how they worked, and what would happen during Puberty.
I remember in fourth grade how I wanted nothing more than to go to the Library and learn about the girls reproductive system rather than watching my own. I could have cared less how my shit worked back then.
In any case, it didn't scar me for life to learn about sexual reproduction. Nothing about homosexuality was even brought up.
What is it that specifically scares you about schools teaching sexuality? |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Stompedballs, we are all still waiting for your scientific proof that people are born cannibals.
And stop attempting to be funny..... your "jokes" go over like a turd in the punchbowl. |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
When I was growing up, in fourth grade, the boys were hustled into the Cafeteria, and the girls were sent to the Library.
They showed us films. The Boys learned about their sexual reproductive organs, and so did the Girls. They explained what they were for, how they worked, and what would happen during Puberty.
I remember in fourth grade how I wanted nothing more than to go to the Library and learn about the girls reproductive system rather than watching my own. I could have cared less how my shit worked back then.
In any case, it didn't scar me for life to learn about sexual reproduction. Nothing about homosexuality was even brought up.
What is it that specifically scares you about schools teaching sexuality? |
Well Andy, I started this to voice my opinion that 2nd graders are too young to learn about gay relationships. ( Any relationships for that matter)1000 views later , it's came to this....
However,
4rth grade was around the age I did the same as you in school. I believe we even had to get a parents signature to particapate in the
"sex ed" ....... |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
When I was growing up, in fourth grade, the boys were hustled into the Cafeteria, and the girls were sent to the Library.
They showed us films. The Boys learned about their sexual reproductive organs, and so did the Girls. They explained what they were for, how they worked, and what would happen during Puberty.
I remember in fourth grade how I wanted nothing more than to go to the Library and learn about the girls reproductive system rather than watching my own. I could have cared less how my shit worked back then.
In any case, it didn't scar me for life to learn about sexual reproduction. Nothing about homosexuality was even brought up.
What is it that specifically scares you about schools teaching sexuality? |
That is really really good. I got to hand it to you. Implying that I have a problem with schools teaching sexuality... Great.
You guys on the Left are good, taught well to throw things in to marginalize others or to control the conversation.
Well Done. |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Well Andy, I started this to voice my opinion that 2nd graders are too young to learn about gay relationships. ( Any relationships for that matter)1000 views later , it's came to this....
However,
4rth grade was around the age I did the same as you in school. I believe we even had to get a parents signature to particapate in the
"sex ed" ....... |
You're absolutely right. Kids who didn't have Parental consent were not allowed to watch the video. |
|
|
| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Why can't kids today learn about homosexuality the old fashioned way, from a priest... just kidding.
:)
|
:lol:
Stoney, I gotta tell you: We may not be on the same side politically but you're funny when you try to be. |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
That is really really good. I got to hand it to you. Implying that I have a problem with schools teaching sexuality... Great.
You guys on the Left are good, taught well to throw things in to marginalize others or to control the conversation.
Well Done. |
Well, if my confusion about your position isn't an indication that you're a backpeddling pussy who never sticks to one conviction, and instead deflects multiple times using irrelevant correlations to topics not strictly to the point of the thread, then I don't know what else could be the indicator. |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Well, if my confusion about your position isn't an indication that you're a backpeddling pussy who never sticks to one conviction, and instead deflects multiple times using irrelevant correlations to topics not strictly to the point of the thread, then I don't know what else could be the indicator. |
So you are a Leftist tool even when confused? I'll accept that. |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
So you are a Leftist tool even when confused? I'll accept that. |
*shrug* I accept that you're a racist.
In any case, it's no wonder since you can't answer a straight question. |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
*shrug* I accept that you're a racist.
In any case, it's no wonder since you can't answer a straight question. |
Of course you consider me that. It enables you to live in denial.
I have answered all the questions.
Why does the Left tinker so much? I tell you what, go clean up the mess of the Ghetto created by "The Great Society"... Then we'll discuss the Left's latest social experiment. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Well Andy, I started this to voice my opinion that 2nd graders are too young to learn about gay relationships. ( Any relationships for that matter)1000 views later , it's came to this....
However,
4rth grade was around the age I did the same as you in school. I believe we even had to get a parents signature to particapate in the
"sex ed" ....... |
For the 1 millionth time:
What did the story have to do with "sex ed"?
What SPECIFICALLY about the story would the kids not be able to understand?
And nice job ignoring the fact that your study is a fucking joke, just like you. |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
For the 1 millionth time:
What did the story have to do with "sex ed"?
What SPECIFICALLY about the story would the kids not be able to understand?
And nice job ignoring the fact that your study is a fucking joke, just like you. |
I know this is horrible. Why can't we all get our views from "thinkprogress" or "moveon" or "welovecastro" or "pleasebringbacktheussr"? |
|
|
| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I know this is horrible. Why can't we all get our views from "thinkprogress" or "moveon" or "welovecastro" or "pleasebringbacktheussr"? |
Stoney, your boy Bush has brought us closer to soviet-like rule than any dem....secret wiretaps, holding people without letting them talk to an attorney, checking library records, etc.
"thinkprogress," moveon," etc are all at least as valid as Fox News and more valid than Hanratty, O'Reilly and Limbaugh (loudmouth entertainers, not newsmen). |
|
|
| ArivacaCharlie |
Let me add this as a PS to post #145:
The two most socialist presidents in recent times have both been Republicans (Nixon and Dubya). |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
For the 1 millionth time:
What did the story have to do with "sex ed"?
What SPECIFICALLY about the story would the kids not be able to understand?
And nice job ignoring the fact that your study is a fucking joke, just like you. |
Fuck you - read it yourself..... |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
You bore me ,Fuck you - read it yourself..... |
|
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
Let me add this as a PS to post #145:
The two most socialist presidents in recent times have both been Republicans (Nixon and Dubya). |
Certainly in deed if nothing else. Although LBJ still is FDR Jr. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Fuck you - read it yourself..... |
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
Why are you having such a hard time articulating your intolerance? |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I know this is horrible. Why can't we all get our views from "thinkprogress" or "moveon" or "welovecastro" or "pleasebringbacktheussr"? |
Yeah, it's too much to ask for you and your hatemonger friend to back up your intolerant stupidity with real FACTS, isn't it?
Sorry to make your head explode again, Stumpedballs.
:jj: :jj: :jj: |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
Why are you having such a hard time articulating your intolerance? |
Gay people scare him, so he's angry. But he doesn't want everyone here to know he bashes gay people on the weekends. |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
:bigcry: :bigcry: :bigcry:
Why are you having such a hard time articulating your intolerance? |
I'm having a swell time :) It's you who seems to be disturbed by my intolerance of this... I've articulated it enough for everyone here , except you, to understand my feelings on it. So , it really doesn't break my heart that there is one lost retard out there that doesn't understand me. |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Gay people scare him, so he's angry. But he doesn't want everyone here to know he bashes gay people on the weekends. |
I said I don't agree with their lifestyles tubby...Never said I hate'em. You and your boyfriend are safe. I'm not out looking for ya... |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
I'm having a swell time :) It's you who seems to be disturbed by my intolerance of this... I've articulated it enough for everyone here , except you, to understand my feelings on it. So , it really doesn't break my heart that there is one lost retard out there that doesn't understand me. |
You have? What exactly have you articulated? That you have no reason for believing that 2nd graders can't understand a simple children's story? :p
Why do you still avoid answering such simple questions about the book you claimed to have read? Why can't you tell us what part of the story the kids won't understand?
You can tell us.... YOU didn't understand the story so you are assuming the kids won't. :jj: :jj: :jj: |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
I said I don't agree with their lifestyles tubby...Never said I hate'em. You and your boyfriend are safe. I'm not out looking for ya... |
Please elaborate. What don't you "agree" with :jj: :jj: :jj: |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Please elaborate. What don't you "agree" with :jj: :jj: :jj: |
It's awesome that he's so intolerant, he feels that there is something to 'agree/disagree' to about homosexuality.
This kind of blind ignorance seems to really shine through on SFN. I swear this board is like watching trailer park trash on Jerry Springer. The idiots have no problems backing themselves into a corner of intolerance and hate, then they eventually meltdown in an explosion of racism.
I'll wait patiently now while cunning lingo explains what exactly is supposed to be 'agreeable' to him about homosexuality. |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
You have? What exactly have you articulated? That you have no reason for believing that 2nd graders can't understand a simple children's story? :p
Why do you still avoid answering such simple questions about the book you claimed to have read? Why can't you tell us what part of the story the kids won't understand?
You can tell us.... YOU didn't understand the story so you are assuming the kids won't. :jj: :jj: :jj: |
A simple story..LOL Maybe in your household.
a SMALL child will not understand a "love" story between two men... At they age, they arn't even studying relationships in general. What makes it hard for you to see that this book is being pushed through on a gay agenda ? Why should public schools be pushing an agenda as such? Especially when the percent of gays with kids in any random public school is probably 0-3%. There are probably more kids with parents that drink and do drugs. Why not have an " My Dad the Alchoholic" book for 'em? |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Yeah, it's too much to ask for you and your hatemonger friend to back up your intolerant stupidity with real FACTS, isn't it?
Sorry to make your head explode again, Stumpedballs.
:jj: :jj: :jj: |
Yeah, it is 'hatred' when someone has a view different than you.
Lets take you as an example. You did not learn homosexuality in the second grade and look how you turned out.
:)
If things stay the same the worst that can happen is you. |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
It's awesome that he's so intolerant, he feels that there is something to 'agree/disagree' to about homosexuality.
This kind of blind ignorance seems to really shine through on SFN. I swear this board is like watching trailer park trash on Jerry Springer. The idiots have no problems backing themselves into a corner of intolerance and hate, then they eventually meltdown in an explosion of racism.
I'll wait patiently now while cunning lingo explains what exactly is supposed to be 'agreeable' to him about homosexuality. |
Are you fucking for real? Jesus , go eat a fucking chalupa tubby and calm down... |
|
|
| Jeton |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
A simple story..LOL Maybe in your household.
a SMALL child will not understand a "love" story between two men... At they age, they arn't even studying relationships in general. What makes it hard for you to see that this book is being pushed through on a gay agenda ? Why should public schools be pushing an agenda as such? Especially when the percent of gays with kids in any random public school is probably 0-3%. There are probably more kids with parents that drink and do drugs. Why not have an " My Dad the Alchoholic" book for 'em? |
:rolleyes: stop being an idiot, ya idiot. nowhere is a 'gay love story' part of public school curricula...you are pretending that the mere fact that a story geared toward children has a same-gender couple in the background is prrof that the story is somehow focused on the couple and their relationship. this is false...find me the the "gay love story" amongst ANY of these books, ya fukn braindead liar.
"recruitment" talk, dropping Judith Reisman, avoiding answering any specific questions and allying mostly with stony...yea, an asshole u indeed are. :rolleyes: |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Jeton
:rolleyes: stop being an idiot, ya idiot. nowhere is a 'gay love story' part of public school curricula...you are pretending that the mere fact that a story geared toward children has a same-gender couple in the background is prrof that the story is somehow focused on the couple and their relationship. this is false...find me the the "gay love story" amongst ANY of these books, ya fukn braindead liar.
"recruitment" talk, dropping Judith Reisman, avoiding answering any specific questions and allying mostly with stony...yea, an asshole u indeed are. :rolleyes: |
Have you read the story? WTF do you think it's about. It's fucking typical of you hard lefties in here...always drinking the fucking kool-aid, but no clue what flavor it is.... |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Yeah, it is 'hatred' when someone has a view different than you.
Lets take you as an example. You did not learn homosexuality in the second grade and look how you turned out.
:)
If things stay the same the worst that can happen is you. |
No, it's HATRED when you baselessly claim people DIFFERENT from YOU are mentally ill and should be "fixed".
It might help your case if you had even a SHRED of scientific or other evidence to support your braindead opinions.... but I know that has never stopped you from making a fool out of yourself :p |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
A simple story..LOL Maybe in your household.
a SMALL child will not understand a "love" story between two men... At they age, they arn't even studying relationships in general. What makes it hard for you to see that this book is being pushed through on a gay agenda ? Why should public schools be pushing an agenda as such? Especially when the percent of gays with kids in any random public school is probably 0-3%. There are probably more kids with parents that drink and do drugs. Why not have an " My Dad the Alchoholic" book for 'em? |
So NOW being gay is the equivalent of being a drug addict or drunk? :jj: :jj: :jj:
What other kinds of stories do they read in 2nd grade? Anything with talking animals? We better not read those stories because kids might think animals can really talk, right?
The best part about this thread is that you are so fucking clueless you don't even realize what a fool you are making of yourself:jj: :jj: :jj: |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Have you read the story? WTF do you think it's about. It's fucking typical of you hard lefties in here...always drinking the fucking kool-aid, but no clue what flavor it is.... |
You are the one who claims to have read the story, yet you STILL cannot tell us what in this story would traumatize these kids.....
Why is that?
When did you read the story?
What is the plot?
Who are the characters?
Other than gender, how does this story differe from any other story the kids are read? |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Are you fucking for real? Jesus , go eat a fucking chalupa tubby and calm down... |
You're on the verge of a meltdown over this thread and _I_ need to calm down?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA It won't be long before your homophobic rantings expose you as a gaybasher. Then I'll watch the REAL fireworks fly as you meltdown in homophobic rants at Gay Tony.
I've seen it millions of times before on here. Face it dude, you're the equivalent to the white trash on stage at a Jerry Springer show in this forum.
And it cracks me up so hard to watch this thread you started burn you alive.
Seriously, no one could have started this thread and honestly expected it to go well for them.
What's best is you actually believe you're intelligent and that you've thought this all out and that you have an answer for all of it.
Meanwhile, you're getting fucking trounced from every angle in this thread and your constant use of CAPS LOCK to get your point across is a fucking riot to me.
How long do you have left at the local library to use their computer to post on before you have to go back to your trailer and fuck your sister? |
|
|
| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
You're on the verge of a meltdown over this thread and _I_ need to calm down?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA It won't be long before your homophobic rantings expose you as a gaybasher. Then I'll watch the REAL fireworks fly as you meltdown in homophobic rants at Gay Tony.
I've seen it millions of times before on here. Face it dude, you're the equivalent to the white trash on stage at a Jerry Springer show in this forum.
And it cracks me up so hard to watch this thread you started burn you alive.
Seriously, no one could have started this thread and honestly expected it to go well for them.
What's best is you actually believe you're intelligent and that you've thought this all out and that you have an answer for all of it.
Meanwhile, you're getting fucking trounced from every angle in this thread and your constant use of CAPS LOCK to get your point across is a fucking riot to me.
How long do you have left at the local library to use their computer to post on before you have to go back to your trailer and fuck your sister? |
LOL...You fucking weenie tot libs are in full effect...come get me...oh, my I'm melting from the pressure...lol You guys are a hoot Keep 'em coming !
Because I don't agree with gay sex, I'm now a racist homophobe ...Oh well! |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
LOL...You fucking weenie tot libs are in full effect...come get me...oh, my I'm melting from the pressure...lol You guys are a hoot Keep 'em coming !
Because I don't agree with gay sex, I'm now a racist homophobe ...Oh well! |
No, it's not your fault your a homophobe. I blame it on your inbreeding parents. *shrug* |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
No, it's HATRED when you baselessly claim people DIFFERENT from YOU are mentally ill and should be "fixed".
It might help your case if you had even a SHRED of scientific or other evidence to support your braindead opinions.... but I know that has never stopped you from making a fool out of yourself :p |
You act as if you have evidence that homosexuality is normal. So far the only "evidence" put forth by the other side is that animals engage in this behavior and that is what makes it "normal".
Lets not pretend you are using scientific or any other evidence.
Not accepting this as "normal" does not equal hatred. The only thing this conversation does is bewilder me that one would argue for teaching second graders about the animalistic joy of homosexual sodomy. |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
You act as if you have evidence that homosexuality is normal. So far the only "evidence" put forth by the other side is that animals engage in this behavior and that is what makes it "normal".
Lets not pretend you are using scientific or any other evidence.
Not accepting this as "normal" does not equal hatred. The only thing this conversation does is bewilder me that one would argue for teaching second graders about the animalistic joy of homosexual sodomy. |
Define what isn't "normal" about it. Be specific. Keep in mind that you have just debunked your own argument, you fucking idiot :jj: :jj:
People can be naturally born homosexual according to you, you claim that isn't "normal", but your only defense is that your opinion isn't being fairly considered ..... Nevermind that you have offered NO proof to back up your ignorant position.
LOL
You are a fucking moron. A first class idiot. That is like complaining that your theory that the world really IS flat isn't getting a fair shake.:jj: :jj: |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
LOL...You fucking weenie tot libs are in full effect...come get me...oh, my I'm melting from the pressure...lol You guys are a hoot Keep 'em coming !
Because I don't agree with gay sex, I'm now a racist homophobe ...Oh well! |
Still no answers? |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Define what isn't "normal" about it. Be specific. Keep in mind that you have just debunked your own argument, you fucking idiot :jj: :jj:
People can be naturally born homosexual according to you, you claim that isn't "normal", but your only defense is that your opinion isn't being fairly considered ..... Nevermind that you have offered NO proof to back up your ignorant position.
LOL
You are a fucking moron. A first class idiot. That is like complaining that your theory that the world really IS flat isn't getting a fair shake.:jj: :jj: |
Being born with something does not mean it is "normal". People are born with two heads and conjoined twins and mental illness including homosexuality... none of which is "normal".
I don't need a defense. Your the one wanting to engage in Leftist social engineering. You are the one who needs a defense for wanting to teach second graders about homosexuality.
The only defense I need is to say we are not animals. Considering your only proof of normalcy is found in a zoo. |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Being born with something does not mean it is "normal". People are born with two heads and conjoined twins and mental illness including homosexuality... none of which is "normal".
I don't need a defense. Your the one wanting to engage in Leftist social engineering. You are the one who needs a defense for wanting to teach second graders about homosexuality.
The only defense I need is to say we are not animals. Considering your only proof of normalcy is found in a zoo. |
HAHAHAHAHAHA Homosexuality is the same as physical birth defects! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
No wonder people laugh at you on this site.
Take a rest Stonewall, I think the stress of this site has caused you to crack.
You better take a nap, you're a mess. |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
HAHAHAHAHAHA Homosexuality is the same as physical birth defects! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
No wonder people laugh at you on this site.
Take a rest Stonewall, I think the stress of this site has caused you to crack.
You better take a nap, you're a mess. |
He has to wait for mommy to finish vacuuming under his bed... |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Being born with something does not mean it is "normal". People are born with two heads and conjoined twins and mental illness including homosexuality... none of which is "normal".
I don't need a defense. Your the one wanting to engage in Leftist social engineering. You are the one who needs a defense for wanting to teach second graders about homosexuality.
The only defense I need is to say we are not animals. Considering your only proof of normalcy is found in a zoo. |
Of course you don't need a defense... why on earth would you offer a defense of your totally unproven opinion that homosexuality is a mental illness....
After you finally decide to prove that, we can start taking you seriously. :jj: |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Of course you don't need a defense... why on earth would you offer a defense of your totally unproven opinion that homosexuality is a mental illness....
After you finally decide to prove that, we can start taking you seriously. :jj: |
...I guess after hearing that his Right-Wing Authoritarianism is classified as a mental disorder, he's all fired up to find others... |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Fdubya247
He has to wait for mommy to finish vacuuming under his bed... |
HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
That is good.
:) |
|
|
| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
HAHAHAHAHAAA!!!
That is good.
:) |
Go to bed dude, you're through. |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Of course you don't need a defense... why on earth would you offer a defense of your totally unproven opinion that homosexuality is a mental illness....
After you finally decide to prove that, we can start taking you seriously. :jj: |
The problem is, besides your commenting on what I say, you offer no proof otherwise. Really for me to take up your side the only thing I can argue is that animals do it.
Meanwhile procreation must continue. That alone is proof that two males or two females are not normal as a couple. The human race would cease to exist if we were all born... as you call it, "normal". How that is "normal" I do not know.
Please prove this "normal"... |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
Stumpy's "lojik" is impeccable...
:rolleyes: |
|
|
| Ass Boil |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
The problem is, besides your commenting on what I say, you offer no proof otherwise. Really for me to take up your side the only thing I can argue is that animals do it.
Meanwhile procreation must continue. That alone is proof that two males or two females are not normal as a couple. The human race would cease to exist if we were all born... as you call it, "normal". How that is "normal" I do not know.
Please prove this "normal"... |
You fucking dolt, YOU are the one who made the idiotic claim. The burden of proof is on YOU to back up your stupid comments with FACTS. Otherwise we can only assume they are like your knowledge of religion, wholly created in the mind of an impotent conservative malcontent.
YOU claimed it was a "mental disorder", and despite being asked several times to post evidence supporting your claim, all you could come up with was someone's poorly written college term paper.
Try again, stumpedballs. :jj: |
|
|
| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
You fucking dolt, YOU are the one who made the idiotic claim. The burden of proof is on YOU to back up your stupid comments with FACTS. Otherwise we can only assume they are like your knowledge of religion, wholly created in the mind of an impotent conservative malcontent.
YOU claimed it was a "mental disorder", and despite being asked several times to post evidence supporting your claim, all you could come up with was someone's poorly written college term paper.
Try again, stumpedballs. :jj: |
You are going to have to do better than that.
The "college term paper" was not to provide proof. It was for two reasons. One was to show that genetics are playing a part. And, two...to show that a conversation can be held where one side is not just claiming bigotry and hatred. There are people who discuss this in a rational manner. The page I linked to... "the college term paper" also had further links in regard to the issue. That link did not claim homosexuality was a "mental illness". Only that genetics play a part.
I call it a mental illness because how else to describe it? It's a genetic fuck up. Call it anything you want. Just don't call it normal. Because your "normal" will lead to extinction.
Now prove this is normal.
Because if it is then everything is normal. We have people in this world who are serial killers. Is that normal too? |
|
|
| Fdubya247 |
Quote: Originally posted by StoneTroll
I call it a mental illness because how else to describe it? It's a genetic fuck up. Call it anything you want. Just don't call it normal. Because your "normal" will lead to extinction. |
...its the "variance" that is "normal", you lobotomized freak. Quit Trolling around and act like an adult.
:drool:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
|
|
| Jeton |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
You are going to have to do better than that.
The "college term paper" was not to provide proof. It was for two reasons. One was to show that genetics are playing a part. And, two...to show that a conversation can be held where one side is not just claiming bigotry and hatred. There are people who discuss this in a rational manner. The page I linked to... "the college term paper" also had further links in regard to the issue. That link did not claim homosexuality was a "mental illness". Only that genetics play a part.
I call it a mental illness because how else to describe it? It's a genetic fuck up. Call it anything you want. Just don't call it normal. Because your "normal" will lead to extinction.
Now prove this is normal.
Because if it is then everything is normal. We have people in this world who are serial killers. Is that normal too? |
then pick a definition of normal. herein u'll find definition #4 suits your circular argumentative style, and def. #2 and #3 suit mine.
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictiona...onary&va=NORMAL
homosexuality is akin to left-handedness or red-headedness in terms of 'normalcy', in that they are less common but normative variants. you can provide no evidence of mental illness being more common among homosexuals than heterosexuals, this in | | | | | |
