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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
My position is very clear. Homosexuality is a minor mental disorder. As far as mental disorders go. It can be cured probably. However, I don't think that cure has been found. Denial is not the answer for homosexuals, apparently. |
look at the gems I was missing by not clicking on this thread :jj: |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
When human behavior is justified by the acts of animals, as homosexuality has been in this thread, then you open yourself up to other things animals do. Eating their young and each other is another thing animals do.
Of course we don't want to hear anything but the talking point. We don't want to see passed our idiotic justifications and think about what we are saying. It's just normal because the behavior is seen in animals. That is it. Don't go the next step. Don't think. Doing so would only show the absurdity of justifying human behavior by the acts of Dogs.
I feel your pain.
There is another version of procreation of humans besides my "Black and White" version?
Please explain this other human procreation besides a male and a female.
Just because people are born homosexuals does not mean it is "normal". You keep coming back to all your points that have no meaning whatsoever.
This conversation is getting boring. |
fixate much? |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
You have run from everything. You have offered nothing to support your side. You will not even answer any questions, meanwhile I have offered my side of the debate, have not run, and have not engaged in personal attacks. Not that I don't understand your personal attacks, they are your only refuge in a debate where you cannot defend your position. |
What debate?
There has been no debate.
All I have seen is other posters trying to convince you that your idiotic theories about homosexuality are not in the least bit scientific or grounded in any real sense of the word. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
What debate?
There has been no debate.
All I have seen is other posters trying to convince you that your idiotic theories about homosexuality are not in the least bit scientific or grounded in any real sense of the word. |
There is the science of biology, right?
Perhaps you could answer what Ass Boil has failed to. How does biology allow same sex couples to have off-spring? If we were all born in this supposed "normal" condition we would cease to exist in a generation.
How is that normal? It seems to be the same "normal" as having been born with two heads... Well not exactly the same "normal", at least off spring could be achieved in that condition so I suppose having two heads is more normal than homosexuality. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
There is the science of biology, right?
Perhaps you could answer what Ass Boil has failed to. How does biology allow same sex couples to have off-spring? If we were all born in this supposed "normal" condition we would cease to exist in a generation.
If you were correct, there would be no gay dads.
There are.
You are wrong.
You also completely ignore bi-sexual people, who are capable of reproduction all day long.
How is that normal? It seems to be the same "normal" as having been born with two heads... Well not exactly the same "normal", at least off spring could be achieved in that condition so I suppose having two heads is more normal than homosexuality.
It is statements like this that make people attack you personally - mostly because it's so fucking stupid.
It's really beneath response.
Do you really think that Dick Cheney would prefer his daughter to have two fucking heads?
What kind of fucking drugs are you on?
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
There is the science of biology, right?
Perhaps you could answer what Ass Boil has failed to. How does biology allow same sex couples to have off-spring? If we were all born in this supposed "normal" condition we would cease to exist in a generation.
How is that normal? It seems to be the same "normal" as having been born with two heads... Well not exactly the same "normal", at least off spring could be achieved in that condition so I suppose having two heads is more normal than homosexuality. |
oh boy
somebody has an achilles heel :crazy: |
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| Stonewall |
SaintJimmy,
There are Gay Dads. What does that mean? It is meaningless.
If we understand this thing then we must assume people are born with a mentality the opposite of normal. Even if the abnormality is relatively harmless. It's not like the occasional "normal" serial killer being born.
A genetic screw-up.
While the homosexual might not be as outwardly abnormal as the two-headed human, I'd still in the grand scheme of things imagine that being born with two heads is probably a better condition if the goal is procreation of humans. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
SaintJimmy,
There are Gay Dads. What does that mean? It is meaningless.
If we understand this thing then we must assume people are born with a mentality the opposite of normal. Even if the abnormality is relatively harmless. It's not like the occasional "normal" serial killer being born.
A genetic screw-up.
While the homosexual might not be as outwardly abnormal as the two-headed human, I'd still in the grand scheme of things imagine that being born with two heads is probably a better condition if the goal is procreation of humans. |
AB was right - you're retarded.
Gay dads mean that homosexuals, despite what you've been claiming for this entire thread, CAN PROCREATE.
Your arguments are worthless. |
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| Ass Boil |
What "questions" do you need answered, Stumpedballs?
So far you have proven you are able to create your own definitions of "mental disorder" and "normal", that you have developed your own "all or nothing" theory of human procreation, communicated that you think people will be able to "fix" homosexuality genetically, and ignored every attempt to correct your prehistoric ideas at every turn.
And the crying about personal attacks just makes me laugh. You can't dress up like a clown and perform, then get mad when people find you entertaining.....
Nice try though. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
AB was right - you're retarded.
Gay dads mean that homosexuals, despite what you've been claiming for this entire thread, CAN PROCREATE.
Your arguments are worthless. |
Yes they can procreate. They just have to go against what is normal for them.
Lets say it is "normal". Then "normal" is having sex with those you do not want to. For your normal procreation to happen, that would have to be true. So, going with that "normal", then is it "normal" for heterosexuals to have sex with the same sex?
A non-homosexual having sex with the same sex, is normal?
That is what you want me to believe. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Yes they can procreate. They just have to go against what is normal for them.
Lets say it is "normal". Then "normal" is having sex with those you do not want to. For your normal procreation to happen, that would have to be true. So, going with that "normal", then is it "normal" for heterosexuals to have sex with the same sex?
A non-homosexual having sex with the same sex, is normal?
That is what you want me to believe. |
who wants you to believe anything?
just stay out of people's bedrooms :p |
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| Halcyon |
I've never seen two people backpeddle and cry about shit they know nothing about as much as cunning lingo and Stonewall.
I want this thread stickied because I don't think I've ever witnessed such an abortion of ideals than I have from these two nitwits. |
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| ArivacaCharlie |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Yes they can procreate. They just have to go against what is normal for them.
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So you've finally admitted gay sex is normal. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
I've never seen two people backpeddle and cry about shit they know nothing about as much as cunning lingo and Stonewall.
I want this thread stickied because I don't think I've ever witnessed such an abortion of ideals than I have from these two nitwits. |
The majority of the U.S. rejects what you argue in favor of, the normalization of homosexuality. In this debate your side has failed. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by ArivacaCharlie
:lol:
So you've finally admitted gay sex is normal. |
If "normal" includes having sex with people you do not want to.
It is as normal as two straight people having same-sex relations with each other. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Yes they can procreate. They just have to go against what is normal for them.
Lets say it is "normal". Then "normal" is having sex with those you do not want to. For your normal procreation to happen, that would have to be true. So, going with that "normal", then is it "normal" for heterosexuals to have sex with the same sex?
A non-homosexual having sex with the same sex, is normal?
That is what you want me to believe. |
You're also STILL COMPLETELY IGNORING bisexuals who are capable of enjoying procreating very much.
This does not surprise - in order to hold onto your beliefs, you pretty much have to ignore reality, don't you? |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
The majority of the U.S. rejects what you argue in favor of, the normalization of homosexuality. In this debate your side has failed. |
tell it to the supreme court :burst: |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
If "normal" includes having sex with people you do not want to.
It is as normal as two straight people having same-sex relations with each other. |
stifled passion? :jj: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
The majority of the U.S. rejects what you argue in favor of, the normalization of homosexuality. In this debate your side has failed. |
No, not really.
As someone pointed out months ago, the amount of people who truly believe in some form of organized religion is quickly dwindling.
This is merely just another example of the 'Christian' faith waging war on a peoples. And just because the majority of the country still believes in some form of 'Christian' denomination, doesn't make it right.
You still have to prove that homosexuality is a deviant behavior, you still have to prove that homosexuality is NOT normal. That was YOUR position, and YOU stated it first.
In this debate, YOUR side has failed.
AssBoil, GayTony, and some others in this thread have routinely handed you your ass and you've had nothing but one college report to debate them with.
YOU lost, stupid.
What kind of ignorant belief is it that being Gay is not a 'normal' thing? Absolutely horrendous! And yes, animals have exhibited gay behavior. This is not something that just started ocurring in animals, this is something that has gone on since the dawn of time.
The Romans had bath houses where they would perform gay acts on each other all the time.
What you're doing is essentially what Hitler was doing. Your demonizing a group of people because they are different. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
You're also STILL COMPLETELY IGNORING bisexuals who are capable of enjoying procreating very much.
This does not surprise - in order to hold onto your beliefs, you pretty much have to ignore reality, don't you? |
I don't ignore bi-sexuality. I just don't think it has meaning in this conversation. Maybe you can explain why it does. We cannot begin to bring in every sexual act that humans seemingly enjoy. The fact remains that same sex cannot reproduce. |
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| mingmen |
| stoney sez, "the constitution does not protect yer gayness" |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
The fact remains that same sex cannot reproduce. |
YIKES! :ce: |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
No, not really.
As someone pointed out months ago, the amount of people who truly believe in some form of organized religion is quickly dwindling.
This is merely just another example of the 'Christian' faith waging war on a peoples. And just because the majority of the country still believes in some form of 'Christian' denomination, doesn't make it right.
You still have to prove that homosexuality is a deviant behavior, you still have to prove that homosexuality is NOT normal. That was YOUR position, and YOU stated it first.
In this debate, YOUR side has failed.
AssBoil, GayTony, and some others in this thread have routinely handed you your ass and you've had nothing but one college report to debate them with.
YOU lost, stupid.
What kind of ignorant belief is it that being Gay is not a 'normal' thing? Absolutely horrendous! And yes, animals have exhibited gay behavior. This is not something that just started ocurring in animals, this is something that has gone on since the dawn of time.
The Romans had bath houses where they would perform gay acts on each other all the time.
What you're doing is essentially what Hitler was doing. Your demonizing a group of people because they are different. |
Bringing up all of this is useless. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with Leftist social engineering, and talking points. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Bringing up all of this is useless. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with Leftist social engineering, and talking points. |
And tolerance. Something your e-persona sorely lacks. |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I don't ignore bi-sexuality. I just don't think it has meaning in this conversation. Maybe you can explain why it does. We cannot begin to bring in every sexual act that humans seemingly enjoy. The fact remains that same sex cannot reproduce. |
TEST TUBES CAN REPRODUCE THESE DAYS, YOU FUCKWIT.
Do you live in a fucking cave, or something? |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
TEST TUBES CAN REPRODUCE THESE DAYS, YOU FUCKWIT.
Do you live in a fucking cave, or something? |
So, homosexuality is made normal. Because of medical advances we have made a new "normal". |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Holy shit some of you people are dumb as shit.
First off education is never a bad thing especially when it could help people understand the world, their bodies, and their feelings. Nobody is advocating teaching kids where to stick their dicks and tongues. Just because you introduce the facts about sexuality doesn't mean people automatically go out and try things and if they did it would be much better for people to have been taught responsibility and respect so that we can curb things like STD's and needles pregnancy. I'd rather have young adults thinking first and then fucking than the alternative that has a bunch of un-informed idiots running around trying stuff. Maybe if they knew something they would learn to protect themselves from STD's, learn to treat others (no matter what their orientation is) with respect, learn to protect themselves from predators, and grow up to be healthy adults who treat sex like the gift it is instead of treating it like some dirty thing or some boring thing only used for procreation.
Let the gay thing go. It's only 10% of the population and 85% of the Republican party. A little knowledge never hurt anybody. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
So, homosexuality is made normal. Because of medical advances we have made a new "normal". |
:7jump: :7jump: :7jump: :7jump: :7jump: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Bringing up all of this is useless. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with Leftist social engineering, and talking points. |
It has everything to do with why you come up with such wierd ideas. To understand where you are coming from, can pretty much tell me exactly where you stand on any issue.
Here's the problem. You're a 'jesus freak'. It has nothing to do with 'leftist social engineering'. It has everything to do with proving why your opinions aren't based on anything more than fairy tale nonsense.
You believe gays are not normal. That's pretty much lock-step with 'Christian' beliefs.
Score 1 point for me
You believe the Bush administration is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Again, Bush is a DIE-HARD Christian, who even believes that he TALKS TO GOD!. That's pretty much lock-step with 'Christian' beliefs.
Score 1 point for me
It's simple, see? Your credibility is shot when you become an OBVIOUS schill for one group/party/belief. |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I don't ignore bi-sexuality. I just don't think it has meaning in this conversation. Maybe you can explain why it does. We cannot begin to bring in every sexual act that humans seemingly enjoy. The fact remains that same sex cannot reproduce. |
It's painfully obviously you've never made anybody come and you think the missionary position is wild shit. |
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| Ass Boil |
Following Stumpy's "logic", if something doesn't procreate it isn't "normal".
Please regale us with more of your theories, Mr. Science!
LOL |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
So, homosexuality is made normal. Because of medical advances we have made a new "normal". |
50 years ago, cell phones weren't normal.
It's time for you to wake up and smell the evolution. |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Following Stumpy's "logic", if something doesn't procreate it isn't "normal".
Please regale us with more of your theories, Mr. Science!
LOL |
That's some scary shit. If there was a shortage of humans ( Idare anybody to argue that we need more people on this Earth) then I would say procreation is important, but it's not. Can you imagine living a life where you see sex as only for procreation and make procreation the most important aspect?
Dear god there is a large section of this country that just needs to fuck for fucking's sake. |
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| ICE CUBAN |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
evolution. |
Jesus Hater!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| mingmen |
quit telling him it is normal
he has enough voices in his head saying this
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
50 years ago, cell phones weren't normal.
It's time for you to wake up and smell the evolution. |
Long ago in this thread I brought up the new normal idea.
The problem with that kind of thinking is it is kind of like saying it is normal to be born with two heads because medical advances have made it so one head can be removed.
You cannot make normal homosexuality. Just like you cannot make normal being born with two heads. |
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| mingmen |
| again with the 2 heads :rolleyes: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Long ago in this thread I brought up the new normal idea.
The problem with that kind of thinking is it is kind of like saying it is normal to be born with two heads because medical advances have made it so one head can be removed.
You cannot make normal homosexuality. Just like you cannot make normal being born with two heads. |
So then, being born homosexual is not 'normal'?
What exactly happens to someone in the womb to make them 'become' gay? |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by mingmen
again with the 2 heads :rolleyes: |
plus muslims have horns :jj: |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
So then, being born homosexual is not 'normal'?
What exactly happens to someone in the womb to make them 'become' gay? |
Genetics |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Genetics |
expound
treat us to some cut and paste :D |
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| SaintJimmy |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Long ago in this thread I brought up the new normal idea.
The problem with that kind of thinking is it is kind of like saying it is normal to be born with two heads because medical advances have made it so one head can be removed.
You cannot make normal homosexuality. Just like you cannot make normal being born with two heads. |
You idea of normal is just exactly that - yours.
The fact that it's stupid and nearly obsolete is your personal problem.
As time goes by, you will find it harder and harder to deal with the world that is evolving all around, and apparently without, you.
I have friends who are gay, and for you to equate them with birth defects is not only terribly ignorant, it's also pretty insulting.
It is your prerogative to hold these beliefs, but you should know that society will marginalize you for it more and more over time.
As it should. |
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| JTProcess |
the right has this mentality that if you just ignore something or pretend it's not there it will go away....
they do it with budget deficits, iraq war casualties, scientific research, gayness, etc. etc. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Genetics |
Genetics are not normal?
I think genetics are just about the most 'normal' thing that could ever happen to someone. I mean, it's not like they were exposed to radiation. THAT would be abnormal. No?
So, let's get the stumpy logic straight.
Genetics are not 'normal', therefore homosexuality is not 'normal'.
Am I following this correctly? |
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| Ass Boil |
| Stompedballs doesn't listen to the gay voices in his head..... they need to be "fixed" :p |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by SaintJimmy
You idea of normal is just exactly that - yours.
The fact that it's stupid and nearly obsolete is your personal problem.
As time goes by, you will find it harder and harder to deal with the world that is evolving all around, and apparently without, you.
I have friends who are gay, and for you to equate them with birth defects is not only terribly ignorant, it's also pretty insulting.
It is your prerogative to hold these beliefs, but you should know that society will marginalize you for it more and more over time.
As it should. |
Now we return to the "feelings" part of the debate.
This is where the Left tells everyone they are hateful and hurtful to others.
I guess we will be informed when the Left wants to normalize something else. Maybe bestiality will be he next "normal" thing. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Now we return to the "feelings" part of the debate.
This is where the Left tells everyone they are hateful and hurtful to others.
I guess we will be informed when the Left wants to normalize something else. Maybe bestiality will be he next "normal" thing. |
Generalizations.
I love that you think Saint Jimmy is somehow 'left'.
What is a 'left' ?
Please give us your defenition of 'left'.
Does it fall within the same defenition as 'normal'?
You never answered wether or not you think genetics is normal.
I guess the unbelievable paradox that would ensue in your head if you were to admit that would be mind-blowing. That's the only reason I can see for you dodging my post. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Generalizations.
I love that you think Saint Jimmy is somehow 'left'.
What is a 'left' ?
Please give us your defenition of 'left'.
Does it fall within the same defenition as 'normal'?
You never answered wether or not you think genetics is normal.
I guess the unbelievable paradox that would ensue in your head if you were to admit that would be mind-blowing. That's the only reason I can see for you dodging my post. |
Where did you get the idea that I said genetics are not normal? Point this out so I can see the way your damaged brain works. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Genetics are not normal?
I think genetics are just about the most 'normal' thing that could ever happen to someone. I mean, it's not like they were exposed to radiation. THAT would be abnormal. No?
So, let's get the stumpy logic straight.
Genetics are not 'normal', therefore homosexuality is not 'normal'.
Am I following this correctly? |
Ahhh, I see the way your brain works now.
You take a one word answer and turn it into whatever you choose.
I was asked what happens in the womb to make someone gay and I answered "Genetics"
You then created this genetics are not normal thing.
I feel your pain, another example of seeing what you want to see and believing what you want to believe.
Let me clarify what I meant just in case you are as dumb as you pretend to be....
A genetic mistake. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Where did you get the idea that I said genetics are not normal? Point this out so I can see the way your damaged brain works. |
It's not damaged. And if the logic is damaged, it's because YOU provided the logic... ready? Here we go.
According to Stonewall:
Homosexuality is not normal
Genetics make a person homosexual
So....
We take out the like terms, and end up with Genetics is not normal.
If homosexuality is not normal, and genetics make you homosexual, than genetics are not normal. According to YOUR logic.
I'm not going to explain this to you again, now you can refute what I have just proven using YOUR posts, or you can try to explain now why your own logic is faulty.
We're all waiting. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Ahhh, I see the way your brain works now.
You take a one word answer and turn it into whatever you choose.
I was asked what happens in the womb to make someone gay and I answered "Genetics"
You then created this genetics are not normal thing.
I feel your pain, another example of seeing what you want to see and believing what you want to believe.
Let me clarify what I meant just in case you are as dumb as you pretend to be....
A genetic mistake. |
Prove it's a 'mistake'.
Who are you to say that homosexuality is a mistake?
I'll tell you why you believe that when you blatantly lie to everyone on this board again. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
It's not damaged. And if the logic is damaged, it's because YOU provided the logic... ready? Here we go.
According to Stonewall:
Homosexuality is not normal
Genetics make a person homosexual
So....
We take out the like terms, and end up with Genetics is not normal.
If homosexuality is not normal, and genetics make you homosexual, than genetics are not normal. According to YOUR logic.
I'm not going to explain this to you again, now you can refute what I have just proven using YOUR posts, or you can try to explain now why your own logic is faulty.
We're all waiting. |
See my last post... |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
See my last post... |
I did, you added a qualifier and then told me I was wrong.
I was right to assume you would try to 'spin' out of that faulty logic of yours. I proved you wrong, you added another qualifier to it and now maintain it's still correct.
You were wrong, I was right.
Oh, see my post answering yours :rolleyes: |
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| artie84 |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Where did you get the idea that I said genetics are not normal? Point this out so I can see the way your damaged brain works. |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
In the grand scheme of things homosexuality is a minor thing. It's not something that needs to be dealt with, like schizophrenia does, but as we move along in our medical advances I'm sure the gene that creates schizophrenia will be dealt with and while they are there something tells me the minor mental illness of homosexuality will also be dealt with. It is an abnormality. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Prove it's a 'mistake'.
Who are you to say that homosexuality is a mistake?
I'll tell you why you believe that when you blatantly lie to everyone on this board again. |
I have been over this many times.
Lets skip that and get to your summation. Get right to telling everyone why I believe what I believe.
:) |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Now we return to the "feelings" part of the debate.
This is where the Left tells everyone they are hateful and hurtful to others.
I guess we will be informed when the Left wants to normalize something else. Maybe bestiality will be he next "normal" thing. |
repress much? |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I have been over this many times.
Lets skip that and get to your summation. Get right to telling everyone why I believe what I believe.
:) |
No, answer the fucking question you dodging piece of shit.
Why is homosexuality a mistake? |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Ahhh, I see the way your brain works now.
You take a one word answer and turn it into whatever you choose.
I was asked what happens in the womb to make someone gay and I answered "Genetics"
You then created this genetics are not normal thing.
I feel your pain, another example of seeing what you want to see and believing what you want to believe.
Let me clarify what I meant just in case you are as dumb as you pretend to be....
A genetic mistake. |
links please |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
No, answer the fucking question you dodging piece of shit.
Why is homosexuality a mistake? |
Because if everyone was born with this mankind would never have gotten off the ground. It is only procreation that allows for existence. Surely even the greatest idiots ever produced could see that.
It is as plain as day as noticing that having two heads is a mistake. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Because if everyone was born with this mankind would never have gotten off the ground. |
who said everyone was born with it? :doink: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Because if everyone was born with this mankind would never have gotten off the ground. It is only procreation that allows for existence. Surely even the greatest idiots ever produced could see that.
It is as plain as day as noticing that having two heads is a mistake. |
So your proof that 'homosexuality' is a mistake is that people with two heads exist as well?
Well, I don't know. I'm going to have to mull over this new intelligent information.
Seriously. I mean you present a REAL strong argument here.
:rofl:
Anyway, the fact that homosexuality occurs in nature, and in specific every species of animal has exhibited such behavior, clearly means that it IS normal.
We haven't 'needed' to procreate since the Caveman era. Mankind has never been on the verge of extinction.
You're taking a very simplistic notion and applying it to a very complex world. Don't you understand that 'procreation' is not a necessity to us anymore? There are plenty of people in the world today that can continue on the species of 'Man' that homosexuality will not threaten our existence.
It's not 'abnormal' to be homosexual, it's not a mental disorder, it's not always a choice. People and animals can be born homosexual.
I'm sorry you think it's not normal.
But the REAL reason you feel it's not normal, is because the Christian 'values' will tell you as such. You have an inherent desire to discredit and demonize gays the same as you do Muslims.
You might want to take a REAL hard look at your life Stonewall. Seriously, you may just want to try and understand why this intolerance is allowed to actually interfere with your decision making process. |
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| Ass Boil |
Why does "all of mankind" need to be homosexual for it to qualify as "normal", you confederate douche?
Is "all of mankind" ANYTHING?
No.
Back to the retarded drawing board with you. |
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| mingmen |
| I have to say that you have really embarrassed yourself this time, stumpy. You are a fool :p |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by mingmen
who said everyone was born with it? :doink: |
Not me.
Is it normal that within so many births you will have so many homosexuals? Apparently it is a normal occurrence. Just like for a certain number of births you will see other odd things. The occasional normal oddity does not create an acceptance to it. We do not accept the normal serial killer. The normal two headed human. We do accept homosexuality but not enough to stop a future time where the genetic mistake will be fixed. Eventually we will have mapped out the entire genetic code and then fix whatever cancer may arise or birth defect or mental illness. Parents will know beforehand all these things and will fix them. Science will make this debate an historical one. |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Not me.
Is it normal that within so many births you will have so many homosexuals? Apparently it is a normal occurrence. Just like for a certain number of births you will see other odd things. The occasional normal oddity does not create an acceptance to it. We do not accept the normal serial killer. The normal two headed human. We do accept homosexuality but not enough to stop a future time where the genetic mistake will be fixed. Eventually we will have mapped out the entire genetic code and then fix whatever cancer may arise or birth defect or mental illness. Parents will know beforehand all these things and will fix them. Science will make this debate an historical one. |
now it is serial killers AND 2 headed humans :jj: |
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| mingmen |
| total fucking retard :badteeth: |
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| Ass Boil |
| I wonder if Stumpy's parents had been warned he would turn out to have this mental illness (conservative douche-itis), would they have "fixed" it? |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
But the REAL reason you feel it's not normal, is because the Christian 'values' will tell you as such. You have an inherent desire to discredit and demonize gays the same as you do Muslims.
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I have very little Christian expirence , and I find Homosexuality odd. I guess I'm a fucking asshole that then eh? No room for opinions here! Not on a Howard Stern Web Forum.... lol....
If you think it's cool to suck your friends cock and have him shove it in your ass ..cool man... go for it..... I don't have to agree to it like you do. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
I wonder if Stumpy's parents had been warned he would turn out to have this mental illness (conservative douche-itis), would they have "fixed" it? |
I want to add this comment to my last post:
And, someday Ahmadinejad will be able to safely say..."We don't have homosexuals in Iran, who told you we did?"
HAHAHAHAHAHHAA...
You guys are fun around here...
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
I have very little Christian expirence , and I find Homosexuality odd. I guess I'm a fucking asshole that then eh? No room for opinions here! Not on a Howard Stern Web Forum.... lol....
If you think it's cool to suck your friends cock and have him shove it in your ass ..cool man... go for it..... I don't have to agree to it like you do. |
Gotta love the angry militants who feel that straight men shouldn't defend the rights of gay men.
You must also be the same kind of individual who would have thrown a brick through my window in the 50's because I'm a white man who would also defend the rights of blacks.
You're a bigot in every sense of the word. It's not about having a different opinion, it's that your opinion is born from an intolerance and a hatred that is deep-seeded in all militant "Christians".
The ones who are so ashamed of their own homosexuality, that they crusade to make sure people who are not ashamed of their homosexuality don't get some sort of 'special treatment'.
You're just a fearful angry Christian. |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
I want to add this comment to my last post:
And, someday Ahmadinejad will be able to safely say..."We don't have homosexuals in Iran, who told you we did?"
HAHAHAHAHAHHAA...
You guys are fun around here...
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It must be so much fun to have everyone shove in your face what an intolerant and hateful person you are. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Gotta love the angry militants who feel that straight men shouldn't defend the rights of gay men.
You must also be the same kind of individual who would have thrown a brick through my window in the 50's because I'm a white man who would also defend the rights of blacks.merely said I disagree with it...
You're a bigot in every sense of the word. It's not about having a different opinion, it's that your opinion is born from an intolerance and a hatred that is deep-seeded in all militant "Christians".
The ones who are so ashamed of their own homosexuality, that they crusade to make sure people who are not ashamed of their homosexuality don't get some sort of 'special treatment'.
You're just a fearful angry Christian. |
I don't speak fat , gay guy ...so I'll try again
Not a Christian
Never said I hate 'em
Never said a word about blacks -that's your bag
Merely said I disagree with it.... Try again tubby |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
It must be so much fun to have everyone shove in your face what an intolerant and hateful person you are. |
You calling anyone intolerant and hateful is the funniest fucking thing I've heard on this forum yet... You should really get help tubby...Lotta issues there ... Still having problems with the "relationship"... |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
You calling anyone intolerant and hateful is the funniest fucking thing I've heard on this forum yet... You should really get help tubby...Lotta issues there ... Still having problems with the "relationship"... |
No, I won't go out with you. I know you're just trying to project your fantasies of a gay relationship with me, but I have a girlfriend, sorry. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
No, I won't go out with you. I know you're just trying to project your fantasies of a gay relationship with me, but I have a girlfriend, sorry. |
So that's what you call him? girlfriend? From what I could tell - he was really excited about your little pic-nic in the park( Golden Gate)....that's really sweet ... you silly kids.It's probably just a phase. |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
It must be so much fun to have everyone shove in your face what an intolerant and hateful person you are. |
That is just so unfair...
I like two headed people. And, I enjoy the zoo from time to time.
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
So that's what you call him? girlfriend? From what I could tell - he was really excited about your little pic-nic in the park( Golden Gate)....that's really sweet ... you silly kids.It's probably just a phase. |
ROFL, that's a co-worker of mine you fucking moron. HAHAH Did you call him? I noticed you took special interest in knowing he left his phone number and you even remembered about the picnic he was having with some of his friends.
He's not gay either, but I know that wouldn't stop an obsessed stalker like yourself, you should give him a call and see if he'll go out with you :giggle: |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
That is just so unfair...
I like two headed people. And, I enjoy the zoo from time to time.
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Hate and intolerance surrounds your entire life. What a sad, pathetic existence you live in.
I can't imagine having to look in the mirror every day of my life and realize that I just demonize people for the sake of 'christian values'.
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Hate and intolerance surrounds your entire life. What a sad, pathetic existence you live in.
I can't imagine having to look in the mirror every day of my life and realize that I just demonize people for the sake of 'christian values'.
:no: |
Keep Guessin Andycakes! You might accidentally stumble on to something that may be really the truth about me! Until then, go ahead and keep projecting , and denying , your real personal feelings. I hope your manlover doesn't read this forum. You may hurt his feelings.... |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Keep Guessin Andycakes! You might accidentally stumble on to something that may be really the truth about me! Until then, go ahead and keep projecting , and denying , your real personal feelings. I hope your manlover doesn't read this forum. You may hurt his feelings.... |
Do you think using my first name will somehow incite anger in me?
Did you forget I posted it for everyone to see?
What's your first name, mr. e-tough guy?
Please tell me your actually Sid. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Do you think using my first name will somehow incite anger in me?
Did you forget I posted it for everyone to see?
What's your first name, mr. e-tough guy?
Please tell me your actually Sid. |
Andy , I told you ...for the last time.. I'm married. Stop it... Now it's just getting creepy... |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Andy , I told you ...for the last time.. I'm married. Stop it... Now it's just getting creepy... |
That's what I thought.
Another punk-bitch who needs to hide behind his anonymity.
No wonder you're laughed at across this forum.
*shrug* |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
That's what I thought.
Another punk-bitch who needs to hide behind his anonymity.
No wonder you're laughed at across this forum.
*shrug* |
Awww... Hang in there big fella , Mr. Right could be just around the corner.... |
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| Ass Boil |
Is Homosexuality a Mental Illness or Emotional Problem?
No. Homosexuality was once thought to be a mental illness because mental health professionals and society had biased information. Psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals agree that homosexuality is not an illness, a mental disorder, or an emotional problem. More than 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and itself, is not associated with mental disorders or emotional or social problems.
In the past, the studies of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people involved only those in therapy, thus biasing the resulting conclusions. When researchers examined data about such people who were not in therapy, the idea that homosexuality was a mental illness was quickly found to be untrue.
In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association confirmed the importance of the new, better-designed research and removed homosexuality from the official manual that lists mental and emotional disorders. Two years later, the American Psychological Association passed a resolution supporting this removal.
For more than 25 years, both associations have urged all mental health professionals to help dispel the stigma of mental illness that some people still associate with homosexual orientation.
http://www.apahelpcenter.org/articles/article.php?id=31 |
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| Stonewall |
Quote: Originally posted by Ass Boil
Is Homosexuality a Mental Illness or Emotional Problem?
No. Homosexuality was once thought to be a mental illness because mental health professionals and society had biased information. Psychologists, psychiatrists, and other mental health professionals agree that homosexuality is not an illness, a mental disorder, or an emotional problem. More than 35 years of objective, well-designed scientific research has shown that homosexuality, in and itself, is not associated with mental disorders or emotional or social problems.
In the past, the studies of gay, lesbian, and bisexual people involved only those in therapy, thus biasing the resulting conclusions. When researchers examined data about such people who were not in therapy, the idea that homosexuality was a mental illness was quickly found to be untrue.
In 1973 the American Psychiatric Association confirmed the importance of the new, better-designed research and removed homosexuality from the official manual that lists mental and emotional disorders. Two years later, the American Psychological Association passed a resolution supporting this removal.
For more than 25 years, both associations have urged all mental health professionals to help dispel the stigma of mental illness that some people still associate with homosexual orientation.
http://www.apahelpcenter.org/articles/article.php?id=31 |
Does it say anything on that site about bestiality? |
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| Halcyon |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Does it say anything on that site about bestiality? |
Are you looking into a new fetish of yours? |
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| Halcyon |
Let's also not forget that bestiality is absolutely illegal. Another sorry ass excuse of a correlation drawn by Stonewall. I guess comparing things that are nothing similar is the only way he can try and justify his intolerance and hatred for gays.
How close are you to actually going out and bashing a gay person Stoney? |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Does it say anything on that site about bestiality? |
They're probably still trying to find a way to write it up as an acceptable practice. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Let's also not forget that bestiality is absolutely illegal. Another sorry ass excuse of a correlation drawn by Stonewall. I guess comparing things that are nothing similar is the only way he can try and justify his intolerance and hatred for gays.
How close are you to actually going out and bashing a gay person Stoney? |
Yes , beastiality is( for now), as was homosexuality - and anal sex in most states. Fuck, Iran's president even said it was just a western phenomenon.... |
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Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
Yes , beastiality is( for now), as was homosexuality - and anal sex in most states. Fuck, Iran's president even said it was just a western phenomenon.... |
Wow! So, your interpretation of 'normal' has to do with the tolerance of a society and the legality of it?
Beastiality will never be legal, I don't know why you think it will be. I mean, I can see why you HOPE it would be. Then you wouldn't have to hide the fact you fuck all those sheep on your inbred ranch.
But you know, at one time it was illegal for blacks to share a water fountain, or for them to be considered 'free'?
At what point do we use common sense in place of archaic logic?
According to cunning lingo folks, black people should still be slaves, because at one time it was illegal to be free and black. Least, that's what he was saying.
Maybe you'd like to qualify that a little more? |
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Quote: Originally posted by StoneTroll
Does it say anything on that site about bestiality? |
...taking a closer look at the American "South"/GOP voters is a future study...
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Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Let's also not forget that bestiality is absolutely illegal. Another sorry ass excuse of a correlation drawn by Stonewall. I guess comparing things that are nothing similar is the only way he can try and justify his intolerance and hatred for gays.
How close are you to actually going out and bashing a gay person Stoney? |
At one time homosexual sodomy was illegal. Now of course it is a "right", Justice Kennedy changed his mind in regard to the issue.
That is how the Constitution changes... with a simple change of mind. Communities can no longer legislate on that issue. Like Abortion it is a "right", one bestowed upon the subjects of the kingdom.
For 200+ years it was a well known fact that communities and States can decide these issues. Not anymore.
But we like it because it probably is a good idea to allow these two things. We can only hope that the Court does not change other things. Like Freedom of Speech and what that means, or well just pick out any right that we enjoy. And, remember that it can be taken away under the same principle that rights are bestowed. We cannot expect a one way road to paradise on earth. |
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| cunning lingo |
Quote: Originally posted by Halcyon
Wow! So, your interpretation of 'normal' has to do with the tolerance of a society and the legality of it?
Beastiality will never be legal, I don't know why you think it will be. I mean, I can see why you HOPE it would be. Then you wouldn't have to hide the fact you fuck all those sheep on your inbred ranch.
But you know, at one time it was illegal for blacks to share a water fountain, or for them to be considered 'free'?
At what point do we use common sense in place of archaic logic?
According to cunning lingo folks, black people should still be slaves, because at one time it was illegal to be free and black. Least, that's what he was saying.
Maybe you'd like to qualify that a little more? |
I'm finally getting it- Your boyfriend's black! Holy shit! My bad. Fuck, it was right in front on my face this whole time. That's why you insistantly keep dragging blacks into this thread.
How can you be certain beastiality will always be outlawed.?
As you said, there were laws against blacks( and women for that matter) - no longer
There were laws against homosexuality ( In some/most places) - no longer
AndyCakes - your starting to melt bub...take 5 , have a cold one and watch a little Ellen.... You'll be Ok till the hubby comes home... |
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Quote: Originally posted by Stonewall
Does it say anything on that site about bestiality? |
Why? Do you have something you want to confess, Stumpy? |
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| mingmen |
Quote: Originally posted by cunning lingo
How can you be certain beastiality will always be outlawed.? |
I am sensing some panic about your legal status :jj: |
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